ATT Tilt with 3.5mm Sound Quality - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I know the main point of a Tilt is not it's MP3 player function, but I just purchased an ATT Tilt and I am considering buying a 3.5mm adapter for it and just selling my Zune and use the Tilt as my MP3 player.
My question is, can anyone tell me how good the Tilt sounds with premium headphones and a 3.5mm adapter? Also, which adapter would you recommend. Thank you for your time.

It's surprisingly pretty good with phones, either through the cable or using the phone's Bluetooth to the Sony Bluetooth headphones that sell for about $100 at Best Buy. Seido (search on this site) sells the mini-USB to mini-stereo cable as well as a bunch of styli that I always seem to loose.

I use my tilt for my $10,000 car audio system. It's the same or a tad better then a cd.

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I use my kaiser with RP-F350 Technics headphones and I can tell You this combo sounds great.
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I use my kaiser for music listening frequently and the sound quality is better than the majority of dedicated music players I've owned before.

I just sent out an order for the adapter today. Thanks for the input everyone, it is much appreciated.

I'm a picky audiophile; I never even considered serious listening on a portable audio player until this year. I evaluated several of the various software music players for Windows Mobile that are capable of playing losslessly compressed audio (FLAC) on my tilt, and found them all lacking. I used a 3.5mm adapter and headphones ranging from crap to UE triple.fi to shure e530 to AKG 701 to Grado GS1000. I was pretty much totally dissatisfied with the results, the sound is tinny, thin, filled with noise, and has very limited dynamic range. I also tried using several portable headphone amps which improved the range, but were still unsatisfying.
I ended up getting the cowon iaudio7 which just plain blows away any other portable player I've heard. While it still can't compare to a decent home system, paired with a portable headphone amp, it's actually a very decent sounding portable audio solution.

Thanks for the input man. Yeah, I am quite the audiophile too, I have a zune for the storage capacity alone, but I use my cowon D2 when i really want to listen to music, it has amazing sound quality. I just am tired of hauling around alot of devices and just wanted to see what people thought of the sound quality.
But again, thanks for everyone's input, I will post my thoughts when my order gets in

Tilt: Crappy Sound
I think the Tilt sound is the worst I've ever heard... I tried different players, earphones and also Btooth headset...but I can't make it sound properly.
I'll appreciate any advice.
Thanks in advance

macdo said:
I think the Tilt sound is the worst I've ever heard... I tried different players, earphones and also Btooth headset...but I can't make it sound properly.
I'll appreciate any advice.
Thanks in advance
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I listen to hour long mixes of electronic dance music (minimal house, tribal, tech-house) that tends to get distorted or muddy because of the amount of layers and bass oriented sound. When I listen to music on my Tilt individual sounds come out defined and the bass is really smooth. I mainly use the Technics RPDH1200 for when I want listen to music at home, and the Shure SE310 for when Im on the go. Have you tried using wired headphones?

i use Sennheiser's CX300 with the HTC Audio Player and the sound is very good. The only requirement is that you need to play around with the Audio Booster settings to select the correct equalizer settings for the music you're listening to to.

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I'm a picky audiophile; I never even considered serious listening on a portable audio player until this year. I evaluated several of the various software music players for Windows Mobile that are capable of playing losslessly compressed audio (FLAC) on my tilt, and found them all lacking. I used a 3.5mm adapter and headphones ranging from crap to UE triple.fi to shure e530 to AKG 701 to Grado GS1000. I was pretty much totally dissatisfied with the results, the sound is tinny, thin, filled with noise, and has very limited dynamic range. I also tried using several portable headphone amps which improved the range, but were still unsatisfying.
I ended up getting the cowon iaudio7 which just plain blows away any other portable player I've heard. While it still can't compare to a decent home system, paired with a portable headphone amp, it's actually a very decent sounding portable audio solution.
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I've read some reviews on cowom products and they seem quite good. I bought an 80gb iPod simply because i had a lot of music purchased from the iTunes store and i wanted space. My music libary is about 8000 songs so i need a lot of storage. I might consider getting a cowon if i could find one with decent storage space, that's my priority right below that is audio qaulity. If anyone could recommend a good player with great space and good qaulity, i'd love to check it out.

Honestly, I know some people may hate the Zune, but if I had to choose again, I would most likely stick with my Zune 80gb but I just sold it because I am tired of lugging around so many gadgets with me. The build quality is amazing, it plays games to pass the time, the sound quality is also top notch and the software is pretty easy to use. Also, they just had a price drop and not to mention, it is pretty slim and the screen is really really crisp.
I kept my Cowon D2 because it is really small. It has a pretty slick touchscreen and has AMAZING sound quality. They have, 2gb, 4gb and 8gb models but they also have SD card slots that can handle any size. So it is expandable. Other than those, if you have questions, I have had many mp3 players and if you have any in mind I can give my opinion. Good luck.

