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Speaker not fully duplex?

Hi,
I have a very weird problem with my Tytn II, which I bought little over a week now.
People I was talking to complained they didn't hear me very good, the sound appeared to drop. It occured to me that it was happening when I used the speaker (handsfree) of the phone.
I did some testing, and this is what happens:
I (with the Tytn II) call person X, and when I and person X are talking together, person X cannot hear me, the sound on his side simply fades to nothing, until 1 of us keeps quiet. The same happens when for example sound from my car is picked up by the phone, thus resulting in the device not being usable in the car, since there's always some noise. I however on my side keep hearing person X, it's person X that doesn't hear me.
It happens with 2 sim cards, everyone I call, did a hard reset, HTC support doesn't know the problem...
I'm puzzled. Can anyone suggest anything? Or is it faulty?
Thanks

no, mine does the same thing. I got it a few days ago and when i used speaker while driving, i could hear the other person perfect, but they cant seem to hear me. It feels like half duplex. i hope this is fixable

Damn, it seems widespread then...?
Anyone who can test it?

maybe it has to do with whatever noise cancelling algorithm is in effect is mucking everything up

ziddey said:
maybe it has to do with whatever noise cancelling algorithm is in effect is mucking everything up
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Meaning that every single device would have this, and thus mine not being faulty?

I had the same problem but remembered that there was an automatic sound function which turns down the volume when talking is too hard and turns it up when to soft. Its called microphone agc and you can find it under system configuration. Now that it's turned off my dutch htc tytn II works fine in handsfree mode. Hoop this helps you also

downnootje said:
I had the same problem but remembered that there was an automatic sound function which turns down the volume when talking is too hard and turns it up when to soft. Its called microphone agc and you can find it under system configuration. Now that it's turned off my dutch htc tytn II works fine in handsfree mode. Hoop this helps you also
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It's already turned off :-( .
However, I just called with HTC, and they said it's because of the mic and the speaker being too close to each other, and thus it compensates.
They say every model has it however, they did a test today and the result was that it was a feature, not a bug...
Anyone here who does not have it on his device?

I have this problem all the time, both on speaker and just using the phone to my ear as normal.
People complain I am very quiet or that the sound is choppy and I sound like a robot
I used to have this problem on the O2 XDA IIs a few years ago.

Anyone else have it too? I'd like to know asap if this device is faulty, or if it's normal?
Sometimes, it seems that when I'm holding it to my ear, the sound seem to drop on the other side too...

I have exactly the same problem. People have trouble hearing me with loudspeaker switched on. Without speaker they can hear me perfectly.

I have the same problem too. Just try to disable the Microphone AGC thing and it fixes the problem. Thanks downnootje.

I have teh same problem , but I tried something and it is improved the Operation , try to minimize the Speaker volume to the minimum level and then it improes a little and it works for me ; not all the time but that is what we can do at the moment

I'm convinced now that it's a mojor problem.
Mine even got worse: since yesterday, it's happening without handsfree too, people can't almost hear me when I just hold it to my ear...
Is this a phone still, or can't it be used as such?

try enableing Microphone AGC thing, restart phone, and disable it

Me too. Juz got my set 2 days back. The other party hears my voice intermittently chop-off...
I have faced the similar problem on a particular China-made TV phone too. Tested two other units of the same model still the same. It seems to me the phone design issue, as after I changed to another model of China-made TV phone, the problem solved.
Sigh! Already got this expensive phone, think have to bear with this feature then if it is really cannot be resolved by new ROM.

same problem
i have the same problem...with my 8525 when I was on the train or in a similar noisy situation i never had any trouble with people hearing me on the other end...with the tilt i can't even carry on a conversation on the train...i called tech support and they told me to swap it out for a new one.

ziploker said:
try enableing Microphone AGC thing, restart phone, and disable it
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I've tried that and it doesn't help! Quite sad about it. I need to use speaker handsfree especially during driving.... Don't really like to hook-up the headset or BT headset... too messy for wired headset and too tedius (charging) for BT headset...

Now that I know its half duplex it works pretty well in the car - I just wait for the other person to stop talking
Surur

I will be sending mine to HTC for a planned hardware fix as they agreed there is a defect that affects all kaiser and tilts, but NOT the MDA VARIO III. this is a known issue and is hardware related. Good news for those who havent purchased one yet. I will sell mine on ebay if they dont asign me a RA soon. I rather have the MDA VARIO III as it has 2 cams.

(doesnt your HTC TYTN2 has 2 camera's?)
Same problem here. Hope for a sollution soon!
Will call HTC too soon, so theyll have more complaints about this defect.

