Alright, so I've been lurking on this forum for quite some time now. I've flashed, reflashed roms. I thought I had a handle on everything but I guess I was wrong. I've been away from a Window's computer for quite some time now. And I recently saw the new 3.3 rom from the gods of xda. Well, I downgraded, to button's 1.01. and then here's where i screwed up. i forgot to go back up to a 2.xx rom. and went straight for the gold and went for the 3.3. yes i know i screwed up. well here's where I'm at now. still stuck with Button's 1.01 ipl/spl but i have the 3.3 OS. And now I'm not getting any active sync connection, my computer isn't recognizing my wizard. also. my 8125 is slow, i mean i tap the screen and i get nothing re-tap nothing eventually nothin happens, and it's stuck on the today screen. I should also mention it's G3, and yes, i unlocked it all the way. so now I'm basically stuck on the today screen with nothing to do. I foolishly finally tried to clear the storage and start from scratch, but now I'm stuck with no extended rom i believe, all the settings are wiped. am i screwed or what? Or does anyone know a way to at least get active sync back up and running, shouldi re-install it? alright so correction, I'm seeing that all the settings from the extended are showing up (i.e. the battery settings on the today screen, the one-touch voicemail/ 411 connect.) so any suggestions.??
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also when booting up, it takes for ever. litteraly 2-4 minutes. And i tried soft rest via stylus, and then it went to button's boot screen shows ipl spl 1.01 and no radio rom but os was 3.3 and then it would reset showing the same damn beer mug, and then it would do it again. then the screen almost faded away and then it showed the same damn screen again. finally it will go to the crossbow splash screen. and no the battery meter at the bottom is showin -1%
you wizard is not dead yet
I did this...hurry...hurry, hurry but there's somethin' that you can do. Try flashing again button's rom by entering your ppc into bootloader, and then attach it to the pc. It will be recognized, and then you can start flashing.
Good luck. And from mistakes we all learn
hmmm
Well I took your advice, put the 8125 into bootloader. And then connected to the laptop. Still no active sync connection, however the 8125 does recognize it I suppose, when I plug into the laptop the USB appears at the bottom left of my 8125's screen.
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faria
bootloader mode?
i haven't messed up any of my roms personally yet...but i've read in the past that there is a bootloader mode that you can try to enter and reflash your rom from there. maybe it'll work to try and reflash back to the 1.01 rom you started with?
gotta do a search on here to find it...i think it had something to do with holding the comm manager button and the voice dial button and hitting the small button on the right side of the phone between the voice dial and camera button...
waaait
It is how it's supposed to act. It shouldn't charge...it's in bootloader. Just after you hear the "device connected" sound start the button's rom upgrade. that's it. easy as pie
Or you can start with any 2.xx rom. i think it's going to work with that too.
Ok man, I'm such a spaz, alrigh, there's no active sync, but I am running the no id update utility. And it's running on the ppc, so hopefully, I'm making progress.
Exactly what I said
monkey_knight said:
i haven't messed up any of my roms personally yet...but i've read in the past that there is a bootloader mode that you can try to enter and reflash your rom from there. maybe it'll work to try and reflash back to the 1.01 rom you started with?
gotta do a search on here to find it...i think it had something to do with holding the comm manager button and the voice dial button and hitting the small button on the right side of the phone between the voice dial and camera button...
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That's what I'm trying to tell him. I went thru that. It worked perfectly for me, so it should for him.
anichillus said:
That's what I'm trying to tell him. I went thru that. It worked perfectly for me, so it should for him.
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It worked for me too.
Boo yah, well I'm back at button.s rom, time to try again. Thanks guys, you've been a world of help.
eightysixfilms said:
Boo yah, well I'm back at button.s rom, time to try again. Thanks guys, you've been a world of help.
