Hi all,
I don't like the feature that a word at the beginning of a sentence will be capitalized automatically when writing an E-Mail or text message. Does anybody know how to switch that off? I know that there are some related settings in the input section, but these settings have no effect on my upper case problem.
I guess (hope) there is some registry setting. Does anybody know a solution?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: The reason why I hate this feature is that it works wrong for me. When I write an E-mail I start like:
Hello blabla,
how are you today? ...
actually the "h" will be capitalized automatically which is wrong.
haven't found one yet (although haven't looked hard). If you undo straight after the capitalization the word returns to normal (although undo is pretty hard without a Ctrl key on the hardware keyboard).
foo said:
Hi all,
I don't like the feature that a word at the beginning of a sentence will be capitalized automatically when writing an E-Mail or text message. Does anybody know how to switch that off? I know that there are some related settings in the input section, but these settings have no effect on my upper case problem.
I guess (hope) there is some registry setting. Does anybody know a solution?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: The reason why I hate this feature is that it works wrong for me. When I write an E-mail I start like:
Hello blabla,
how are you today? ...
actually the "h" will be capitalized automatically which is wrong.
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The setting is in the soft keyboard options. Tap the little arrow next to your keyboard icon and see the options tab at the bottom.
Uncheck the box "Capitalize first letter of sentence"
This may not work on some extra keyboards/sips you install and may need immediate soft reset to make changes.
apprentice said:
Uncheck the box "Capitalize first letter of sentence"
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This setting is already unchecked but has no effect.
Did any of you guys ever manage to fix the Capitalisation issue?
I've just bought an HTC Touch Pro 2 and am having the same issue.
Checking or unchecking the box, warm reset, cold reset, nothing makes a difference.
I'm someone who IS very much bothered buy auto-capitalisation, and so would appreciate any help anyone can offer.
Cheers.
Yup, have the same problem since I got this phone last year! I searched back and forth, up and down and NOBODY knew a solution so far. And I guess, not so many are bothered by this crap either...!
Some say its windows fault... BUT even in word (windows) we can DISABLE this crap... and why is it there to UNcheck if it does not work??? So this is definately a fault... from SE or MS, I don't care... just fix it...make it work as it is suppose to (unchecking means DISABLED!!!!)!!!!!!!!!!
If you find a solution, please share here. But frankly, I don't think there is a registry solution for this. So until SE or MS are really acknowledging this and fix it, there won't be a 'real unchecking' of this crapppppp!
Unbelievable, eh?
Reading other forums on the same topic I see that people all miss the point. Some people love auto capitalisation, which is fine and fair and good for them, while others - like us - hate it. It should up to the USER to decide whether or not they want it, not the manufacturer, and not other forum users either!
I too am at a total loss to find any solution. let's keep this thread alive, and anyone who finds anything at all that might help please do post.
Thanks.
i don't have any resolution to offer. sorry.
but i am another confused end user, highly bothered by this automatic capitalization setting. i share the ineffectual setting problem.
however i do have some good news. i'm running the newest NFSFAN ROM 6.5, and the setting actually does take effect in the ROMs custom text message input field. in all other text input fields, it doesn't.
if anyone can help us, it has to be NFSFAN, NFSFAN ROM's developer.
foo said:
P.S.: The reason why I hate this feature is that it works wrong for me. When I write an E-mail I start like:
Hello blabla,
how are you today? ...
actually the "h" will be capitalized automatically which is wrong.
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Not in English and formatted like that it's not
I'm one of the ones that doesn't mind it. 99% of the time it's right for me. I always E-mail and SMS with full words no shortcuts and it saves me an extra tap when starting a new sentence, whether the new sentence follows a full stop on the same line of comes after a full stop and then I move to a new line.
It definitely wont turn off on mine either though.
Steve_TLS said:
Not in English and formatted like that it's not
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Capital letter after a comma?
orelsi said:
Capital letter after a comma?
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I did say in that format...
Right
Hello Steve,
How are....
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Wrong
Hello Steve,
how are blah blah..
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It's not an English lesson, but it's right more times than it is wrong. (When typing correctly).
Got it!
Well right or wrong... I found the solution.
There are two files located in the windows directory, that are responsible for auto-capitalization:compose_sms.htm (used when composing text/sms)
compose_note.htm (used when composing email)As the extension already indicates, these files are really html files.
You have to edit these files and remove every occurrence of the word "autocap" within. I used total commander for the job (it comes with an integrated notepad).
After I saved the files I had no more auto-capitalization. (It's not even necessary to do a reset)
P.S.: You should do a backup of the two files before editing them, just in case you mess something up.
