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General queries before flashing HTC P3600i

Hi Guys
I have a HTC P3600i in Australia. I had a few queries before I try flashing my phone.
These are my current settings.
ROM Version: 3.00.707.18
ROM Date: 07/24/07
Radio Version: 1.46.30.11
Protocol Version: 32.79.7020.19H
Now I wanted to put Windows Mobile 6.1 into my PDA..
1) Which is the best combination of Hard SPL + Radio + ROM to put onto my mobile. Can you please provide links here.. I got totally lost on the forum..
2) If I flash and something goes wrong, or if later I want to put it back with its original ROM (found on the HTC website), is it possible to do?
3) Any other things I should know before flashing the three things mentioned above
4) Anything else you guys will recommend to put in to the mobile.
Thanks in advance u guys

http://www.trinityguides.info/index.php

idrisito said:
http://www.trinityguides.info/index.php
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seen that guide.. but does the Hard-SPL contain the ROM also?? can u gimme link to the best stable WM6.1 ROM for P3600i

khandu said:
seen that guide.. but does the Hard-SPL contain the ROM also?? can u gimme link to the best stable WM6.1 ROM for P3600i
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NO the Hard SPL for P3600i (search for the thread) is only the Hard SPL.
As for ROM's it comes down to personal choice. There is a specific thread for P3600i ROMs that work, that is the best place to look....read...and make up your mind from there.

Andych said:
NO the Hard SPL for P3600i (search for the thread) is only the Hard SPL.
As for ROM's it comes down to personal choice. There is a specific thread for P3600i ROMs that work, that is the best place to look....read...and make up your mind from there.
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What about question 2??
its tough to get to know all those ROM.. can u suggest a few
thanks

OK:
1. Use the flashing tutorial at the top of the "Trinity upgrading" thread.
2. Flash with a ROM from the P3600I Rom Collection thread in the "Trinity Mobile 6" subforum.
Prob best to just go with the 31XiTNY ROMs as a good start... from there you can either decide to CBF and stick with it or try a few different ones... depends how keen you are on this stuff.
As for the risk of screwing things up, your only risk is first getting HardSPL on... if you can get that on and working fine, then a screwed-up ROM flash won't be an issue, you just start over again.
HardSPL has had over 1000 downloads from this week, and no one yet has reported having trouble flashing their P3600i, so I doubt you'll have any issues I know the first time I got into this I was ****ting myself wondering whether I made the wrong choice, but everything completed fine
Of course, you can never tell what will happen, etc. etc. lol so yeh up to you, but the benefits are definitely worth the risks lol

joncgde2 said:
HardSPL has had over 1000 downloads from this week, and no one yet has reported having trouble flashing their P3600i,
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Funny you say that when people keep asking for a working HARD SPL for some of the P3600i because it simply doesn't work on all P3600i.
Did you miss that?
Robert

demon83ft said:
Funny you say that when people keep asking for a working HARD SPL for some of the P3600i because it simply doesn't work on all P3600i.
Did you miss that?
Robert
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4 people out of over 1000 downloads isn't a big percentage. That and the fact that the OP is based in Australia and all of the australian P3600i from HTC work with Hard SPL (as far as we know) put the comment into context.
It is unfortunate that there are some out there who are not able to complete the HardSPL flash, but there isn't a lot that can be done. If you guys are adamant that the phone is a P3600i and the standard WWE ROM lashes ok on it then it should work with the HardSPL from Olipro.

Andych is right...
Plus now downloads are up to 1119 for HardSPL... 4 problems out of 1119 is something like 0.3%... so 99.7% have had NO problems.
I'd dare say that's statistically insignificant, and that the likelihood of this being a problem with HardSPL itself is low... or possibly some P3600i's are incompatible, unfortuneately - either way, if 99.7% of users have had success, I'd say that's pretty much everyone.

