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OK..so we are all excited about the Kaiser and some of the lucky ones have it already. We all know the specs and we hear about the fun those lucky ones are having with the devices. Needless to say, with new devices, problems sometimes follow. I know there have been a few minor complaints but, let's use this thread to compile the issues (and hopefully the fixes).
I am thinking of jumping ship from my rather good plan in order to get a Kaiser and hearing both sides of the spectrum can help myself and others make a more educated decision.
I am interested in Kaiser also. One of the most issue that i hope being fix in Kaiser was the screen auto-on issue while changing song when listen MP3 with BT stereo handsfree which happened in D810 and P3600i.
Well, I've had my kaiser since the 7th and I have put it through most of it's paces so far.
The only complaint I can think of is the already known problem where storing pocket IE's cache on the storage card causes it to freeze up. I'm fully confident that someone here will figure it out.
That said it's a really nice upgrade from the Tytn I've been using for over a year. If you consider a different browser, like Opera mini it performs extremely well.
I've had one about a month. Overall very pleased with the purchase. Here are my top nits:
1. Audio clicks or audio cut-out when playing long audio files (>5min). click will happen every 5 min, which might suggest it's reading the file into memory in chunks and having trouble at the transition. I'm hoping a new, faster micro-sd card will fix this.
2. screen doesn't turn off by default, just dims to lowest level. Not that the phone doesn't go into standby when it should, it's just that when you are using it you expect the previous TyTN behavior where the screen goes off after a certain period. Annoying only in certain circumstances; for instance, when you play long audio files at night to go to sleep the screen stays on. Solution is easy: just push the power button. Audio keeps playing. Not a big negative per se, just a new behavior to get used to.
3. Hard to select multiple items (e.g. email) with finger. Used to be you could finger one item and then "drag" down the list, selecting multiple items. Now that causes the email list to scroll. Again not a negative, just a new way of behaving.
4. The camera. Takes forever to actually take the shot. Unless you set it on a stable surface or take long shots in good light, the images are blurry. It's a phone so I don't really care that much...
5. Lack of dedicated button for Comm Manager. You can have a soft button, but whatever... Also I haven't found a way to remap the otherwise useless PTT button.
6. Nobody has uploaded the 'cool' HTC rom. I have to install the HTCHome and Comm Mgr app cabs from the Hermes group. The AT&T roms look boring and are bloated with crapware like Ms PacMan eval version (including the frickin' .cab file) and MP3 files.
7. After hanging up a voice call, d-pad in email stops working. That is, I can use the screen to do actions like select and open an email, but the d-pad and center button don't work. Once the mail is open, I can use the d-pad. Seems like this doesn't happen every time, but it's annoying when it does. I'm sure a software update will fix this.
None of these things would prevent me from buying the product again. I personally find the browser perf about the same as the TyTN - downloading full HTML pages takes a while, but it's a phone so it doesn't bother me like it would if it were a laptop.
M
So how do they handle your #3 issue with the semi-touch flow now? How do you go about selecting multiple items?
I hadn't really thought of it until I wrote this... After some investigation I find that if I hold down my finger on the first selected item, wait, then drag it, it works.
how's the in-call voice quality & signal strength from the kaiser's qualcomm chip, compared to previous htc phones (fo example, ones which featured the TI omap chip)?
and also how's the gps? is it really that much worse than a sirfstar to the point where it would become unusable in a city with many tall buildings?
Here is my very small list of gripes..
1. There is no default hardware button that allows you to change the Sound Volume at any time...like when/if you're somewhere quiet and the phone rings loudly or a reminder pops up loudly. Many devices have Vol Up & Down buttons on the side of the device that will let you do this but with the TyTN II you'll have to either use the default Volume control icon at the top of the screen (which is tough to get to using a finger) or use the HTC Touch panel - assuming you have it enabled in the Task Panel settings. You can however adjust the volume during a call using the thumb wheel--which is nice.