Phone stuck in "headphone mode" (PLEASE HELP)

For somereason, my phone is stuck in Headphone mode.
like on the top corner, it shows that my phone is still in headphone state.
the problem is that even when my headphone is unplugged my phone is still in that state...
...meaning that, without my headphones plugged in, the other party cannot hear me and i cannot hear them.
i tried soft and hard resetting the phone, but nothing works.
Everything else is working phone, it just that i cannot make a call, answer a call, listen to music without my headphone....
Any help or tips is greatly appreciated.
Thanks alot!!

it already happend to my phone.. what i did is i connect the headset again and did remove my battery and remove the headset then turned on the phone again and the headset icon disappears.
if your problem still continues, i guess you should go to sony ericsson for replacement it seems your jack is grounded or alike. i heard that the jack is somewhat tight and could put a groove in you headset male jack.

PROBLEM SOLVED....
http://www.portability.nl/windows-m...artphone-stuck-in-headset-or-car-profile.html
apparently its a hardward problem...

I had the same problem. This is what i did put your headset back in turn windows media player on now start a song and pull out the headset. Now it should get out of headset mode. Thats what has been working for me twice.

The other thing to watch for too, and this was a big problem with the older model HTC/SPV Devices, is that the detection switch inside the socket gets stuck.
I had this happen many times on my various SPV's up until HTC Started producing models where the headphones plugged into the mini USB.
If it does happen to be the switch getting stuck, you can try plugging in the headset and wiggling it about a bit, or i found that a wooden cocktail stick was a rather good device, to just poke in and rattle about a little bit.

shawty said:
If it does happen to be the switch getting stuck, you can try plugging in the headset and wiggling it about a bit, or i found that a wooden cocktail stick was a rather good device, to just poke in and rattle about a little bit.
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the stylus is good too.

Hi there,
got the same problem. Tried everything, soft- and hard-reset, cleaned the connector with some alcohol....
Just before i got in the mood to open the case to have a deeper look at the connector, i stumbled over here
This is what i did put your headset back in turn windows media player on now start a song and pull out the headset. Now it should get out of headset mode. Thats what has been working for me twice.
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This also worked for me
As a conclusion, i think there are several reasons (as usual ) that lead to this problem.
It may partly rely on the connector itself, e.g. bad "on" resistance of the contacts or mechanical twisted in any way.
Maybe some of the internal pull-up resistors are to weak also.
Additionally the software driver may have some issues, to indicate the "plug out" properly.
I also had such issue on HTC universal once upon a time.
It was also partly software related. In other words some "plug-in-plug-out" loops while playing some music solved the issue on that device.
Anyway, this maybe called another weird bug on a winmob platform.
Thanks for the hint again!!!
Best regards,
scholbert

It's me again
I wonder if these headphone problems had gone with the latest firmware.
With R1AA017 the "headphone mode" issue could be reproduced a 1000 times.
1. Today screen, plug in the headphone
2. plug out headphone, headphone symbol stays active
3. plug in headphone again and start WM player
4. start some music, plug out headphone, symbol is gone, sound from the speaker
EDIT:
As it seems with R2AA006 the "headphone mode" issue is gone.
1. Today screen, plug in the headphone, headphone symbol appears
2. plug out headphone, headphone symbol disappears
Works as it should!
Anyway, please report if you ever got these problems and what kind of firmware you are using.
Let's try to concentrate on stock images (R2... , R3...), otherwise this would get very confusing
Cheers,
scholbert

sent it back for repair ... this happened to me twice and i sent it back for repair and the problem was with the headphone not the phone itself

Hi it happened to me as well. so after few times i was pi.... off and i send it to back to SE repair centre. and i also claim a crack in case. and believe or not they fix it in 12 days. That means SE knows those problems very well. my advise is dont be shy and send it there , they will fix it without any hassle.

try to drain the battery and charge it back up.

I also sent it back. After 5 weeks the idiots at SE Service returned it unrepaired, charged me 40 €, and claimed that the phone was once opened (it was not).
Will now buy an HTC or Nokia. Never ever again an SE.

It Got Solved
Hi It's very simple take your stylus and insert it into the headphone socket and move very gently, It will solve the problem.
For me it had worked always.
Weird but works

Hi all
ive been having the same prob here ... :
phone remains in headset mode even after jack is unplugged.
have been trying:
turning registry entry
blowing (worked at very rare times )
stylus/ pin playing ..
till now, no good solution
my request:
is there a way ( cab install, registry hack) so as to disable the whole of the headset.. its ok if i dont use it anymore.. ! i want it software, like some sort of software to disable the headset module completely ...
awaiting reply.
thanks & Regards,

