Receiving my Diamond shortly, what tweaks etc should I apply? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Should be receiving my Diamond Monday. The information on the site is somewhat overwhelming lol. Anyone recommend essential tweaks, applications etc. Thanks!

I'm in the same situation as you.... will receive my Diamond next week and have been reading for 2 days everywhere on the net but mainly here... still i have some questions like you? mayby iäm slow or something ;-) Hope you don't mind me asking some Newbie questions here too...
- If i decide to use to official Rom in my phone can i tweak my phone to the same performance as when i use for example Duttys rom? if the answer is Yes the next question is whats the difference then if i add all the programs to?
(Scared of bricking my new Juwel) ;-)
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
Hope that you don't have anything against that i hijacked your thread abit plbe if so let me know and i will remove the questions. Just that i'm sure many people here allready know the answers to our questions and i don't want to use more space than nessesarry ...
Thanks!

plbe said:
Should be receiving my Diamond Monday. The information on the site is somewhat overwhelming lol. Anyone recommend essential tweaks, applications etc. Thanks!
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Centin said:
I'm in the same situation as you.... will receive my Diamond next week and have been reading for 2 days everywhere on the net but mainly here... still i have some questions like you? mayby iäm slow or something ;-) Hope you don't mind me asking some Newbie questions here too...
- If i decide to use to official Rom in my phone can i tweak my phone to the same performance as when i use for example Duttys rom? if the answer is Yes the next question is whats the difference then if i add all the programs to?
(Scared of bricking my new Juwel) ;-)
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
Hope that you don't have anything against that i hijacked your thread abit plbe if so let me know and i will remove the questions. Just that i'm sure many people here allready know the answers to our questions and i don't want to use more space than nessesarry ...
Thanks!
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very simple
install Diamond Tweak program
allmost all Tweaks in costom roms in this program
and you can turn it on or off.
have fun guys and merry christmas

Ok,
Centin said:
-could someone point out the benefits/downsides with keeping official rom vs a custom one.
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Well, the official ROM is usually somewhat slower and could have some 'problems' diamond users experience. Although sometimes an official update is available which could solve some stuff.
The main advantage of using a custom rom is that it's pre-tweaked. Has some tweaks you cannot get unless you flash a new ROM (so the tweaks are in the ROM itself). Take a different pagepool for example. Try and do a search about what that it.
Usually a new ROM also combines a set of the newest software from HTC. So the newest keyboard app from another HTC update, the new TouchFlo from somewhere else. And that combined gives you the latest software and tweaks.
Also, when you dont like touchflo 3d for example, there are custom roms that have removed that. And perhaps remove all other 'extra' software as well. Those are the so called 'light' roms. Those give you max memory and max speed (if possible) at the cost of less applications running thus removing certain functions. You can then add those functions as you please. So you don't end up with a phone that has stuff for 20 things, while you would only need 8 or something (just a random example).
In the case of the TouchFlo3D, if you dont like that and want something else as your today screen you want to get rid of it to free up some memory!
In all my experience with a lot of HTC phones, the 'best' roms were always custom ones. But it's getting harder and harder to see what's good and what's not. As you have probably seen already there are a lot of roms out there for the Diamond. I can only suggest you go and read what the differences seem to be between the roms.
Also read the comments on the roms and try to get some understanding of the changes made to the different versions.
Try to remember though (and this is always the nasty part) you can remove your warranty by flashing another ROM. Also (with the diamond in rare cases) you could 'brick' your phone. Which is no more than a failed update which makes your device unusable. I must say, with the Diamond that almost seems impossible when you just flash normal custom roms. But the 'risk' is always there in some way.
Read about the correct hard spl when you want to flash (need that one before you can flash a new rom, the hard spl unlocks your phone for custom roms). That would be the first step anyway.
And well, after all this info which isn't a lot at all (but it is!) and might or might not help you, the ROM I use is: Duttys V3.6b Final, the 12mb pagepool version.
You can find it here.
Read the howto flash part! It's in the second post all the way below the changelogs.
Obviously everyone has their favourite rom they use, and they all say theirs is the best. So you should really find that out yourself.
In every rom thread you will find things like 'I tried a lot of roms, but yours is the best!'. Try em out yourself and let you be the judge of that. Just take some time to try them out and see what you think is important in a ROM.