Ok..
So for
Hard SPL: I use Olipro 1.30
Radio: I use v1.56.70.11
ROM: any mentioned here on the thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399779) recommended 31XiTNY
Is that right??
Also someone was telling me about Soft SPL. He has used it in his Herems. Does that work for us?? and how does it work?

Thanks for you statistics lesson ..
I understand your point of view guys .. but if one day you will be in this 0.3%
and everybody will keep tapping you on the back saying "sorry, it should work.." .. we will see how nice will be me calling you "statistically insignificant"
Robert

demon83ft said:
Thanks for you statistics lesson ..
I understand your point of view guys .. but if one day you will be in this 0.3%
and everybody will keep tapping you on the back saying "sorry, it should work.." .. we will see how nice will be me calling you "statistically insignificant"
Robert
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Robert....trust me....for 12 months we WERE the 0.3% so we know your frustration. The problem is that most of us flashed the HardSPL 3 months ago and as it is a Flash once operation it is impossible to replicate the errors you are having. The other difficult part is the that the Supreme genius Olipro who gave us the HardSPL is not fully engaged in his Diamond projects so I doubt he has either the time or the inclination to offer any assistance....sad, but that is the way life is.
I will re-read the problems you and the pther couple of psters are having and see if there are any other things you can try. I do remember though that you all had slightly different Error Codes, which is a concern.
Anyway, hang in there, I won;t get a real chance to read and digest the info before the weekend....but I will do it and post back in that thread.

Andych said:
Robert....trust me....for 12 months we WERE the 0.3% so we know your frustration. The problem is that most of us flashed the HardSPL 3 months ago and as it is a Flash once operation it is impossible to replicate the errors you are having. The other difficult part is the that the Supreme genius Olipro who gave us the HardSPL is not fully engaged in his Diamond projects so I doubt he has either the time or the inclination to offer any assistance....sad, but that is the way life is.
I will re-read the problems you and the pther couple of psters are having and see if there are any other things you can try. I do remember though that you all had slightly different Error Codes, which is a concern.
Anyway, hang in there, I won;t get a real chance to read and digest the info before the weekend....but I will do it and post back in that thread.
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If you wish I can provide IM and desktop sharing so that you can watch how I do it ... maybe it is us who do it wrong .. I am newbie in flashing but I have 10-12 years of PC experience .. so I doubt I can't follow a simple guide ...
PM me when you have 10 minutes and maybe we can sort this out ...

ROM Cooking First Time - I HAVE SEARCHED and searched...

Hi,
Please could someone point me in the right direction on a tutorial/guide on how to use KovskyKitchen? If there isnt one at the moment then please let me know.
Furthermore could someone let me know how to rip/extract the baseROM from a UK Vodafone X1. I am completely new to this game but would like to make my X1 as lean as possible (really how I see fit), do worry I HAVE SEARCHED THE FORUMS but cant seem to find a definitive guide.
Cheers,
Phil Rich

philrich1 said:
Hi,
Please could someone point me in the right direction on a tutorial/guide on how to use KovskyKitchen? If there isnt one at the moment then please let me know.
Furthermore could someone let me know how to rip/extract the baseROM from a UK Vodafone X1. I am completely new to this game but would like to make my X1 as lean as possible (really how I see fit), do worry I HAVE SEARCHED THE FORUMS but cant seem to find a definitive guide.
Cheers,
Phil Rich
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There isn't one for X1. But you could read the guide for kitchen for other device (Touch pro, kaiser ...etc) since all are basically the same.
Basically, you need to put the extracted nbh file in /baserom and run the command the to extract.
Or maybe you could try mine or itje's lite/clean rom to save yr time.

searched and searched but didn't bother reading a couple of threads down on here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446382&page=2
to dump the rom you need itse rom tools and run pdocread.
if you type rom dump into the google search at the top it tells you how to do it.
I have dumped the vfuk rom, but the 4 raw files are even at maximum compression 250mb+ so I haven't had time to post them
When you have the 4 raw parts you stick one of the base ruu_signed.nbh roms that are already on this forum and put part2 & part3 raw files in the base rom folder of the kovsky kitchen, as said here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446382