RubberDucky451 said:
I might consider getting a cowon if i could find one with decent storage space, that's my priority right below that is audio qaulity. If anyone could recommend a good player with great space and good qaulity, i'd love to check it out.
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Cowon makes players with up to 60Gb of space. But I'd say that if you are using a lossy compressed format, the player is not really going to help much so you may as well just stick with the ipod. Data loss during compression is probably going to have a much bigger impact than the sound quality of the different players out there. A better sounding player often enhances flaws in the source.
On a positive note, it is likely that very soon players will come out that have enough space to hold all of your music uncompressed (or at least losslessly compressed). My difficulty was finding one that sounds good and can play the lossless formats that I use (FLAC).

My biggest complaint with playing music on the Tilt is the stupid 'glitch' or skup that occurs ever 2-3 minutes. I think this would be a deal breaker for you.
I know this was well documented in other threads, did any resolution ever become of it? I recently flashed from the stock ATT ROM to a cooked 6.1 Rom so I'm waiting to see if that makes a difference.

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Audio quality through headphones?

As my Galaxy S got stolen a few days ago, I'm looking for a new phone and 2X seems like the best option right now. Only thing that concerns me is that some reviews mention not so good audio quality through headphones.
I tend to use my phone as an mp3 player quite a lot and I use good headphones with them, so here's a question for you, kind 2X owners - how does it cope as an mp3 player? I'm no audiophile but I aint deaf either, I was satisfied with Galaxy S' audio quality and would prefer not to go lower. Thanks in advance for any info.
I am not sure about sgs, but it definitely lose comparing my old sony erisson w810
when the wires bumping to your chest, you will listen the noise in ur earphone too. I would give my old w810 9/10, and this phone 4/10.
I would say it definitely depends on the earplugs..
Have to say that with my Sennheiser in-ears i cannot complain.. Haven't done a side by side comparison with a different phone yet.. so If i will, I'll let you know!
Sorry for your loss of sgs. You will not regret the O2X i would say!
Mine is spot on as a music player. The 2x and the Desire I had are more or less the same in the headphones I have. I am not sure how they compare when you enter in the supplied headphones into the test.
Tested with high-end earphones (Westone UM2). It sounds ok but I wouldn't use my 2x as my main music player.
Sound level is a little on the weak side and slightly tame bass levels on my Sennheiser HD 565 headphones. On the plus side, very clean sounding audio. I think a set of headphones/earphones with high sensitivity rating should produce decent audio, or something with high bass reproduction for bassheads.
Might be worth looking at PowerAMP too. It improved audio quality on my Hero no end.
Sound quality is very good except for crosstalk which is awful. That makes the sound quality very average:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x-review-564p8.php
It's like 10 times better than my old Windows Mobile HTC Touch HD
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I'm no audiophile but I aint deaf either, I was satisfied with Galaxy S' audio quality and would prefer not to go lower.
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Just read from LG Optimus 2x service manual that it uses the same Wolfson audio chipset (wm8994) as Samsung Galaxy S. So, in theory, both phones should be similar sounding when using the same earphones. Or, at least, LG 2x audio should not be much degraded from your old Galaxy S - if at all.
Rooted galaxy s has the vodoo sound option which really enhances audio quality
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Hi,
I as well use the phone as my main mp3 player. Before I had a iPod Touch, a HTC Desire and now the LGOS. And what shall I say: The LGOS is the best beneath them.
Maybe it's also important to say that I never even unpack those earphones coming with the devices. I never had a decent earphone coming with these devices.
I used Sure earphones (the middleclass ones - which are quite expensive already, I bought them for about 150€) but now switched to Phonak by Audeo (a Swiss company) which really deliver amazing sound.
Thanks for the input guys, I just placed an order : ) Voodoo sound on Galaxy S was great indeed, hope someone creates an equivalent for 2X in the future.
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
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I was actually surprised how good they are!
(For supplied earbuds)
withoutwings said:
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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God, I hate those that were supplied by HTC. They were bloody horrible. Much prefer the LG ones (I left my half decent ones at my sisters house...).
Just as a side note: PowerAMP runs beatifully on this phone.
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The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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I have use both the one that came with the device and one which came with my htc wildfire and on both i can press the button 2x to go to the next song, so it should work. Or does your headset have 2 separate buttons?
2x uses the same headphone socket layout as iphone which differs from the galaxy S
I personnaly found that audio isn't a great part on Optimus 2x. I tried the earbuds, they are not bad but not really great ... And they doesn't fit my ear, I mean they doesn't isolate sound correctly or usually I never change the size of the foams ;-)
Meanwhile, I noticed that level sound isn't very high. Same for you ? (Maybe that was my divx file, need to verify that)
why can't i hear anything out of my headphones... ahhhh

