For a week I am a lucky owner of the Xperia X1. And it is everything I thought it would be!
But I have a question about the T9 function.
The Touch Pro suggest words (and has a T9 function also?) when entering text with the keyboard, is that also possible with the Xperia?
intered14 said:
For a week I am a lucky owner of the Xperia X1. And it is everything I thought it would be!
But I have a question about the T9 function.
The Touch Pro suggest words (and has a T9 function also?) when entering text with the keyboard, is that also possible with the Xperia?
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To a certain extent, it can suggest up to 4 words (or possibly more if you edit the registry) and that's enabled via the Options menu for the keyboard SIP. Personally I feel the Xperia's implementation of the autocomplete and especially autocorrect isn't nearly as robust as the Touch Pro, but something's better than nothing.
You can still install the Touch Pro On-Screen keyboard and T9 if you don't like the X1 default T9.
But does that improve the autocorrect/autocomplete functionality for the hardware keyboard? I read somewhere that installing that will actually disable whatever autocorrect/autocomplete feature that's currently on the Xperia.
phrozact said:
But does that improve the autocorrect/autocomplete functionality for the hardware keyboard? I read somewhere that installing that will actually disable whatever autocorrect/autocomplete feature that's currently on the Xperia.
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no it'll break the autocomplete function when using hardware keyboard.
the only thing i dont like about my X1 is the difficulty in SMS text messaging
is the on screen keyboard you guys are referring to the same as the on screen touch panel when you go to dial a phone number?
the same as 'traditional' phone keyboards?
if so, where can i download this function at?
many thanks
Ross
Yea, but why use a software touch keyboard when u got a nice hardware keyboard to work around with?
I find the hardware keyboard much more of us. And one of the reasons I (we?) brought the Xperia because of his hardware keyboard.
i do like the hard keyboard, but the thing i loved about my older SE phones was i could use the T9 predictive text, and text very fast and effortlessly using the predictive testing and the traditional keys, where as with this, sending a SMS is quite an effort!
so is there an on screen keypad the same as when you press the receiver button and see the keypad?
intered14 said:
Yea, but why use a software touch keyboard when u got a nice hardware keyboard to work around with?
I find the hardware keyboard much more of us. And one of the reasons I (we?) brought the Xperia because of his hardware keyboard.
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LOL... I spent ages trying to find the perfect soft keyboard for my device after losing the ability to use my favourite (PPCLink HiKeyboard) because of screen incompatibility. THEN it dawned on me! I actually have a hardware keyboard, I just forget it's there sometimes DOH!
big pimp said:
... i could use the T9 predictive text, and text very fast and effortlessly using the predictive testing and the traditional keys, where as with this, sending a SMS is quite an effort!
so is there an on screen keypad the same as when you press the receiver button and see the keypad?
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Did anyone find this yet?
I saw something about being able to access a t9 phonepad when using the chinese keyboard but it wouldn't work on my x10 and I loathe the qwerty boards on this phone.
ladyb
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Interested to see what everyone is using for text input and what they believe to be the best out of:-
Block Recognizer
Keyboard
Letter Recognizer
Phone Pad
TouchPal
Transcriber
Tengo
Slide QWERTY Keyboard
Other
Where is PCMKeyboard?
Where is MessagEase?
PCMKeyboard for me too when I'm on the move.
But surely it's a no-brainer...The hardware keyboard tops the lot?
First choice = The hardware keyboard (of course!)
Second choice = PocketCM Keyboard with my own layout
I voted keyboard, because I assumed that was the hardware keyboard. Until I saw the option for the slide-out qwerty keybard. So subtract one vote from keyboard, and add one to the slide-out.
That can be subjective
Best text input? Wow, that can be very subjective to ones own personal tastes and needs. For me the slide out keyboard is what I use for any doc I'm composing with high character count. For, lets say I just want to enter a user name and password, I will use the on screen key board. And for maybe making a running list (like a grocery list) I might use Transcriber.
I have not voted, firstly because Pocket CM does not appear in the list and secondly that I am undecided between Pocket CM and TouchPal. While Touchpal allows me faster typing but covers more screen real estate making it difficult to handle spreadsheets with frozen headers of more than a few rows
pcmkeyboard really doesnt work very well with window animations :<
gogol said:
First choice = The hardware keyboard (of course!)
Second choice = PocketCM Keyboard with my own layout
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Same for me.
Resco Keyboard
I voted other because Resco does Not appear on the list. I have the TMO Wing with the Querky Keyboad but find I always use Resco. So I guess I prefer Resco with the stylus.
The slide keyboard is by far the best method in my opinion, but only after I used the AE Buttons Plus to inactivate the two small soft keys of the slide-out keyboard. Before that, I would hit the left soft key by accident when typing R or T and this would activate the Send command and make my email fly incomplete. There was a thread for that recently in this forum which I started ,and it gave me very useful guidance.
PCMKeyboard is the best on the move but at home i use the hard ware keyboard
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I voted keyboard, because I assumed that was the hardware keyboard. Until I saw the option for the slide-out qwerty keybard. So subtract one vote from keyboard, and add one to the slide-out.
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And me! Arse.
PCMKeyboard with no doubt is the best
I always liked the HTC T9 pad when i had XDAs without hardware keyboard like on the TytnII and Exec (not counting my Ameo cos I hated the keyboard on that). However, when I installed it on this phone, I found an annoying behaviour where I would select a word but it would put only the first letter of that word in the conversation or message. Very annoying indeed. I have since hard reset the device but have not tried again with any T9 based pad due to time pressures.
Did anyone else have this problem?
I use MessagEase...
