Tomtom works very well on my TILT. But as long as Flight Mode is turned on, no satellite can be found. Is this a ROM limitation, or a software limitation, or a hardware limitation. Is there a hope to fix it? Or did I make any mistake? Thanks.
winsos1000 said:
Tomtom works very well on my TILT. But as long as Flight Mode is turned on, no satellite can be found. Is this a ROM limitation, or a software limitation, or a hardware limitation. Is there a hope to fix it? Or did I make any mistake? Thanks.
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Hmmmmm think about this one for a second. Flight mode is made to disable ALL radios when in an airplane so as to NOT cause interference with the Pilots Instruments. GPS is a type of radio, therefore "Flight Mode" disables GPS as well as Wifi, Bluetooth, and Cellular radios.
Simple Answer........ Its SUPPOSED to disable GPS while in "Flight Mode"
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Hmmmmm think about this one for a second. Flight mode is made to disable ALL radios when in an airplane so as to NOT cause interference with the Pilots Instruments. GPS is a type of radio, therefore "Flight Mode" disables GPS as well as Wifi, Bluetooth, and Cellular radios.
Simple Answer........ Its SUPPOSED to disable GPS while in "Flight Mode"
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Thanks for the reply. Then it is possible to disable phone and GPRS while keep GPS working?
Over the thanks giving holiday, I was able to use the GPS with flight mode on.
The GPS would not pick up a signal unless I held the phone to the window. Signal dropped immediately when I would pull the phone away.
Edit-I flew if you did not pick that up.
GPS works perfectly fine in flight mode here.
Where were you? If on an airliner, you rarely get any GPS signal in there, the metal hull acts as a good shield and prevents signals from reaching in. Even with a good receiver, you will have some signal at some point if sticking the receiver on the window, but usually it's unreliable and it will regularly drop. Forget about acquiring a first fix inside too, if you want to standa a chance make sure the GPS is on and has a fix before entering the plane.
pyraxiate said:
Hmmmmm think about this one for a second. Flight mode is made to disable ALL radios when in an airplane so as to NOT cause interference with the Pilots Instruments.
Simple Answer........ Its SUPPOSED to disable GPS while in "Flight Mode"
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Disable all TRANSMITTING radios - GPS only receives, so no problem there.
pyraxiate said:
Hmmmmm think about this one for a second. Flight mode is made to disable ALL radios when in an airplane so as to NOT cause interference with the Pilots Instruments. GPS is a type of radio, therefore "Flight Mode" disables GPS as well as Wifi, Bluetooth, and Cellular radios.
Simple Answer........ Its SUPPOSED to disable GPS while in "Flight Mode"
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Actually I disagree. Flight Mode is supposed to disable all radio transmitters on the phone, so that it does not interfere with the airplanes electronics. But since GPS is only recieving, and not transmitting, there is no need to turn it off. The GPS satelites will be transmitting signals no matter what the setting is on your phone, and thank god for that - the airplane is likely using the GPS for navigation.
Regards,
Spip
spip72 said:
Actually I disagree. Flight Mode is supposed to disable all radio transmitters on the phone, so that it does not interfere with the airplanes electronics. But since GPS is only recieving, and not transmitting, there is no need to turn it off. The GPS satelites will be transmitting signals no matter what the setting is on your phone, and thank god for that - the airplane is likely using the GPS for navigation.
Regards,
Spip
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Then I stand corrected. I never use flight mode these days because of the wonderful communications manager we get. I just click on what I want on or off. Its the easiest and most efficient way to have running only what I want on and killing my battery.
GPS/TomTom works perfectly in Flight Mode, I used it many times this way.
Thanks for the discussions.
I googled and found a possible solution to use GPS with phone disabled. One can set up a Simcard Pin. After rebooting the phone, you will be asked for the pin number, press "cancel". By doing this you disable only the phone service but GPS is supposed to keep running. At least I got it worked once this morning.
In flight mode, TT doesn't work in my case. The software says "no signal (flight mode)". But it's not gonna be a problem if the above solution works. Will try it again later and report here. The weather is not good here now in NYC .
By the way, I am doing it not for saving battery. I will travel abroad in the next month. It is important for me to have GPS work in flight mode, because the the locked device is not compatible with simcards from local carriers.
winsos1000 said:
Thanks for the discussions.
I googled and found a possible solution to use GPS with phone disabled. One can set up a Simcard Pin. After rebooting the phone, you will be asked for the pin number, press "cancel". By doing this you disable only the phone service but GPS is supposed to keep running. At least I got it worked once this morning.