Logitech Boombox Speaker review

Here's a review I just finished for Logitech's Boombox Speakers for anyone looking for a set of bluetooth speakers for their Nexus 7
http://www.nexus7uk.com/logitech-wireless-boombox-review/
ooh i can use this as a stereo system in the bedroom and use N7 as a "remote".
wonder how much it costs in Canada...
my 2¢
Just to add on here
In the posted review he says the boom box has 8 drivers... it only has 4... two woofers and two tweeters mounted front facing
The remaining 4 are unpowered passive radiators that aid the woofers in achieving a bigger box sound.
Three very distinct volume levels:
Plugged in (max power... very loud)
Charged battery (less power... very noticeable difference)
Low battery (bummer unless your in a quiet room)
I've had this boom box for about a year now and it is the bomb... if you position it right ... on a bookshelf or boxed in area in a corner etc... the bass response is completely unbelievable for a device this size... I find I absolutely have to use an eq app to get the decent tweeter sound that I like or it sounds dull with the nexus 7 stock audio... the Volume+ app is the best for making the Logitech sound incredible.
We go to the park and there's a pavilion with a cooking area so I stick it up on the boxed in shelf area and I have a motorcycle sized sealed battery with an adapter to plug into the boom box for full 20 watts of volume... I CONSTANTLY have to prove to people that that little box is the only thing producing the sound... no hidden subwoofer... no secret speakers... it really is amazing in the right situations
Good review.
I lso have this speaker for months now which I use with my desire hd for music and my computer at times. One thing worth mentioning is when you use it to watch videos, there is a lag between the video and the sound. So thos is only good for listening to music umless if there is an app that can delay the video or sync the audio and video, but I havemt dound one yet.
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the above scenario is when I'm using bluetooth, but when connected via 3.5mm jack, it's ok...
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Good review.
I lso have this speaker for months now which I use with my desire hd for music and my computer at times. One thing worth mentioning is when you use it to watch videos, there is a lag between the video and the sound. So thos is only good for listening to music umless if there is an app that can delay the video or sync the audio and video, but I havemt dound one yet.
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Strange... I don't have that problem at all... and all I do is video on my 7... I don't even have any music files only music video
Seems synced up just fine on mine
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Strange... I don't have that problem at all... and all I do is video on my 7... I don't even have any music files only music video
Seems synced up just fine on mine
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that's only when connected via bluetooth, but with 3.5mm jack, no sync issues.
are you connected via bluetooth?
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that's only when connected via bluetooth, but with 3.5mm jack, no sync issues.
are you connected via bluetooth?
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I use a different bluetooth speaker but I also saw the sound out of sync with the standard video player. When I swapped to MX Player pro the problem went away. You may want to try a couple of different video players to see if any solve the problem.
b00mb00mchuck said:
Just to add on here
In the posted review he says the boom box has 8 drivers... it only has 4... two woofers and two tweeters mounted front facing
The remaining 4 are unpowered passive radiators that aid the woofers in achieving a bigger box sound.
Three very distinct volume levels:
Plugged in (max power... very loud)
Charged battery (less power... very noticeable difference)
Low battery (bummer unless your in a quiet room)
I've had this boom box for about a year now and it is the bomb... if you position it right ... on a bookshelf or boxed in area in a corner etc... the bass response is completely unbelievable for a device this size... I find I absolutely have to use an eq app to get the decent tweeter sound I like or it sounds dull with the nexus 7 stock audio... the volume+ app is the best for making the Logitech sound incredible.
We go to the park and there's a pavilion with a cooking area so I stick it up on the boxed in shelf area and I have a motorcycle sized sealed battery with an adapter to plug into the boom box for full 20 watts of volume... I CONSTANTLY have to prove to people that that little box is the only thing producing the sound... no hidden subwoofer... no secret speakers... it really is amazing in the right situations
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b00mb00mchuck - Thankyou for the extra information, I will update my review,
Also i didn't mention but others have reported higher quality sounds connecting with the 3.5mm jack due to better bandwidth
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I use a different bluetooth speaker but I also saw the sound out of sync with the standard video player. When I swapped to MX Player pro the problem went away. You may want to try a couple of different video players to see if any solve the problem.
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Thanks, I have tried MXPlayer and there is still a bit of lag.
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Thanks, I have tried MXPlayer and there is still a bit of lag.
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That's what I'm using... MXPlayer and Bluetooth... no lag whatsoever
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b00mb00mchuck - Thankyou for the extra information, I will update my review,
Also i didn't mention but others have reported higher quality sounds connecting with the 3.5mm jack due to better bandwidth
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That's true on the 3.5mm jack... but it kills the whole advantage of having that cool Bluetooth factor...
Nice to have the options on there to work it the way that satisfies the user... great product
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Yes, the big criticism of BT music streaming is the sound quality, I understand these things aren't for audiophiles! What are your thoughts on the quality? Do you notice any artefacts / distortion that you wouldn't expect (I guess it depends on the quality of your digital source)?
I hooked my N7 up to my iPod dock which also allows BT streaming and have to say it sounded OK to me - but the dock is hardly anything special, just a hundred quid bog standard sound system and CDs don't sound all that (when compared to the HiFi).
I have purchased a BT to HiFi adapted (also by logitech) for the living room system so look forward to hearing what it sounds like through a 'proper' amp / speakers. Given that I'll be playing MP3s over BT I'm pretty confident it won't be CD quality, but I'm not too fussy! Mostly I'm playing kids music in the hope it keeps my toddle amused for 2 seconds or I'm playing streamed radio which has already gone round the houses in terms of compression so one doesn't expect HiFi quality.
Will report back on my own experiences when my new box of tricks turns up.
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I think depends how used to listening to high quality music,
For myself, no problems other than what already posted in my review.
Maybe you can report back with how good the bt adapter was with your hi fi as I'm interested to know
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Bluetooth interrupt web radio
I have Logitech boombox for 2 days and it really is amazing, but on SGS3 they interrupt web radio
I have a Logitech "Mini Boombox" that works nice in the office. Hooks up via bluetooth to the Nexus 7.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Boom...8&qid=1353034414&sr=8-1&keywords=mini+boombox
I think I may be purchasing the boombox you reviewed as well. It sounds like a nice addition to my gadget collection.
The Logitech mini boom box is on offer at £40 from tesco direct in the UK.
Yeah just found that mate, Im going to invest in one of those!
Happy new year all!
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Yeah just found that mate, Im going to invest in one of those!
Happy new year all!
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Happy new year Adam hope you had a good one.
Like your nexus blog BTW
Jon
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I thought about this for a while too but I decided to get a bluetooth adapter for my existing sound receiver / speaker system and it sounds beautiful
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The Logitech mini boom box is on offer at £40 from tesco direct in the UK.
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The mini one is awesome.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 2 N7100 Stock Ear Plugs