Thanks... answered my questions
Thanks alot for your answers it made it all clear for me now... !!
Now i only have to wait for my diamond ... and i have to say this Forum makes the Diamond even more usefull and valuable...
Thanks again...

Is there a preferred custom ROM amongst users here? BTW, which tweak program are you referring to? I've seen quite a few on here? Thanks.

i would def load the "background on all tab pages" tweak...this allows you to have your Home wallpaper on all the other tab pages.

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In every rom thread you will find things like 'I tried a lot of roms, but yours is the best!'. Try em out yourself and let you be the judge of that. Just take some time to try them out and see what you think is important in a ROM.
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That's what I've been doing for the past couple of hours lol. Some of these threads are HUGE. I still cannot decide which one to try. Looking at the radio bits too. Also curious about landscape keyboard. From what I understand...keyboard is only available in portrait mode but there are some fixes for that?

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i would def load the "background on all tab pages" tweak...this allows you to have your Home wallpaper on all the other tab pages.
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Is that part of that Advanced Config application?

"What Custom Rom is the best" and "What tweaks should I use" are both very subjective so we don't allow them for this reason.
Best recommendation I (or anyone) can give is to read about the things you think you want to use and ask for clarification in those threads.

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I'm ready to upgrade my ROM: Where are they?

So, I'm ready to upgrade my rom, but where are they? I'm just having a really hard time finding any central list of reputable/stable ROMs...
One of my main motivations for even upgrading is the much-rumored camera enhancement... Anyway, I'd appreciate some info/links to some good ROMs
thanks
I guess you haven't read the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
RTFW
also there are several threads and stickys on rom here.... read read read
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RTFW
also there are several threads and stickys on rom here.... read read read
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. . . and, once you've read everything you need to know about upgrading/changing your ROM from the Wiki, you can find all the available Wizard ROMS on the ftp site.
But, DON'T FLASH UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!! That means READ, READ, READ . . . AND READ SOME MORE!!
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/
And don't bungee-jump your Wizard off your desk (causing the USB cable to unplug) during an upgrade!
..Just my two cents..
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And don't bungee-jump your Wizard off your desk (causing the USB cable to unplug) during an upgrade!
..Just my two cents..
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Bah! Builds character! Live a little!!
To be honest, I've read through almost all of the Wiki, and it's worthless. The links go to empty pages that need updating or have placeholder text.
Also, the FTP site works about 1/3 of the time
I've RTFM, but I need to know which ROM offers what benefit, etc. Also, I've read through the forum, but I've also noticed that 20 pages into a thread people start *****ing about the ROM either bricking their phone or screwing up major features (e.g. the latest Molski ROM mysteriously turning off the cell radio so you miss calls)
So, having said all of that, I'd really appreciate some information on stable ROMs which offer upgrades that I'm looking for (improved speed and improved camera quality).
Thanks
stupid111 said:
To be honest, I've read through almost all of the Wiki, and it's worthless. The links go to empty pages that need updating or have placeholder text.
Also, the FTP site works about 1/3 of the time
I've RTFM, but I need to know which ROM offers what benefit, etc. Also, I've read through the forum, but I've also noticed that 20 pages into a thread people start *****ing about the ROM either bricking their phone or screwing up major features (e.g. the latest Molski ROM mysteriously turning off the cell radio so you miss calls)
So, having said all of that, I'd really appreciate some information on stable ROMs which offer upgrades that I'm looking for (improved speed and improved camera quality).
Thanks
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How can you say the FTP site works 1/3 of the time, you have been here less than a month? This FTP is one of the most stable ones i have seen, i have yet to have an issue connecting to it.. anyway...
The people *****ing about bricked phones are usually the uninformed users who just jump in without reading anything, in MOST cases they have G4 and try to use a G3 rom, or they havent cid unlocked their phone, etc.. or they dont read the entire thread to see the bugs in the rom, etc..
