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so whats the difference animated weather?
what are the pros and cons of using either?
or are they really just the same?
let the flames begin
I searched touchflo2d vs 3d and couldnt find any info
so sorry in advanced if it was already covered else where.
hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape
More importantly right now, with M3d you can't put your phone into standby while it's running. And on my phone it ran like a dog!
guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers
kaiserII101 said:
hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape
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ah
my 1st attempt at getting tf3d to install on my stock rom was a failer it just kept looping loading touch here to load and would freeze up and never load. I did a hardreset and I got 2d to load.
so with t3d it needs to be installed on top of a cooked rom it wont run on a stock 6.1 rom?
can you get both options to show up under home options or is it 1 or the other. I like play with my apps and switch back and forth till I decide which one works best for me being able install both would ber great less trouble hardrestting each time I wqant to compare.
thanks for replying
you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.
I use L26 TF3D Rom V4 and even though it is a little annoying to have to kill (turn off) Manilla everytime you want to put your phone to sleep, it is a great rom. My question is this. What is the difference between Manilla and Throttle? I tried searching but perhaps I did not search correctly. Thanks everyone.
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you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.
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Ah thanks I thought I followed all the instructions in your t3d thread correctly.
I just got my tilt so will wait a few weeks (atleast till the 90 warranty runs out) before I start flashing cooked roms to it. Im using a ported blackstone m2d rom on my wizard and refuse to use the old htchome screen on my new phone
thanks for the help I would have spet the next few days trying to get t3d to work on my factory rom.
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guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers
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Ooh - no. That thread must have started about a week after I last tried TF3D and I missed it! I'll have to give it another try now.... (damn you )
I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.
1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had
gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time
achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.
Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.
I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
Bxsteez said:
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
Amplificator said:
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.
I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.
I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone
As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.
basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)
I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!
You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.
hi buddy,
could anyone kindly share rhodium 1.19 in a cab format or give me a link? I had searched in the forum but couldnot find it.
only this one can show Chinese contacts within manila in right alphabetic order.
thanks.
anybody kindly help？
smallord said:
anybody kindly help？
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a OEM is about 200MB...u wan a cab that is 200MB???? do u realize how long it will take???? and then how slow ur system will become????
there are CHT roms here. and vedio tutorial on how to hardSPL and flash.....use them.
agent_47 said:
a OEM is about 200MB...u wan a cab that is 200MB???? do u realize how long it will take???? and then how slow ur system will become????
there are CHT roms here. and vedio tutorial on how to hardSPL and flash.....use them.
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thanks for your reply. I think I was not making myself clear...
I mean the cab of TF3D in rhodium 1.19, should be a few m in size...
forget CHT rom, it has problem with simplified Chinese imput and the Traditional Chinese terms seem strange to CHS users. I prefer English rom.
to be frank, I am using your rom of 1.7 version. it's quick and stable, but I dislike the TF3D changes you made. (I like the original one), so I am trying to find one and replace the changes...
I am sorry that my words may offend you. I know you spend a lot of time and energy on this, and I really appreciate that. I just want to express myself clear.
A rhodium CAB would take around 50 MB
But it is not just a matter of "making the CAB out of the PACKAGES"
If it were that simple, you should have seen it from a while around here
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BTW I don't like Manila, I prefer titanium + panels over manila,
just my point of view and personal taste
gtrab said:
A rhodium CAB would take around 50 MB
But it is not just a matter of "making the CAB out of the PACKAGES"
If it were that simple, you should have seen it from a while around here
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BTW I don't like Manila, I prefer titanium + panels over manila,
just my point of view and personal taste
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Thanks. Got you.
Manila or Titanium are somewhat the same to me, though Manila is more familiar, for I used Diamond for a while and then X1, while at the same time used itje's roms for quite a long time... haha...he is Manila master.
Another one in Manila that I miss most is the weather tab. Try many different applications, no match.
so when I use wm6.5 rom, I would definitely install Manila too...
smallord said:
thanks for your reply. I think I was not making myself clear...
I mean the cab of TF3D in rhodium 1.19, should be a few m in size...
forget CHT rom, it has problem with simplified Chinese imput and the Traditional Chinese terms seem strange to CHS users. I prefer English rom.
to be frank, I am using your rom of 1.7 version. it's quick and stable, but I dislike the TF3D changes you made. (I like the original one), so I am trying to find one and replace the changes...
