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Does any call recording software works on the Kaiser ?

Hi,
Can you please test and see if the phone is hardware limited to record the voice of the other person on a call like many other HTC PPC phones.
Software like:
VITO AudioNotes v1.3
Resco Audio Recorder 4 betas
LivePvr
PM Recorder
or even with the build-in Windows Notes.
10x

somebody ? anybody ?

mentox said:
somebody ? anybody ?
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i think there was a post like this on modaco, and the answer was:
resco recorder
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/default.asp
also you could try
vito audio notes
http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/audionotes.html

I am using Resco audio recorder on my Kaiser

austin_boy said:
I am using Resco audio recorder on my Kaiser
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but does it record the call partner voice too?
I know it was possible to record the whole conversation only on smarphone because of an hardware limitation in pocket pc instead smartphone.

Thats also very important for my decision whether to buy the Kaiser or not!
Anybody - please check and post... (would be perfect if somebody could make and record a short test call and attach it here )
Thanks a lot!

El_Mar1ach1 said:
but does it record the call partner voice too?
I know it was possible to record the whole conversation only on smarphone because of an hardware limitation in pocket pc instead smartphone.
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yes, vito audio notes records the other person's voice too. you can just record whenever, or have it automaticly record when u make or recieve a call. it has different settings of sound quality too.

mikeeey said:
yes, vito audio notes records the other person's voice too. you can just record whenever, or have it automatically record when u make or receive a call. it has different settings of sound quality too.
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I know they say that it works, but actually it doesn't for all newer HTC Pocket PCs - that's why we are asking. Anybody here who really tried it and can attach a test call (without loudspeakers turned on!)?

DoctorT said:
I know they say that it works, but actually it doesn't for all newer HTC Pocket PCs - that's why we are asking. Anybody here who really tried it and can attach a test call (without loudspeakers turned on!)?
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well i really cant see why it couldnt... but i suppose if someone tests it then it would be nice ot know

mikeeey said:
well i really cant see why it couldnt... but i suppose if someone tests it then it would be nice ot know
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well, you can see if you do some research - it's a hardware limitation as the phone audio system is not fully integrated into the Windows Mobile audio system...

This is also a feature i would like to see!
There is talk about utilising the Bluetooth Stack to record the call (both ends) but i dont know how far along it is.
Its really frustrating that the PPC phone edition isnt smarter than the 'Smartphones' that can record both ends!

Perhaps we should actually look at this a little differently.
The PPC recorders all seem to record via the mic, but how about a recorder that can record only the audio sent to the speaker! (Thus recording the other person!)

@GLO
Perhaps we should actually look at this a little differently.
The PPC recorders all seem to record via the mic, but how about a recorder that can record only the audio sent to the speaker! (Thus recording the other person!)
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The PPC recorders record via the mic because recording the audio sent to the speaker doesnt work, that is the limitation everybody is talking about. This audio routing is handled in hardware itself and software is not able to tap it in between...

shantzg001 said:
@GLO
The PPC recorders record via the mic because recording the audio sent to the speaker doesnt work, that is the limitation everybody is talking about. This audio routing is handled in hardware itself and software is not able to tap it in between...
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Hi Shantzg001,
I realise they dont record both, but i am suggesting that it would be great to find something that can only record the speaker, not the mic. Just as if you wanted to record streaming music. (that doesnt record from the mic).
I havent found anything yet that can do this but it could just be the search terms im using.

I can confirm that unless you use the speakerphone that Vito Audio Notes, as was supsected, records only the microphone (your own voice, not the other party of the call)of the phone conversation. Also the "auto record" for phone calls does not work when activated either.

Try Resco Audio Recorder, it has trial version for sure.
Some people said it works.

I tried it - you don't hear the other side of the call on the recording unless you use the speaker.

Damn
I really missed this feature (phone recording).
I hope there is a registry setting "EnablePhoneRecording" or something like that.
Do you think this is hardware limitation? Or application issue? or OS? ... hard to guess.
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I tried it - you don't hear the other side of the call on the recording unless you use the speaker.
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Worth to try this one:
http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmsp.htm

Well, I think it is not possible
Read here :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1931&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
So guys, move on ....

