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Just saw this on Engadget, and figured everyone here will be interested in this. A swiss company made a user interface for all WM devices that emulates the look and feel of the iPhone interface. This company also tried to add "multitouch-ish" functions to the WM devices by simulating multi touch features while displaying photos and web pages. .
Looks pretty cool so far and it has potential. The article states that it will be available for download in May.
Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/30/video-iswish-puts-the-iphone-ui-on-any-windows-mobile-phone/
Video of interface:
http://www.flicksoftware.com/research/index_files/Page350.htm
I am currently using SPB Mobile Shell but am willing to check out all other UI apps out there and this one looks promising.
looks very good. hope this will commin soon for us
its best iphone copy i´ve ever see
cant wait it
Looks good actually. I'll be keeping a watch on them as well as here for a download.
iZoom looks promising as well, even if Swish isn't available when Zoom is released.
This look sick , very sick. Ive never seen any iphone clone this much fluidy
Looks cool; see here http://www.flicksoftware.com/research/index_files/Page350.htm for details about joining the beta....
this looks cool, got myself on the beta when i saw the engadet post
hmm..reminds me of the Freestyl application that I really didnt like. Hopefully this one is much better. Going to try it out.
Update 03/May/2008:
We would like to thank everyone for their support and for Joining our Beta program. We have received over 2000 requests and we will be breaking them into 3 tiers with an increasing number of Beta tester in each one. The tier 1 will be selected late this week and will only be about 10 people, if things go well then late the following week we will expand to 100 and before months end over 1000.
Lastly to answer the number one question we have had, yes we do plan to start testing the iSwish development kit in the next 30 days. This will allow any designer to add iswish capabilities to their own windows mobile/PPC/CE applications. If you are a developer and interested in beta testing this please e-mail us at “[email protected]” with the subject “iSiwsh development environment Beta” and your company, name and current development environment.
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i hope this makes the light of day in a released piece of software!!
I'm in for at least trying it out. I'm a sucker for eye candy crap like this.
It looks like it enables dualtouch in WM?
New iZoom video for iSwish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icOMJuuWePY
udgn said:
It looks like it enables dualtouch in WM?
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True with iZoom...dualtouch is now possible on a singletouch interface. Look at the youtube video just above my post...they even installed dualtouch on a 6yr old device.
I guess it's a kind of dualtouch, though it seems that one point has to remain fixed when in this mode. Still could be quite useful I'm sure.
Looks promising but overall I think the idea is silly - I would of just bought an iPhone
digitalninjas said:
Looks promising but overall I think the idea is silly - I would of just bought an iPhone
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ok so just by one then...
you will end up with no GPS, MMS, Video recording, Bluetooth, SD slot, 3G etc etc etc
you will have a phone with a nice screen...thats is...I like the iphone but I dont like the actual phone....feel me ?
Exactly. The iPhone is nice looking, smooth, sleek and shiny, the Kaiser is big heavy and some have said ugly. But compare the features. The iPhone is a million miles away.
I briefly considered the iPhone before I got my Kaiser and I made the right choice. The clincher for me was the commercialism surrounding the iPhone. Too many people have jumped on the bandwagon and it's just not that cool anymore. Personally I don't think it ever was - a phone for show-offs who just want to impress people. The Kaiser is different. It may not look the best and the WM interface may not be to everybody's liking. But it can be a SatNav or a GameBoy, a notepad or a Webcam. The possiblilities are almost endless. And if you really can't live without the iPhone's inteface, you don't have to look far to get something similar, or even better.
Anyway, off topic, but that's my rant. I feel better now...
Macedon2000 said:
ok so just by one then...
you will end up with no GPS, MMS, Video recording, Bluetooth, SD slot, 3G etc etc etc
you will have a phone with a nice screen...thats is...I like the iphone but I dont like the actual phone....feel me ?
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ah, I get where you're coming from.
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matmaneyre said:
Exactly. The iPhone is nice looking, smooth, sleek and shiny, the Kaiser is big heavy and some have said ugly. But compare the features. The iPhone is a million miles away.
I briefly considered the iPhone before I got my Kaiser and I made the right choice. The clincher for me was the commercialism surrounding the iPhone. Too many people have jumped on the bandwagon and it's just not that cool anymore. Personally I don't think it ever was - a phone for show-offs who just want to impress people. The Kaiser is different. It may not look the best and the WM interface may not be to everybody's liking. But it can be a SatNav or a GameBoy, a notepad or a Webcam. The possiblilities are almost endless. And if you really can't live without the iPhone's inteface, you don't have to look far to get something similar, or even better.