The wikki is being worked on, some of its crap, but there is still alot of useful info on there.
And its hard to state which rom is better than the other, most of the chefs have tailored them for different needs, MOST of them already include much needed tweaks like the camera tweak and many others.
You may not even need to change roms.. some of the stuff you can do on your current OEM rom to speed it up... Get an OMAP overclocker, such as battery status or OMAP scaler, etc.. free up as much space on the device by installing programs to the memory card, and install any today plugin's to the device( i mention this so there isnt a delay of the phone having to read the card for the today plugin when you pull the device out of sleep). Try some of the tweaks listed in the WM5 wikki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Performance
You dont necessarily have to flash a different rom to be happy with the device, and in most cases there really isnt a reason to flash to a different rom. its important to adhere to this simple phrase "If its not broke then dont fix it"
Most importantly, make sure you fully understand what you are doing before you do it.
Tweaks for Speed and Camera
OK. To get better camera quality, see THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245651&highlight=Camera+Tweaks
There are cab files to improve the camera quality in that thread WITHOUT flashing a new ROM.
For Increased speed, you could download the Omap Overclocking cab from THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271012&highlight=Omap+Overclocking
-- OR, to apply other tweaks, try the Registry Wizard from THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255225&highlight=Registry+Wizard
What the OP wants can be done WITHOUT flashing to a new ROM. So, no more posts from someone who "bricked" their phone without READING first. And, it's absolutely AMAZING what turns up when using the Search Engine.
I'll be the first to admit that there's still a LOT I don't know -- but I DO know how to read and search for the answers.
Those were very helpful replies, newbie. Thanks! :bowdown:
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OK. To get better camera quality, see THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245651&highlight=Camera+Tweaks
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Looks like I'm running a newer version than what's in that thread...
I've got 3.0 build 23027 ... is there some benefit to rolling back
WTF all those tweaks are so old and the post are from 2005. the stock camera version on the 2.26 Rom is newer than whatever is on that link
newbie2 said:
OK. To get better camera quality, see THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245651&highlight=Camera+Tweaks
There are cab files to improve the camera quality in that thread WITHOUT flashing a new ROM.
For Increased speed, you could download the Omap Overclocking cab from THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271012&highlight=Omap+Overclocking
-- OR, to apply other tweaks, try the Registry Wizard from THIS thread -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255225&highlight=Registry+Wizard
What the OP wants can be done WITHOUT flashing to a new ROM. So, no more posts from someone who "bricked" their phone without READING first. And, it's absolutely AMAZING what turns up when using the Search Engine.
I'll be the first to admit that there's still a LOT I don't know -- but I DO know how to read and search for the answers.
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WTF all those tweaks are so old and the post are from 2005. the stock camera version on the 2.26 Rom is newer than whatever is on that link
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Old or not they still do the job, and most of those apps are continuely updated. So do some more reading before making a post like that. If you arent going to appreciate our help then there are other boards out there.
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Old or not they still do the job, and most of those apps are continuely updated. So do some more reading before making a post like that. If you arent going to appreciate our help then there are other boards out there.
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Thank You!!
I applied that camera tweak cab to my 8125 back in June or July after reading that thread and it worked like a charm on the Cingular/HTC updated 2.25 ROM. And -- as Shogunmark indicated -- tweaks, hacks and apps ARE continuously updated. Here's a link to some (I'm assuming) updated camera tweak cabs, beginning on page 2 of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=260479&page=2
As for the others, I've also used them individually until some of the modified ROMs included them -- so then, I didn't have to manually add them any more.
I just wonder why -- if they're so old -- the ROM cookers are incorporating some of the tweaks into their ROMs. Of course, "paypalbid" would have seen that had he/she taken the time to read all the threads on available modified ROMs to see what's in some of them.
Hmmm. . . . .