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Also, it's not showing that the 8125 is charging either. On usb, or regular wall outlet. What have I gotten myself into?simply put the device in booloader mode and flash the latest aku2 rom from your provider...this will bring it to live again. due to an hardware flaw wizards cannot be charged with out a proper working OS ....if your battery has drained you need to find an alternative way of charging it and then only you can flash the rom.
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activesync is not needed once in bootloader ....
with pleasure
As i said...some mistakes come in handy
@ Faria ... man, I think that if you don't have active sync installed, it won't work... It installs some drivers, the first time it goes into bootloader(for an upgrade 4 example), but it's true that you don't need "active sync" ....course, it's verry possible that I'm wrong...but I had a motorola Mpx200 and it wouldn't recognize it for flash until I've installed active sync
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As i said...some mistakes come in handy
@ Faria ... man, I think that if you don't have active sync installed, it won't work... It installs some drivers, the first time it goes into bootloader(for an upgrade 4 example), but it's true that you don't need "active sync" ....course, it's verry possible that I'm wrong...but I had a motorola Mpx200 and it wouldn't recognize it for flash until I've installed active sync
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yes you correct you need the driver ..... what i meant to say is you dont need activesync in runing state.......but you do need activesyc in the pc in order to flash.....
thanks guys
Hey, got everything up and running, thanks to all those that helped out, ever in chicago let me know, we'll go out for some beers. But the newrom is up and running and everything seems to be going good. And hey I wasn't torn apart buy the elite on here. So thanks for making me not look stupid. haha
faria said:
yes you correct you need the driver ..... what i meant to say is you dont need activesync in runing state.......but you do need activesyc in the pc in order to flash.....
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Yeah I didn't know that either, I started to freak once i saw activesync wasn't picking up the 8125. But it's good to know that you don't necesarilly need it up and running.
Okay, ive seriously tried about every possible thing on here to get my stupid phone to work but heres my situation.
The ATT Tilt i have was working great up until a couple months ago. At one point it just shut off and then went straight to the RGB screen with
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.000
CPLD-8
and "serial" on the bottom
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
Ive tried flashing through the SD card, and it goes to the loading screen. I've used Dutty's, HyperDragon, and the original ROM as a test base. Hyper and Dutty's i renamed the RUU.nbh to KAISIMG.nbh and it goes to "Loading" and thats it. Ive even tried naming it KAISDIAG.nbh and still nothing. Stays there for a while but doesnt go anywhere. I dont know how long exactly its supposed to take to load the damn thing but every post ive seen makes me think that its just "It loads, flashes and you're done"
The furthest i got was with the original ROM i downloaded that was shipped with the phone. Not sure whether or not the version was correct but then again i have no idea what vers. my phone is or where to find the rom that works with it. Anyways, i used the shipped rom, named it KAISIMG.nbh loaded it, said Checking, then says "Not Allow" with some numbers n **** on the top (0028002), then resets back to the boot screen.
No, its not named KAISIMG.nbh.nbh im sure of it.
Its not a kingston sd or none of that.
Ive formatted, used fat32. (however, i cant make it allocate to 512. windows gives it a "default" allocation size which is unknown to me and i cant change it)
Whats wrong with this stupid phone.
Help me please.
ps. Ive searched the archives frivolously and havent really found anything that completely answers my question.
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
Well thanks for all the good info throughout the site though. a MAJOR help for someone who thought their $600 phone took a **** on them.
afrodude said:
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
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Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
afrodude said:
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
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Heres the software you can download, its all you really need.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/activesync45.mspx
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 is a new software update release for Windows Mobile powered devices that provides a great synchronization experience with Windows-powered PCs and Microsoft Outlook.
Note: Microsoft ActiveSync works only with Windows XP SP3 or earlier. If you have Windows Vista, your synchronization settings will be managed through the Windows Mobile Device Center. Windows Mobile Device Center is available through the Windows Mobile Device Center page.