Hey Guys I am new to this forum and found a lot of many interesting facts about the Samsung galaxy note 2 and I am not a kind of person who would like to Root my device may be because I am not sure on how it’s done or don’t want to take risk or because till now i did not understand the exact reason for rooting if someone could volunteer and explain it in a lay man language note in Technical language that would be highly appreciated and I previously owned the Gigantic Master Piece Samsung galaxy Note and was very satisfied just got it upgraded week back an seriously made the right decision to go for this as i was in a huge confusion to go for Lumia 920 0r SG NOTE 2, Well what embarrassed me was the Stock Ear phones its really Suc*s as I am not happy at all earlier also the Note had the same Specs ear plugs , i wish Samsung should improve the quality of ear phones and get some better quality headphones Out of the box ,and also noticed all the specs and reviews i have come across nobody has done review on ear plugs that come in the box, Now I am planning to purchase a good quality ear phones could some 1 suggest the best ear plugs not headphones.
Regard's
A Khan
For the money I love me some SkullCandy Ear Buds. I have a couple pair of them from TJ Maxx for $6.99 each. Just in case I lose them or if one breaks.
The sound quality, to me, is excellent. For ear buds it does produce a nice clean bass tone and nice rich highs.
They come in different styles but just try out some of the cheap ones, like I did, and you just can imagine how much better the more 'expensive' ones will sound.
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For the money I love me some SkullCandy Ear Buds. I have a couple pair of them from TJ Maxx for $6.99 each. Just in case I lose them or if one breaks.
The sound quality, to me, is excellent. For ear buds it does produce a nice clean bass tone and nice rich highs.
They come in different styles but just try out some of the cheap ones, like I did, and you just can imagine how much better the more 'expensive' ones will sound.
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Thanks for your response i've found this on the forum which has saved my few bucks Noozxoide EIZO-rewire™ PRO
i dont know about anyone here but my only real complaint (and its not even really a complaint) is the Note 2 stock music settings... or the overall playback of music... its horrible lol whether im listening through headphones, aux cable for , external speaker. the settings are really distorted.
Beats audio made things worse so i deleted it.
ive tried apollo player, stock player, mx player. switched settings around and nothing everything sounds distorted. EVEN WITH STWEAKS...
i dont know why anyone would want to listen to music on the note, but hey maybe its just me ...
But in any case
i have tried a few earphones with this and all same results lol
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i dont know about anyone here but my only real complaint (and its not even really a complaint) is the Note 2 stock music settings... or the overall playback of music... its horrible lol whether im listening through headphones, aux cable for , external speaker. the settings are really distorted.
Beats audio made things worse so i deleted it.
ive tried apollo player, stock player, mx player. switched settings around and nothing everything sounds distorted. EVEN WITH STWEAKS...
i dont know why anyone would want to listen to music on the note, but hey maybe its just me ...
But in any case
i have tried a few earphones with this and all same results lol
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Hi May be you should give a try with this Noozxoide EIZO-rewire™ PRO
thenuke1 said:
i dont know about anyone here but my only real complaint (and its not even really a complaint) is the Note 2 stock music settings... or the overall playback of music... its horrible lol whether im listening through headphones, aux cable for , external speaker. the settings are really distorted.
Beats audio made things worse so i deleted it.
ive tried apollo player, stock player, mx player. switched settings around and nothing everything sounds distorted. EVEN WITH STWEAKS...
i dont know why anyone would want to listen to music on the note, but hey maybe its just me ...
But in any case
i have tried a few earphones with this and all same results lol
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I haven't noticed any distortion with my Bose in ear headphones, but I did have to play with the settings a lot to get the sound right. I just downloaded a trial for PowerAmp and played with it for a few minutes and it sounded really good. The stock setup from Samsung is terribly quiet STweaks helped with that. I saw that PeanutButta Jelly kernel has support for Voodoo Sound which I used before and was quiet impressed with.
I'm still stock and I agree about the quietness of the output for sound. Coming from a device that supported Beats and DSP Manager is really disappointing on this high end device. Still love this beast.
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I tried different pair of ear plugs which are the Nokia Lumia and they sound very well when played on My blackberry and Nokia Lumia when same connected to SG N2 they sound very low I believe the output itself is bad Samsung need to improved there quality interns of Media .
I use Google Play Music with these settings and it sounds great! Try them out.
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Sennheiser
Sennheiser IE80 works very well with the Wolfson DAC in Samsung Galaxy Note II. It really complements the already airy soundstage of the Sennheiser.
Beats and Skull Candies are bass-heavy iem that are more suited for hip-hop and techno music.
One more thing i noticed is that the ear phones are not comfortable specially i've ben using the Lumia plugs as i said earlier yesterday i thought of sharing this how cheap the quality or these stock ear plugs are, Last night was watching a Movie while sleeping and and these were so irritating that it was difficult to sleep with them when on ears , so switched to Lumia and they were so comfortable like them.
Guess What i updated the Kernel from Stock to Perseus and its giving amazing output tried Repill also that was also good
Try Frankenbeats on your phones. I really love it especially when using my sony headphones. Nice clear and thumpy bass.
I agree that the stock ear plugs are really a piece of crap. Mine are already damaged with fairly light use over 3 months.
I decided to go ahead and order a bluetooth set. Hopefully they are good.
Tried it and it spoiled my Sound i was Redpill and had to restore it to previous ,
Worst Part is i dint have the Sound effects option under Sound
Its not something shocking ,
Come on Samsung try to get some good quality Earphones ,
We paying almost like 35grand cant we expect you guys to improve the quality of earphones ?
It should not be worst quality at least make average quality
Its been like 1month now n ive hardly used it for 30mins switched to Lumia Headphones. :good:

Audio Quality on Nexus 6?

All I can say is the audio quality through the headphone jack, and speaker on the Note 4 is garbage! That does not make it a bad phone, because with all its other features, the Note 4 is awesome but for an avid audiophile like me, my phone needs a great DAC/ headphone jack. The iphone 6+ Does have fantastic audio quality, but I use android phones as my workhorse, and Ipad as my consumption device, so iPhone is out for me. I am REALLY hoping that since the Nexus 6 has the 2 front facing stereo speakers, that it is being pushed by a strong high quality DAC. I currently have the M8 , and the audio is quite nice, but I have always wanted a nexus device after owning the HTC Nexus 1 , and the Nexus 6 checks all the boxes for me personally. It just has to have great audio and battery life and I'm sold! Hopefully we can get some reviews of the big sexy nexus before pre ordering starts?
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
What headphones are you using?
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What headphones are you using?
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
Schoat333 said:
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
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Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
Edit: I am also hoping the N6 will have a powerful audio chip.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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How do you like the P7's? I bought the P5's years ago but admittedly they don't get much use. I have tried the P7's and while I'm not sure if their sound sig is for me, they were insanely comfortable.
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awareunlikeu said:
Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
feedtheducks said:
I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
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Yeah those UE900's are some mighty fine phones my friend! But yeah I just want superb audio out of the box without tweaking. I know I can get it if I go back to apple for a phone, but I use iPad, so to me having an iPhone with its boring software when I already have an iPad that I use for consumption/work just seems like unnecessary overkill. As I use Android as my workhorse/EDC device. I have the HTC One M8 right now, and its close to what I want, but I don't particularly care for the software, except Blinkfeed, and I loath the camera. Headphone audio is damn good only because it is the loudest phone on the market right now due to the DAC having to push the BoomSound speakers and also pushing that same power to the headphone jack. But louder is not always better. The iphone 6 Plus's audio quality is quite a bit better, but not as loud, or "punchy". I hope its not too much to expect excellent audio quality with the way Googs is going away from the decently priced cutting corners Nexus devices to the absolute best Android has to offer Android device, which is what the N6 is sounding like they are marketing it has.
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If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
"The Nexus 6 comes with a pair of stereo speakers on the front, just like HTC’s phones. And just like the phones from Taiwan, Google’s phablet gives brilliant sound quality. Movies really draw you in with the combination of that huge screen and those crisp speakers And we could fill the whole house with music just with the Nexus 6
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awareunlikeu said:
V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I am a M-100 user as well, hell year brother!
As for audio quality, personally I never use something as spread out as a Cellphone/Smartphone for quality music listening. Most of the time they are not equipped with the proper magic for good audio compared to PMP's and other quality audio sources. That is why I still carry around a PMP for most of my music listening (Better HW for sound, Storage all for Music, Separate battery for Music).
I know it's almost archaic to still have a PMP and a SmartPhone since the latter can technically do both, but if you want the best audio quality it's best to get a PMP for your audiophile needs. I suggest taking a look for this if you are curious for a PMP recommendation: http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000060437344&MenuID=105026016
As for the N6, its up in the air. But I usually would not bet my wallet that it would make a quality music player. It might be good for some music here and there but as a whole with pro cans it just might not be enough to get the most out of them.
To me the original Moto X audio quality through headphones was great. I ordered a Nexus 5 trying to decide which one to keep and ended up sending the Nexus back. One of the reasons was the audio wasn't as good as the X. I HOPE the N6 will be just as good. Motorola hasn't let me down yet.
I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
racerxe24 said:
I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
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I am fairly sure FLAC files are supported by the current version of android. I just flashed a completely stock rom, no root on my N5 and I am able to play FLAC on it using Shuttle+.
Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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+1 for Poweramp
I'm curious how the front speqkers compare to my m8. I love the audio on this phone.
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There are 2 main improvement in android L for sound: low latency and usb-enabled headphones. I'm not an audiophile myself but I guess for startes those two should make a difference.
That being said, unfortunatly, headphones quality output is something hard to tell without specific reviews.
awareunlikeu said:
I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
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Funny you talk about Apple's "audio superiority" when their headphone jacks across iPad, PowerBook/MacBook, iPhone, and iPod lines have been poorly grounded for years.