Rom

What is the best rom to have right now. Is having the HTC Home thing considered having a certain ROM? Or is the ROM the whoole thing? im sorry for such childish questions but im really trying to understand the PPC world.
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What is the best rom to have right now. Is having the HTC Home thing considered having a certain ROM? Or is the ROM the whoole thing? im sorry for such childish questions but im really trying to understand the PPC world.
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Asking which is the best ROM is kind of like asking which is the best flavor of ice cream. Not sure abot yout HTC Home question. I believe HTC Home is a plug-in featured on the HTC Tytn II. I do not use it because I use SPB Pocket Plus.
My preference on ROMS is clean and simple with speed and stability. I have tried roms from almost everybody, and have found Quentins 1.2 the best for what I am looking for. Just my opinion. I will tell you what everybody else tells you. flash...flash...and reflash and see which one suits your needs best.
ty.. what is the big deal with duttythroy or w.e it is and v3 i dont understand all the cabs and stuff .what does it all mean also what are radios.
lol. You are truly a newb. Don't worry I was there at one time. 2 days later after reading my arse off I flashed my first ROM. Since then I've done 5 tilts. I flashed Schaps 4.31. I'll break it down for you
Chef is the person who make the ROM.
Look through the thread you'll see different ROMs and screenshots.
You have full ROMs-ROMs with added goodies like programs and tweaks
Light ROMs-These ROMs are made to free up device memory
Ultralight ROMs-Everything is stripped. Like stripping a car and you starting all over again to put it back together the way you would like.
Radios enable you to hear sound, make receive phone calls etc.
What sometimes happens is that you flash a ROM to your phone and you get no sound. Reason: Radio is not compatible for the ROM you just installed on your phone. Answer: Flash a compatible ROM.
Hope this breaks the ice.
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lol. You are truly a newb. Don't worry I was there at one time. 2 days later after reading my arse off I flashed my first ROM. Since then I've done 5 tilts. I flashed Schaps 4.31. I'll break it down for you
Chef is the person who make the ROM.
Look through the thread you'll see different ROMs and screenshots.
You have full ROMs-ROMs with added goodies like programs and tweaks
Light ROMs-These ROMs are made to free up device memory
Ultralight ROMs-Everything is stripped. Like stripping a car and you starting all over again to put it back together the way you would like.
Radios enable you to hear sound, make receive phone calls etc.
What sometimes happens is that you flash a ROM to your phone and you get no sound. Reason: Radio is not compatible for the ROM you just installed on your phone. Answer: Flash a compatible ROM.
Hope this breaks the ice.
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Thank you very much. My first "flash" i guess u could say was flashing the HTC Home Today Screen and got rid of the at&t bloatware other than that i have not gone farther than that besides little .cabs here and there. So a rom such as duttys dual touch v4 is a "FULL" rom ...
There is so much info out there that is almost daunting - I know, I've been there too! An excellent place to start is bmueller77's brilliant FAQ on ROMs and flashing - should help you hit the ground running!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895

Question from a noob.

Hi all, I have had a search around and cant find the answer to my question. I expect to get flamed, but here goes.
Having access to all the great roms here, I still dont know which to go for. Many have asked the same thing, but the answer is always the same try them out for yourself. I appreciate the hard work that goes into cooking the roms (or maybe I dont as I would never attempt it) and no one wants to say which is better, but to those of us who are either noobs or just want an improved kaiser the time involved trying them all out can be prohibitive.
I would love to have a new rom that does what I want and then to be able to donate to the chef for the work they put in to developing it. I use my phone so much I really cant be bothered saving data/programs and then re-stalling them until I find a rom that suits. I appreciate the problems that everyones needs are different, but are they so different? Full of features, reliable, fast as poss and looks good, this may describe most roms but I dont know without trying them all or be told which people prefer. If a chef knows that most people dont want a particular feature but definately want another they can see by the downloads which rom is the most popular. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery (coupled with innovation).
