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Uses for front-Facing camera

I have the Kaiser on its way. This is my first device with a front-facing camera. previously had the ATT 8525. Is there any other use for the front-facing camera other than with 3G video calling? Can it be used with messenger or skype or for anything else?

GermanGuy said:
I have the Kaiser on its way. This is my first device with a front-facing camera. previously had the ATT 8525. Is there any other use for the front-facing camera other than with 3G video calling? Can it be used with messenger or skype or for anything else?
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Well with the TyTn it was possible to use the front camera with the Coolcamera application - for such things as a webcam etc, But, I think I read somwhere here that there is a problem with coolcamera and the Kaiser.
Perhaps someone can confirm (or not) that this is the case.
Mike

I read about that same problem in Pauls review thread on MoDaCo. I was wondering the same thing, what can the front cam do for us in the USA?
For starters, the built-in camera app does let you select the front cam "Camera 2" for stills and it lets you flip the image as well , so no need for a mirror on the back like my 8525 had.
Hopefully there will be a way to use it for video conferencing at some point.

RemE said:
I read about that same problem in Pauls review thread on MoDaCo. I was wondering the same thing, what can the front cam do for us in the USA?
For starters, the built-in camera app does let you select the front cam "Camera 2" for stills and it lets you flip the image as well , so no need for a mirror on the back like my 8525 had.
Hopefully there will be a way to use it for video conferencing at some point.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329502
this report I found to be a step backward (??) in term of video conferencing ??

I don't know, a face is a face. I just checked this bug out using the camera app, Very Interesting!;
I set it to Camera2, my face was a mirror image, I held a text card and yes the text was reversed.
I set it to Camera2 Flipped, my face was "normal", text was readable.
Here's what's ODD, in the Camera2 setting, if I "barrel rolled" rotated the camera 360 degrees while watching the monitor, My face was always upright!
If I set it to "Camera2 Flip" and rotated the camera, my image rotates upside down as the camera rotates.
That's different!

Second camera and portrait

Hello,
I tried to use the MS portrait but by default it selects the first camera not the secondary front facing. In options there is only one camera listed, whats the solution to this?
Thank you.

What are you tring to do? There is camera software for winmo phones that is great for using different cams and stuff here it is http://www.ateksoft.com/

If you haven't tried ComVu PocketCaster, I highly recommend it.
www.comvu.com or www.pocketcaster.com

I'm trying to use MSN messanger/portrait with the front facing camera?

You got portrait to work on the Kaiser? With me it always throws an error.
What version did you install?

beta, 3.1 but its using the main camera, not the front camera.

HI,
I recently bought HTC tytn II. My main purpose to buy this powerfull device is Voice chat and Video chat...
Please let me know the performance of MS portrait on tytn II... can we do voice chat smoothly?????

My experience of MS Portrait on my Kaiser is not very good.
It only seems to work with other versions of Portrait for voice or video and not with Live Messenger.
IM text chat to PC Live Messenger works just as well as "Mobile" Live Messenger to PC Live Messenger, and I stil get incoming Hotmail notifications.
Video, even over wifi LAN, was poor to non existent in my experience.
The only Camera it will work with is the rear facing camera, I tried setting up the forward facing camera in the camera app and then going into the settings for Portrait but still only the rear facing camera works.
I havent tried a 3g Video Phone call so I have no idea how well the Kaiser copes with the demands of 2 way video and audio processing and data transfer, but as far as portrait goes technically it works as a proof of concept but is far from being usable. Portrait is only beta software so there is hope for future improvements. Cool Camera and Webcam Plus, both from Ateksoft, were mentioned earlier but are not currently compatible with the Kaiser.
I have read somewhere that HTC have not released the full APIs for the cameras. I guess this will hinder 3rd party development.

Accessing the QCIf video camera directly in software

Does anyone know if it's possible to access the forward-facing video camera via software oneself, even if the Video Call feature is not available on your network ? I work for at a hospital and as a "pet project" ( telemedicine ) one of the doctors who has a Kaiser would like to be able to video conference in with the forward facing camera. I would like to pursue this ( and I just might get a Kaiser for myself in the process..hint..hint ), and am curious if anyone has attempted to access the QCIF camera directly.
Any suggestions will be welcomed. Thank you.

Yes
open the camera application, the open the camera menu. (little bar below in the screen) lower line in the middle shows camera, press this button and the camera switch to the forward camera...
And if you want the front camera to start up by default, I scanned the registry and you should change the following:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE --> software --> HTC --> Camera --> common
change the value of activecameraID from 1 to 2, voila front camera will start first.
offtopic: did anyone tried this already with an voip program and videovoiping? going to check it right away... Because it always starts the rear camera...
cheers

It doesn't work with MS Portrait
I have emailed MS regarding updates to Portrait and compatibility with front facing cameras. They replied saying they are aware of the Camera issue and that they would notify me of any updates.
I am not holding my breath... MS updates are few and far between compared to the rate of development achieved by some of the geniuses on here.

Thanks but....
Thanks for the replies, but I meant programmatically. I'm not trying to take pictures. I want to know where I can find information about how to programmatically access the camera, for a custom application that would run over 3G which would both stream video to the display, and capture and stream video out of the QCIF ....just as if the video call feature were available, but for networks where this is not possible.
As I said, this is for supporting a telemedicine application, that would allow the doctor to interact with a patient at bedside, when they are not physcially present.

For an application that would allow the video conferencing, you might want to consider MeBeam (www.mebeam.com). It's a flash based site that allows you to video conference with up to eight other people. I'm not sure if their flash application will be able to detect your hardware, but it's worth a shot.

[Q] front camera video calls??

Hey guys...does anyone knows how to make videocalls using the front camera like on yahoo for example??
Thanx for advance

Froyo doesn't support using the front camera for video calls. Wait for the Gingerbread update.

Got it... thank you so much bro

It supports 3G video calls, but I don't think that's supported in the US.

Does recording from front and back camera work simultaneously?

t technically should have the hardware but software support is very finicky among manufacturers.
Can someone help me test with this app? You should be able to see both front and rear views.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bagestudio.doublesidecamera&hl=en_SG

melvinfoo said:
t technically should have the hardware but software support is very finicky among manufacturers.
Can someone help me test with this app? You should be able to see both front and rear views.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bagestudio.doublesidecamera&hl=en_SG
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Not working for me. The app only lets one camera feed come through at a time, if I switch the camera with the on-screen button it will switch but then freeze the other camera that I switched from. I couldn't get both to display at the same time.