Working Call Recording Software for Kaiser

Does anyone know if there is any working Call Recorder software for HTC Kaiser, ive tried the Live PVR witouth luck, it doesnt work at all.
Any ideas???? Thank you very much.
PD: i know record a call may be illegal in some countries (not in mine, chile)

I use start|programs|voice recorder
it works just fine

kireol said:
I use start|programs|voice recorder
it works just fine
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isnt that working only when you trought SPEAKER ??? (i meant this way it can record incoming and outcoming voices, because i thing with the regular phone mode it would maeby only record my voice and not callers also)
and my Kaiser SPEAKER sux, i cannot talk wih anybody, nobody hear me a thing ... (half duplex mic)

nope, it works all of the time. I'm using a Tilt with austinsyncs BigStorage

kireol said:
nope, it works all of the time. I'm using a Tilt with austinsyncs BigStorage
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will give it a try, thanks for helping man!

Resco Recorder will record calls automatically. The only drawback is, it only records your voice.

This One Works Great on my HTC Wing
This should also work on the Kaiser.
Enjoy !!!
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zcink said:
This should also work on the Kaiser.
Enjoy !!!
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I tried it witouth luck, it doesn't start the Autorecording Call (option enabled), i also tried recording it manually, but i can barely hear the other side voice when i listen to the saved file.
The default Voice Recorder works the same lower way
any suggestions??????????????

kireol said:
I use start|programs|voice recorder
it works just fine
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Voice Recorder is not working, i can't barely hear the other side voice when inm listeting to the recorded file... it only grabs what came out from the mic, not like the internal line of the mic

http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp

it works on mine. maybe it's because mine's upgraded

is it clear???
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http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp
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this seems to be the better and newer solution
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1658&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
thanks demps
demps said:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp
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Wow! Upgraded hardware?!
kireol said:
it works on mine. maybe it's because mine's upgraded
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Strange how some people claim that they can record phone calls with good quality for both parties in the call, while others claim that this is not at all supported on the Kaiser and any other PPC phone made by HTC.
Surely someone must be lying! Or maybe just confused!
AFAIK, recording of both parties in a phone call is only possible when the Kaiser is in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound from the speaker!

The resco site says that if the software only records your voice and not the caller's, that's a hardware issue, it's not a software issue. So I don't know if you'll find one that records both you and the caller if you can't get even voice notes to work that way. It seems my tmobile Wing is that way.. I can only record myself unless I put them on speaker.

zcink said:
This should also work on the Kaiser.
Enjoy !!!
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please guys refrain from posting cracked apps! Thanks!

abubasim said:
Strange how some people claim that they can record phone calls with good quality for both parties in the call, while others claim that this is not at all supported on the Kaiser and any other PPC phone made by HTC.
Surely someone must be lying! Or maybe just confused!
AFAIK, recording of both parties in a phone call is only possible when the Kaiser is in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound from the speaker!
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Yup, the guys don't seem to have read my related articles (guys, DO FOLLOW MY ARTICLES in the General forum!!!!), where I've explained how one can find out whether his or her model is able to seamlessly record the other party (hint: the Kaiser, as with most other HTC Pocket PC phones, can't).

Record the onCall conversation.

Hi,
Yesterday I have seen an excellent piece of software on my friend’s Nokia phone. It is about to save the conversation.
If you are in the middle of a call or initiating a call, that software prompts you that “Do you want to save the conversation”, [YES/NO]. if "yes" it saves the audio file in the memory card. I am very impressed with it.
Guys do you know whether we have this type of software for our new WM6 device, I am using HTC TYTN II.
Thanks for the help.

Voice call's can't be recorded. Harware Issue !

Resco Audio Recorder
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.

mwpeters said:
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
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Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.

pda_crazy said:
Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/

qp_ch said:
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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Doesnt work...

Call recording softwares won't work because the OS doesn't have access to what's being sent to the phone speaker.
I don't know, however, if that would be possible using a wired/BT headset.

good is maybe LIVEPVR
I used program LIVEPVR but only on eten M600+, mio M500 and works ok(when I set microphone correctly).
On Kaiser I will use also but I must again buy this product because upgrade is no free for old user. On handango it's cost only £6.49 .
I used this soft about two year and I record a lot of phone call.