I have an unlocked orange UK, WM6, rom 1.81.61.2 WWE (dated 09/20/07), Radio 1.27.14.32, but really dont know what would be the best feature rich, fast, best looking, impressive rom.
I stand ready to be charred
Just randomly install one..
That is your answer.
There is no straight jacket answer because truth is like a diamond. did you get it my friend..
So if I happen to install one that Im not happy with, I may think "oh is that the best on offer, I wont bother again". Im afraid it seems like everyone has to re-invent the wheel in trying a rom out.
Have you installed a rom and then thought wow what a load of rubbish? If people dont know then more will have the same experience, just trying to avoid that. Dare I say that the cooking of roms is not my main interest, but appreciate that it is to others and also appreciate the work that goes into them. Am I being selfish in wanting something that is stable with as I said lots of features etc? Probably, but the same can be said about anything if your not an expert.
Im not trying to be a pain just want some advice to save a lot of time and messing about
Can't give you more info than others as it's all a flash try if don't like flash something different.
If don't have the time to do this the best bet is just to stay stock.
We all install ROMs once in a while don't find it fits our needs yet the one thing we know is that it takes the flasher about 10mins to flash then an hour to play compared to the average ROM taking days to build with having to flash @ every change...
Hey
No need to fear as I was also the same like you when I joined XDA, it is overwhelming seeing the number of custom ROMS out there as well as the extreme amount of information on XDA itself. But after a while you get used to it and draw a simple conclusion, you simply cannot absorb it ALL unless you dedicate your entire life to it.
However you can slowly learn the ropes about the ROMS and proceed.
To answer your question: at the moment it seems like the WM 6.5 roms are the best looking, most feature rich and quite quick to boot, however to me they seem to a bit more unstable and open to flaws than the WM 6.1 roms which have the benefit of being cooked for longer and thus have had the number for bugs reduced. I have used two 6.5 ROMs and have not been able to get them to work with complete functionality I require. So I've decided to wait a while.
So to start of with you should probably find one of the popular WM 6.1 roms (just sort the rom forum by views or replies and you're bound to see whats popular) and flash that to your phone. I am currently using Sakajati's Hyperdragon IV and it is awesome and stable, but you can look around as there is no guarantee that that will work as excellently for you as it has for me. However by using the 6.1 rom I have learnt a fair bit also with the help of the XDA forums and search function. I am now competent enough to solve issues that arise from newer buggier roms etc.
So yeah as the previous guys have mentioned, its trial and error to a certain extent. What works for me may not work for you and it is best to start of with something a bit more stable in favour of features etc. In addition once you find out about the best applications to enhance the phone and use it in conjunction with the cooked ROMs they become even better. I for example am using the 6.1 ROM with SPB Mobile shell which really makes the phone IMHO so awesome that I don't feel the need to move over to a 6.5 rom as everything on my phone works and it provides me with the perfect and efficient functionality that I require.
In the end if you can't land on a custom ROM to your liking, don't give up there might be one out there that works, it just takes patience and a bit of work.
Thanks for the replies, fishzn appreciate the advice, tried looking for the hyperdragon rom but appears to have been taken off. Not sure where to get it from? Tried the authors site, but log in problems seem to be affecting many there.
Thanks again.
Here is the thread on sakajati's forums with the download links for the ROM, you need to register on that forum to download. Don't know about the login problems though, my account is logged in with no issues really. Anyway YGPM
i have gone back to a 6.1 rom having tried several 6.1s before then a few 6.5s.
i found the 6.1 more reliable and stable (never got messages working properly on 6.5). i avoid the lite/fast ones also now as i didnt really notice any speed increase but did notice that i was forever looking for cabs to add back in what was missing. i have a 8gb card loaded with apps and expect them all to work.
just give one a go. you get a feel pretty quick for how it runs you own stuff.
use a good backup program (i use spb backup) and keep a full copy (or 2) on a pc of your sd card.
WARNING: changing roms is very addictive, it will take away your free time (but it is fun)
Stop being a little girl (unless you are one) and jump in..
Each rom has a thread and in that thread people talk about it. Read or jump in head first, either way you could have found the rom of your dreams by now..

