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Skyfire.com shows the HTC Kaiser as a device browsing with the new skyfire browser...allowing imbedded flash and video! (on the product page)
I find it hard to believe that the kaiser could graphically handle this. Anyone else? I really hope so though, looks like the best browser hands down!!!
It's probably a thin client browser, hence the 100% compatabilty, and full site rendering as opposed to a "mobile" version.
Stolen from Engadet Readers' Comments on SkyFire.....
"I believe (and this is pure guess-work) that this program is working like the PSP-PS3 browser, ie. that the browser is actually running remotely and that the Phone is more a VNC interface, otherwise I can't figure out how it could do so much, also that would explain the long privacy disclaimer. I (unfortunately) can't believe that such a browser could be built ground-up natively on the WM platform, when even Safari, Opera, Minimo haven't been able to include such functionality. Again, this is how you get Flash support on the PSP's optimized browser, so it makes sense imho."
The disclaimer, if you hadn't read it explains that every site is logged, which would make sense - as it's their server actually browsing the web -Great idea, looking forward to a UK beta.
This is what I've heard - everything is rendered and compressed by their servers, and the "browser" just displays content they've produced, complete with their own inserted advertising. Naturally they'll sell off your browsing history too.
It's not quite the solution I'm hoping for. There's no good reason why PIE can't be improved by MS, or a proper Safari based browser can't be developed for Windows Mobile.
Hmm...sort of perfecting the Opera Mini idea.
cool, because I really enjoy opera mini. I can't see how streaming youtube will be usable though with this idea...
I dont know how its usable either but it works, :: shrug:: I dont bog myself down with the technical details,
It was posted in the hacking and development forum here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277812
I think it wont hurt to introduce it here.
Its a piece of art, fluid and fast . Packed with nice features, it makes browsing , web, files , reading documents a pleasure. Top of all, its very finger friendly. check out the video here ( this video is not on a Kaiser , but you get the idea )
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0PXEXGPnMg
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Picsel Browser v1.2 Build 999
View your documents - Word, Excel, PPT, PDF and Images, through a ground breaking user interface which delivers amazing clarity and exceptional user friendliness. Now, you can use Full screen mode. The web comes to the mobile space. In its full, interactive excitement.
With Picsel Browser, your can not only view their own documents, you can also check out their favourite websites. Anytime, any place. Using Picsel’s patented content platform, users can pan and zoom each web page, enjoying all the original content, in its original online format, for the first time in the mobile space. And with download time significantly faster than dial-up, users stay engaged - and, therefore, connected - for longer. Picsel’s Browser works across the world’s most popular mobile devices, simply and quickly.
I have Picsel Browser version 1.0.0 build 2319 running on my Tilt. I like it a lot.
I tried this a year ago and found it intriguing at the time but other browsers have since past it in usability.
it looks great . Very easy to pan, zoom and navigate around with touch screen. I am also using operamini.
operamini for the speed and pscel for the sex appeal
anybody got a cab??
koolhand79 said:
anybody got a cab??
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Check the 1st post for the link to the original thread . There are some peep who will toss you a cab if you message or email em.
I am using the browser right now and its actually pretty good i like the way it renders and the pan and zoom is pretty easy to use.
works perfect on htc kaiser
thx
Got this e-mail from Skyfire, tested it and yes...it's true sometimes even better than the benchmarks but never worse...
In a recent review by Laptop Magazine, Skyfire was put to the test against Opera 9.5.1 and the new 3G iPhone. Skyfire raced ahead of its competitors with download speeds that far surpass our competitors. (Source: Laptop Mag)
NYT.com
Skyfire Beta: 6 (sec)
Opera 9.5.1 Beta: 60 (sec)
Safari: 29 (sec)
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Things have varied for me when I tried skyfire against PIE. Both seemed to load about the same, yes skyfire was easier to move around in but skyfire failed serveral time to be useful.
I wasn't able to open links or download files that PIE would with no problem.