Question Buds or Wired Earphones

Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
varcor said:
Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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I am only using Buds series for a while as they came free with the S-series in Australia when pre-ordered. Very convenient.
Buds+ you need a set if for nothing other than phone calls. That's all I use on my 10+
Using the c port for audio output all the time is going to screw up cables and maybe the port it's self. Tell Samsung to not jack off
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Curious what users are doing for audio. Wired eaphone options are pretty thin if you're connecting via USB but they provide the range that Bluetooth can't match. I've had mixed results, what's your take?
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1. I use a USB C to 3.5mm convertor and good wired haedphones (with a wider soundstage and instrument separation) for immersive listening at home (usually in the eveing after dinner, before I go to bed). I use the dongle mainly becasue I already have wired headphones that I don't want collecting dust - and I don't want to spend a lot on larger wireless headphones when a relatively cheap adapter can do the same thing for me.
2. Galaxy Buds live for use during the workday for calls and casual music streaming while going running in the morning, or other outdoor activity. Very comfortable for long use, strong reliable connection and good mic quality for phone calls. Easy to carry around without a tangle of wires.
If I did not have a pre-existing collection of earphones, and was given a gun-to-the-head choice of just one device, I'd choose the wireless earbuds over the wired ones, simply because it fits my needs the best. YMMV.
The big Buds+ thread:
Galaxy Buds, Buds+ Set up
Install the Galaxy Wearable and Galaxy Buds software. Update software and Buds firmware, this is important because the old versions sound sucks. Turn on/go to Developer Options in Settings and on the Bluetooth Codec setting toggle on Samsung's...
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I haven't used to Buds Pro so I can't comment on them but their body is a different design from the Buds and Buds+. The Pros may not stay in as well though.
The Buds/Buds+ are identical dimension wise.
The wings and ear pieces are interchangeable between these two models.
They don't fall out, ever. For calls you can put them in loosely and they still stay put. The Buds+ bring longer battery life (very long) and better sound Q than the Buds, I have both.
With respect to audio listening devices I'm compelled more towards sound quality than convenience. Buds are developing as the market grows with improved acoustic profiles and software integration for codecs. They also provide a higher flexibility for physical variations like exercise and two way communications.
The biggest drawbacks are the diminished range of audio signals, reliance on the Bluetooth subsystems and charging metrics. In my youth and midlife I spent years in a variety of bands. Rock, alternative, blues, techno and even country. Lots of nights preforming live gigs and even more time in studio sessions. As a result my listening skills are pretty well developed.
Not a big believer in high priced units knowing a $50 set can put a pair of $300 sennheisers to shame. When I surrendered my S10 Plus to my wife I started researching wired units with USB Type C Connectors. Dongles while useful for retaining a good 3.5 jack unit are just another link in the chain so I've dismissed them.
What I've found is there isn't much to chose from, just a handful. Much to my dismay 1MORE Quad Driver, which offers pristine audio quality have yet to expand beyond it's 3.5 jack. So I settled on the next best option which had to deliver a solid bottom and midranges, which most units lack, they're too tinny and treble focused.
In the interim I found a decent set of Samsung/AKG Type C noise cancelling earphones. They no longer manufacture them but a few sellers in South Korea still stock the item. Not expensive at $70 USD and the sound quality is a solid 8 on a scale to 10. Strong response in all ranges and very comfortable in my ears, YMMV. Another plus is the noise cancelling doesn't sap a lot of power which can lead to reduced volume. In conjunction with Poweramp and some solid tunes, life is good!
varcor said:
With respect to audio listening devices I'm compelled more towards sound quality than convince. Buds are improving as the market grows with improved acoustic profiles and software integration for codecs. They also provide a higher flexibility for physical variations like exercise and two way communications.
The biggest drawbacks are the diminished range of audio signals, reliance on the Bluetooth subsystems and charging metrics. In my youth and midlife I spent years in a variety of bands. Rock, alternative, blues, techno and even country. Lots of nights preforming live gigs and even more time in studio sessions. As a result my listening skills are pretty well developed.