Good job!
Pity the tick just doesn't work properly.
It's not because of the comma that you get the capital letter. It's because of the line break.
By the way.
Hello xxxxxx,
I was wondering what...
Is correct as far as I am aware. Every letter I get from anywhere has a capital letter in the first paragraph.
Matt1408 said:
It's not because of the comma that you get the capital letter. It's because of the line break.
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Yes, that's right, but there are other situations like using abbreviations (followed by a punctuation mark) in sentences where autocap fails.
Matt1408 said:
By the way.
Hello xxxxxx,
I was wondering what...
Is correct as far as I am aware. Every letter I get from anywhere has a capital letter in the first paragraph.
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The orthography varies of course in different languages. In German language it is a rule to start the first sentence lower case after a salutation followed by a comma. If I used an exclamation point, which is also valid after the salutation, I have to start the next sentence upper case.
In other words:
Hallo Herr Bla,
danke für Ihre Bla Bla...
is correct in German language but might be wrong in English language.
Thanks... YOU are THE MAN !!!
foo said:
Well right or wrong... I found the solution.
There are two files located in the windows directory, that are responsible for auto-capitalization:compose_sms.htm (used when composing text/sms)
compose_note.htm (used when composing email)As the extension already indicates, these files are really html files.
You have to edit these files and remove every occurrence of the word "autocap" within. I used total commander for the job (it comes with an integrated notepad).
After I saved the files I had no more auto-capitalization. (It's not even necessary to do a reset)
P.S.: You should do a backup of the two files before editing them, just in case you mess something up.
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This is brilliant work! Thanks a lot and it WORKS! Just changed it and now this stupid auto cap is gone!!! Since this is a Read Only File, it should stay like that too!
Actually I don't know any language where one writes a Capital letter (except in english the 'I')! So this is just crap and an oversight from MS that this cannot be changed even though its UNchecked in settings!
This autocap was also capitalizing when just pressing the ENTER key and a new line was started, no matter if there was a Period or a Comma!!!!!
Thanks again from all of us who suffered from this...until now!
First up, as the guy who started this thread 100 years ago, my apologies for not being a part of it lately. I've been away.
Secondly, a thousand thanks to Foo for the HTML solution, which I'll try immediately.
Does this solution also stop auto full-stop (auto period in the US!) as well? No one in the thread has yet mentioned the REALLY infuriating feature: type two spaces and you automatically get a full stop and then auto captialisation as well. At least you do on my TP2!
There's certainly no harm in a healthy discussion about what is or is not correct punctuation (although this isn't really the right forum for that), but the truth is we're all free to spell and punctuate however we want, and it's not the place of any software or hardware designer to tell us how we should do that. If I choose to spell the word "Individual" with three Zs, a silent Q and a fullstop in the midle, that's my choice and the software should allow me to do so!
An hour later, and an update on my progress with Foo's HTLM fix:
The fix has eliminated Autocapitalisation after voluntary fullstops, for which a HUGE THAK YOU
However, it hasn't cured the "double-space = auto fullstop and auto capitalisation" issue. Does anyone have ideas on removing that one?
Cheers.
compse_*.htm in ROM and immutable?
I've just upgraded to an official WM6.5 release on my Touch Diamond 2, and have encountered the same annoying problem with first letter capitalization staying on despite the user visible configuration setting.
I've found the \Windows directory compose_*.htm files, with the 'autocap' flags in them .. but on my device these compose_*.htm files appear to be in ROM and immutable. I can't change their permissions to make them non-hidden and/or non-readonly, and I can't delete, edit or overwrite them.
Any ideas, or am I "Stuck" Capitalizing The First Letter Wherever Microsoft Though It Was A Good Idea? Heh.
Thanks!
Jay
foo said:
Well right or wrong... I found the solution.
There are two files located in the windows directory, that are responsible for auto-capitalization:compose_sms.htm (used when composing text/sms)
compose_note.htm (used when composing email)As the extension already indicates, these files are really html files.
You have to edit these files and remove every occurrence of the word "autocap" within. I used total commander for the job (it comes with an integrated notepad).
After I saved the files I had no more auto-capitalization. (It's not even necessary to do a reset)
P.S.: You should do a backup of the two files before editing them, just in case you mess something up.
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This doesn't work for me. There is no data in these files that says "autocap", it's just a general template for SMS and Email messages.
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Can you please provide a solution to this problem? I have several soft keyboards (SIPs) and every time I go to select one, I have to wait ten seconds for the keyboard list to appear (pop-up). I click on the little arrow next to the right of the keyboard icon and the list of soft keyboards shows up 8-10 seconds later. PLEASE HELP…
I've seen others post some sort of fix for this. It involves removing some software or something like that. Do a search on something like keyboard list or SIP list.