Anyway, off topic, but that's my rant. I feel better now...
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I agree completely, but after buying an iPhone and using it for a week or so, I really loved the interface. I love the screen and how easy it is to navigate through everything. The browser is ten times better than PIE, and although you can get Opera or Skyfire, on the 2.8" screen they are still really difficult to use. In the end I chose to keep my kaiser over the iphone because I couldn't get used to typing without a hardware keyboard, but in all honesty I really loved the iphone interface.
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Hello Beta Tester,
We will have an update for you later this week on iSwish, but I thought I would point you all to the new video one of our developers posted last night showcasing the iZoom in full multi-touch with an interesting twist at the end. There was a measure of disbelief in its authenticity, so we hope this clears that up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icOMJuuWePY
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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I have to wonder why you even considered a diamond tbh..
you should get an iPhone
Nokia 1911 >>>> all
Surely you cant customise an E71 as much as a WM Device anyway?
I had an E71 for a while for work......My only comment on the device is "thank god i have a HTC Device!"
Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
thanks for your replies, ... dont forget please, i'm just sharing my thoughts in non-perfect english. I dont except that everyone thinks what i think.
and hey, its a gameboy too, whith hardware buttons and a dpad but has perfect professional business solutions that i need.
Rotkaeqpchen said:
.....A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
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Really?? You mean my phone shipped with a Hellboy theme that changes all the icons, puts really cool flames all over the clock, superimposes flames over my contacts pictures.... that came with my phone? I really don't think you've looked into this properly.
That said, these phones are for people who are prepared to invest time and effort into them to reap the rewards. It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
Monty Burns said:
It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
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You're absolutely right
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
danielch said:
you should get an iPhone
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I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards
ryousuke said:
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
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thanks im curious too.
rotkapqchen
nokia is living of people wich are thinking like redhat. but they will be lost in futur
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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Believe me you wont be missed. Have fun with your mmm... super customizable mmm Nokia???
Rotkaeqpchen said:
I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards.
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i dont know why you get diamond if you like qwerty keyboards in the first place ???
my messegae in the upcming weeks would be: ***bye bye my little Diamond - Hello Touch HD***
well well. Nokia is great for phone. HTC = phone = ****. HTC for customize. I like it. Some kind of killing my time to upgrade, check website, upgrade and upgrade until the time I said. I have a life now. Than I'm going to say goodbye HTC.
Again
HTC = phone = **** ( sorry to say that )
HTC = killing my boring time = yes
Hey, It's the same thing I said when I ditched my ROKR E2 and bought an a1200, but then again... I found motorlafans, and couldn't help it... it's too good to be left alone.
Then it came to me that I REALLY needed some good phone for office business (which the A1200 performed well, but lacked wifi and 3G... and syncing was a hassle). When the iPhone came out, I said «nice, pretty... but it doesn't fit my philosophy...» which is customization... not only for themes and etc. but for speed, performance and suiting needs.
I saw the first iPhone killers and said, no way. But then the Diamond appeared: small, nice, useful... then I started researching the Touch (the first one) and discovered this site...
Seeing all the possibilities, I said: What the hell! Let's roll with HTC, the mother and father of 80% of OEM handsets that took a leap and started selling their own stuff, and with great design and TRUE innovation.
BUT, the Touch wouldn't be up to the cut: too much third party apps to make it run like I THOUGHT it should...
XPERIA made its teaser trailers, and I went numb... but it was a promise of long delays, Sony branding and a lot of zeroes on the pricetag.
The Diamond turned into a bliss... beyond all the iPhone wannabes, beyond usability paradigms, I remember thinking «WOW, that's a smart way of arranging a Home Screen, without clutter, with access to all the basics upfront, just like a superphone with a Clark Kent/Superman switch... (in reference to the TouchFlo3D taking all the basics to a new level and letting the powerhorse to sit in the back and enjoy the ride)».
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
But then again, I'm now swapping for a US version, and the rollercoaster will start again... I'm positive that the same tweaked roms can be used with the same efficiency...
