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I don't know if this is a general WM question, as I've never had a WM phone before.
From the Home screen I choose 'Messages' then click 'All Messages' - which gives me a standard looking screen with an Inbox of all the people I've sent/received texts from.
If I choose a person, then I get the whole conversation with the person.
How do I delete a part of the conversation without deleting it all.
I've found that if I click on the persons name I get their contact info - if I press 'OK' at this then their message is highlighted. I can then choose 'Menu' then 'delete' which clears that ONE message. Surely there must be an easier way?
Also... I'm currently using the HTC Full Querty keyboard as my chosen input method. I have the T9 on and it works great MOST of the time!!
My only problem is that if I type a word sometimes it will give me another word that I dont want. How do I say no to this choice?!
Eg... I was typing a message to a friend in which I said 'did you get your ass up on the dancefloor'. When I typed 'ass' it imediately pops up with 'assets' and 'association'. If I press Space it choses assets for me. Is there something I can press to just stick with 'ass' without having to take its suggestion? I don't want to turn the T9 off as I find it really good for putting in apostrophes etc - and apart from this problem it works great.
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"Is there something I can press to just stick with 'ass'"
Man i tried my best to think of a witty comment to that - but i'm struggling!
Any how, I don't know either but what I do is press space to complete the word most like the one i want, then go back & edit it. After that, the word comes up automatically when typing the approriate letters.
SMAC
ha ha...
Its happened to me heaps of times, but ass wss the only example I could remember!
My iPhone had a great little X that appeared and let me ignore its suggestions. I wish there was something similar on the Diamond.
p3eps said:
I don't know if this is a general WM question, as I've never had a WM phone before.
From the Home screen I choose 'Messages' then click 'All Messages' - which gives me a standard looking screen with an Inbox of all the people I've sent/received texts from.
If I choose a person, then I get the whole conversation with the person.
How do I delete a part of the conversation without deleting it all.
I've found that if I click on the persons name I get their contact info - if I press 'OK' at this then their message is highlighted. I can then choose 'Menu' then 'delete' which clears that ONE message. Surely there must be an easier way?
Also... I'm currently using the HTC Full Querty keyboard as my chosen input method. I have the T9 on and it works great MOST of the time!!
My only problem is that if I type a word sometimes it will give me another word that I dont want. How do I say no to this choice?!
Eg... I was typing a message to a friend in which I said 'did you get your ass up on the dancefloor'. When I typed 'ass' it imediately pops up with 'assets' and 'association'. If I press Space it choses assets for me. Is there something I can press to just stick with 'ass' without having to take its suggestion? I don't want to turn the T9 off as I find it really good for putting in apostrophes etc - and apart from this problem it works great.
Cheers...
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Cant answer your second part of the question but the bit about deleting one particular conversation??. Im sure today i was able to do it but now ive wiped my messages inbox so cant really check. But im sure if you highlight that part of the conversation u want deleted then go to menu and you should have delete available. Again im pretty sure thats how i did it...deleting them one by one.
Check it and see if it works...like i said im pretty sure thats how i did it...i could be wrong tho.
Use the circular navigation button (press "up") while in the conversation screen, and then you will be able to navigate between individual messages.
Yes I know, I had to hear this from someone else too. Not very intuitive... Annoying when a good delete option is lacking...
There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
you can also move quickly through your contacts on the right side of that screen, goes pretty fast.
Hi after a sync my quick contacts is missing and i cant put it again? I only can put the new contacts and the old whose missing i cant put it again?
Have any of the tweakers put some thought into expanding the maximum number of quick contacts?
you can also move quickly through your contacts on the right side of that screen, goes pretty fast.
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I *was* talking about using the right slider of that screen. The thought of having to look at the faces of my contacts, one at a time, in order to reach the desired one, never even crossed my mind.
Have any of the tweakers put some thought into expanding the maximum number of quick contacts?
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If you are willing to sacrifice just *a little bit* more function, you can simply put your contacts at the "Photos and Videos" tab, then you can browse through an unlimited amount of your friends faces.
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I *was* talking about using the right slider of that screen. The thought of having to look at the faces of my contacts, one at a time, in order to reach the desired one, never even crossed my mind.
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Sorry, misunderstood you then. Maybe assign one of the softbuttons to 'contacts'? I have PI8 assigned to where "phone" was I believe.