I don't mean youtube stuff, I'm talking about opening email from aim.com (just like hotmail.com) and downloading any file at all.
skyfire for me = fail
My browser needs to do it all, if it's slow thats ok but it can't lead me somewhere and then not complete what I need. If I surf for something for 20 minutes and then I can't open a link I get pretty pissed off. PIE can do it.
Also I couldn't copy the URL I was at. I don't think
the initial page may come up faster, but skyfire only initially loads up an overview of the page. it still needs to load the individual parts as you zoom in on them. so those results are very misleading....
for me it's annoying...i'd rather wait a bit more on initial page load (opera 9.5/safari) than waiting every time you scroll around inside the page (skyfire).
for me the fastest is opera mini.
I'm a skyfire fan, but I imagine things would speed up if everything wasn't passed through their servers first....I guess it has to be though
yeah i does load quickly and have embedded flash, but zooming is more combersome compared to opera mini, and when you look around when zoomed in the page has to load even more.
opera: fast but no flash
PIE: slower but plays mobile youtube
skyfire: embedded flash but cumbersome zoom.
take your pick. however skyfire is currently in beta testing, the zoom loading could be a problem they're working on for final product
Anyway to turn off the zoomed-out mode on ALL pages?
It makes mobile-friendly pages unusable, and SkyFire unusable. I don't have a 800x600 screen so I really wish it wouldn't assume all HTML-compliant (meaning content will auto-flow) pages such as Google Reader Mobile loaded as such.
MineralGray02K said:
I imagine things would speed up if everything wasn't passed through their servers first....
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It's actually the opposite. Their servers have fast access, will recompress the page data and pre-render them, just like with opera mini. That's what speeds up the whole process so much. a 1MB page will be recompressed by the servers to a few dozen kBs, speeding up not only the download but also saving a lot of time the small processor of the PPC would need to render that amount of data.
That's why it's faster than the others, which have to deal with it all. It just can't be compared. And to me a browser that requires the availability of a 3rd party server isn't really a browser.
If only it had text wrap like opera mobile/mini.
kilrah i have to disagree.
opera mini may take slightly longer to load a full page but it renders the whole page, which means zooming, any where fast. in the long run its faster than skyfire beta browsing wise (for now)
All i can tell you is i can do the streaming tv on skyfire and that makes me happy.
I hope they add the "touch flo" like feature to Skyfire. It really is cumbersome to scroll around the page without it. Perhaps, though, it is not possible because skyfire doesn't preload the pages.
Just my thinking.
Having tried opera mini 4.1, opera 9.5 beta, and skyfire beta 1...first of all, O mini is like the kindergarten browser version of opera 9.5 so it's almost not even worth mentioning unless you're looking for the simplest of pics n text browsing. Opera 9.5 is the most fluid, responsive, intuitive, and easy to navigate browser. Then you boot up skyfire; supports every online video and audio codecs, from youtube, redtube, comedy central, fm radio streaming; any websight imaginable; even apple web trailers stream flawlessly. As much as I dig Opera's interface, getting the "this device does not support flash 8", is simply not an obstacle for skyfire, and does something not even the "delivering the real internet" Iphone can do. Hopefully, opera will soon follow suit
I tried Skyfire on my Kaiser, BlackJack II, and Dash. I already stopped using it on all three. I browse mainly mobile friendly sites with my phones so I didn't gain much. But I missed the tabbed browsing which I would have expected from the "greatest browser ever" comments I kept seeing.
I'm a huge fan of Opera Mini and keeping an eye on Torch Mobile's IrisBrowser. If they can make Iris work as smooth as the iPhone's browser, it will be a winner. OperaMobile still seems buggy...
Until then, I'm back to PocketIE and Opera Mini.
-Mc
looks like PocketIE PWNZ!!!
Opera 9.5 + Flash 3.1 = FTW
Hey folks,
i got 2 questions for my tytn2.