2. For some reason, We can't redirect IE cache, cookies and history to the microSD card. I know there's been discussion about this. When you make the registry change, IE freezes when pulling up sites. When you put it back to the default folder or any folder in main storage memory, all sites work fine. Everything else--email attachments, apps, games, GPS maps, etc. seem to do fine when accessed from the card.
3. No HTC TouchFLO 3D Cube
For some reason, the TyTN II has TouchFLO but without the Cube. I would love to get this iPhone Killer app" working on the TyTN II. I know you guys are working on it!
TEC
I live in the US, and this is the reason why im waiting for the AT&T tilt, i want them to fix all the bugs. When the TyTN came out, the 8525 had less bugs, including the screen alignment thing.
Funny, I had just dumped the VERY unstable GPS enabled HP hw6945 in favor of the then new 8525. I was just about to return the 8525 because it was also pretty buggy and prone to hangs. Then I found XDA, applied the tweaks and eventually new roms and now the 8525 is just about perfect.
I'll have my Kaiser in 2 days and am looking forward to what the XDA wizzards will do with it in the comming months.
But a first release from AT&T is bound to be lacking, and probably bloated with less than usefull widgets.
The good you already know so I wont go into all of that, but after all the hype I'm actually dissapointed with this device.
I am a long time treo user (my last machine being a very stable, but dull treo 680).
Last month I bought the HTC Touch (a FANTASTIC machine, especially with HTC Home). But after the Treo, I still need a keyboard as its basically hard work to enter long messages, even with the SIP keyboard (plus TYTN II has 3G and GPS).
So I got my TYTN II 2 days ago and im not enjoying the exeperience, especially when compared to the Touch which was flawless for me. I find that the machine hangs, isnt that responsive, the sound level is much lower than the Touch (both ear and speaker) and while its supposed to be 2x as fast, it really isnt much faster than the Touch. It does have a better screen than the Touch and many other advantages, but none of these are critical for me. Plus I dont know anyone who uses video calling so I have noone to call with it!!!
But the worst part of the TYTN II is that its a MONSTER in both size and weight. Its like walking around with a brick in my pocket! For example, holding the phone while on a long call is very uncomfortable. I just dont like the form factor (actually I miss my Treos front facing keyboard).
So if you own a Touch, have a BT GPS device, can get by with wifi, and can get the hang of the on-board keyboard then I suggest you upgrade the ROM on the Touch and stick with it. Im sorry i didnt.
That said, now I own this device Im going to try to make it work for me and get used to it, or sell it!
About the size and weight, it should be subjective.
For me, it is perfect, not small, but not too big either.
The thickness is good, less than TyTn but more than Touch.
I have no problem handling and carrying it or making phone, etc.
The device is quite responsive, I dont have problem with it. The built-in keyboard is working fine except that I am not used to it yet, so sometimes I missed the key But, I am working on it (to get used to).
The thing that I dont like:
1. Takes a long time to fully charge from 10% to 100% ! More than 4 hours using USB connection.
2. Need more hardware button to map application I want to be able to switch application by using a hardware button. Well, I can replace one of the button, but ...
3. Camera and video recording sucks on indoor situation (low light), but very good on outdoor.
ekerbuddy said:
The good you already know so I wont go into all of that, but after all the hype I'm actually dissapointed with this device.
I am a long time treo user (my last machine being a very stable, but dull treo 680).
Last month I bought the HTC Touch (a FANTASTIC machine, especially with HTC Home). But after the Treo, I still need a keyboard as its basically hard work to enter long messages, even with the SIP keyboard (plus TYTN II has 3G and GPS).
So I got my TYTN II 2 days ago and im not enjoying the exeperience, especially when compared to the Touch which was flawless for me. I find that the machine hangs, isnt that responsive, the sound level is much lower than the Touch (both ear and speaker) and while its supposed to be 2x as fast, it really isnt much faster than the Touch. It does have a better screen than the Touch and many other advantages, but none of these are critical for me. Plus I dont know anyone who uses video calling so I have noone to call with it!!!