Supported features
ActiveSync acts as the gateway between your Microsoft Windows-powered PC and Windows Mobile powered device and allows you to synchronize Microsoft Outlook information, Microsoft Office documents, pictures, music, videos and applications to and from your device.
Flying Kiwi said:
Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
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****.
Yeah. You're right.
My problem now is that once ive reset the tilt after the update, it goes right back into the RGB screen.
What gives now?
I just want the phone to work. Is there a WM6.0 i can download??
If so where?
Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
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Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
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Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow, all that yelling screams I DON'T REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO HELP ME.
Look at the wiki. You can fix it there. YOU'RE WELCOME.
afrodude said:
Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow and you expect to get help form a community by this kind of response ?
Look you are the one who brought a phone that has developed problems and came here for help...
I cannot help that you do not have what you need, that said go buy the $10 dollar cable BTW it is a commonly used cable so you might all ready own one if YOU SEARCH for it ,
download the proper software that was told to you .
GO SEARCH if this is the kind of response that you are going to give to others that might try to help...
good luck with your phone troubles....
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PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer.
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Uh, don't tell us you don't have a standard mini USB cable anywhere... you get one with pretty much any computer device you'd buy. You don't need anything more. As said, do an effort or find your way yourself.
Hi guys,
Well, I've searched the forum and get close...but no cigar. So, I'll go ahead and ask.
I have an AT&T Tilt, Flashed the 6.1 from XDA MONTHS ago, and have been running Slither's Cube...not even all the time...as well as the HTC Home Customizer.
Yep, that's it.
Well, I have purchased another Tilt with a busted screen (otherwise absolutely fine) for $30 and am waiting to afford a new screen for it...at which time I'll have a backup and then the Cooking and Flashing will begin in earnest!
But I digress. Here is the sequence of events, and where I am at now:
1) Went to hang up from a phone call (BT headset active) by pressing the "Hang Up" Button...no response from the phone.
2) Pressed the Power Button...no response.
3) Slid open the Keyboard...no response.
4) Held the Power Button...no response.
5) Dumped the battery and rebooted...AT&T Splash then Radio Info...stays right there. Screen will dim after awhile, but never goes out. Rebrightens when removing external Power.
6) Soft Reset...same result.
7) Only way to Power Down is dump the battery.
8) Removed SD and SIM...attempted Bootloader Screen
9) Bootloader DOES show up:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
Serial
10) I don't remember if there was anything with "Serial"...like a number or such...when I looked at it last (when flashing 6.1) so that may or may not be significant. There's nothing there now.
11) My Radios show up as:
R 1.27.14.09
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.62.00.00
I am avoiding Hard Reset or Re-Flash until I can at least figure out what happened...if anyone has any ideas...or find out that this is common and that's the best or only way to solve it etc.
Since I haven't found anything quite like this in the Forum, I'm presuming that it may not be so common and I may...or may NOT...be able to find a way back before going that path. As well, I really don't want to send it off for repair...although I have insurance and coverage through Hawk (our AT&T Provider) that would be reasonable for repair ($35) but perhaps inordinate for rreplacement ($175). I'd like to be able to resolve this myself, but not knowing what may be wrong leaves me only with Hard Reset and/or Re-Flash alternatives...if those will even work...so out goes the question:
Has anybody run into this or have any idea of why it happened or the BEST recourse to resolve it?
Thanks in advance for any and all info, y'all are awesome and I truly appreciate your help...
RAF
These phones freeze all the time. Software conflicts, too much running at once, and it just feels like screwing you when you need it most. And of course all of a sudden, the hardware just crashes and never works again.
It looks like a hard reset will solve your problems, unfortunately, unless you do regular backups, you will lose all your info.
Thanks denco7!
Well, this is the first time it has locked up that early in the boot...all others have been easily resolved.
Hard Reset is not an issue with Data...I do keep my phone (data) backed up and have most of my volatiles on the SD.
And, honestly, I don't mind having to reflash or reinstall my apps...at least not yet, once I start cooking my own I feel I'll get a bit testy when I have to 'start over'.