Thanks for the advice, but...
Hi,
Thanks for the links fards.
Please could you describe to me what a nbh file is?
What does it do and where can I get one from?
Does this come from the ROM dump?
Thanks,
Phil

x Panel
dude, have u rip the x Panel out from x1 yet?? can u pls post the cab file? thanks...

philrich1 said:
Hi,
Thanks for the links fards.
Please could you describe to me what a nbh file is?
What does it do and where can I get one from?
Does this come from the ROM dump?
Thanks,
Phil
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Just curious, but do you have any experience flashing ROMs yet? I have owned 3 XDA's and flashed many ROMs so I know a lot about the ROMs SPL's and such. Thats something you should be knowledgeable in. I am thinking about getting into cooking too now.
A nbh file is a ROM. The nbh is the product of your cooking, and the nbh is what you put into the RUU to flash to your device. You can get it from a ROM dump or you can download it from others.

It's always a good idea to just download the tools, start them up and take a look around. See what options are available and get familiar with them. From there start asking questions. It's a bit hard to answer if you're basically saying "tell me everything".

Angelusz said:
It's always a good idea to just download the tools, start them up and take a look around. See what options are available and get familiar with them. From there start asking questions. It's a bit hard to answer if you're basically saying "tell me everything".
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you're learning fast
all ive ever done is read the other device tutorials and had a play, although i did prefer the hypercore kitchen on the athena to the kovsky/kaiser based one.
but it does the job especially with the really neat options.xml generator

I am starting to learn to cook roms, does the HyperCore work for xperia? what kind of dump should i select? normal OS.bin (option 3)?

Need to Re-cook Rom easiest way - need simplest 123 steps - Sorry, I know the rules.

I know there are tutorials, but they are way too much too read, I was wondering if some expert chef pens down simple method of re-cooking the Rom with any tracking software, so that all the novices like me can protect our expensive phone.
All I am asking for is with kitchen to use for 6.5 Roms and how to re-cook it with any tracking software, in simple steps.
Pls dont get offended by my pic.
Thanks

So you want someone to produce a halfassed tutorial that may not be complete and cover everything. Sounds good, I think I would like to make a rom myself.

viewedit said:
I know there are tutorials, but they are way too much too read
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If they are long there might be a reason, like, because those steps are actually needed to cook a ROM?
Maybe you could do the effort of reading the tutorials instead of asking someone to "donate" you 10x more of their own time to rewrite something just for you when everything's already there...

u CAN NOT recoock any wm6.5 ROM
u can coock one u self and put inside whatever u want .
ALL NEW ROMS are protected for recoocking by the new basic tool from BEPE .
bye

Your best bet would be too watch the videos in the wiki. They are stright forward and very easy to follow, and if that is too much , you should not be cooking roms for your phone. When I first started cooking, I had a hard time following the text walkthrough untill I found the videos. Maybe you can talk to one of the cooks that have released a 6.5 rom and see if they will help you.
Here are the Videos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1968557

j101399j said:
Your best bet would be too watch the videos in the wiki. They are stright forward and very easy to follow, and if that is too much , you should not be cooking roms for your phone. When I first started cooking, I had a hard time following the text walkthrough untill I found the videos. Maybe you can talk to one of the cooks that have released a 6.5 rom and see if they will help you.
Here are the Videos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1968557
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i know its complicated, thats the reason i am asking for - only the procedure to insert the tracking software.