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
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I agree too. I think it's just the choice of form over function. I must say that HTC home older versions were better functionally . Just 2 clicks dialing as well. I am also not using them anymore. It's better to use the quickdial feature on the phone instead
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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Still, if you have a small group of people you are in very frequent touch, it is much easier to have them on speed dial.
It's better to use the quickdial feature on the phone instead
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Can you send an SMS using the quickdial ?, after I find the person in quickdial, all I can do is call him...
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Can you send an SMS using the quickdial ?, after I find the person in quickdial, all I can do is call him...
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You can start a new sms and when typing in the To field the first letters of the contact it shows.
i totally agree.
i would love to have contacts, messages and emails to be shown in an ordered list-style like the recently discovered call history. touchflo3d itself is really nice with this sliding-thing but these three tabs are indeed more visual than functional. hope someday someone will discover how to add third-party plugins...a vga-version of icontact integrated would be awesome.
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Well, partly agree with this thread, I agree totally that it isnt the fastest way (for exemple HTC home contacts on my tytn were much quicker)...
But then comes the issue, Is it really QUICK contacts or is it favorite contacts, I have to admit i pretty much like the interface, and navigating on the right side goes quite well...
So no, it isnt the quickest way, but much faster than the standard program, and besides that with a very nice interface..
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There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
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But it looks darnnn nice, specially if you assign cool avatars to your contacts!
hey if u want to quickly call a contact, why go to touchflo3d at all...the fastest, and i mean really fast...method is to press the call button on the phone, and use the T9 dialer to bring up the contact (provided u know the name of the person ur dialing )
this works pretty fast...coming from an HTC touch (elfin), where the dialer lagged a lot, this one is blazing fast!! try it out
and yeah...that quick contacts thingie is purely for cosmetic purposes...useful only for showing off to your friends!
using the dialpad is the only way to use the 'phone'
The thing I hate about 'quick contacts' is how it displays the full name from my contact, instead of using the 'display as' field to get the name.
Oh well, more disappointment from my most disappointing phone ever.
an123 said:
hey if u want to quickly call a contact, why go to touchflo3d at all...the fastest, and i mean really fast...method is to press the call button on the phone, and use the T9 dialer to bring up the contact (provided u know the name of the person ur dialing )
this works pretty fast...coming from an HTC touch (elfin), where the dialer lagged a lot, this one is blazing fast!! try it out
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this is what i do, and for SMS i strt the message click contact and hit the 1st 3 letters of there name. i have removed the quick contacts tab not because its slow but because there is no need for it to be there at all
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Sorry, misunderstood you then. Maybe assign one of the softbuttons to 'contacts'? I have PI8 assigned to where "phone" was I believe.
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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I've the softbuttons mapped to Contacts (left) and Camera (right), so getting to the contacts list is a single click, and then scroll or press the letter on the right column. I think is quite fast.
Quick Contacts is purely for quick access to your 'favourite' contacts, and it serves that function well for me: it is not laggy and provides a quick means of me contacting my top ten or so contacts with my fat thumb to hand. I see no problem with it. with a tap on the contact you can Email, SMS or call them. It's pretty sweet in my estimates.
As for the Diamond being disappointing = each to their own I suppose, but for me it's the best phone I've ever owned lacking only a decent camera and (less importantly) an expansion slot. It also scuffs too easily, but aside from that it does me proud every day and I love the weather and contacts tabs especially.
And quick contacts are not only for calling, but also for choosing which number to call, to geolocalize them, write mail, etc.
But I agree to the fact that when you scroll on the right, HTC should have skipp the transition between pictures... It's way to slow for quick-supposed contact browsing. I figured a way to make things better, just wait until somebody finds out how to program TF3D tabs-plugins.
Hey Folks
I upgraded to the official Hong Kong ROM upgrade on my HTC Diamond & whilst impressed by the speed improvements I have a major bug that annoys the hell out of me & thus hope some genius reading this can help fix the problem
On the home tab using the "phone" icon it then shows recent calls. However the left hand button that used to show "contacts" now shows "video call". I never want to make a video call & contacts is far more useful .... but there is no obvious way to change the function
Hoping someone can help
Chill dude.
This ain't a bug, it's a feature.
Personally, I do find video-call usefull, but ill prefer "send SMS"
Do U really need contacts? You can use the keypad T9 to find the person U want to call easily...
Circle your finger around the middle button and it rips thru contacts!