I should probably find a good full backup app to snapshot the whole phone, then just put it back on when things 'happen'.
I do have a full backup from December using the 'supplied' app, so it will at least have most of the tweaks in it.
I'm gonna do the Hard Reset and see if that clears this, but I must say I'm not that hopeful.
Not really an expert...not a noob either...but this technology is just not rocket science, and I can actually do that along with quite a bit more.
Don't ask me to write a driver tho...I respect anyone that has that kind of patience!
Suffice to say, this just doesn't "feel" like a resetable issue...but I'm game. I'll update once attempted.
Thanks again, see you on the other side...
RAF
Okay...no joy on the Hard Reset. Behavior has stayed the same. Kinda expected that tho...
Next stop, Re-flash the ROM. I'm gonna check on latest releases of 'Official' HTC ROMs...but if anyone has any suggestions I'm open.
I'm still hoping that someone out there knows what happened here, it would be helpful to know the 'why'.
Thanks again...
not so much a suggestion but a correction. You don't have a wm6.1 rom but actually have a wm6 rom because the radio you have flashed i.e. R 1.27.14.09
is a wm6 radio not wm6.1 and that radio is only compatible with the following roms:
AT&T 1.60.502.3
AT&T 1.61.502.2
AT&T 1.62.502.0
Q-Mobile 1.2 AT&T Version
(source for above info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182)
so make sure that your rom matches the radio you have. I would recommend that if flashing is not something new to you than go ahead and upgrade your rom and radio to wm6.1 rom and see if the issue presists.
hope this helps
first post you stated you have a 6.1 rom but your spl is for a 6.0 rom, either your not on a 6.1 rom or your on the wrong SPL and should HARDspl if your flashing custom roms.
Thanks Guys...
I had it in my head that I went to 6.1 when I flashed it last...went out and looked at the file and sure enough it was 6.0.
This is what happens when u have 7 kids, 6 female and 4 of those in college...I'm too broke to pay attention.
No not new to flashing, and when I can get home before 10-11p some night...or this weekend...that's my plan.
Looking for the best choice 6.1 to flash and attempt to bring it back, but still curious as to the behavior in the first place.
Thanks for pointing out my ADD, and all comments are welcome...
Hoping for the un-bricking soon...
RAF
Now I'm REALLY Currious...and Frustrated! A Little Help Please...
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
Rustafergi said:
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
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If you cannot flash a 6.1 rom or install the correct hard spl I would not even attempt using MTTY. Go to the rom section of this forum. Look for "spl rollup thread" it is a sticky from DaveShaw. Pick any 3.xx hard spl's for 6.1 rom and download. Now download jumpspl and place it somewhere on your device other than your memory card. Now run jumpspl and follow the rest of the directions in that thread. After you installed the correct SPL find a 6.1 rom and flash your device. If your sound doesn't work change your radio to a compatible radio, which would be listed in the "ultimate radio thread" by alltheway.
These are the basics. Hope it helps.
Rustafergi said:
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
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Wow! I think you missed the advice and wisdom given to you about NOT FLASHING a 6.1 ROM with the SPL for a 6.0 ROM...
Anyways, lets see if we can help... I don't think you are going to be able to flash a SPL, as you probably can't even get an active sync connection to copy over the files...
So, try getting into boot loader screen; you hold down the camera button and then press in the rest button and hold that until a tri-color screen appears...
Then tell us exactly what it says, just to make sure we know which SPL you have... Then I will post a link to the exact ROM you need to flash to hopefully bring her back to life.
If you are not able to get into boot loader, which wouldn't surprise me, someone else with more experience un-bricking will have to help.