DIR ROM ? - Do It Right ? /Quality Control ?

What I miss at this forum, is a ROM with a honest, complete list of known bugs/non-working stuff.
Would like to see some quality-control, and know what I install - before I do.
Everybody is cooking ROM's (and that's nice) but there's no way to know how they will work before trying.
-its impossible to read thru >200 posts and figure out which of those are about the current version.
-recent posts are sometimes about earlier versions too...
Please: I hope some of you that des this nice job will focus on information about quality, and keep a "buglist" for each version..
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What I miss at this forum, is a ROM with a honest, complete list of known bugs/non-working stuff.
Would like to see some quality-control, and know what I install - before I do.
Everybody is cooking ROM's (and that's nice) but there's no way to know how they will work before trying.
-its impossible to read thru >200 posts and figure out which of those are about the current version.
-recent posts are sometimes about earlier versions too...
Please: I hope some of you that des this nice job will focus on information about quality, and keep a "buglist" for each version..
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I agree 100% Buglists are a must. Roms shouldn't be released with alot of bugs unless stated by the op.
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I agree 100% Buglists are a must. Roms shouldn't be released with alot of bugs unless stated by the op.
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I think the point you're missing is that the bugs only become apparent after others flash the ROMs and do some testing.....
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apparent after others flash the ROMs and do some testing.....
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nope - the author/or a helper is in the ultimate position to read the feedback, verify, and make a list in the first article containing these bugs.
i did not say that the cook should know about every bug before releasing.
maintain a list, and verify it against next version.
-the only way to have some quality control...
I agree with the sentiment - for those of us who only flash their phones maybe once a month, it would be nice to know a ROM is ultra stable and all known bugs / oddities have been sorted. (or if not, then a comprehensive list of things that are broken, with any workarounds etc) Reading through thousands of posts takes hours and not everybody has the time or inclination for that.
For instance both WM and Manila (and others) are under very active development, there are always new versions coming out. While it would be unreasonable to expect the beta WM builds (23xxx, 28xxx) to be 100% stable, it would be nice for a cook or two to say "right, this combination of components is stable, I'm going to stick with these for a while" instead of always following the very latest cutting edge "LOOK, SHINY TOYS!" at the risk of stability.
As for stability I am currently on JoshKoss's latest (1.7) and have yet to experience a single error, crash or hang. And Josh's seem to be the fastest ROMs, definitely of the ones I have experienced anyway. There are a few minor inconsistencies but these are in no way critical. If you want stable I would not even consider Manila 2.5 or any of the "start menu at the bottom" ROMs.
Have you tried AthineOS ROMS? Very fast, very stable. The current Leo 2.02 based ROM is the fastest Sense 2.5 ROM I've tried (and I've tried them all) and stable enough for hassle-free day to day use.
Guyz As far as my experience goes no cook likes to hide the bug list, rather they work to bring more in the light. Users like us are expected to give our submissions. Thats how it works. Things like quality control is not what we have seen here since its not GM factory but a place to share & experiment & success & failure is part of that place.
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nope - the author/or a helper is in the ultimate position to read the feedback, verify, and make a list in the first article containing these bugs.
i did not say that the cook should know about every bug before releasing.
maintain a list, and verify it against next version.
-the only way to have some quality control...
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I completely disagree. At the rate new builds are released, and with so many new tweaks and items going into ROMs, I think it would take forever for the chef and a select few beta testers to try and figure out all or most bugs in a ROM. I use Arrups ROMs, and he discloses everything that he can, but ultimately its not the chefs responsibility to create a "perfect" rom for Al Capone is it? Everyone uses different applications which can affect the stability of a ROM completely-for example Opera beta 10. I think its much more efficient to have them release the ROMs and let lots of people try and break them, then come back and fix it. And when bugs arise the are put on a "bug list" to be fixed.
We would never see new ROM releases for months if we waited for chefs to perfect stuff. So the people who just flash and leach ROMs cant help out a little?
Since you are so anxious about having a perfect ROM, why dont you have a go at it? Or is *****ing easier?
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As for stability I am currently on JoshKoss's latest (1.7) and have yet to experience a single error, crash or hang. And Josh's seem to be the fastest ROMs, definitely of the ones I have experienced anyway. There are a few minor inconsistencies but these are in no way critical. If you want stable I would not even consider Manila 2.5 or any of the "start menu at the bottom" ROMs.
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X2, This is a very stable ROM. I have been running it close to 2 weeks with no real issues & haven't had to soft reset because of a glitch or hang up.
I have to chime in here and agree with the sentiment of this thread. The application of it is much more difficult that it seems. I have been down this road before, trying to get the chefs to post a comprehensive bug list for their ROMs and while they are willing to do it, it is VERY difficult to tell what is a real bug and what is OE (operator error), confusion caused by loading some application, etc that really isn't a bug or a real bug.
For example, I have been running Sergio76's EVO 3 ROM for sometime now, and have absolutely nothing bad to say about it. Stable as hell, fast, good memory, good battery etc. But some of the other users of the same ROM find 'bugs' mostly caused by putting different shells on, or trying to icon sets.