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On the home tab using the "phone" icon it then shows recent calls. However the left hand button that used to show "contacts" now shows "video call". I never want to make a video call & contacts is far more useful .... but there is no obvious way to change the function
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Use your favorite registry editor to navigate to [HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila] and change the following values:
"HomeLSKPath=addrbook.lnk" 'that's the application you want to use
"HomeLSKText=Contacts" 'that's the text that will be displayed on the left soft key on your Home screen
Do a soft reset.
Now your Left Soft Key will display Contacts, so when you press it, you shoul go directly to your contacts. Enjoy!
I've changed mine to Comm Manager.
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Use your favorite registry editor to navigate to [HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila] and change the following values:
"HomeLSKPath=addrbook.lnk" that's the application you want to use
"HomeLSKText=Contacts"
Now your Left Soft Key will display Contacts, so when you press it, you shoul go directly to your contacts. Enjoy!
I've changed mine to Comm Manager.
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Are those for the phone app or home sceen?
Blazeitup123 said:
Are those for the phone app or home sceen?
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Those are for the home screen (Home tab of Manila TF3D).
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Those are for the home screen (Home tab of Manila TF3D).
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Do you know the keys for the phone app? I bet there are 100 people wanting those. I think that is what kgb-agent is looking for.
Blazeitup123 said:
Do you know the keys for the phone app? I bet there are 100 people wanting those. I think that is what kgb-agent is looking for.
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I don't have a clue how to change softkeys within the phone app, sorry. Looks like I have misread the original post...
Thanks Heretic & others
Yep ... me & 1000 others want to change the key in the phone app
With CT's rom version 4 if I tap Phone soft key on Today screen then tap the little phone icon between the video call and menu softkeys it removes the keypad and leaves me with last call and contacts list...
No ideas anyone .... it is really bugging me
For me i just disabled the phone skin with the Advanced Config tool. It reverts back to the old WM6 design. I still prefer that. Do note that once u do this, the vibration when a call connects is disabled.
Hey KGB-Agent, I have exactly the same problem...and it is bugging me as well! I upgraded my dutch ROM yesterday :-( Another problem I have is that when I look at my contacts the SIM contacts are not displayed, even when I configure this in Advanced Config Tool...HELP! Anyone else an idea how to fix???
Your contacts are opened when your in the phone app, just scroll! why do you want it to open another contacts process when its already there?!? up and down or as i already said circle the middle button with your finger
Hi Blaze,
Circling with my finger in the middle button doesn't work for me. Furthermore, with "Contacts" I could quickly scroll down with the Alphabet on the right to f.e. the letter Z. The way you recommand it takes me ages to get to the "Z"!
I called the HTC helpdesk, they advised me to do a Hard Reset. Of course...that didn't work...:-(
Go to start and choose contacts its the same screen.
I agree the videocall is a bad choice from the makers of this rom.
Most people do not use this kind of calls.
Grtzzz
I have the same issues with the loss of functionality Ries
I cant believe there are not more complaints
I emailed HTC 4 days ago with no answer :<
@kgb-agent: I phoned the helpdesk. They said I had to do a hard-reset!?! I couldn't believe it, but okay, I tried it...and what do you think: I still have the problem! :-( I guess we have to live with it...bad choice from the developers...
same problem
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Two things:
1) why don't people use the smart dialling feature? this is where when in the phone keypad, you just spell out your contact using the alphanumeric keypad (it uses T9 to search) and it displays your search results in real time at the top of the dial pad... MUCH easier than the contacts screen - try it.
2) circling the middle button with your finger does NOT work for me, i have no idea how that is working for you since the diamond is not meant to be able to scroll using that 'wheel' unless you have installed some 3rd party software for it, or its unique to your ROM/region.
***UPDATE: user Kayla has provided a workaround until a predictive dialer is included, press green call button then press mag button, its a QWERTY keyboard search but its still the fastest with 2 button pushes to make your call ***
searched in forums but didnt find an answer to this:
2.1 with htc hero cdma meant you could push the green call button and the dialer would come up. with CM6 now the call log comes up. not helpful.
also, and more importantly, the green button used to bring up your contacts and dialer pad but the dialer pad served to quickly narrow your search for your contact.
meaning if i click the call button i then click the number 6 and the first name that comes up is Michelle followed by Mike etc etc..
now the dialer pad only dials numbers.
to search your contacts i have to push the green button > click on contacts tab > press the menu button > click search contacts > use dialer pad that only shows ONE and half darkly lit results.