Some Answers and Info...Still Confused
redbandana said:
If you cannot flash a 6.1 rom or install the correct hard spl I would not even attempt using MTTY. Go to the rom section of this forum. Look for "spl rollup thread" it is a sticky from DaveShaw. Pick any 3.xx hard spl's for 6.1 rom and download. Now download jumpspl and place it somewhere on your device other than your memory card. Now run jumpspl and follow the rest of the directions in that thread. After you installed the correct SPL find a 6.1 rom and flash your device. If your sound doesn't work change your radio to a compatible radio, which would be listed in the "ultimate radio thread" by alltheway.
These are the basics. Hope it helps.
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pjcforpres said:
Wow! I think you missed the advice and wisdom given to you about NOT FLASHING a 6.1 ROM with the SPL for a 6.0 ROM...
Anyways, lets see if we can help... I don't think you are going to be able to flash a SPL, as you probably can't even get an active sync connection to copy over the files...
So, try getting into boot loader screen; you hold down the camera button and then press in the rest button and hold that until a tri-color screen appears...
Then tell us exactly what it says, just to make sure we know which SPL you have... Then I will post a link to the exact ROM you need to flash to hopefully bring her back to life.
If you are not able to get into boot loader, which wouldn't surprise me, someone else with more experience un-bricking will have to help.
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Hi again,
Thanks to redbandana and pjcforpres for the responses...I thought I might not get anymore!
I'll start with pjcforpres,
First, my appologies if I have not been specific enough on my descriptions...I've been attempting to be more succinct (I'm not so good at that).
This was a Stock ROM Tilt, then I had flashed RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe quite awhile back...shortly after it was available.
I added Slither's Cube and the HTC Home Screen and Customizer and have run it that way since then.
Somehow, I got it in my head that I had flashed 6.1 but I was flat out mistaken...hence the comment in the earlier part of the thread.
Then we get to the #1 post in this thread...add some confusion and voila.
The ref'd 6.1 flash was also Stock...RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe...and I thought I read everything, incl that it replaces the SPL.
Durring the flash, it pauses @ 13%, the USB disconnect 'bing' sounds and the Bootloader screen reappears showing SPL-3.02.000.
Then, the USB reconnect 'bing' sounds, goes back to the % screen and then completes the flash successfully.
My Bootloader screen is now:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.000
CPLD-8
So...did I miss something and screw up? Or was I on the right track?
And redbandana,
It did successfully flash 6.1, but it still doesn't start...specifically, get passed the initial AT&T Splash.
Although I had already thought of going to JockyW's HardSPL 3.29, I cannot 'see' the phone in XP and therefore cannot get JumpSPL onto it...so, no HardSPL (unless I missed something else in the threads).
It DOES however give me the USB 'bing' sound when I go into the Bootloader...but clicking on the "Mobile Device" icon in Windows Exploder leaves a 'blank' right pane.
Before your post, I had read up on MTTY and noted the DON'Ts...like DON'T use task 2a!...and found several threads with commands.
None of the info commands seem to fuction, like info 2, info 7 or info 8 so I don't have much 'info' there.
One of the things I tried was 'task 28' to format the thing in case there was some corruption...this was the response:
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Storage start sector=0xC2C0, total sector=0xF000
Storage start block=800, total block=960
Total Bad Block in CE: 1
Erase physical block from 1091 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1397
formatstorage Bad block found: 1398
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
So I looked for 'bad blocks' on the Forum and there are suggestions to contact JockyW and GSLEON3 for more help.
I haven't as yet done this thinking I can work my way through this by searching the Forum and monitoring this Post.
My searches for MTTY Commands have shown me that there are different Commands for different SPLs, and the info is way scattered and confusing.
It is becoming clear(er) to me that I have an issue that is not that normal...or at least not with an intermediate level 'fix'.
That's why I asked for more help in the right direction, I feel like I've hit this pretty hard and done alot of footwork on my own.
I also feel like I'm running out of options and may resort to bugging JockyW and GSLEON3...unless there are any more suggestions
PLEASE let me know if there is more info that I can provide to narrow this down, or some procedure to attemt, or an MTTY comand that will give us more info, or another search in the Forum for something specific I've missed...or simply some PFM that can be performed...and I'll be HAPPY to comply!