Thanks for info
anryl said:
u CAN NOT recoock any wm6.5 ROM
u can coock one u self and put inside whatever u want .
ALL NEW ROMS are protected for recoocking by the new basic tool from BEPE .
bye
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What i understand is I wont be able to Re-cook any Rom by inserting tracking software is it ? then its sad.

kilrah said:
If they are long there might be a reason, like, because those steps are actually needed to cook a ROM?
Maybe you could do the effort of reading the tutorials instead of asking someone to "donate" you 10x more of their own time to rewrite something just for you when everything's already there...
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I was asking for help, I know tutorial are there, and I have read it, I am very sure, not many people have time to experiment. All I am asking for is how to insert tracking software in Cooked Rom, thats in easy step, without getting in to changes to the Chefs Rom. Only thing added to the Rom will be the tracking Software.

X1 Chef's Develop & Share Center

Not a big deal this thread, its not a protest agains any "recent happenings"
I just wish to start a (mainly) X1 development place where we (developers and chefs for x1) can help eachother out.
Im am soon to share all my kitchen packages, inlcuding my kitchen (some trix im keeping, but not packages or files) and I hope thats a direction we all can go.. but I will respect those who dont agree, and I I hope those who decide to work with me on this, wont judge those who dont want to either.
Also I would like that when we get stuff from this thread, we give credits to those who contributed to solve the problems.
I will ofcourse kick in help on other ppls projects if I am able...
I WILL DELETE NON TOPIC POSTS. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO SAY, PLEASE DONT POST HERE.
cheers
My contribution for now:
Packages from Rhodium
All is setup for Bepes Platformrebuilder, so if you use another kitchen, then theese wont work, you will have to convert to standard oem packages.
I have to much work on my hands to convert them, so I hope those who do convert to standard packages, will upload them here.

itje said:
I just wish to start a (mainly) X1 development place where we (developers and chefs for x1) can help eachother out.
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Cool! Let's join force and have all the missing parts working.
p.s. have fun w/ party.

finaly. thanks -itje this is what we want...
i got a few things workin on the dialer, will check back l8er with progress and files if thers any..
my roms aint protected so feel free to use all files..
have a blast at the party.

I want to share my Manila OEM package. This package is about 1000 files smaller than the common version and has a patched ManilaToday.dll (thx fireball2k) which almost solves the right softkey bug. It makes your rom cleaner and you have some mb more space. It´s working only on WWE rom versions.
http://rapidshare.com/files/206819408/PACKAGE_Diamond2_Manila.rar.html

bugger!!!!
you got the dialer in RC2 don't you?
as it says conference call!
tell us, share!!!

YYYYY said:
I want to share my Manila OEM package. This package is about 1000 files smaller than the common version and has a patched ManilaToday.dll (thx fireball2k) which almost solves the right softkey bug. It makes your rom cleaner and you have some mb more space. It´s working only on WWE rom versions.
http://rapidshare.com/files/206819408/PACKAGE_Diamond2_Manila.rar.html
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Thanks. Work great.

hi all,
I recently bought myself an X1, and want to start cooking
i develope hardware and sofware for a living.
To become a chef, I first need to know some basics. is there any good wiki where de structure is explained?

Maybe someone can help me to get the HTC Fingermenu to run. This my current package status, it doesn´t work for me.
http://rapidshare.com/files/207108444/Fingermenu.rar.html
@smaberg
I´ve managed to get the dialer working except some links and the conferrence call

I can unfortunatly not share the dialer package at the moment, I promised that I would not share it just yet, if not.. I would not have gotten it...
But, its not the dialer I recieved wich "worked out of the box" because mine package works with rc2 also. So there are more to it then just release the packages, I need to figure out what makes this stuff "tick" before I release the packages I made myself.
I am gonna share the stuff I got, but I cant share what I got from my source...I hope you guys understand this...
Ofcourse I can share my old packages, but they dont work the correct way yet...
I know that many thinks that why cant I just release them and say its my fixed ones?..but that would not be fair to my friends who shared their work with me
If I was to release them now, it would be nice for all im sure, but then I would cut of a tie to a friend, and I would also loose a good developer that can help out if I need assistance in future projects...
I feel a bit sad that I cant upload it just yet, but I will do what I can to give you guys good packages to work with.
thx for understanding