?? any ideas?
i am LOVING the removal of my dialer lag i used to have with 2.1.. and i'm loving the speed overall. but this is a deal breaker man. two pushes turned into five just to make a call. also, no way to bind what my green button does?
thanks
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searched in forums but didnt find an answer to this:
2.1 with htc hero cdma meant you could push the green call button and the dialer would come up. with CM6 now the call log comes up. not helpful.
also, and more importantly, the green button used to bring up your contacts and dialer pad but the dialer pad served to quickly narrow your search for your contact.
meaning if i click the call button i then click the number 6 and the first name that comes up is Michelle followed by Mike etc etc..
now the dialer pad only dials numbers.
to search your contacts i have to push the green button > click on contacts tab > press the menu button > click search contacts > use dialer pad that only shows ONE and half darkly lit results.
?? any ideas?
i am LOVING the removal of my dialer lag i used to have with 2.1.. and i'm loving the speed overall. but this is a deal breaker man. two pushes turned into five just to make a call. also, no way to bind what my green button does?
thanks
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Well, I know at least a slightly faster way to search is press the green dialer button, press the Contacts tab, then long press the Menu button and the keyboard pops up where you can search. Still kind of sucks though.
I do miss the predictive dialer but i've learned to deal with it
I use dialer one from the market.
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ironhorse86 said:
searched in forums but didnt find an answer to this:
2.1 with htc hero cdma meant you could push the green call button and the dialer would come up. with CM6 now the call log comes up. not helpful.
also, and more importantly, the green button used to bring up your contacts and dialer pad but the dialer pad served to quickly narrow your search for your contact.
meaning if i click the call button i then click the number 6 and the first name that comes up is Michelle followed by Mike etc etc..
now the dialer pad only dials numbers.
to search your contacts i have to push the green button > click on contacts tab > press the menu button > click search contacts > use dialer pad that only shows ONE and half darkly lit results.
?? any ideas?
i am LOVING the removal of my dialer lag i used to have with 2.1.. and i'm loving the speed overall. but this is a deal breaker man. two pushes turned into five just to make a call. also, no way to bind what my green button does?
thanks
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I believe you can also press the search button and type the name of your contact. Or even better, long press and use the voice dialer to dial the contact directly.
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I believe you can also press the search button and type the name of your contact. Or even better, long press and use the voice dialer to dial the contact directly.
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This is actually what I do. Download Voice Dialer from the market (made by google, only works on froyo), long press the search button and say "Call [insert name here] Mobile." There's a bunch more things you can do with it, watch this video with a ton of stuff you can do with it.
right well these are all useful but they are not a solution.
for example, pushing 5 buttons to make a phone call is a step down from STOCK 2.1
also, using voice talk every time to phone someone is a no go. i can think of many instances where i dont want to announce who i am calling to my wife.
(oh i am faithful dont think that way)
and finally, the search feature includes EVERYTHING not just contacts, so M shows michelle and mike but also MSN and mikes hard lemonade. your rebuttal would be "but you can choose what search looks for" thats right and i actually use it alot.. so i dont want to limit it just to contacts because of the other times i need it and because someone failed at designing a phone to actually be a phone first and foremost.
what i found was a workaround provided by Kayla in the irc hero cdma channel:
click green button then click magnifying class button, and you can search your contacts only using a qwerty keyboard. it aint as fast as the dialer but its a damn improvement down to 2 button pushes!
if anyone else has a better solution please post. thanks!
(oh and dialer one isnt bad, its not themed correctly for 2.2/ cm6 but it aint bad...i might switch idk.)
... I believe your solution there is exactly what wjason said. The "magnifying glass" button IS the search button, and notice he told you to hit the search button. Or long press to dial by voice command. I like it better than finding contacts by t9 dialing, myself.
Obviously I'm just adding fuel to the fire here and not anything helpful....but this is one of the biggest reasons I still stick with Sense. I like its dialer and contacts MUCH better than the AOSP ones.
That's why I thought Ic3Rom was such a genius ROM in my opinion -- the speed and 'bloatlessness' of AOSP but it had the Sense/HTC dialer and contacts built into it. Too bad Mdawg isn't still dev'ing that one.
Sorry, not intending to threadjack. Carry on...