...since my old good Palm T3!
the reason i bought the phone is for the slide out keyboard.. lol
I've yet to find any input method I liked as much as Fitaly. So I voted Other.
Slide-out for me, all the way . Got so used to using the MDA Pro keyboard that even though I've had my Vario 3 only a few days I got straight into my stride even with the odd few button changes.
And as has been mentioned 'tis one of the main deal breakers for me too!
I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"
Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.
I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...
I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.
Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!
I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......
oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.
Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.
:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...
Hi guys,
This question is only for ex touch dual users.
1) Could you please tell me if you miss the physical keyboard? I know the virtual keyboard on the diamond can be set as "normal" numerical keyboard with xt9 but is it easy (and accurate) as the physical one to use??
2) I've read somewhere that the diamond was not vibrating when receiving an sms? Is it true??
Thank you for your feedback!
Answer to your first question, I did find the physical keyboard useful, only because it gave me the whole screen to look at, but using the keyboard itself the Diamond keyboard does a very good job. I have mine on Phone Keypad and i dont often make a mistake. I do admit that sometimes it can be frustrating, pushing the space bar or not pushing it when you should do, but I had the same using the Touch Dual hardware keyboard so the experience is on par.
Mmm, well mine seems ok when I get a text, altho i dont often set it to vibrate so will have a play today and see if i notice anything.
What i will say is that there is supposed to be a version of the Diamond coming out with a keypad. I dont mean the Touch Diamond Pro with the full qwerty keyboard i mean literally a Touch Dual keypad on the diamond. So far specs, information is all pretty hush hush so if you really miss the physical keypad and you think you will find it useful having one, maybe waiting would be the best option.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Tom
@ tom: Thank you for your answer.
I really like the physical keypad. It helps me writing text messages without having to "really" look at what I'm doing.
As you said, I think I'll wait some time hoping they will release a touch dual diamond...
Have a good day!
Anyone else could answer this question?? Would be nice to have more than one answer...
Sorry, me again! Ive had my phone on Vibrate since yesterday and not had any problems with it not vibrating when it should do.
Just thought I would let you know.
juju66 said:
Hi guys,
This question is only for ex touch dual users.
1) Could you please tell me if you miss the physical keyboard? I know the virtual keyboard on the diamond can be set as "normal" numerical keyboard with xt9 but is it easy (and accurate) as the physical one to use??
2) I've read somewhere that the diamond was not vibrating when receiving an sms? Is it true??
Thank you for your feedback!
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About the SMS - yes, it wasn't alerting (vibrate or sound) but there is a tweak - registry entry.
Works fine now
Hi all, just got the diamond last week, damn its nice, just the battery life sucks.
I used to own a UK T-Mobile Mda 3, loved the calender as i change shifts a lot, was looking to replace it a few months back heard tell of the diamond so decided to wait.......however...
The sms full keyboard on my old MDA3 used to allow predictive words (t9 i think) but the diamond does not seem to, I like the keyboard layout over the qwerty or comapct qwerty as they both take up too much for the screen for my taste.
The t9 does not seem to work in the keybaord layout, i think i have all the settings correct, as it works in the other 2 setups but not keybaord.
also, is there a website that lists all the compatible 6.1 programs? not sure what i want, but more like teeter would be nice, or even a different sms prog that allows predictive text!!
Cheers
Lepak
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The sms full keyboard on my old MDA3 used to allow predictive words (t9 i think) but the diamond does not seem to, I like the keyboard layout over the qwerty or comapct qwerty as they both take up too much for the screen for my taste.
The t9 does not seem to work in the keybaord layout, i think i have all the settings correct, as it works in the other 2 setups but not keybaord.
Lepak
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The same for me. T9 works only using qwerty layout. If you use keyboard layout predictive text doesn't work. Someone has an idea ? My rom is 1.37 from HTC official italian.
Thanks in advance
unvisigoth said:
The same for me. T9 works only using qwerty layout. If you use keyboard layout predictive text doesn't work. Someone has an idea ? My rom is 1.37 from HTC official italian.
Thanks in advance
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Found it ! Thanks to newtonmj in modaco forum
You must chaange the registry key XT9SupportMSSip in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ from '0' to '1'.
This allows the predictive text to work correctly in standard keyboard too.
I don't know if this mod can "damage" other settings but I don't think. It allows the predictive input to work using microsoft standard keyboard. In my device now works !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412048
PocketCM Keyboard, VGA resolution
[email protected] said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412048
PocketCM Keyboard, VGA resolution
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Very nice. I think I'll try it. But I wanted that worked correctly standard keyboard without adding third part software. What is standard in my device MUST work correctly. Then perhaps I'll not use it, but this is another thing
I'm paranoic. But I can't accept that a phone worth about 500€ does't go in the appropriate way......
is there a fix to allow my phone styled keypad and compact qwerty to write letters instead of numbers. Even if the letters are selected. This makes it extemely hard to write texts when one the move as i have to use the full qwerty which now does not wish to return to letters, after inserting a new contact!
so far i have tried swithcing keyboards back and forth and a soft reset. is there a CAB to update this keyboard or anything like that.
I have tried searching but the search function returns pretty much every post with the word keyboard in it which isnt too handy!
cheers
Aaron Neal
i've had that problem with the diamond keyboard installed on my touch pro, and all i did was switch to the standard windows keyboard, and then back to the phonepad and it works fine. if you need to, you could reinstall the diamond keyboard, its on here somewhere in this forum.
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i've had that problem with the diamond keyboard installed on my touch pro, and all i did was switch to the standard windows keyboard, and then back to the phonepad and it works fine. if you need to, you could reinstall the diamond keyboard, its on here somewhere in this forum.
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i have been looking, but like i said i get every single return of 'keyboard' in the search!