Not a big believer in high priced units knowing a $50 set can put a pair of $300 sennheisers to shame. When I surrendered my S10 Plus to my wife I started researching wired units with USB Type C Connectors. Dongles while useful for retaining a good 3.5 jack unit are just another link in the chain so I've dismissed them.
What I've found is there isn't much to chose from, just a handful. Much to my dismay 1MORE Quad Driver, which offers pristine audio quality have yet to expand beyond it's 3.5 jack. So I settled on the next best option which had to deliver a solid bottom and midranges, which most units lack, they're too tinny and treble focused.
In the interim I found a decent set of Samsung/AKG Type C noise cancelling earphones. They no longer manufacture them but a few sellers in South Korea still stock the item. Not expensive at $70 USD and the sound quality is a solid 8 on a scale to 10. Strong response in all ranges and very comfortable in my ears, YMMV. Used in conjunction with Poweramp and some solid tunes, life is good!
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Poweramp... whatever earphones or buds you use, use Poweramp to dial them in. I would hate my Buds without it for listening to music.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none.
Poweramp has a steep learning curve but is extremely configurable. Applicable only if you have a music database.
blackhawk said:
Poweramp... whatever earphones or buds you use, use Poweramp to dial them in. I would hate my Buds without it for listening to music.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none.
Poweramp has a steep learning curve but is extremely configurable. Applicable only if you have a music database.
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One badass feature Poweramp has which other platforms lack is the preamp slider which actuates as a great gain function, it's versatility second to none.
Guys aren't you a little concerned about the safety of the TrueWireless (TW) buds? I mean, the fact that they have a direct wireless connection passing directly trough your brain, doesn't feels a bit weird.. Something about it seems fishy to me when I think of limiting radiation exposure.
I use Bluetooth headphones where the BT receiver is under my neck. The cable is separately connected to the KZ ZS6 which have 4 speakers in each headphone. The sound is out of this world.
Most buds employ direct wireless connectivity. Does the BT signal cause damage to the brain? Ask an ENT Specialist but the buds don't transmit BT, they recieve it. Excess volume is the number one harmful side effect in near tympanic audio signals. My question is if you're going to use a wired connection in your BT configuration, why not use wired earphones? The audio quality is superior and you won't need to worry about BT scrambling your brain.
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Most buds employ direct wireless connectivity. Does the BT signal cause damage to the brain? Ask an ENT Specialist but the buds don't transmit BT, they recieve it. Excess volume is the number one harmful side effect in near tympanic audio signals. My question is if you're going to use a wired connection in your BT configuration, why not use wired earphones? The audio quality is superior and you won't need to worry about BT scrambling your brain.
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Well actually the wired vs wireless quality is not something to even discuss. The above headphones I mentioned, eat any other headphones I have ever tried for breakfast when it comes to quality.
The buds do receive and emit BT and it is happening right next your ears. The bigger issue I mean is that the 2 TW headphones are directly communicating with each other trough some sort of electromagnetic connection that I had never heard of until I googled "how do True Wireless headphones work." That direct connection is not BT and it is emitting and receiving at the same time, directly trough your brain... You feel me?
No one is talking about that and no one is assuring us it is safe. It is almost as if it is magic and no one should be even thinking of it.
The BT headphones with a cable that I showed above, have their BT antenna in the little black thingy you see on the pic, it is usually hanging under my neck, which is at least 20+cm from my brain.
I am aware we cannot fully escape radiation but we could at least try to limit the artificial type a little bit when we can. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah the massive amounts EM radiation that Nicola Tesla subjected himself to killed him at the early age of 86
If a little low energy EM is all it takes to TKO today's whatevers... good luck with the hard stuff.
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Well actually the wired vs wireless quality is not something to even discuss. The above headphones I mentioned, eat any other headphones I have ever tried for breakfast when it comes to quality.