Thanks again...and again...for the assistance, my grattitude and appreciation out!
RAF
I am going to be short and swet for the moment... my computer crashed so I am solely on my phone until I work again around 2 central time USA...
Good news is that there is a chance without MTTY to get you running, and if not, those with the knowledge are very hepful and patient.
I will do the searches tomorrow for the stock ROM you should try, and give a walk through on how to flash using a micro SD card.
I am out for now, and will get back to you as soon as I can tomorrow.
Patient and Prepared
Thanks pjc...if we can fix this I'll vote for you
I sincerely appreciate the assistace, and PLEASE let me know if there's any research I can do to facilitate.
If you're willing, let me know if I took a wrong turn somewhere or if I did something to make this worse...I like to learn from my mistakes (I AM pretty good at those...)
I just got the new screen for my backup Tilt and I'll be swapping that out tomorrow (uh...today) sometime, so I'll have a reference phone soon.
Askew but relevant, I'm on day 12 of a nasty cranial muscle spasm and 3 days into meds for it...so we'll see if I can stay focused
Thanks again and in advance...
RAF...Tilted
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Try downloading from here... it is the 100% official AT&T Tilt 6.1 ROM, plus upgrade tool.
This includes everything you need, and is probably what you flashed already, but it sounds like you had a bad flash or something...
Make sure your computer doesn't go into hibernate during this process, and that you don't have anything running other than the update program and activesync...
Also, make sure when you run the update program, you right click and select 'run as administrator' or 'run as' then in the menu that comes after that select administrator.
If you can't establish an activesync connection, or if you are using Vista, and thus no Windows Mobile Device Center connection can be established, let me know, and I will track down the ROM by itself and the Radio by itself and walk you through that.
This should be the easiest fix, though, so we will try this first.
Been There, Done That...I Think ?!?
pjcforpres said:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
1] Try downloading from here... it is the 100% official AT&T Tilt 6.1 ROM, plus upgrade tool.
2] This includes everything you need, and is probably what you flashed already, but it sounds like you had a bad flash or something...
Make sure your computer doesn't go into hibernate during this process, and that you don't have anything running other than the update program and activesync...
3] Also, make sure when you run the update program, you right click and select 'run as administrator' or 'run as' then in the menu that comes after that select administrator.
If you can't establish an activesync connection, or if you are using Vista, and thus no Windows Mobile Device Center connection can be established, let me know, and I will track down the ROM by itself and the Radio by itself and walk you through that.
This should be the easiest fix, though, so we will try this first.
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1] Yep, same one I have already flashed several times to determine if there was a pattern.
2] ActiveSync will not connect...remember from #1 in this post:
1) Went to hang up from a phone call (BT headset active) by pressing the "Hang Up" Button...no response from the phone.
2) Pressed the Power Button...no response.
3) Slid open the Keyboard...no response.
4) Held the Power Button...no response.
5) Dumped the battery and rebooted...AT&T Splash then Radio Info...stays right there. Screen will dim after awhile, but never goes out. Rebrightens when removing external Power.
6) Soft Reset...same result.
7) Only way to Power Down is dump the battery.
8) Removed SD and SIM...attempted Bootloader Screen
9) Bootloader DOES show up:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
I've never gotten passed the initial AT&T Splash since then...no matter soft hard reset flash the 6.0 ROM that was already on it or this 6.1 version.
Only difference is when I flashed this 6.1 ROM, the Radio and Protocol Versions that normally pop up at the bottom in red no longer pop up.
It now stays at the initial AT&T Splash, no versions, and never dims the backlight.
The ONLY time my Laptop 'sees' the Phone is when I put in into the Bootloader I get the USB 'bu-bingk'.
MTTY can see it, and the ROM Upgrades see it and run successfully...but Exploder can't and neither does ActiveSync.