Time will tell. . .
boolean22 said:
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
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now i have to agree on this one, HTC should tweaked some of windows registry before releasing it. for example, didnt they try the device when you try to reply an sms??? you could barely read your own message with that ONE line reply window
average consumer dont know what to do with this kind of problem, all they have in their mind is ''What the hell is this???''
heck we even need an unknown 3rd party app to adjust this small problem.
HTC please TEST your device before releasing it
It might be just mine, cause I use the fonts just one point above the minimum... but mine's got 2 lines... it's easier and the high res screen does a great job rendering minuscule fonts...
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Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
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I guess so.. All the tf3d is a today plugin with some bells and whistles.
This device is really nice and fast when you diable that.
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Good bye NO great games,
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and how does the e71 help there? I believe the e71 is even less customizable and has even less games available for it.
Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!
not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI
I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!
Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)
Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.
Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.
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There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
orb3000 said:
That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks
I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!
I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.
I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
ace10134 said:
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...
HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u
They support non-SSL exchange now
derekwilkinson said:
They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
Why doesn't the iphone have a physical keyboard like the touch pro !!!?
because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
Edit: Above post is to the OP not you sevenalive lol. it sounds weird reading your post right before mine lol. U posted a minute b4 me .
siggty7 said:
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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Why can't i pay $70 a month for tethering like on the iphone when i have to pay $0 on the touch pro..... some things in life aren't fair for everything else theres Steve errr Apple - http://i.gizmodo.com/5285898/bart-tears-down-dvd-jons-apple+baiting-doubletwist-ad
the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
xda fits more for hardcore users, not sheep
Why do you all keep putting down the iphone and flaming about it when that wasn't the question? I'm also someone who likes the animations that phones like the iPhone and Palm Pre have and would love to get them on wm6.5. If the iphone had a keyboard and was on verizon, i would've went straight for it. We already know that the iphone doesn't have a keyboard and costs $75 a month so what's the point of writing that? No one's asking to turn their htc into an iphone or even copy the interface, it's just a simple question. If you don't know the answer, don't waste everyon'e time by ranting about the iphone's faults. I'd settle for just animations whether they look like the iphone/palm pre or not. It makes rotating the phone or going back to the home screen look much smoother.
Anyway, i have a question that ACTUALLY pertains to this topic. Is there a way to get the accelerometer effects like the omnia/iphone/palm pre or like Opera 9.7 when the device is turned? I like how the page kind of flips when it's rotating.
I feel for you :] I like some animations like that as well.
Granted, I'm an avid iPhone basher also, but I do like 2 things about it, and one is the animations and visual effects.
...the other is the capacitive touch screen. But, hey, they can't use their phone with a glove on. ;]
thank u! u understand what am saying i love my htc but **** come with some cool animations that all am saying!!
Wouldn't it be possible to design a Flash based menu system?
EDIT:
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/1...comes-freestyl-windows-mobile-program-launch/
some iphone interfaces do have animations
and if you want the palm pre interface for opening apps that are up you can combine butler with taskfacade. both which were out before web os was announced
butler turns your capacitive area into an app launcher
and taskfacade can be mapped to one of the areas and it will animate zooming out of the app and show all that are open. pretty snazzy
jaszek said:
because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
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the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
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I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...
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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...
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very well said. i feel the same way and think that the touch pro definately has the specs to be able to do simple animations like fading in and out of applications. im kind of glad the iphone's home screen is just a boring app launcher. Now if it was able to run plug ins like tf3d and spb mobile shell, windows mobile may be in trouble
why is the iphone mentioned here? the iphone has over (IDK) generations and they all look alike nothing different and just plain boring, i mean it has one main button and the apps are just lined up! "TALK ABOUT A BORING UI"
If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
On a side note... We were having Palm Pre training, and my trainer was bashing the Iphone left n right. It was actually pretty funny. He referred to it as "nothing more than a glorified paperweight for the A.D.D. generation incapable of performing any task without the use of an application". I felt pretty stupid tho cuz half of the applications he was talking about I have on my Touch Pro. Hehehe....
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If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
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I've used SPB for some time now on my Loox and I enjoy it very much. The new 3.0 is a great piece of work but like you mentioned it is still buggy.... The thing that gets me are the graphics! Why don't they develop skins for the shell??? You, I, he, they all have different likes and dislikes and ideas on how our systems should look and feel. If SPB would design a more user friendly version of the Shell it would definitely end up on everybodys mobile.
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can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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why on earth would I want something like that? so I can slow down my ppc? so I can be kewl n l33t like the iphone people? if I wanted all that crap, I woulda got an iphone like my wife. I wanted something a little more tweakable and something I could play with.. not a shiny thing for status.
