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Battery Killer: Filesys.exe 100% Load

It seems that my phone will sometimes randomly start running out of battery really fast and memmaid shows that the process filesys.exe is taking up the processor at a 100% load. I know that this is part of how windows mobile accesses its storage systems, but I doubt that it's normal. Anyone else having the same problem?
All red items have been uninstalled to see if they were the cause.
I'm running:
Touch-IT full ROM
Battery Status beta 1.04
Default Company Picture Viewer
S2U2 0.5
PocketCM Contacts 0.15
ClearTemp
OP3 ShortCode
FlashVideoBundle
Picsel Browser (Which BTW since installing has made my free space significantly shrink...)
vTap
TRE (reg editor)
memmaid demo
PocketTweak
Pocket Notepad
tGetFile.dll
PocketWeather
HTC Home
Total Commander
psShutXP
Mobile Office
hmm... That list suddently feels a lot longer than it did before. lol
But nothing is running in the background with the exception of ActiveSync.
Thanks guys
Update: Here's a list of what modules filesys.exe has loaded according to Memmaid:
Threads: 24
encfilt.dll
coredll.dll.0409.MUI
ole32.dll
sqlcese30.sys.dll
MSASN1.dll
crypt32.dll
rsaenh.dll
discache.dll
LSFILTER.dll
fsreplxfilt.dll
cachefilt.dll
fatsd.dll
cecompr.dll
HtcFsdspy.dll
imgfs.dll
mspart.dll
trueFFS.dll
Fsdmgr.dll
certmod.dll
coredll.dll
Update: It seems that the two coredll's are taking the most resources, but I can't test this out as I don't have any software that can break it down for me, except for abctaskman or whatever it's called and that's only a demo so it won't show me which module is using what other than the other of their CPU usage.
UPDATE: I thought that maybe it was a similar issue to this, but that it was running the compaction on my memory card since I had set the volatile temp to run from that... but that hit a wall as well when I made it run on the main memory again.
UPDATE: I forgot to mention that I also have the Extended ROM enabled as well.
MODS, can we please move this to one of the general forums? I'm not sure which one would be best, though....

OK, so far I've found out that it's a problem not only with this ROM but with WM5 on other devices.
Here is a patch for another device and OS. What I'm trying to figure out is what exactly he patched so we can do the same to our file for our phones.

HI !
I run the German Touch-IT Rom with S2U2 and have the same Problems. Here is what i found out:
- Battery drains in 3-4 Hours IF mortplayer has been started. I usually use Mortplayer to wake me up in the morning. My Music is stored on the SD Card, but this has always been this way.
- I have problems with the batteriy since S2U2 was installed.
-> Maybe Su2u does not suspend our Herald, so that the SD-Card is not suspended, too. Maybe filesys.exe (and with this mortplayer and also HTC Home) randomly ask if the card is still available - Which consumes a lot of power.
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What do you think ?
I will delete S2U2 when i don´t need the wakeup function this weekend

Hmm... It started around the same time that I added S2U2... I'll try to remove it and see what happens.
I temporarily disabled S2U2 but no change.
Updated with more info.

I hate to bump my own thread, but it seems that updating the thread doesn't bring it up any higher. I wonder if anyone else was having the same exact issue?
I'm determined to solve this problem, as it brings my battery life to a sad 6 hours if the EDGE is on, about 9 hours when it's not. And that's with me underclocking it half the time... and the screen brightness down... and with the phone in "hybernate" or whatever you call the screen being off most of the day...

S2U2 actually did dramatically decrease my battery life... Uninstalling fixed it. Just thought I'd say that; I don't know anything about your other issues, sorry.

I have the same problem too on a mda vario (wizard) with wm6 rom(Dutch version) more info about the rom: http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/350255/
I have been searching around for a solution. But I could not find one.
Here is my list of the modules filesys.exe has loaded according to Memmaid:
Threads: 17
encfilt.dll
coredll.dll.0409.MUI
ole32.dll
sqlcese30.sys.dll
MSASN1.dll
crypt32.dll
rsaenh.dll
discache.dll
fsreplxfilt.dll
cachefilt.dll
fatsd.dll
cecompr.dll
HtcFsdspy.dll
imgfs.dll
mspart.dll
trueFFS.dll
Fsdmgr.dll
certmod.dll
coredll.dll
Does anyone have found a solution for this problem?

whixh general??
there is "development and hacking" or "modifying and upgrading" i´m also NOT sure

S2U2 has also caused a battery drain on my wing as well. As i am sure it is the #1 reason my wing will crash (lock up) then when i reboot the wing it freezez permently on the password screen. i have tried numberious soft resets. with and without the microsd in... eventually i have to hard reset!