In flight mode, TT doesn't work in my case. The software says "no signal (flight mode)". But it's not gonna be a problem if the above solution works. Will try it again later and report here. The weather is not good here now in NYC .
By the way, I am doing it not for saving battery. I will travel abroad in the next month. It is important for me to have GPS work in flight mode, because the the locked device is not compatible with simcards from local carriers.
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Just unlock it. It isn't hard. You can usually get the code from your carrier.
Try switching on flight mode AFTER starting TT
winsos1000 said:
Tomtom works very well on my TILT. But as long as Flight Mode is turned on, no satellite can be found. Is this a ROM limitation, or a software limitation, or a hardware limitation. Is there a hope to fix it? Or did I make any mistake? Thanks.
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On my device (HTC TyTN II not a Tilt) TT6 works while flight mode is on as long as TT6 is started before turning flight mode on. It's only if I attempt to start TT6 while flight mode is already on that I get TT6 telling me it won't do its thing because of flight mode.
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I am sometimes in areas where there is no cell phone service. During the weeks to months that i am in these areas, i have pretty constant WiFi access. I would like to be able to disable my cellular radio and have WiFi take the place of it, allowing my Tilt to receive push email and instant messages and skype phone calls like it does when it is connected to the cellular network.
Unfortunately, it seems that wifi is turned off when the device sleeps. How can i avoid this? The only thing i've thought of is to stop the device from sleeping automaticly, and just have the screen turn off and the device lock. The problem with this is that i have to be careful to never hit the power button.
Are there any other things i should know in order to get wifi to replace cellular (with the exception of cellular voice and SMS obviously)?
If you have skype connected at all times, then the "prevent device standby mode when online" will help. Its the 4th option under Menu -> Settings. This is enabled by default.
This topic has been discussed many times.
There is an option available in 'Kaiser Tweaks' to keep WiFi enabled but will drastically reduce your battery life if not on power/charge !
Farsquidge,
I'm embarrassed. I did a search, but obviously not a good enough one. Thanks so much. I did not have the newest Kaiser Tweak update.
I'll disable the cell radio when out of range, how much more juice does the wifi radio use?
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Farsquidge,
I'm embarrassed. I did a search, but obviously not a good enough one. Thanks so much. I did not have the newest Kaiser Tweak update.
I'll disable the cell radio when out of range, how much more juice does the wifi radio use?
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I don't have any exact figures for that as I have never used the option but if you disable the phone then it may not be so bad. See what you get out of it yourself and post back here for others.
Hi all,
Can we turn GPS on in Flight mode? it may save power when going out.
Thanks
hcnhan said:
Hi all,
Can we turn GPS on in Flight mode? it may save power when going out.
Thanks
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hi, gps is normally always activated - also in flight mode, so what do you mean
do you mean turn full off gps?
Do you mean: Flight Mode=everything off?
HTC GPS tool will get GPS connection.
TomTom will not get GPS data and will tell you're in Flight Mode.
However, if you enable Bluetooth TomTom will work in Flight Mode.
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Do you mean: Flight Mode=everything off?
HTC GPS tool will get GPS connection.
TomTom will not get GPS data and will tell you're in Flight Mode.
However, if you enable Bluetooth TomTom will work in Flight Mode.
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If you enable BT then you are no longer in flight mode.
This is not the same with mine. I have TTN6 and it works fine when I am in flight mode. Was sitting next to the window on a BA flight recently with flight mode on and switched TT on just to try it. It told me I was in flight mode (bottom left hand corner) but after a minute or so locked onto satelites and showed me my position, speed etc. My camera warnings kept coming up - warning me of a 30mph camera when we were travelling at 400mph!
By the way BA actually tells you on their website that they allow the use of GPS devices in flight, but not at take off and landing
Not really a phone issue, I know that it's with either my router or my modem (not sure how it works exactly). When I disable my GPS and put my phone on Airplane Mode (but leave Wifi on) and go into Maps, my location is incorrect. It is showing me at my old house (a few hundred miles away from where I live now). How do I go about telling whatever tracks where my router is, that it's not there anymore?
You said you turned the gps off? You have to have gps ON..lol. It is probably showing you the last location it was turned off. So turn the gps on and make sure it is receiving a signal from the birds(satellites). You cannot get a gps signal with gps off and it will not show a correct location. Wifi is for downloading the maps to show where your gps location is.
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You said you turned the gps off? You have to have gps ON..lol. It is probably showing you the last location it was turned off. So turn the gps on and make sure it is receiving a signal from the birds(satellites). You cannot get a gps signal with gps off and it will not show a correct location. Wifi is for downloading the maps to show where your gps location is.
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Wifi is also for location. Hence, Wifi Location. Go away until you understand the actual question.