1. Which is the best internetbrowser at the moment to use? Most stable and fastest? And why?
2. is it possible to hack/tweak the resolution of for example mediaplayer? If i run youtube movies or whatsoever the resolution is just crap, also in fullscreen mode. What is the best tweak to get much better resolution?
Thanks in advance!
(using hypdragon 3 rom=wm6.1)
Answers
1. Skyfire It's stable and it's fast because they cache pages on thier server so you don't have to download all that crap.
2. Not that I know of so just use Skyfire. It plays videos right on the webpages so there is no need for a sperate app like the youtube player.
PS I do not work for Skyfire, it's just the best browser that I've used.
As far as mobile web browsers go, I find that Opera mobille 9.5 is the best for speed and options. But if your going to be visiting sites that have embedded video and such, then Skyfire is hands down the best. Skyfire is definitely the browser to use if you want a desktop experience. But I find myself using Opera more often since you can open multiple tabs, use bookmarks, and you can download files/long press on pictures and then save them. I also think Opera loads pages a tad bit faster and I like how when you flick and scroll it will continue to scroll and come to a gradual stop (like when you flick through icontact).
Now about the whole image quality of movies I have read several threads suggesting ways on how to improve movie quality, but when you boil it down, nothing will make a huge difference cuz our screen resolution is only 240x320 at only 65,000 colors. So no matter what software you install, its not gonna give you more pixels. If you want to watch high quality movies on your phone then iPhone would be your best bet at 320x480 with 16 million colors.
Ok, thanks for answers.
seems i might install latest skyfire browser..
is there any thread about skyfire and latest versions?
are people using other browsers with excellent performance?
i guess internet explorer is just standard crap then..
about my second question, the movie quality in for example youtube, im pretty disappointed about my device then (compared to iphone, ofcorz kaiser can do a lot more then iphone, but just this aspect then).
i get that u cant get the resolution better, its just a ''phone-handicap', but im surprised there are no tweaks/drivers for it as well..
maybe other ppl still have solutions?
I like Skyfire ( I have Beta version 0.85.0.7927), but I HATE the small view EACH page. Once I set it to the size, I prefer it to STAY there! Too much having to manipulate each page so that I can READ the thing!
Next, I notice that Skyfire is able to bring up images that IE and Opera cannot. I log into an online study website for my securities license. With IE and Opera, I cannot view the study material, but with Skyfire I CAN. BUT... It's too small! And I have to resize it for EVERY study question.
Does anyone know what it is in Skyfire that allows me to view things that IE and Opera don't? And... is there ANOTHER browser that can do that? (In Opera, I have the JAVA SCRIPT enabled) but it's not indicative of my not being able to view the study site.
Thanks for the help everyone...
I use multiple browsers depending on what I need.
I use Opera Mini most of the time because it is blazing fast. In my experience, it smokes skyfire and Opera Mobile in pure speed, and it does a decent job rendering the page. However, it is pretty bare bones - no tabs, no java, etc. But it gets the job done if you just want to read the news or look at a website.
The rest of the time I go back and forth between skyfire and opera mobile. Skyfire is pretty quick, and it is a full on browser. You can even watch videos on hulu - they are pretty rough, but they are viewable. I think Opera has a better user experience, but it is not as fast.
What's the browser like? Does it load pages quick enough and does it reformat the text when you zoom in to a forum post.
I've had the DesireHD for two days but miss the integration with a desktop media manager, e.g. iPhone and iTunes.
The browser is very quick though, almost a quick as a desktop browser.
Personally I've found the browser to be pretty quick and nippy but it doesn't re-format the text upon zooming. Having said this, it tends to make the text of the main body of each page bigger so it's easier to read with less zooming.
And as for the other aspect of integration - it's definitely well integrated with the OS. I'm generally pleased with it anyway, just waiting for Flash and Silverlight now...
Is it possible to use MOBILE VIEW in the browser, so pages are shown as in OPERA or any other browser?
Any rumours about other browsers for WP7