I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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Did Microsoft send you!?
I know you're a rat..
jk
this the first time some one who likes wp7
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..... the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this.
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to me it sounds like ur 1 phone os far from realising theres nothing that would satisfy ur bi**y attitude and the problem is in you , so ur just trying to hold on a lame os which isnt good even by your own judgement(notice the "will"-s , a sign of wishful thinking) your hoping it gets magically perfect a day which isnt gonna happen , and ull utimately be faced by your sad self with your unreasonable standards
No no no u missed the point of my post. Do u own a WP 7? Being that I owned all three phones I can state I like the feel and potential of this OS no Microsoft didn't send me just tired of writers hating on the os but fact of the matter is that its a brand new os let it grow. I read its a dead OS today... How cause its in competition.. Well when Android came out it had to compete with IOS and windows mobile. It did fine so will this u tell me what's wrong with the os
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No no no u missed the point of my post. Do u own a WP 7? Being that I owned all three phones I can state I like the feel and potential of this OS no Microsoft didn't send me just tired of writers hating on the os but fact of the matter is that its a brand new os let it grow. I read its a dead OS today... How cause its in competition.. Well when Android came out it had to compete with IOS and windows mobile. It did fine so will this u tell me what's wrong with the os
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dont pay attention to them, they are just fandroids
A probably so. It felt right to give respect to a fun nice and cool OS like my home screen is so animated
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Did Microsoft send you!?
I know you're a rat..
jk
this the first time some one who likes wp7
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to me it sounds like ur 1 phone os far from realising theres nothing that would satisfy ur bi**y attitude and the problem is in you , so ur just trying to hold on a lame os which isnt good even by your own judgement(notice the "will"-s , a sign of wishful thinking) your hoping it gets magically perfect a day which isnt gonna happen , and ull utimately be faced by your sad self with your unreasonable standards
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go figure, someone posts something positive about wp7, and the android fanbois come running. I think they search the forum with terms like wp7 and focus.
I love my hd7, facebook integration means I actually check on my friends and family and seismic is a great twitter app. Sounds like IE is getting its own update very soon separate from wp7 updates (according to one of the MS engineers, he said to look for it in between the update coming and mango), and after mango, what will be missing? The only stuff I find annoying is that 3rd party apps can't run in the background yet, so opening links in twitter apps, takes you out of the app and sometimes you lose your place in the timeline.
The multimedia experience on this device has been so much better than winmo or android.
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I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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Wp7's UI is different, but I don't think it's beautiful. Besides, Wp7 has been out for a short time, so it has many shortcomings
I have tested it on my Leo for a couple of days and despite it´s nice I decided to go back to WM/Non NAND Android combo which is the best for me.
If you want to read my personal review here it is.
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go figure, someone posts something positive about wp7, and the android fanbois come running. I think they search the forum with terms like wp7 and focus.
I love my hd7, facebook integration means I actually check on my friends and family
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Its called getting your own life. Besides most smartphones can check facebook OHHH wow!!!
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No twitter app is great, unless you are one of the marketers milking the sad twitter addicts. OMG GREG IS TAKING A DUMP !!!!! RIGHT NOW !!!1!!11 OMG! Besides Most other smartphones have twitter apps.
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Sounds like IE is getting its own update very soon separate from wp7 updates (according to one of the MS engineers, he said to look for it in between the update coming and mango), and after mango, what will be missing? The only stuff I find annoying is that 3rd party apps can't run in the background yet, so opening links in twitter apps, takes you out of the app and sometimes you lose your place in the timeline.
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Wow. That means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Keep on rambling tho. you might actually say something legitimate and interesting about wp7.
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The multimedia experience on this device has been so much better than winmo or android.
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Nope not yet, but you will get there. Sounds like you should have spent your money on a real smart phone. Not a wanabe iphone.
How dare you call me a fandroid
well, i guess i'm a ''fandroid'' (wtf? is that supposed to be an insult?) but i have no problem with wp7.
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Its called getting your own life. Besides most smartphones can check facebook OHHH wow!!!
No twitter app is great, unless you are one of the marketers milking the sad twitter addicts. OMG GREG IS TAKING A DUMP !!!!! RIGHT NOW !!!1!!11 OMG! Besides Most other smartphones have twitter apps.