The buds do receive and emit BT and it is happening right next your ears. The bigger issue I mean is that the 2 TW headphones are directly communicating with each other trough some sort of electromagnetic connection that I had never heard of until I googled "how do True Wireless headphones work." That direct connection is not BT and it is emitting and receiving at the same time, directly trough your brain... You feel me?
No one is talking about that and no one is assuring us it is safe. It is almost as if it is magic and no one should be even thinking of it.
The BT headphones with a cable that I showed above, have their BT antenna in the little black thingy you see on the pic, it is usually hanging under my neck, which is at least 20+cm from my brain.
I am aware we cannot fully escape radiation but we could at least try to limit the artificial type a little bit when we can. Just my 2 cents.
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Near Field Magnetic Induction (NFMI) is the wave you're concerned with, not the BT wave. It's been around a lot longer than BT, first used in hearing aids decades ago. Can't say if it's harmful but I'm sure studies have been done. You really like your setup, whatever works for you but I won't agree sound quality is capable of matching a good wired set. BT doesn't have the range wired sets offer, regardless of how you tweak the codecs, the conductivity is inherently deficient.
I have a pair of Shure se846 earbuds that I connect via the Shure USB/DAC cable and it sounds absolutely fabulous when listening to anything CD quality and above. For convenience sake however, I use the Sony WF 1000XM4s and they sound really just as good. Especially with the LDAC codec.
chetly968 said:
I have a pair of Shure se846 earbuds that I connect via the Shure USB/DAC cable and it sounds absolutely fabulous when listening to anything CD quality and above. For convenience sake however, I use the Sony WF 1000XM4s and they sound really just as good. Especially with the LDAC codec.
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
varcor said:
The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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You got LDAC and SSC. Get the Buds+ and be happy. I'm using them right now, been using them for the last couple hours... their battery life is really long and they sound good. They link up seamlessly with a Samsung phone. Samsung actually got it near perfect... finally
Or jump ship to the newest Sony with the codecs you want plus a 3.5 mm jack.
Given a choice I'll take a vinyl over a cd or anything digital every day of the week. Why, because it's direct sound, BT just gets in the way. The Samsung/AKG ANC's are dirt cheap with great response throughout the entire range.
Was listening to some old tunes, The Best of Simple Minds. What separates them from others is their dynamic composition and arrangement. As a musician when I listen to a song, I feel the song as a whole, but I'm paying much closer attention to each of the individual instruments. When you can hear the sound of the guitar pick hitting strings, not the reverberation of strings, the click of the pick, your know your audio signal is tight.
When I upgrade it's going to be wired with 4 drivers, likely the 1More Quad Driver, may have to deal with a dongle. There's virtually zero overlap of frequencies. Put that set in your ears and you'll throw rocks at any BT device on the planet.
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The biggest problem with S21 Ultra Codecs is they squashed aptX Adaptive, aptX Low Latency and aptX HD even though the Snap 888 SoC supports it. The reason, they're pushing their own Scalable Codec, Galaxy Buds and they don't want to pay Qualcomm's licensing fees. The aptX Codec available on the device is an older, vanilla version, not much different than SBC. Cheap bastards!
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Yeah, I totally agree there. Don't know why they did this but at least I can use LDAC and it sounds even better than aptX
Buds+ is mandatory for a Samsung phone if for nothing other than calls. Music sounds pretty good using SSC.
Now the real bad news...
No sealed system can faithfully reproduce the sound stage. You must have a minimum of 2 stereo open air speakers*. The stereo (or more) acoustic waves need open air to interact with one another to reproduce the sound stage. This is what creates the electronically coupled sound stage ie where it was recorded to your listening area.
Headsets and earbuds destroy the sound stage.
Even DTS and Dolby headphone solutions don't come close to the complex sound stage an open air system reproduces.
Read it and weep ( you will when you hear the difference).
*minimum 12 - 50,000+ hz frequency response for optimum sound stage

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