Just to clarify that I've been there more than once...
3] Well, that I have not attempted...but all my previous flashes have gone fine (I am the only user on my Alenware Aurora m7700...and effectively I AM the Administrator), so I'll attempt that...(see next).
I downloaded, overwrote and ran this 6.1 ROM again...I set this XP install with me as the only Administrator (only user other than Guest), and I want to point something out that may be significant:
The Screnshots below show that there's no info in the Current Image Version area, I click on 'Update' and get the 2nd one.
(okay, sorry I haven't attempted very hard to embrace multiquote or embed a screenshot yet )
But this has happened every attemp to reflash after the initial sequence of events. As well, the same events recurred during the flash as all attempts before:
Durring the flash, it pauses @ 13%, the USB disconnect 'bing' sounds and the Bootloader screen reappears showing SPL-3.02.000.
Then, the USB reconnect 'bing' sounds, goes back to the % screen and then completes the flash successfully.
So...did I screw up somewhere? I really thought I had a handle on the 'small steps' that I took..it was the 'next steps' that I was mildly trepidatious about.
My understanding and instincts point to the 'bad blocks' errors durring the MTTY 'task 28' format, but I can't find anything pertinent to 'do' about it in the Forums...other than contacting JockyW or GSLEON3.
I want to try SOMETHING on my own before I go bothering them with a PM...although I've read (and even learned) alot here recently on TOP of what I had already learned over the last 2½ years, I feel I've got to at least attempt something before begging for help that way.
Still, I haven't found a path to get this basal into the core of the phone to noodle (safely mind you) around and become more adept so that I can solve these issues on my own...and it may be time to capitulate.
Let me know if you've spotted an error on my part...something I did or didn't do...or if there's another path I should take or search in the Forum I should look up.
Thanks ton again...and my appologies to all for my un-succinct pontifications...
(S)tilted...RAF
I don't think you are really doing anything wrong on your part, it just doesn't want to flash right... I had you try the stock stuff again just to make sure it was a clean download, and a clean flash.
I am not sure if it is the SPL not matching the ROM, or the Radio... The MTTY commands do indicate a problem with something not flashing right to the phone. Especially since that download has been recommended and successful so many times for people with a similar situation. I have done a fair amount of looking into this myself, and I have found a couple solutions:
1. Some people found success by flashing the same stock AT&T ROM 2 -5 times, and then it finally caught and worked right.
2. Others found luck by flashing a HardSPL, then new Radio, then new ROM.
3. They PM one of the greats... right now in the Kaiser area, JockyW is amazing! But is mostly focused on newer devices. I would recommend contacting mskip or DaveShaw. They have much more experience than I do, and should have a better idea of exactly what those block errors mean, and the solution....
If I were you I would try one last time doing a hard rest, you may need to hold down the 2 soft keys and the rest button extra long to get it to register... I would also try flashing that same upgrade 1 last time, followed by 1 last shot at a hard rest. If you still have the same stuff going on, I would contact those 2 guys and see what their wisdom says... mskip moderates the "NOOB flashing guide" thread and DaveShaw is a moderator for the Kaiser section in general.
Thanks pjcforpres...Contacting DaveShaw...Any Other Ideas?
Okay, one more time...and, no joy. Held the Soft Keys for 2 mintes solid for the Hard Reset, Reflashed, then another 2min Hard Reset.
I've resorted to sending DaveShaw a PM per the suggestion and will patiently wait for a reply.
In the mean time, if there's ANY other suggestions or a list of MTTY commands that run on the 3.56.000 SPL that can get info from the phone to help determine what the actual problem is or to correct bad blocks I'd be SERIOUSLY appreciative and VERY grateful.
Thanks to all who have responded, and in advance to all who may help from here...
RAF
A Little Updated Info:
Replaced the screen on my 'backup' Tilt, and flashed the RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_s ign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe ROM thaT I had flashed on the 'bricked' one.