So, my point is BRAVO! this needs to be done, but let's have a good discussion of how to categorize what is a bug, what is an incompatibility, etc. Because, if we simply list all these things as bugs then we run the risk of scaring folks off of flashing a potentially GREAT ROM all because one or two guys muck it up by hacking the registry and it gets put on a bug list.
I would also like to see a 'standard' way all the chefs list bugs, etc.
Russ
iceman4357 said:
why dont you have a go at it? Or is *****ing easier?
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bit harsh tbh
MadBeef said:
bit harsh tbh
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I was actually holding back a lot. Unfortunately 90% of people on here dont contribute anything and just expect stuff to happen perfectly. If its so easy, then instead of creating an entire thread to talk about problems, why not make a "perfect" Rom and contribute.
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Since you are so anxious about having a perfect ROM, why dont you have a go at it? Or is *****ing easier?
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your own *****ing certainly does not help.
read my lips:
-I do NOT ask for a "perfect" ROM
-I just ask for the cook/helper to browse thru the reply-posts, and add known bugs they can confirm, to the first post - the one that contains the ROM
-So any ROM can have a list of known errors, (the the author confirms)
AlCapone said:
your own *****ing certainly does not help.
read my lips:
-I do NOT ask for a "perfect" ROM
-I just ask for the cook/helper to browse thru the reply-posts, and add known bugs they can confirm, to the first post - the one that contains the ROM
-So any ROM can have a list of known errors, (the the author confirms)
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So the chef should worry about reading the 200 posts that you were worried about reading instead of working on ROMs? I am sure that chef mailboxes are full of people reporting bugs on a daily basis.
There are people other than the chefs that have a good deal of experience that help within the thread posts, that free up the chef to continue experimenting and cooking ROMs.
A lot of "common" bugs are specific to builds, such as the landscape issues vs touchflow(sense), or GPS lag which take a lot of time and programming to figure out. These are commonly known across ROMs and builds.
A lot of smaller bugs are from individual customization errors like with S2U2, Opera Beta, lack of knowledge, or custom tweaking.
Chefs, in my opinion, are here to provide a decent platform ROM for us to costimize individually; not to help each individual person with each custom problem they have.
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Montea said:
X2, This is a very stable ROM. I have been running it close to 2 weeks with no real issues & haven't had to soft reset because of a glitch or hang up.
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can u link me up with the x2 rom u speak about?thanks
oyebee said:
can u link me up with the x2 rom u speak about?thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
We were on about JoshKoss's ROMs.
I've said this for years, something like bugzilla would be good. Not that I have ever used it but something with a bit of structure you know? Flag bugs by component (ie. Manila footprints tab, lock screen, or whatever) then by ROM so the system will know already if it is ROM specific or not. But it still relies on people adding good data, as the saying goes, "Garbage In Garbage Out". An automated config dump tool would be a good step towards that. (an end-to-end "report bug" app would be awesome) After all I don't know what point release of Manila I'm running (1921? 1922??) because I don't really care unless it breaks, or a newer version has more shiny.
Anyway I said this a while ago and we are still "*****ing" about ROMs at a fairly disorganised level, and yet the cooks continue to work their magic, so it can't be all that bad
From another guy who comes on here with not very much to offer yet continues to leech a new ROM once a month or so
Stop the Madness...
Oh Geez....
Yes, I am one of the lurkers here at XDA, having been flashing my phones for years and not really contributing much to the community.
I have made a New Year's resolution to change that, so I am posting more now.
But look at some of the most popular ROMS....
Within hours of a Chef releasing a new version, there are hundreds of posts about it.
From what I gather, 95% if not more of these guys/gals cook up these ROMs in their spare time. They do it because they like to do it. I don't think anyone here is getting rich cooking up a ROM for my TP2. They all have lives and when there can be 40+ pages of posts within a couple days after they release a new version, I don't expect them to read every single one. Especially where a vast majority are people asking how to flash the ROM, how to change the theme or other posts that a simple search would provide the answer.
Most Chefs do post what was fixed, what was improved and a lot of them post issues in their ROMS.
I have spent hours reading page after page trying to figure out an answer to a issue I have had...knowing I was probably not the only one having it.
Do some Chef's not post as much info as I would like? Yes.
Am I going to berate those Chefs for not doing so? No.
Some of the responsibility has to be on the users. Period.
For example, I was and am a fan of the Energy ROMs. But I SMS an insane amount and the newest Leo interface with the HTC messaging client sucked, period. Not to say NRGZ28's ROMs sucked, quite the contrary, they are great. But did those ROMs fill every need that I specifically had? No.
So, I did some research, and I found in a thread where Agent_47 suggested his ROM because he didn't even cook in the HTC SMS messaging client. So, I looked at his thread, flashed the ROM, and realized that I have had no issues with it and am very happy. Stable, works and I don't have to wait 7 minutes sometimes to send a text to someone!
We are all very lucky to have XDA. We are all very lucky to have the Chefs that spend their own time, and a lot of it, to cook up these excellent ROMs for us to flash.
Instead of complaining about the lack of 'bug lists'...perhaps you could create a tool or set something up to help the Chefs better manage those said lists?
That is the spirit that has and continues to make XDA great, if there is something you want, something that you see lacking, then create a tool to fill that void.
If you don't want to do that, then I suggest getting an iPhone, where you are locked into your OS and a slave to Apple and their constant updates and static interface. Cool device, granted, but I prefer the freedom of flashing, the excitement of trying new interfaces, experimenting with new features and lastly, the great folks here at XDA.
\.end rant
Spankmeister said:
I suggest getting an iPhone
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Let's not get silly