all applications that is running on your homescreen is consuming battery, because its constantly loaded in memory.
If you want a battery that last long, you need to remove sd-card, htc home, cube, touchflo, point-ui or w/e you use to make your device look cool.
you can put it this way, the more stuff you have, the more cool stuf you have, the faster is your battery draining. Ofcourse you can run BS and set up your device with tweaks and w/e, but in the end it all comes to what you want, lasting battery or a "cool" looking device.
In my personal rom, I use htc home, I like it. I use actionscreen and random acces. I have BS to configure battery usage, I deleted EVERYTHING that I dont use in the rom, and yes, it last way longer then fully or moderate loaded roms, but im sure if I kept only basic os, i could prolong battery with a day or two, but I dont need that. I have a device that is compatible to run so many cool things, and I have it because of the many features.
If you can figure out what you want to use in a daily basis, and you can manage to stay away from the heavy eyecandy-stuff (wich you keep to impress your friends) then you can have a longer batterylife

hi guys,
i had the same problem with S2U2, but since i use the cpu-scaler in battery status it's ok.
My battery lifes 3-4 days.
My settings from cpu-scaler: 130 - 201 - 234 without boost.
so i hope this will help you to cause your problem.

mxstyles said:
hi guys,
i had the same problem with S2U2, but since i use the cpu-scaler in battery status it's ok.
My battery lifes 3-4 days.
My settings from cpu-scaler: 130 - 201 - 234 without boost.
so i hope this will help you to cause your problem.
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3-4 days!? is that with no data usage, no talking, pretty much letting ur phone just sit on the table? because the ABSOLUTE most i can get is 1 1/2 days. That sounds a lil too extreme...

did someones try filesys patcher from aximsite?
i'm using gprs over bt always on, a2dp (3-4hours daily), ~50 sms, opera mini and mobilegadu (im) and after 20hours i still got ~40% on this battery and this unit. i had another herald earlier and it was not possible to have 12hours without charging...
and btw - ive got s2u2 running all time and after it is cooked into rom its not using so much energy..
but a2dp draining more battery than on other devices (wizard, universal...)

nKiwan said:
3-4 days!? is that with no data usage, no talking, pretty much letting ur phone just sit on the table? because the ABSOLUTE most i can get is 1 1/2 days. That sounds a lil too extreme...
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no, i uses my phone every day for 20min calling, 30sms and 1 hour gprs internet.

I used to have O2 Neo as my device, and when I tried to install "some apps from HTC rom", I notice a warning about battery drain bug of HTC Camera from some mods and admins in another forum.
Now I owned a HTC P4350 and have HTC Camera as defaul camera app on ROM. My battery always drains above 100mA or even 300mA . Do you think that it's caused by the HTC Camera appplication ? any idea how to remove it from ROM ????

mxstyles said:
hi guys,
i had the same problem with S2U2, but since i use the cpu-scaler in battery status it's ok.
My battery lifes 3-4 days.
My settings from cpu-scaler: 130 - 201 - 234 without boost.
so i hope this will help you to cause your problem.
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Hello
Here the same. After I uninstalled S2U2 the battery was longer full.
Regards, Tommy

I seem to also have a problem with S2U2 on the LGKS20. Its a pity because its not just eye candy - its the only app I ever found that prevents accidental answer etc.. I also had massive battery drain with SPB mobile shell. bummer

Massive memory leakage

Right another thing ive noticed tonight...and i would have thought HTC would have solved this but seems like they couldnt care less.
Left my phone on charge at 6pm and went downstairs to watch some TV...anyways i came upstairs at about 12 and turned the phone on....it was in sleep mode like it normally does. Anyways looked at my screen and saw that the internet connection was still alive even though i specified that it should disconn after 1 min of idling. I also found the phone to be extremely sluggish....touchflow slowed right to a crawl. I opened up the the status and looked at the memory and it was down to 23mb!!!...no bloody wonder it wasnt snappy lol. Now this is where it gets interesting because really i had nothing running on the phone...always make sure all tasks are killed off. The only thing that was running was my gmail polling which takes place every hr or so...so dont know if that was causing a massive memory leak.
Im running it with the 1.37 uk stock rom as its a uk spec diamond...i looked through the task manager and couldnt see anything running.
So has anyone found this with the 1.37 rom??..i was going to flash to the new TLR 1.37 rom but just havent had time...has that rom fixed the memory loss.
Dont get me wrong, i still love the device...i restarted the phoen and all was well but over the past few hrs ive been watching the status of the memory and its slowly getting lower and lower. To be honest ive never come across a phone with such a bad case of memory leakage...ive owned most of the SE smartphones...P800, P900, P910i and P990c and i never found them to be as bad as the Diamond. But the good thing about those phones is that SE usually put out a new firmware to sort the memory leakage problems.
So i was just wondereing if anyone found their devices suffering from massive memory leakage....i know its WM thats causing it...
Just to give you an example....i re-started my phone about an hr ago and it was at 50 odd free mb...less than an hr later its at 40.85 mb free...and 72mb are being used...

Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!

You could try something: turn off Flow and see if you still get a leak.
I loved the look of the interface, but was forever actioning wrong items/ringing wrong people/whatever. I dropped it and went beck to SPB Mobile Shell (which I had been using on my 'good old' P3600i). I have never seen any leak.

I've noticed this too.
If I click on the little task manager icon in the top right corner as soon as the phone is rebooted it displays about 50% roughly. As the day goes on, its up at about 75% - and I have no programs running at all. The only thing I've used through the day is Texting and a bit of Opera.
It seems the phone needs rebooted every day or 2...
I'm also running the UK 1.37 ROM

Hi,
Does Hibernate help reclaim the lost RAM?
Regards

Hello,
You know, the memory leak problem exists since Windows Mobile 6.0. I had it with my previous Eten X500+. Unfortunately, it has not been fixed with WM 6.1. This is a microsoft problem, not HTC...
Philippe

salada2k said:
Hi Spawn,
I've tried every ROM available and none of them fix the memory leak. After some time, a soft reset is necessary to get the TouchFLO 3D 'performance' back. My biggest gripe, is that when returning to the home screen, and watching the hour and minutes 'flop over' the hour part stutters a little bit. The only ROM I've had no stutter with is the Middle East ROM, and even then after some time the memory leak gets worse and it starts stuttering again. *Really* annoys me. Surely it cant be that hard to make that little animation look smooth and fluid.
HTC really need to get off their collective asses and fix this.
In the meantime, thank god for xda-developers.com!
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Yep thats what my diamond was doing...it was having a hard time with the clock.
Anyways seems like we are stuck with this memory leak till HTC release a rom which rectifies or wait for someone to cook up a rom which will rectify the memory leak. Only other gripe i have other than the memory leak is the battery but thats not too bad.
Guess ill just have to re-start the phone every so often. I disabled emailing polling as that seemed to cause it to hang a bit ie the connection stays on even though ive told it to disconn after a min of idling.
Hibernate as far as i know doesnt help the situation as my phone last night was in sleep mode.

I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...

raphaelc said:
I have this issue also, and I have to restart the phone once every two days to free up the memory. I think I know where this comes from : TouchFlo3D records every action you make to optimize the use the next time you boot
or not...
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Yeh after doing a few more tests, it seems like tfl3d is right resource hog...it just wants to take over everything. Im hoping future rom releases optimises the tfl3d but like you im resorting to restart the phone every other day or else it just becomes unuseable.
Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...surely they could see this being a problem ie tfl3d eating up memory like a rabid wolverine.
Thank god for XDA though, at least ill be happy in the knowledge that someone here will be able to figure out this mem leakage and sort it out fingers crossed.

Spawn12 said:
Its shocking how bad HTC are with their QC control...
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it must be the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista

raphaelc said:
it must the same dream team which Q-checked windows vista
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LOL...well i run vista ultimate on my laptop and its not that bad...M$ and HTC really dont have a clue when it comes to mem leakage...even in WM6 and before it was apparent that memory leakage is a problem..they really need to address the memory leakage problem....i just wish they would do so rather than ignore the problem altogether.

I've changed the clock to the non-flipping one... it seems to make the TouchFlo a bit smoother as it has less 3D to cope with. You certainly notice it after a day when pressing the Home key - its much quicker!

[Q]GPS running in background, even when closed?

I've noticed something strange. When I start up my phone the process mem is about 50%. (using hardSpl 1.40 unsigned and SwiftBL 1.55)
After I start the gps up (tomtom 7) and then close it the memory goes up and stays at about 60%.
If I reboot the phone its back to 50%.
It seems that the gps is active somewhere in the background.
Is this an issue anyone else seems to have? And is there any way to terminate gps so it wont suck memory?

I wouldn't say it's the GPS still active, it could just be bad memory management by WM.

Does using Oxios Hibernate help?
I read an article about WMs memory management that stated that the OS doesn't claim back RAM until it's needed by other things.

I did try with oxios hibernate and it doesn't really seem to help. Seems that all programs used makes the memory amount used before starting it, bigger after closing it. Any solution for this? A soft reset (eg. rebooting) will make the memory normal but isn't there any better way?