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Maybe someone can help me to get the HTC Fingermenu to run. This my current package status, it doesn´t work for me.
http://rapidshare.com/files/207108444/Fingermenu.rar.html
@smaberg
I´ve managed to get the dialer working except some links and the conferrence call
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dont look in the dialer package, you need more packages from topaz that is not rebuild with regsettings from blackstone...you need the correct settings, and some dll's, but, read my previous post on this
cheers

Thx,
I can fully understand your arguments. But I´m more interested in getting the Fingermenu working. May you help me there? I´ve attached the oem package for that in the previous post I guess there is a package, file or whatever to get this working are you allowed to release the secret just for the fingermenu? Any little advise

YYYYY said:
Thx,
I can fully understand your arguments. But I´m more interested in getting the Fingermenu working. May you help me there? I´ve attached the oem package for that in the previous post I guess there is a package, file or whatever to get this working are you allowed to release the secret just for the fingermenu? Any little advise
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I will look into it, there are some basic files that is needed by most of the new stuff, so I will check it and have a look
edit, you are missing most of the files...or you might have them in other packages..and regsettings are under 50% of what is needed..for now I can say wich files, but you need to look for the regsettings yourself (sorry cant do better right now)
CALIBRI.TTF
EmailMenuEnhancement.dll
htcDutils.dll
HTCUtil.dll
ResProxy.dll
FileUpload.dll
HTCScroll.dll
ResLoader.dll
I had those myself in my package, but I didnt have all the correct regsettings...
Hope it helps

here is full ORIGINAL Rhodium keyboard (not from the infamous duttydump)
its not modded in any way..
OEM Rhodium

Thanks for your help, I will see what I can do

itje said:
dont look in the dialer package, you need more packages from topaz that is not rebuild with regsettings from blackstone...you need the correct settings, and some dll's, but, read my previous post on this
cheers
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Ok thanks, and as you know im working on the 6.5 release right now, and i got the dialer to work on boot, but when resetting or restart it wont work anymore, and as you said ill guess half the regsettings are missing as the menu thingi wont work proper either. its a damn shame...
by the way, my 6.5 package will be released puplic as i wont protect it. it mush faster with new touchflo than the old 6.1 -go figure, damn micrsh...
but ill respect you and your source (i wont meantion his name here)
but how long do you think before release? i really need it for my 6.5 release... if i cant get it to work myself, i think i got all the files needed, maybe a few missing.

Phonecanvas here
http://rapidshare.com/files/207293072/PhoneCanvas_3_50_33968_0.rar

can someone provide even a simple list of files of new fingermenu? I need only for my "green" purposes

Hi,
have a look at page 1, I postet the OEM package for this
@itje
thx for the dialer

thanks itje for the dialer
br

thank you I missed it

Understanding of ROM and Radio [Help!]

hey guys,
i have a htc touch diamond and have never updated any of the phones software and was wondering what would be the best rom and radio updates to get on my phone and how do i go round trying to change it?
currently my phone has:
ROM version: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Rom date: 06/12/2008
if someone could please help me out understanding what i should do and how i can update it to the best versions i would really appreciate it.
thank you.

Read all the threads and don't ask which ROM is the best and stuff like that!! Each person's choice might be different from yours. Take some time to go through all the STICKY's . Thats how everyone learns.

siddharthsai said:
Read all the threads and don't ask which ROM is the best and stuff like that!! Each person's choice might be different from yours. Take some time to go through all the STICKY's . Thats how everyone learns.
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erm first of all no need for the exclamation marks lol well i also asked how i go about updating a particular rom and radio which i have chosen as i did go through the rom STICKY's but couldn't understand how to do it... lol

no help then....?

woooow!
thats mean! look for threads with the radios... make your selection witch will coordinate to your service provider. first! you have to unlock your phone witch is like flashing your rom. its called SPL, I am currently flashing a touch to work with sprint. I am on the hunt