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danaff37 said:
... I believe your solution there is exactly what wjason said. The "magnifying glass" button IS the search button, and notice he told you to hit the search button. Or long press to dial by voice command. I like it better than finding contacts by t9 dialing, myself.
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no thats incorrect. jason only mentioned using the mag button and not green button first then mag button combo. theres a distinction there.
the mag button alone brings up EVERYTHING , its just a plain ol google search. too many results. see my above post about this issue and why its not efficient.
to chromiumleaf:
so that rom is no longer in development? crraaappp.
anyone have any ideas on how to port over his dialer, or ANY sense dialer that is still lag free as the AOSP? my whole reason for rooting and flashing was for the dialer lag.. it was stupid waiting 20 seconds for a call to connect. but now i've lost the efficient method of calling people.
and yes people (including in the irc channel) are saying "boo hoo go cry" etc etc... but thats really ****ing stupid.. 5 button pushes to make a call without voice? i think people forget this is A PHONE first and foremost.
anyways, the green button and then mag button combo are the best solution, albiet a workaround for now.
dialer one still contains lag for me so that options out.
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Obviously I'm just adding fuel to the fire here and not anything helpful....but this is one of the biggest reasons I still stick with Sense. I like its dialer and contacts MUCH better than the AOSP ones.
That's why I thought Ic3Rom was such a genius ROM in my opinion -- the speed and 'bloatlessness' of AOSP but it had the Sense/HTC dialer and contacts built into it. Too bad Mdawg isn't still dev'ing that one.
Sorry, not intending to threadjack. Carry on...
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When I first switched to AOSP, I missed HTC's dialer a lot....then I found Dialer One. Orders of magnitude better, my friend, orders of magnitude. It is just as smooth and functional as HTC's with far more customization. For instance, I like having my wallpaper as the background for EVERYTHING. My apps in the app drawer appear over my wallpaper, and when I dial, the contacts and their numbers do, too. Being able to easily edit the color of the text in the dialer means that this works with virtually any wallpaper. There is not one thing that I have found that HTC's dialer does better. Nothing. Not integration, not smoothness, not reliability, not speed...NOTHING.
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When I first switched to AOSP, I missed HTC's dialer a lot....then I found Dialer One. Orders of magnitude better, my friend, orders of magnitude. .
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u dont experience any lag on the htc hero? i experience some lag when haptic feedback/ vibration was enabled that turned me away. i tried it once the hero cdma got 2.1 and i saw no difference in lag, then i saw slightly less with 2.2 / cm6, but still.. i need no lag when my phone needs to be a phone and not surf the web. meaning calling people.
idk. i might try an alternative kernel to see if it helps with the dialer one lag.
Anyone notice if you open the Phone app the box in the middle says "Enter name or number" but there is no way to get the keyboard to pop up to begin typing. Am I missing a setting for the keyboard to pop up?
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Anyone notice if you open the Phone app the box in the middle says "Enter name or number" but there is no way to get the keyboard to pop up to begin typing. Am I missing a setting for the keyboard to pop up?
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type the name out on the numeric keypad. Or you could do like I did, and remove the phone icon on the launcher, and replace it with the contacts icon(you can get to the phone in the contacts app). I prefer it this way anyways.
Just press the numbers with the letters of the name you're looking for and the matching names will appear above. My name is Patrick so if I press 728 all the names starting with "Pat" appear.
Of course, it has a dial pad. Guess you have just minimized it. Please refer to attached screenshot on how to bring it up again...
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Of course, it has a dial pad. Guess you have just minimized it. Please refer to attached screenshot on how to bring it up again...
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I don't think that is what he was referring to. he was asking why the keyboard wold not come up. As in, the numeric keypd is there, but the alpha keyboard was not.
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I don't think that is what he was referring to. he was asking why the keyboard wold not come up. As in, the numeric keypd is there, but the alpha keyboard was not.
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Yes you are exactly right, on my Moto X the keyboard will pop up. If I use the dialpad and continue to type a name out using the letters on each number eventually it will bring up the contact I am looking for but it's certainly not as fast or intuitive as Moto's dialer.
As mentioned using the Contacts app this is even slower as you have to hit the search icon then start typing then decide how you want to communicate with that person(phone, text, email)
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As mentioned using the Contacts app this is even slower as you have to hit the search icon then start typing then decide how you want to communicate with that person(phone, text, email)
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There may only be one extra tap in contacts app process. so, not really all that much slower. My next option to you, would be to check out ExDialer, or another dialer app.