Memory Leak issue

Hi, My Diamond seems to have memory leak issue.
I soft reset my device, the memory is 55% but after a activesyn the memory become 60%. If i open any program, the memory go up and will not release after the program is closed.
Any solutions?

Same solution as with any PC? Reboot.
My Diamond has been up to 70% memory, without any programs running.

This is why i think the RAM of Touch Diamond is not enough.
didn't run anything, but still got 65% or higher RAM usage. even with a Lite rom.
it sucks.

mooder said:
Hi, My Diamond seems to have memory leak issue.
I soft reset my device, the memory is 55% but after a activesyn the memory become 60%. If i open any program, the memory go up and will not release after the program is closed.
Any solutions?
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Make sure the application is closed, rather than minimized. Minimize an application has the benefit of being able to re-start quicker the next time. Closing (quiting) the application has the benefit of releasing the memory, if not all.

this is a WM6.1 issue not your diamond.

Guys, are there any tools which can let us check which applications or processes are occupying memory?

telee said:
Guys, are there any tools which can let us check which applications or processes are occupying memory?
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wktask and it free

Blazeitup123 said:
wktask and it free
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I just have it installed but so far I cannot find what I want.
How can I get the list of processes running in the background, just like what we usually do with Ctrl+Alt+Del in Windows?

GSeeker said:
This is why i think the RAM of Touch Diamond is not enough.
didn't run anything, but still got 65% or higher RAM usage. even with a Lite rom.
it sucks.
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What programs do you have that wont run on 35% free ram?
even with 72% usage you still have over 30 megs free!
I have never had a problem running an app on my Diamond due to lack of ram.
How often are you seeing the "Not enough available ram" message?
Jules

Yeah I get the same sort of problem to,
Throughout the day, connecting my Diamond to my laptop at work, use activesync, update the weather, sending texts and also looking at pictures on my phone, and playing the occasional game, my memory will get to about 65% free.
Yes I can continue to use my phone, and its not a major problem but its a niggle that could do with being sorted.
When the memory usage gets to 70% I then Soft Reset the Device as this always speeds it up.
It is the best Windows Mobile phone ive owned, and I use the Soft Reset function alot less on my Diamond than I have before.
However it would be nice to own a Diamond without having to Soft Reset it so often. The memory leak issue needs to be fixed Microsoft!!!!!!! Take note!

ZaJules said:
What programs do you have that wont run on 35% free ram?
even with 72% usage you still have over 30 megs free!
I have never had a problem running an app on my Diamond due to lack of ram.
How often are you seeing the "Not enough available ram" message?
Jules
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When your diamond is with 70% or higher ram usage, try to play a song and then open the opera or IE, they will lag your music. You still think 30MB ram is that much?

GSeeker said:
When your diamond is with 70% or higher ram usage, try to play a song and then open the opera or IE, they will lag your music. You still think 30MB ram is that much?
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Yip just did that
Memory was on 79% with Icontacts and Second Today Phone Alarm and Pocket Breez running
Started a song in Manila Music (Korn YAY!!!) listening on A2DP via my Plantronics 855 then opened a web site in Opera. as Opera was opening the song jumped twice for a split second and then played fine. I surfed a few sites and skipped songs using the headset controls all without problems Then I took a call and had one on hold all without a hitch, after I ended the second call the music started up again and I opened a new website
By now the memory was at 88% and it still worked fine.
Don't know if its the Rom I'm using (Shine On 1.5) but my device seems to cope with its ram with no problems. Even with only 13megs free ram Manila was as responsive as with 40megs free.
Jules

Filesys.exe taking almost 95% of CPU, help!

filesys.exe remains at 16.4mb.. and wondering if this is normal or how to reduce it to normal? Or any fix to this?

royalbloodvi said:
filesys.exe remains at 16.4mb.. and wondering if this is normal or how to reduce it to normal? Or any fix to this?
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I think its normal, it uses 16.3mb in my xperia...

Huh?? Not for me. It takes 2129kb.
Cool eh?

That's defniately not taking up 95% of its ram though, considering it has like 200.48 MB of program memory. Check your programs running, make sure you dont have alot of stuff running, and restart your phone. If it starts up and stays at 95%, youve got a problem. Either alot of apps are opening at the start for some strange reason, or youve got a very screwed up ROM.

im using gttrab's barebone r3.6. very stable.
one thing i noticed was: when i take out storage card, filesys.exe: 7mb.
doesnt ANYBODY have this problem too?
im just running normal stuff, spb shell, voice command, s2u2. thats it....