The best and most stable 6.5 rom

So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
I think XannyTechRom is now the stabilytiest rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594151
The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
However , you could start off with Miri's as it is close to stock and try everything else before you conclude whats best for you.
PS : All ROM's are stable.
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The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
However , you could start off with Miri's as it is close to stock and try everything else before you conclude whats best for you.
PS : All ROM's are stable.
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there is no "stable" on cooked roms... but its play with them.
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So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
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mark my words and go for Energy Phoenix 21891 Feb 4 release.
Its mind boggling. Cool and suave.
And really fast. Mark my words again REALLY FAST and no bugs. Really STABLE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524032
Asked a million Times
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So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
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This really gets asked alot and is pretty much a waste of time. This will get closed fairly quickly as it should be.
Asking what is the most stable or best rom usually ends up in endless & pointless bickering.
The best answer is the one that you find most works for you. Search, read the different rom threads and see what parts of them you like. Read up some more then flash a few and use them for a few days so you get the feel and experience of them. You will eventually find one that has all that you are looking for.
@MODS: Do your thing
adempozhari said:
there is no "stable" on cooked roms... but its play with them.
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It depends on how you want to describe "stable".
Most of the ROM's i try here are really good. But it really depends on what your looking for. Sometimes i want Eye candy, and sometimes I just want my ROM to be very responsive and bug free with the things I normally use.
Then again its subjective from person to person.
And pointless threads leads to pointless discussions , lol
Just my 2 cents.
Waiting for this to be closed.
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So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
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You will never know.
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The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
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good advice... the problem is, that we have a umpteen of different ROMS and - thats most tiring - a bazillion of replys to the particular threads. How could you extract valuable information out of that bunch of information?
so, in my opinion, that thread here is absolutely justified. But on the other side I have absolutely no idea, how to find a answer to that question.
cheers
The point here is, "You will never know unless you try it yourself," especially if you spend your time asking others, waiting and hoping.
Read threads, explore and experiment is the best advice we all can give you as everyone's preference can be different then yours.
.....threads like this don't last long for the purposes mentioned above so before it closes I would like to say Good luck and happy Flashing.
I understand where you are coming from, there is a hell of a lot of reading through various forums to try and work out what is the best for you. ( I also have found the search function takes quite a while to dig through to find what u want)
Recently I have been after fast/"stable" rom, running a WM6.5 rom with sence 2.5. I'm am not a serial flasher, as i try and find a good rom and stick with it for a many months. (Was a big fan of Dutty's when he cooked for the HD)
I choose the below (easy to find in the rom section)
[ROM][WWE][Feb.13.10] Topix 3.5.4 [Sense 2.5.2012][5.2.21891][ONLINE]
and I run version 1.14.XX.XX radio.
There are a few small bugs but nothing major or impact most peoples phone usage,
Main bugs are
Java won't run (bypassable by a cab)
Slight issue when editing a txt (still researching a fix)
Possibly problem keeping a proxy setting (no research done yet)
I beleive facebook also needs some patching but i dont use it so have not tried, but again there is a cab to fix it
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I have added added a small amount of bling, being
"Brians WM6.5 taskbar (v5b)" for a coloured taskbar
and
"driverpack signed 2010" to increase video speed
I also have a heap of games plus some apps and utilities (eg clean ram, Tom Tom, coreplayer, mobipocket etc)
It runs very well and I have had no stability issue's. It's fine on the battery too unlike some.
I highly recommend it. (This is a fairly new rom version so it is possible that other problem may occur but it is from a good cook)
Difficult to answer this is why these kind of posts get stopped...
But It all depends on what you use your device for, I for one need lots of free memory as I run some heavy GPS software and other applications at the same time, most of the Sense 2.5 loaded roms are way to bloated, they look nice and are great for basic use, but once you start really pushing the device which this device can handle, its just it seems all this fuss about a bit of graphical weather and a book reader that is far inferior to most applications out there, is beyond me...WM6.5.5 I find very nice, especially the new calendar finger friendlyness, I find I don't use the sense calendar as I can quickly cut and paste etc..within the built in calendar, music player I find Nitrogen far superior to the HTC one, image viewer well there can be only one and thats Rescos.
I can see what HTC are trying to do with Sense, but its based on having an extremely powerful system ie..HD2. so I would recommend a basic rom

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