Wait, I just found the thread. You started that thread also and an answer was supplied. Why did you start a new thread? Did that not work? Even so, why not just keep posting in that one? What the hell? Is it a hobby of yours to open new threads to just keep asking the same question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342727&highlight=keyboard+list
EDIT: Dude! This is the 3rd time you opened a thread and asked the same question!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342320&highlight=keyboard+list
Each time you got an answer with no response from you!
Thanks For Nothing…
I saw it however the solution wasn’t saying why it works. Anyway, THANKS TO YOU, I followed that solution and now all my soft keyboards are gone. The only keyboard I see in the list is the default built-in keyboard. You killed my Tilt, it doesn’t even function after a soft reset. THANKS FOR NOTHING…
Originally Posted by RemE
Here's the answer from the same question yesturday;
How to reduce soft keyboard pop-up delay?
I have added two soft keyboards to my AT&T Tilt and when I try to select them by clicking on the up arrow next to the keyboard icon; it takes ~8 seconds for the keyboard list to appear. How can I reduce this time by modifying a registry key?
As I read in a forum,using a Registry Editor go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT and export CLSID.
Delete CLSID and then run the file you exported before (CLSID.reg).It will ask if you want to import the file and you press "Yes".
Don't know why it works because it's the same thing, but it works!
And opening the same exact thread every other day was your response? maybe if you dialoged with the person, you'd get some feedback.
And apparently others have gotten it to work just fine. You are the only person who's "Tilt got Kilt" by this.
Any time you decide to mess with the Registry, you know the possible consequences. Blaming me or anyone else for your mistake is LAUGHABLE. A hard reset will basically allow you to do over. So your phone isn't dead, as you want to have us believe. And then you will say, I didn't have a backup. And somehow, that also will be our fault. People like you make people not want to provide help.
z_zk_z said:
I saw it however the solution wasn’t saying why it works. Anyway, THANKS TO YOU, I followed that solution and now all my soft keyboards are gone. The only keyboard I see in the list is the default built-in keyboard. You killed my Tilt, it doesn’t even function after a soft reset. THANKS FOR NOTHING…
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Ha, sorry you lost your keyboards, the saying I like most on this forum is "If you can't take the heat, stay out of the ROM Kitchen".
If you delete that registry entry and NOT restore it correctly I would guess that something like this would happen. You must follow instructions exactly and even then things can happen. I use Spb backup and keep my PPC backed up after EVERY successuful addition to the phone. If I screw up, I would restore back to the previous step. I haven't needed to yet and I've changed something on this Kaiser almost every day for 2 months now.
So don't whine to us, be responsible for you own data when you modify your toys like the rest of us or go play somewhere else
Ok, so when I used to start typeing a contacts name in the 'to' field of message, it would give me a list of names or numbers after putting in a few letters or numbers. Now I have to put in a couple letters/numbers and then go to check name. Anyone have any idea how i turned this off.
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Ok, so when I used to start typeing a contacts name in the 'to' field of message, it would give me a list of names or numbers after putting in a few letters or numbers. Now I have to put in a couple letters/numbers and then go to check name. Anyone have any idea how i turned this off.
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try this:
u want to send sms to Johny, start typing to the name field "Jo" and then push the space bar on your keyboard, an option of the possible names should pop up at the bottom.
Mikulec said:
try this:
u want to send sms to Johny, start typing to the name field "Jo" and then push the space bar on your keyboard, an option of the possible names should pop up at the bottom.
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ok, now I feel a bit retarded, don't remember doing that before, but guess it was. Thanks.
Have loaded any new touch keyboards to your device. For me, that feature will stop working after I add any new keyboards. It will come back for a bit after a soft reset, but then it goes away again. Once I remove the offending keyboard, then it works again... I wish I could have both.
I have a similar problem if I use large title bar. When its loaded, the roller wheel on the side no longer controls call volume... Again, wish I had both!
GreenLantern said:
ok, now I feel a bit retarded, don't remember doing that before, but guess it was. Thanks.
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u r welcome, I feel retarded most of the time.
GreenLantern said:
ok, now I feel a bit retarded, don't remember doing that before, but guess it was. Thanks.
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You should't have to enter a space to get the options. It should appear as your typing.
As mentioned above if you installed a keyboard from another device, such as the Touch or Diamond, with T9/XT9 you will lose this auto complete and word suddgestion. There is a disable XT9 cab witch will give you the auto complete and word suddgestion back, but cause the non defult keyboards to enter number only, no letters. it that is the case you have to decide witch is more important to you.