Yeah I think there is a way. If you search for when I posted about this last year I think someone says how to do it in the comments.
Lots of people seem to be claiming that software tricks can solve this problem. If that worked for you, that's a co-incidence. Even re-flashing a different ROM won't sort out a mechanical fault. Just go get a safety pin.

my experience about the headphone problem
First time, when happaned I was crazy, because I coudn't answer a call and the phone looks like was broken. I suggest,(not a big deal) to close the player program prior you disconnet you headphone or in radio panel mode, to swicth to speaker listenig first and then plug off headphone. Nothing else, don't worry

Well, since I'm using a new phone I've decided I'm going to open my phone up to manually fix this problem as for me, what happened was, a very tiny screw got lodged within the headphone jack. I managed to get the screw out but I think I damaged the connector responsible for signaling that a headset is plugged in.
I have one problem however, I dont have the security screwdrivers nessary to gain access so I'm wondering, if anyone know any tricks to open the phone up. I've heard I can use locktite to bond the screw to whatever I want to use however that would be something I'd consider if I cant think of anything else. Until then I'll try using a screw driver just large enough to wedge itself in place and unscrew but if anyone has any ideas or suggestions, please if you would be so kind.
In the meantime if I make any headway I'll let you know what happens. (Does anyone want to know anything if I do open it up?).

Ok I opened it up... Let me tell you it certainly was difficult. My phone had suffered the cracking problem which made it somewhat hard to take apart without it falling to bits but I managed nevertheless.
As I peeled away parts of the phone to get to the small headphone jack, I instantly found the problem, the little clip that performs as the switch to headset mode was buckled... I got some really tiny pliers and I managed to re-bend it however, the clip wasn't touching the contact switch! *RAGE*. So I play around with it a little more and realise hang on... it's moving too much, I then noticed that the clip was actually cracked *ANGER*.
So I decided... ok, off goes the clip. I permanently soldered the connection instead and hey presto, no more headset mode, of course this means, I can never use headset mode but that's not a problem for me.
If anyone wants any help, please feel free to ask . I managed to give the keyboard a clean also! (No more double presses or keys that dont respond either!).

With this goddamn problem, is it possible to connect stereo bluetooth with sound?

Hammerhead89 said:
With this goddamn problem, is it possible to connect stereo bluetooth with sound?
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Answering the last question: YES it should work as bluetooth audio has nothing to do with the headphone jack and I normally used bluetooth headset with the headphone mode stucked
coming back to topic It seems it is depending on case more soft or hardware-related. in my case it was rather hardware, no mediaplayer/radio method helping and putting stylus in helped only two times.
So I used compressed air to blow through the jack and then cleaned it with the earbud head/material ONLY (as the bud does not fit in) on a wooden stick (but then you might have hard times to pull the rest of the budhead out)
Anyways it worked, so far after many tries to make sure it doesn't get stucked !
I guess in future WD40 may be even better
Man this phone is so good and yet so full of bugs !!

(HELP) xperia stuck in headset mode

its been a few months now and still no parts for my xperia so i cant get it fixed.
i have been wondering if its possible for someone to make a cab to turn off/on hardware headset jack or forcibly use handset speaker when in a call orsomething?
BTW i have tried all possible fixes using the "search feature"

Are you describing the problem where even though there is nothing plugged into the 3.5mm jack, the XPERIA thinks you've got something plugged in? If so, I'm having the same issue and have found that a quick way to fix this is to take the stylus and wiggle it about at the bottom of 3.5mm jack. This clears it up.

well yeah that worked before but my jack is kinda broken but working
some of the metal in the jack is really loose and the jack has a small broken part.

I had the same issue where my headphone jack reported that there was a constant headphone plugged in, it happened after I plugged a damaged headphone port into the phone.
It took many hours of research and a very intricate and careful dissasembly to fix the issue. I meant to take photos, but my primary camera ( my X1 ) was in pieces at the time..
Anyway, there's a little connector inside the headphone jack that makes contact with a pad, closing a circut, if the connector is bent too far out of the way, it doesn't make contact, and the phone thinks there is a headset inserted.
If your connector is actually broken, you'll have to jerry-rig a wire or something between the two plates to force it to know there's nothing in, but then you lose all headphone functions.
I had to bend the strip of copper to -exactly- how it should be, and it worked out for me, my phone is back how it used to be.
I hope this is of some help to someone, if it happens to me again, I'll document it properly, unfortunately I was in a rush this time, so I didn't have time to prepare properly, I went gung-ho and ripped it to pieces to get it right again.

what about a "software" method of fixing this problem?
doesn't windows mobile support turning headset off, from the registry, for example?
while using radio you can still redirect the sound to the main speaker, (this option is available on the radio panel) something like this feature can help us, i think..