This has been discussed several times before. The only way you can record both parties in a phone call on the Kaiser is to have the phone in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound. This is true with almost all of HTC's PPC phones. One of the few that can do it is the HTC Athena. Buy it if you have plenty of money to burn and are willing to take the risk of becoming the laughing stock of your neighborhood walking around with that brick pressed to your head...

Yup, no flawless recording on the Kaiser, sorry.
Also see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Audio and call recording, answering machines for mor einfo on this subject.

What if you are using a wired/BT headset? Software can control what passes through to the headphones right? Has it been tried already?

Ive never been able to record calls with resco voice recorder on the kaiser either. It works fine on my wizard though. on the kaiser it doesnt even create a call folder while on the wizard I had a call folder with all incoming and outgoing calls.

Not that I need this function, but WOW my old treo 650 that is collecting dust can do this.

updates?
any changes on this?

Yes, there's a solution on it's way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783

Good Conversation Recorder for HTC Phones??

Hi
Have been using Resco Audio recorder and Vito Audio Notes to record phone conversation but in both the softwares i could only here my voice clearly and the other persons voice is not audible at all. I have faced this problem on ALL HTC DEVICES but the same software worked amazing on XDA Xing and ATOM. cam someone help me here as to what settings to change or what software to use for proper recording.
Thanks

all of these programs will record if the phone is on speaker.
read the documentations, as some phone do not provide duplex conversations, or something like that.
once you set the call on speaker, all works fine, but it's kind of inconvenient.

yea if i remember correctly, it has something to do with the way that the voice calling was implemented in the device that it will only record your voice.
straight from resco.net from the audio recorder page:
(Both sides recording is hardware dependent. If your recording contains voice of one side only, it is not due to the program's failure.)

On my old PPC6700 mine worked fine with the call volume all the way high, The other person sounded a bit low, but if you want you can edit the call on a PC and make them louder. It all depends how often do you plan to record your convos.

I'm recording both sides without speaker or any other hazzle...
This is what I've done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783

Do you really intend to unbury every 1+ year old topic on that subject? I think people got it by now. Make ONE thread with full relevant info, that will do it.

Need a Call Recorder for windows mobile

I have the Sony x1.
I always find myself wishing I had recorded calls.
Is there a way to have your phone automatically record all calls.
If it was just a stand alone program that needed to be activated each time I think would forget.

Try this:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-acr-auto-call-recorder.html

Same as above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472

It only works one way though...

The X1 has call recording built-in through the Notes app (also accesible through the phone dialer. Once in the Notes app, go to Menu->Use Recording Toolbar. You can record the conversation while writing into the notes app. It's unfortunate SE didn't integrate this better into the dialer app.
You can record both sides of the conversation if you use speakerphone only. Using the handset, it will only record yourself and the other end will be inaudible. I believe this is some hard limitation in the design of the phone and not something that can be overcome by software.
EDIT: Ooops, I see you want calls recorded automatically...Notes doesn't do that

How do I access the feature through the phone dialer.

If you are using the built-in SE dialer, it is the icon that looks like a sticky note with a tack through it. Pressing that will load the Notes app with the number you are dialing already inserted. From there, just follow the instructions in my previous post.
I believe once a call is initiated, you can still run notes the traditional way (Start Menu->Notes) and achieve the same thing if you have a different dialer you are using.

This functionality with notes is cute, but it only record some 30 seconds. How can I change it. Through regedit or?

One more thing: The loudness of person that I called on recording is miserable... My voice is lot louder... how can I fix this?

VelikiMeshtar said:
One more thing: The loudness of person that I called on recording is miserable... My voice is lot louder... how can I fix this?
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As stated in my first post, you have to use speakerphone to get a usable record volume from the other caller. This is inherent in the X1 design.
I don't understand why some phones have this limitation and others don't. My old Moto v60 could record both ends of the phone call perfectly without any fuss.

Nitrosoxide said:
I have the Sony x1.
I always find myself wishing I had recorded calls.
Is there a way to have your phone automatically record all calls.
If it was just a stand alone program that needed to be activated each time I think would forget.
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Look at Resco Audio Recorder.

I have tried many programs and none work perfectly so here is what i did to get perfect results:
Plug your xperia into the "Line in" port on your computer using a male to male 3.5 mm audio cable - after that i used a program like Audacity to record the call.
It records your voice and the person you are speaking to with perfect results.

^^^ That's clever, but how do you fit your computer in your pocket?