Its not an accurate location tool, GPS is accurate the other is not.
If I turn GPS off I am usually in the middle of a field quite a way from my house, it uses the network, not WiFi (IIRC)
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Its not an accurate location tool, GPS is accurate the other is not.
If I turn GPS off I am usually in the middle of a field quite a way from my house, it uses the network, not WiFi (IIRC)
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Obviously no one knows what I'm talking about, so nevermind.
anyone else notice that when using the Samsung captivate & navigation that is recommends turning on WiFi. it doesn't make sense, but i notice it makes a huge difference in speeding up satellite connection time with WiFi on.
could this be the issue with the GPS??
please confirm this.
-Alex
This is not a fix. Turning WFi on will help give your phone another source to determine your location. The key thing here is that WiFi cannot determine your location as accurately as GPS can. If you look again, you'll probably see that your phone will "lock" onto your position much faster, but it's probably not going to be accurate enough to be usable.
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This is not a fix. Turning WFi on will help give your phone another source to determine your location. The key thing here is that WiFi cannot determine your location as accurately as GPS can. If you look again, you'll probably see that your phone will "lock" onto your position much faster, but it's probably not going to be accurate enough to be usable.
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you must have read the title before i edited it.
im not using the WiFi as a location source since i don't have any WiFi internet on the road.
but i notice that the GPS locks on quicker than without the Wifi on.
my nexus one never suggest to turn on WiFi when using navigation
Its not necessarily wifi based location but it can use wifi to download gps data. For a date lock. Its just a suggestion, I don't see why out would make a difference with out a wifi signal.
I prefer to not have network location or sensor aiding enabled. Sensor aiding really doesn't work. Made my my tracks results erratic. Network location gets me within 2 miles, not exactly good for navigation, having it on only allow something to fall back on of you lose gps signal but the whole process of the phone switching from one source to the other and back again takes to long. Keeping network location off forces it to only try to get a gps lock and in my opinion works better.
As far as wifi, if you believe it works better that way then do what every you think helps. It really should only download the data and once it has it it is done with wifi un till it needs new data which usually won't be for several hours.
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So I am using a Nexus 6 on the Latest Tmo build (28E?) of Stock Rom and Stock Kernel Rooted, Encrypted.
Since the update that enabled wifi-calling for the N6 I have taken to setting my phone to airplane mode and turning on Wifi only to save battery since the signal at my house bounces back and forth from LTE to 3G and that murders my battery. Most of the time the signal strength graph shows blank and battery app correctly shows the cellular radios as having no on time. However, after being idle for a while (it would seem) the graph begins to show the signal strength as Red (no signal) and the cellular standby shows up in battery usage with the radios as being on (with no signal) and "active for a few seconds". Toggling airplane mode on and off usually restores them to showing up as off. Other times I never notice and it stays on for a few hours and goes back off on it's own. My main concern is that it seems to be activating the radio on it's own, my minor concern would be that my battery monitor app shows that it's using the battery. What could be causing this? I don't think it's a reporting glitch, because it shows up in both the system battery panel and a 3rd party one. If anyone has any thoughts or could point me towards a tool that could help me figure out what's turning on the radio when it's supposed to be off, please let me know. I've included photos from today showing what I'm talking about, the phone has been in airplane mode the whole time in these photos.
Thanks so much!
Kev
I think your issue is one of the reason why I cannot get Wifi Calling working at all. No matter what I do, my phone is holding onto a cellular network. Still trying to figure this out.
nautec said:
I think your issue is one of the reason why I cannot get Wifi Calling working at all. No matter what I do, my phone is holding onto a cellular network. Still trying to figure this out.
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The best I can tell, "Android OS" is the only thing that shows any mobile packets sent or received so it's got to be a system thing.
If you have the myT-mobile app installed try uninstalling it I found that app totally screwed with my Nexus 6, turning WiFi on when I had no desire to use it.
stevemw said:
If you have the myT-mobile app installed try uninstalling it I found that app totally screwed with my Nexus 6, turning WiFi on when I had no desire to use it.
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Unfortunately that's not the fix. I don't have that app installed. Tmo is sending me a new SIM as I am also randomly having Wifi calling drop in and out even while my wifi is connected.
Does anyone know any app that would let me see specifically what app is engaging the mobile radio?
Airplane mode disables all outbound communications however inbound ones are still discoverable.
I can receive calls in airplane mode...
Samg381 said:
Airplane mode disables all outbound communications however inbound ones are still discoverable.
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... I just joined to see why is my Nexus 6 receiving calls in airplane mode (and Wifi off...). It's a recurrent problem... everytime there's an update I have this issue...