It had the same behavior @ 13%, so I'm certain now that the flash went fine...I am even more convinced, with all of the events and symptoms to this point, that the issue lies in the 'bad blocks' reported durring the MTTY task 28 format.
I've left a PM for DaveShaw...and I AM patient...but if there is someone that may be more appropriate for this question I'd like to contact them as well. If anyone knows the right Guru, please let me know.
Thanks again to all...
RAF
Well I'm here at last sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I'm not sure how much I can help you though .
Can you post the output of "info 2" and "info 8" from an MTTY connection to your bootloader.
Also, can you please clarify: are you stuck at the bootloader (red/green/blue) or the splash screen (with R G D)?
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Well I'm here at last sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I'm not sure how much I can help you though .
Can you post the output of "info 2" and "info 8" from an MTTY connection to your bootloader.
Also, can you please clarify: are you stuck at the bootloader (red/green/blue) or the splash screen (with R G D)?
Thanks
Dave
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Wow man, THANKS for just bein here!
That's just it Dave, none of the info commands in MTTY seem to return anything (see #10). I've used MTTY: ver. 0.01 2001 and ver. 1.42 1997-2001 and both report literally nothing for info 2 info 7 or info 8...just another Cmd> prompt. However, (also in #10) I get to the 'bad blocks' ref running "task 28":
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Storage start sector=0xC2C0, total sector=0xF000
Storage start block=800, total block=960
Total Bad Block in CE: 1
Erase physical block from 1091 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1397
formatstorage Bad block found: 1398
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
Remember, the stuff in #1 of the thread happens and then I went through all this digging...took it to where I could and posted.
This wasn't a HardSPL fail or a bad Flash... I had BEEN running stock HTC 6.0 WWE with Slither's Cube, the HTC Home Screen and Home Customizer.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe (flashed 07/20/08)
This isn't a RUUNBH issue either, and I can get into Bootloader and I'm not 'stuck' there...currently:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.000
CPLD-8
I can flash stock ROMs all day long w/no errors...flashed HTC 6.1 WWE on my backup Tilt to be sure the behaviors were the same, and they are exactly.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe runs FINE on the backup Tilt.
After flashing the HTC 6.1 WWE on the 'bricked' one however, there is no longer the R G D Radio Protocol info at the bottom of the AT&T Splash after the initial Splash...it was there before the 6.1 flash, and that's where it used to hang: Initial Splash, R G D, hang...backlight eventually dimed but never went out...battery dump only way off.
Now it hangs at the Initial Splash, NO R G D, NO backlight dim...still needs battery dump for off. It ACTS like it's lost it's damn mind...
I'm pretty sure I 'downgraded' back to the 6.0 mentioned above and went thru some similar steps to confirm, but I didn't write it all down and I'm way ADD so I can do that one again and record it all this time...unless that's a bad idea.
I very recently (like as I was searching I saw you had answered my plea...) found some other references to a MFG HardSPL that someone was thinking about working on to fix bad blocks, but I haven't read through it all yet. And, since Exploder and ActiveSync simply can't 'see' the phone, I'm not sure that I could get a HardSPL on the thing in the first place...'cause I can't get no JumpSPL on the phone itself...should've done that back when it was working I guess
I truly believe I'm at the 'needing guru help' level at this point, but if you see something I should do PLEASE point me that way and I'll dive right in. Also, like I've asked others, if you see something I did wrong or in the wrong order or whatever, please let me know that also...there's GOT to be something I can actually LEARN from this.
I warned you I tend to pontificate, but I hope that this clears up where I'm at. ANY help you can provide is fantastic and greatly appreciated, even if it's just to tell me to go somewhere else (I'm kinda used to that )
Thanks again, seriously...
RAF
In that case I have no idea. I think GSLEON3, jockyw2001 or cmonex are going to be the only one's who can help you.
Dave