Wow. That means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Keep on rambling tho. you might actually say something legitimate and interesting about wp7.
Nope not yet, but you will get there. Sounds like you should have spent your money on a real smart phone. Not a wanabe iphone.
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C'mon man how is it an iPhone wanna be? U sound stupid so any smartphone that takes a simplistic user friendly approach is a smartphone wanna be? Ur an idiot
I am a neutral person.
So before anyone shoots childish insults at me, I don't give a damn about them
In my honest opinion I have had and handled all three of the mobile OS and I believe each has their advantages and disadvantages, as all things in life nothing is perfect.
iOS: Alittle too closed off for my tastes. I enjoy a few of the apps on there but for everyone who says that the Android market has stupid apps...guess what??? SO DOES APPLE! I have seen soo many stupid ass repetitive zombie apps on there I was sick. On top of that it doesn't allow SD support, which is also a personal problem, I don't like that you have to rely on Apple's App store to download and control your apps. Aside from that it is a nice OS if you jailbreak it and mod it yourself.
Windows Mobile: Well, this was my first mobile OS honestly. I enjoyed the ROM support on it but when it came to the app department you needed to have a freaking treasure hunt just to find a decent game haha You could also have a decent amount of customization because you can change the registry and such and whatnot, but it was a lot easier to screw up and have problems with the OS.
Android: I have been using this OS ever since I got my HD2 haha I agree with the retarded apps in the market but it's easy to pick out the good ones from the retarded ones, in my opinion. When it comes to apps as well you can easily download and install an .apk from online or store it on your sd card instead of having to rely on the market to dominate your every move. I also think Android is the best one for customization, with iOS you can't even change your keyboard, you always get the same dull crap, wm is a little better but you can't really adjust your home without adding more programs on top of programs, using more memory than you really should just for one thing. Plus...flash, enough said.
Windows Phone 7: I have seen, touched, played with and borrowed a WP7, I do not like it. I didn't have it in my possession for an entirely large amount of time so I can't say much about it. Yes the WP7 is new and developing still but so was Android, and honestly even when Android matured what happened to it overall? Speed? A little bit of change in the look of it? I do not see too much noticeable change coming from it in the long run, just a few tweaks here or there. Some people call them Iphone wannabes...so do I. I believe that Jobs and Gates wanted to compete to see whose phone can be the most restrictive and simplistic. And again with iPhone as well, with simplicity comes beauty, yes it looks nice, but you can't really do sh*t to it besides adding live tiles...which isn't all that impressive. I believe that the WP7 is basically a Microsoft version of iOS. PLUS! You can't even put a freaking SD card into the phone without taking it apart and having it formatted to your device and losing all of your data on there.
Hate it or love it that is my opinion on these different OSs.
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How dare you call me a fandroid
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Guys, he has a WM Touch Pro 2...how the HELL can he be a fandroid??
THread was fun thanks for coming
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Windows 7 is a big hit.
Windows 7 Mobile is a big flop.
I'm going back to my brick nokia and playing original snake fucj everything else
Swyped from my HTC HD2 using tapatalk
but but....
whats wrong with windows phone 7?
i mean... its a pleasently fast and fine OS
you can almost do all sorts of things just like all other smartphones
except that it has 'less apps on the marketplace or whatever you call it
well... at least it doesnt have those useless apps where you basically "drink" beer/air or "shave" nothing or idk what you name it... yet
but lets say... why not give this new fella os some room for growth instead of hating it from the very first day? fan boys jks
cheers and have a nice day
Coming from a WM6 / 6.5 background - at first I found WM7 frustrating. (I've only had the phone a few days).
Initially the whole idea of having ALL contacts in one place completely freaked me out. Then I realised the O/S is sensible enough to only offer phone contacts when messaging / calling. Luckily most of my FB 'friends' haven't added phone contact details - but when they do, I'll be back to being slightly screwed on that front. Having de-duped and linked accounts, things don't seem so bad ... but I still think having overall groupings for contacts would help me in the long run. (I haven't seen what's due in any updates, so it's something that may be coming).
Asides from the Zune-like interface, the one thing that is frustrating me most is the lack of RDP software. I used that a lot on my XDA zest.
Oh, and not supporting custom ring-tones out of the box is annoying too. Like with any MS O/S, you just have to get used to it....
So far though I'm thinking it's working faster / better for me than 6.5 was with few issues, so I'm fairly happy about it.