But the worst part of the TYTN II is that its a MONSTER in both size and weight. Its like walking around with a brick in my pocket! For example, holding the phone while on a long call is very uncomfortable. I just dont like the form factor (actually I miss my Treos front facing keyboard).
So if you own a Touch, have a BT GPS device, can get by with wifi, and can get the hang of the on-board keyboard then I suggest you upgrade the ROM on the Touch and stick with it. Im sorry i didnt.
That said, now I own this device Im going to try to make it work for me and get used to it, or sell it!
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gogol said:
The thing that I dont like:
1. Takes a long time to fully charge from 10% to 100% ! More than 4 hours using USB connection.
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You mean USB cable connected to computer - it always was like that. Hermes was not different. If you use wall charger, it will get job done quicker.
3. Camera and video recording sucks on indoor situation (low light), but very good on outdoor.
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Well.. what else can you expect? This is a phone, not real camera, it would always suck in low light. But camera is still pretty good, as for phone - while in good light conditions, of course.
demione said:
how's the in-call voice quality & signal strength from the kaiser's qualcomm chip, compared to previous htc phones (fo example, ones which featured the TI omap chip)?
and also how's the gps? is it really that much worse than a sirfstar to the point where it would become unusable in a city with many tall buildings?
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Both are really good. I was impressed by call quality, really. In terms of GPS, IMHO there is also nothing to complain about...
hardware audio control
technillion said:
1. There is no default hardware button that allows you to change the Sound Volume at any time...like when/if you're somewhere quiet and the phone rings loudly or a reminder pops up loudly. Many devices have Vol Up & Down buttons on the side of the device that will let you do this but with the TyTN II you'll have to either use the default Volume control icon at the top of the screen (which is tough to get to using a finger) or use the HTC Touch panel - assuming you have it enabled in the Task Panel settings. You can however adjust the volume during a call using the thumb wheel--which is nice.
TEC
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Actually the jog dial on the side defaults to volume control when you are in a call or running (foreground) an app that has volume aspects, like Media Player or HTC Audio Manager. Agreed that there's no general audio control tho. You can install 3rd party apps to give you one-touch scheme changes - check the Hermes forum for apps like O2+ (DiStefano's cab collection is nice).
Problem after phone calls
There seems to be a problem with the Kaiser. After finishing a phone call on the Kaiser the backlight goes off and stays off and I cannot access the Start menu. I can access all other functions but backlight stays off and one still cant get into the Start menu from anywhere on the screen. I have to press the power off button quickly once and then wait a second, press it again to be able to access the start button or the light to come on. This is definitely a bug in the tytn II and I hope HTC is doing something about this.
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There seems to be a problem with the Kaiser. After finishing a phone call on the Kaiser the backlight goes off and stays off and I cannot access the Start menu. I can access all other functions but backlight stays off and one still cant get into the Start menu from anywhere on the screen. I have to press the power off button quickly once and then wait a second, press it again to be able to access the start button or the light to come on. This is definitely a bug in the tytn II and I hope HTC is doing something about this.
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No such problems with my Kaiser. Maybe some specific application is causing such behavior? Try uninstalling some of them, and check - but the best test would be hard reset and check on 'clean' ROM. If problem still persists - get the warranty replacement.
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No such problems with my Kaiser. Maybe some specific application is causing such behavior? Try uninstalling some of them, and check - but the best test would be hard reset and check on 'clean' ROM. If problem still persists - get the warranty replacement.
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This has already been reported and confirmed by a few people and happens when you have a password word set on the device. If no device password is set it works okay and you will not be affected. Workaround at the moment is not to set a password or press the power button again after a call to get the device back on.