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its just a skin n some may not like it.....but hey....i posted a default background , highlights, slider .. everything that i changed!!!!!!
search that thread.... page one will have most of ur answers regarding TF3D changes
agent_47 said:
its just a skin n some may not like it.....but hey....i posted a default background , highlights, slider .. everything that i changed!!!!!!
search that thread.... page one will have most of ur answers regarding TF3D changes
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oh, that's great. thanks
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its just a skin n some may not like it.....but hey....i posted a default background , highlights, slider .. everything that i changed!!!!!!
search that thread.... page one will have most of ur answers regarding TF3D changes
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agent_47 said:
TWEAKS
-using the default background for manilla speeds up its performance making it faster than pre-final. dump these files in win dir for the speed bump>>>default bg.zip
-to gain more speed. go back to blue highlights and default bg>>>valkyrie v1.x speedboost.cab (this is for v1.1 & v1.2 only)
- blueside_valkyrie theme new
- default startmenu with 3 column >>>> StartMenu_default portrait.zip(might improve startmenu scroll performance\more figure friendly)
- HTC menu
- Figure suit
- test rhodium d3d driver
- voicecomand on over headset & fish panel
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you mean this? I tried to dump these four files to windows dir with resco explorer, but seems no changes happen?
Arrrgghhh I am having nothing but a complete nightmare trying to skin my Kaiser. Having spent two days at it I have had to hard reset and sprite restore my phone over 6 times and I am getting really fed up with it.
I am used a cooked ROM with Manilla 2D already on it, it's Hyperdragon IV Iolite ROM (6.1)
I follow the instructions to the letter but all that results is after applying the skin I am stuck with no TouchFLO. I tap on it to launch but nothing happens and I am stuck with a kaiser that has no TouchFLO. I haved tried loads of different themes, be it in cab form or copying the ZIP folder contents directly to the windows directory and the end result is always the same, a useless TouchFLO disabled 6.1 device. Even using M2DC to restore the default backup theme doesn't work.
Any suggestions, I am getting really fed up with this.
Hard Reset?
Or try to install another Theme to see if you can get it to work again.
Btw. You don't have Operator or Myfaves, cause the don't work.
I've hard reset it 6 times. I've had to do this as I had no way to recover the M2D even after trying to use the back up. Not sure what Operator or Myfaves are but I don't have them.
creed said:
I've hard reset it 6 times. I've had to do this as I had no way to recover the M2D even after trying to use the back up. Not sure what Operator or Myfaves are but I don't have them.
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Thats because if you try and enable either of those two plugins, it will break touchflo, also you are trying to use an Iolite manilla so you need a skin for Iolite manilla, most skins are for the standard manilla 2d and may not work if used on the Iolite manilla, this may be why manilla is breaking and refusing to start!
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Thats because if you try and enable either of those two plugins, it will break touchflo, also you are trying to use an Iolite manilla so you need a skin for Iolite manilla, most skins are for the standard manilla 2d and may not work if used on the Iolite manilla, this may be why manilla is breaking and refusing to start!
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Ahh! This makes sense now! Thanks alot. Now I will try and find some Iolite manilla skins.
Searching appears to have failed me, but I'm looking for a up to date, optimized (recent drivers etc), Manila/Sense LACKING 6.1 ROM for the Xperia.
Could anyone provide some guidance with that? I can't really find any
EDIT: To clarify, thats a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM without manila or sense UI
Maybe you should look at the forum? Searching specific terms won't give any good results back.. These roms basically plague the forum, i dont know how you could not find ANY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568918
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588882
And that's just the first page
6.1, not 6.5 I'm aware of the huge amounts of 6.5 ROMs
Bad grammar is bad
Even if there's manila/sense, you dont have to enable them.. no different tbh
check here
Touch-IT v16 with winmo 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575329
List of stock roms with link somewhere http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
Hi,
I can maybe try to cook something like that for you... you want other apps included (youtube, facebook, etc.) or totally clean?
Do you want X1 panel manager installed? Any X1 panels?
Will post a link here if I get it cooked...
-Oobly
the stock roms aren't too bad, but i can only think of two 6.1 roms without manilla/ sense;
norti nx1i 1.04
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022
i've used this and can recommend it
bxsteez lite 1.05
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475083
otherwise, as mentioned it could be worth trying some of the established 6.1 touchflo roms and just disable touchflo. 'pctech4u' and 'touch x' come to mind. check out the rom library, ther might be more
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
Typako said:
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
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Hey that'd be great
So, here is the dl link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/317757034/Typako_21051_r3a_v1.0_nopanel_WWE_generic.rar
Hope you enjoy it.
As everyone here says, hardspl your device first and flash at your own risk.