Same problem here. I have tried some suggestion over here but didn't work. You may try it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4485113#post4485113
I'm tired with annoying wire headset and now using a BT headset to be able make/receive calls.
Hope somebody can help us before we send back for repairing.

It happened to me, simply insert a clean "cotton buds" and pull it out again. I think, a dirt just got stuck causing some hardware short circuit or something. Don't know....but it definitely worked for me. I have tried those hardresets, softresets, tweaks and unfortunately none of them worked.

try to drain the battery and charge it back up.

Sometimes would be nice to combine some of the threads because they refer to the same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529449
Anyway from my knowledge there are two reasons for this problem.
You may guess
1. Hardware:
This issue had been described very often. Of course the jack is a delicate piece of hardware, which could be damaged physically due to some bad plug or violent force.
2. Software:
It's obvious that the connection is controlled by a piece of software.
I realized that the problem had gone with the latest update.
Maybe it would be helpful to know about the firmware version you got on your phone.
P.S.: Anyone out there who may add this issue to the wiki?
scholbert

Cant hear caller

Hey guys, Im having an issue with my xperia. I reflashed it to a new rom and hard-reset it. For some reason I can't hear the caller nor can the caller hear me when Im on a call. This just randomly started happening one day. Anyone help?
Edit, I just ntoiced my headphone icon won't go away. So I can only hear people if a headphone is connected, anyone know any way around this cause I'm thinking my sensor may be messed up. I dont know what to do now

SAV you can't do anything about this issue.
I have the same bug 3 months ago then my phone came back normal and 2 weeks ago the bug re appeared so SAV again ....

-connect your headphone
-run windows player with a video or an audio file
-during the play, slowly disconnect your headphone
The headphone icon must be away
If it does not work, the only solution is SAV...

well i was able to fix it yesterday. I dont know which one of these fixed it but I tried two methods. First I read is plugging in the headphone and slowly taking it out of the jack while pushing the headphone jack towards the screen. Then someone wrote that they used the pressurized air cleaner to blow inside the headphone hole. After trying those two methods, the headphone icon went away. Seems to be fine now. Thanks for the help though!
Maybe this will help someone else.
Also, what is SAV?

i got stereo bluetooth headphones and i haven't tested them yet. i got the same problem with this icon, and it won't go away. So, my question is: IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONNECT STREO BLUETOOTH WITH THIS ICON ON THE SCREEN?

[Q] Got to use loudspeaker or earphones to hear somebody I called.

I have a Desire 500 and I replaced the screen and since, I can't hear the dialling tone or the person on the other end, incoming or outgoing, I have to turn on loudspeaker or use earphones. Just to add I've replaced many phone screens for customers without a problem. I've checked the connections etc and all seem ok. just wondering if anyone knows what caused it. Is it a sensor that's faulty or something. The speaker works in music and video etc. Is there another speaker?, as I can only see the one at the top about 15mm long.
I've done a factory reset as I know sometimes you have to after a screen replacement.

frenchscottie said:
I have a Desire 500 and I replaced the screen and since, I can't hear the dialling tone or the person on the other end, incoming or outgoing, I have to turn on loudspeaker or use earphones. Just to add I've replaced many phone screens for customers without a problem. I've checked the connections etc and all seem ok. just wondering if anyone knows what caused it. Is it a sensor that's faulty or something. The speaker works in music and video etc. Is there another speaker?, as I can only see the one at the top about 15mm long.
I've done a factory reset as I know sometimes you have to after a screen replacement.
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There is a speaker on the back of the phone.

frenchscottie said:
I have a Desire 500 and I replaced the screen and since, I can't hear the dialling tone or the person on the other end, incoming or outgoing, I have to turn on loudspeaker or use earphones. Just to add I've replaced many phone screens for customers without a problem. I've checked the connections etc and all seem ok. just wondering if anyone knows what caused it. Is it a sensor that's faulty or something. The speaker works in music and video etc. Is there another speaker?, as I can only see the one at the top about 15mm long.
I've done a factory reset as I know sometimes you have to after a screen replacement.
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I have disassembled the phone myself pretty often,
did you connect these little white cables correctly and also the flex cables?
You probably might need to check the connectors there.

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There is a speaker on the back of the phone.
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Iv'e not got the phone in front of me right now, but do you mean the back you take off to get to the battery etc?
I know the speaker that sits just below the main circuit board, but couldn't see any others.

Fliwatt said:
I have disassembled the phone myself pretty often,
did you connect these little white cables correctly and also the flex cables?
You probably might need to check the connectors there.
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You say "These little white cables", so i'm looking for a picture but you haven't attached one.
The only cables are the 3 flex ribbon cables, antenna (2 ends) and the vibrate motor.
And they are all fine.
As I said it rings and plays music and works on loud speaker.