Did you install another keyboard? or did it just stop working as it had?
I will agree that the Installation of Customer SIPs like PCMKeyboard or something else will interfere with this..
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You should't have to enter a space to get the options. It should appear as your typing.
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yes, but its the workoround if u have installed other sips. I dont hyave this isue and have resco keybord installed, so that one is not causing the issue.
Mikulec said:
yes, but its the workoround if u have installed other sips. I dont hyave this isue and have resco keybord installed, so that one is not causing the issue.
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Correct, but I was just replying to him saying:
ok, now I feel a bit retarded, don't remember doing that before, but guess it was. Thanks"
because he shouldn't feel stupid, because he did't have to do it previously.
Hey guys. I just recently updated my Tilt to Dutty's latest wm 6.1 WWE (4/28/08) & radio 65.14.06. The problem I'm having isn't the standard tilt keyboard fix or a cleartype issue (I've seen someone post this type of question before only to have the Cleartype solve it). My problem is when i type in a document or even a sms (anything that involves the keyboard) it seems like my thumbs are moving faster than what I'm trying to type. Its rather frustrating. Here's an example since I'm typing this on my Tilt anyways:
Red foxes jumpedt he river bed only to finda wolf hiding int he bushes. He atet hem oneb y one.
Besides my lame story skills, you can see what my problem is. The really weird part is that when i do force myself to type slowly, the text will even "AutoCorrect" itself (i.e. Ate them = atet hem) to look misspelled/fractured. Also, my backspace button likes to choose not to work, turning itself into Delete when it wants to (but no other buttons are affected). Any ideas or cabs I haven't come across yet?
Also, the auto correct hardly works as it is. It won't provide apostrophes where needed.
Thanks for everything guys!
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
JimmyMcGee said:
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
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Nice color Jimmy. When someone will ask this question next time, can u use blue one please?
PS:And a bigger font size.
JimmyMcGee said:
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
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Doesn't work. No, really, I had this issue before it was installed and still have it now.
Option 1:go to setting---input---Word Completion---Clear stored entries. This will delete all the incorrect words which have been remembered by the phone. After that, try to type slowly.
Option 2: Disable the Auto Correct function
See if that helps.
Which version of HardSPL do you have installed?
Try installing one of the latest ones or see in the ROM thread which one the chef recommends.
Hi Guys
Im loving my XDA Ignito (removed o2 Rom, now just like a HTC Diamond)
The contacts are displayed "surname, first name" this is soooo frustrating !! Please please could somebody help me convert my contacts to "first name, surname" I have roughly 220 numbers.
Thanks
Adam
Change the "File As" field in each contact. You might be able to do this in Outlook too.
umm... why is this such a problem?!?
are people too stupid to remember a surname?
my friend, when you only have 10 friends, as you must with responses like that, it probably isn't.
On the other hand when you have several Samantha's and such on the phone it can be.
So I would still appreciate some help please.
Cheers
fair enough, but i find it easier to go by surname (and i have many Chris' for example, and it is easier just to go to the one person with that one surname than scroll thru loads of Chris' to find the one with the right surname?!!?!?!?!
i think you will find that ur answer does not make sense.
and on this n00bish argument, there are fricking hundreds of threads about this, so sorry if i'm starting to get pissed off with the question.
Just use the smart dial feature, i have exactly the same problem as you, but i cannot/will not sit there and edit, in my case 286 contacts because microsoft is stupid.
i mean really, if they can file them the wrong way round, surely there is an option to file them correctly, i have been saying this since WM5!!!
NOTHING WILL GET DONE, and i dont think it will
Sorry, guess with frickin hundreds of threads on this there must be frickin hundreds of other people who aren't quite as clever at remembering surnames as you.
Thanks for the help.
Am I talking to myself? Edit the contact and change the File As. All my contacts are firstname lastname.
indeed.
there is no answer to this, most people with technology are used to it.
only Nokia 3310 still have first name first.
why dont u just type the name in one line?
Ruffage, I did try this but unfortunately "file as" only give me one option, i.e. "Smith;John/1"
mugglesquop - Have you nothing better to do than waste my time & yours by writing useless sh*t... F*ck off
usless sh*t??
i told you there is no way of changing them all (AFAIK, and i have read a lot of threads on this)
i also told you a way of storing contacts in the way that you want for future use.
useless?
There must be a way of doing this!!
Also if I do what you said for the future, then I would have half my contacts "firstname, surname" & half "surname, first name" how confusing would that be??