Regards
Phil
strange, I have a password and do not experience this problem (thru 3 different AT&T roms). I'm happy to test it out on whichever rom exhibits the problem tho.
The problem only seems to exist on the official HTC ROM.
I have a Touch currently and I’m thinking of getting the Diamond. One of the many things I didn’t like about the Touch is how hard you have to press the screen. Does the Diamond screen have the same issue? Or is it more like the iPhone screen.
I have the 200mhz version of the Touch and I find it a bit sluggish sometimes. Although the Diamond has a 582mhz I’ve read a couple of reviews that state it’s sluggish at times, have you guys experienced this?
Thank you.
The screen is very responsive to my touch.
However, I have ran the application "Diamond Tweaks".
It allows you to change the sensitivity, and also has an option for TouchFlo3D speed.
Overall I barely notice any sluggishness unless I'm running many programs.
Either search the forum or google it, it's readily available.
intx said:
The screen is very responsive to my touch.
However, I have ran the application "Diamond Tweaks".
It allows you to change the sensitivity, and also has an option for TouchFlo3D speed.
Overall I barely notice any sluggishness unless I'm running many programs.
Either search the forum or google it, it's readily available.
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Do you know if the Diamond screen is as hard to press as the Touch screen?
I have them both. Diamond is a little more responsive to the touch but nothing earth shattering. Speed is about the same if you're running 6.1 on your Touch.
The resolution is where the upgrade comes in. If you put the Diamond side by side with the Touch, it's like comparing a standard TV with rabbit ears to a High Definition LCD...
Now, if all you're looking for is a fast phone and don't care too much about the screen resolution, go for a Touch 3G as this has been described as one of the fastest and most responsive WM phones ever.
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Do you know if the Diamond screen is as hard to press as the Touch screen?
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Have them both too, and too answer your question: NO, you dont have to press at all on the diamond, screen is much better then the touch, hope it helps.
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Do you know if the Diamond screen is as hard to press as the Touch screen?
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I actually think the difference is quite noticecable between the two.
On the diamond I can actually press very very lightly using my finger while on the Touch I found myself having to poke at it sometimes with the finger nail - but as compared to the iphone it's definitely not as sensitive as they are two different beasts in that regards.
I feel I should mention I have the US 3G Diamond from sprint, and yes it is extremely responsive, quite amazing actually.
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I have a Touch currently and I’m thinking of getting the Diamond. One of the many things I didn’t like about the Touch is how hard you have to press the screen. Does the Diamond screen have the same issue? Or is it more like the iPhone screen.
I have the 200mhz version of the Touch and I find it a bit sluggish sometimes. Although the Diamond has a 582mhz I’ve read a couple of reviews that state it’s sluggish at times, have you guys experienced this?
Thank you.
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I played with the touch(for a month) and own the Diamond for almost 6 month now.
They are on a totally different level. Everything is better on the Diamond, except the batts.
The screen is double in resolution compared to most phones out there, once you go Diamond VGA screen you cant go back.
Screen is very responsive and I must say after some quick tweaks under da hood you are looking at a very responsive screen and device.
You wont regret it for a second if you switch.
Greets.
Sergio PC said:
The screen is double in resolution compared to most phones out there, once you go Diamond VGA screen you cant go back..
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Not entirely true, I'd gladly turn in VGA for QVGA to speed things up really. And the new HTC Touch phones seem to be way more responsive than the first/older models.
That being said, I went from a HTC Touch (one of the first) to a HTC Diamond. The difference was indeed almost day and night (so to speak).
I've played with some newer Touch models, and it has improved quite a bit (or I just had a 'lucky' model which was very responsive). Still, the Diamond has a really nice Touchscreen.
Also the VGA is/was very nice (especially at the beginning), but now the lack of speed starts to annoy me.
Reason for me to start looking at the Touch 3G and the Asus P552w. Where the Asus is the preferred one at the moment since benchmarks (see here and here) show that little thing rocks.
And I've kinda lost faith in HTC and their Qualcomm drivers. That Asus phone really looks like it could be one of the fastest and smallest wm6.1 devices out there. But I can only tell you for sure once I've given it a testrun myself .
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To come back to the HTC Touch 3G speed compared to the Asus P552w, it could be nice to compare the following two benchmarks made by the same site:
HTC Touch 3G Benchmark (half way down)
Asus P552w Benchmark
As you can see in my profile my ROM version, so I don't know if I have one of the good HTC touch or not.
The screen on my Touch has weird colors on it and I'm wondering to get it fixed (my warranty runs out on Jan 7, 2009 so in 1 week) or should I do a hardware upgrade to the Diamond.
Why not get it fixed in warranty ánd perhaps get a Diamond? That way you at least have a good Touch you could sell or something.
Unless they give you a Diamond in exchange, but I very much doubt that.
Hello
wanted to get everyone's opinion to whats the best lock app for our phones. i have tried several and i have problems with a lot of them.
i really like phone buddy, but i find it uses too much memory and power.
pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked and i think i had a memory problem as well.
s2u2 is what i have used before and i do like it. but i had a problem with the volume on calls.
not sure if its something else im running.. im running the diamond2 g sensor and that may be it. or something else... not sure
help and suggesting would be great. i would like to find something i can use on my phone.
thanks
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pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked and i think i had a memory problem as well.
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pocketshield. best i've found, no impact on battery life and answering the phone is great. download the latest (they've been updating it alot) and turn off the shake wake up (gestures), light wakeup, center button, and stylus (so the only thing is slide down). i haven't had it wake up unexpectedly with those settings.
i tried s2u2 along time ago, but have heard from multiple sources that it negatively influenced battery life. anyone know if this is still true?
i liked pocketshield a lot but like i said, i turned the phone off so it would lock, as soon as i turned the phone on it would unlock without me fliping it or anything else.
the answer thing is nice but i like the slide to answer i already have. if it didnt disable that when i used the pocketshield one i would use it.
like i said, im not sure if something else if causing my issues.... i think i may uninstall the dimond2 g sensor.
still cant find any lock app that will work well.... sensorlock and glocker dont work at all. and pocketshield works for a short time but stops. not sure if its cause you have to pay for it. i would pay for it if it worked for a while with no problems. dont wanna pay for it and have the same problems.
any ideas?
S2U2
try using S2U2 fully configurable and if done right does not use up battery.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
I use S2U2. Doesn't affect my battery life
using S2U2 with tPro skin... nice
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try using S2U2 fully configurable and if done right does not use up battery.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
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S2U2 is my favorite.
On a fast ROM (Like most of the ROM's on our forums), the program runs smoothly and nice.
I also like being able to pick pictures of my dog, or my bike, for the screens.
But my best practice for locking the phone is simply lock it out of habit when you put it away. Have "Slide to wake" disabled unless you really use it.
pocketshield for me, i had a few issues in the earlier releases but the newest is absolutely perfect, and pretty much everything is configurable to how i like it! seriously try the new one out and play in the settings to tweak it
Just use the new vertion of S2u2 together with the new skin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467435
Works without problem. and looks good.
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pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked...
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Maybe you have "light unlock" enabled and it is unlocking before you even notice it? (actually its the way it should be if you enable that feature)
has anyone tried throttle lock ? it has a slide to answer when you recieve calls while locked and it unlocks by drawing a pattern on a 3X3 grid of dots . Its a real nice app and has at least 35 different skins and is customizable. (customizing is rather arduous and takes awhile to do when it comes to making a new skin)
can anybody help me find Phone Buddy? i was trying to search it and i am not getting an conclusive results. The only thread that cmae up with anything is this thread....
S2U works just fine on my TP with stock rom, no negative battery impact noticable.
It seems all locking programs seem to have their own 'locked screen' that goes over the today screen. I have customized my today screen to have all the information i need at a glance and don't need another one.