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Ruffage, I did try this but unfortunately "file as" only give me one option, i.e. "Smith;John/1"
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Hmm your contacts are messed up then. I get the choice of both ways to display. Perhaps the name is in one field only in Outlook? Can't check here as I'm not at home atm.
When i go to the properties of the contact, there is only a "Name Field" not a First & Last name field.... hmm ?
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When i go to the properties of the contact, there is only a "Name Field" not a First & Last name field.... hmm ?
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It displays like that by default, but there should be a drop down arrow at the right hand side of the Name field and, if you tap that, it'll pop up a further box which shows how the name is actually formatted with the fields Title, First, Middle, Last, Nickname and Suffix.
I changed all my contacts such that only the First name field was populated and had their entire name in there (i.e. "First: John Smith") and that means they all come out as you want with their first name displayed before their last name. That doesn't really help you too much though because you'd have to manually reformat all your contacts which is annoying I know.
Medulla, thanks for that!
I suppose I will just have to spend an hour doing it...
use smartdial or use contact search! why would you want to scroll through a 200 people contactlist?
Thom4s said:
use smartdial or use contact search! why would you want to scroll through a 200 people contactlist?
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to show off that he has sooo many contacts apparently
i have to use the recent call list far too many people otherwise
This isnt just me showing off how many people i have in my phonebook (as you say) its obvisouly a common problem otherwise there wouldnt be so many posts about it.
Anyway, it was my old phone what f*cked it up, instead of "first" or "last" name it only put it under "name", so spent an hour or so editing them... now spot on. Also under stand the "file as" now too.
Thanks for all your help (or not for some people)
Cheers
Adam
Hey all,
Got my new diamond. Love it to bits. Only one bit that's started to drive me round the bend. There must be a solution somewhere.....
I was quite pleased to see the text message conversation feature - you know the one where you can type beneath a text you've recieved to reply and reffer to the previous text as you're doing so, also if you scroll up you'll see your whole convo with that contact. Nice feature....
However:
The window for replying in is SO SMALL that I can't actually read what I'm typing. I get almost the lenght of a whole letter in it so i can kind of read a few words but scrolling is impossible.
The scroll up and down arrows are right next to each other.
It's highly impractical and almost impossible to use. Worst when keyboard and T9 are activated.
Anyone know how to fix this?
I tried clicking on the black divider line between the original message and the reply you're typing and dragging it up.
No luck....
All help greatfully recieved (doubtless I'm missing something?)
There is a solution (have you searched?)
You need to edit thread_sms.htm in the windows folder. You'll need to use Total Commander to edit the file because it's a protected ROM file.
Or just use the newer, smaller keyboards that are just as practical and take less of the screen.
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Or just use the newer, smaller keyboards that are just as practical and take less of the screen.
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Not sure which keyboards you mean but it won't help since the reply section of the page is a fixed height. Altering it so that you can see more than one line of the reply can be very useful.
On the subject of keyboards, I want to recommend TouchPal (again) - not only is the keypad resizable (by dragging), it has better T9 input and the word candidates don't stick up above the top of the keyboard. This means the window resizing works properly and it doesn't have the bug on tapping the screen when selecting a candidate in Opera.
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Not sure which keyboards you mean...
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I think he's referring to new the keyboard in the 2.00.421.1 Diamond ROM image. pistonripper has cooked a custom, lightweight version.
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There is a solution (have you searched?)
You need to edit thread_sms.htm in the windows folder. You'll need to use Total Commander to edit the file because it's a protected ROM file.
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Yep searched google repeatedly before I came here. Figured google would turn results up from here but hey, could just be my dyslexia. Thanks for the help. I'll see what I can find on here about total commander and thread_sms.htm to figure it out.
Wish me luck
Thanks a lot guys! That solved it I REALLY appreciate the help.
If anyone else has the same problem it's as the guys said: google 'total commander pda' get the .cab file from their site (you want the Pocket PC one obviously).
Install it by popping it on your diamond and clicking it on file explorer.
Then use the file menu to search for 'thread_sms.htm'
When it shows up click the edit button (first icon, the one to the right of the word 'show' bit of paper with a pen next to it).
I changed the height on one of the lines contained 'composesubject' and width 98% from 35 up to 70. Saved and went back into sms.
Tada.
Beutiful three lines.
Thanks again to all who helped and search for thread_sms.htm on this site if you need more help as a lot of the guys have solved it.
Lastly for the google folks here are a few words that might help them find this:
diamond sms window screen too small one line tiny conversation text message reply can't read
Nice one