I think Touchlock Pro is the only recent one that does not have this but I have other issues with it. Are there others I have missed?
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It seems all locking programs seem to have their own 'locked screen' that goes over the today screen. I have customized my today screen to have all the information i need at a glance and don't need another one.
I think Touchlock Pro is the only recent one that does not have this but I have other issues with it. Are there others I have missed?
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I'm using AnswerkeysDisabler which locks the touch screen completely when a call comes in. Answering is only with the hardware keys. It's simple - no home screens, no swinging the phone around in circles to answer or anything Just plain works (as touch pro has those HW keys).
I found it from here somewhere - try it.
I use sensor lock. It's great! You can use phone gestures with the accelerometer to unlock your phone. For example, you can rotate your phone 360º to lock/unlock it.
Here is the app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
I have a problem where when I have an incoming call it is slide to answer, not push to answer (hardware and touchscreen buttons) like it used to be. It also disabled the hardware buttons so I can't even answer with the hardware answer button. I'm using the latest EnergyROM and I believe that included a slide to answer change for incoming calls. I've searched google and the forums and the only things I find are people WANTING the slide to answer dialer, not like me trying to get rid of it. This wouldn't be a huge problem except for the fact that slide to answer does NOT work for me. For it to work I have to have the phone perfectly level and even then sliding it to answer works maybe 30% of the time if I'm lucky.
I love EnergyROM (yes I also posted in the official thread, my question was overlooked) and I would love to keep it but a phone should be able to answer calls. If anyone can tell me how to change the dialer without changing the ROM I would appreciate it!
you can use advanced config and change to the default dialer skin
Thanks!
That was a surprisingly simple solution, I haven't ever really used advanced config, thank you for pointing that out.
lol nice , what build are you running , it seems to have worked its self out recently for me atleast .
EnergyROM 'Mercury' (SYS 23009) Built on July 29th
^That one, although I didn't flash mine on July 29th, so I see there have been almost weekly revisions, I got mine sometime in July, so probably one of the earlier ones.
For it to work I have to have the phone perfectly level and even then sliding it to answer works maybe 30% of the time if I'm lucky.
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Well, maybe, try to calibrate the screen... Or adjust screen pressure threshold...
hey guys,
im looking for the most efficient program or tweak that will run in the background and do the typical things g-sensors do, like rotate the screen, turn off the screen during a call, or silence calls when turning the phone on its face.
Let me know if yuo guys have any ideas.
Thanks,
Anish88
Isn't it doing it anyway? I'm not using a program and the things u said are still working.
i think Gyrator 2 can help u to rotate screen every where!!
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Isn't it doing it anyway? I'm not using a program and the things u said are still working.
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wow really? i installed touch incall screen tweak to turn off the screen when the phone is to my ear but the rotation thing does happen and i cant silence a call when i turn it upside down.
FYI touch incall screen tweak is AWESOME.
but if you know how to activate these things without installing apps please let me know. I am using NFSFAN's 6.5.3 rom.
Thanks,
Anish88
yeah they just work, i have it for like 2 months now and im with the latest original rom of htc and works, before that was with energy rom but i dont know if it worked then, because i changed it very fast to have better battery performance. maybe advanced configuration has some options like that?
I would like to know how to do these things too.
anish88 said:
wow really? i installed touch incall screen tweak to turn off the screen when the phone is to my ear but the rotation thing does happen and i cant silence a call when i turn it upside down.
FYI touch incall screen tweak is AWESOME.
but if you know how to activate these things without installing apps please let me know. I am using NFSFAN's 6.5.3 rom.
Thanks,
Anish88
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Glad you like my Touch Incall Screen Tweak (TICST) - you might want to take a look at ChangeScreen for your rotation needs. I must admit, I thought that mute on face down was standard behaviour? If not, maybe it's specific to the dialer?
Cheers,
Steve.