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New Google Maps Mobile!

version 1.7.1.4 nice new look
http://mobile.google.com

Loaded and can't say I see much difference? Are the satellite views now hibrid, not sure if street names were on them before. Other than that I don't see the "new".

new directions view - turn by turn list with option to view map turn by turn
new transition slide to next direction
new iphone-esque plop down of location pin (callout)
new context menu for locations - click on a pizza shop after searching
new hybrid satellite view
new landmark labels in above view
double click to zoom (might have been in previous versions)
more
did you even use it for more than 10 seconds?

Steveborough said:
new directions view - turn by turn list with did you even use it for more than 10 seconds?
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ummmm, well... yes, but obviously not enough, maybe 5 minutes. I did a simple search for FedEx Kinkos and I guess I missed the "Plop down". These are all great additions, it was just subtle to me. I've been using Live Search more and forgot the details of Google.
I wish Both Google and Live Search could add a "Heading Up" choice for mobile use and perhaps some hot key mapping.

I love Google. I wish I had held onto what I bought of it when it was $86/ share.
Why can't they add an "Update Available" option as on Live Search?

is the short GPS timeout fixed ?

New google maps - 1.7.1.4 - Get it Here
Uploaded it for you guys :
http://rapidshare.com/files/68506543/GoogleMaps_1.7.1.4.CAB
working great on my Kasier.
Enjoy,
NAdavi

whats the difference with this one?

...but doesn't exist an app like GPSTuner but that download/use/cache GoogleMaps images, and draw on it tracks, waypoints ecc ecc???
GpsTuner can use google maps, but you have to download it with the pc, then calibrate it. Will be fine if GPSTuner download in auto google maps images and draw on it

Looks like they integrated the "find location" and "find buisness" into one search function
The directions overview is different
seems a lil faster, but still no drag and drop re-routing. it would also be nice if the program didn't kill itself if I lost data for a sec
edit: I see this was covered in another thread

If Google would just add voice.... WOW!

draxredd said:
is the short GPS timeout fixed ?
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Seems they did

hguiraud said:
Seems they did
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Hmm, I'd say yes and no. I had to retry once before it aquired a lock. They've increased it, but it needs to be a little longer for a cold start I think.

Hi!
the previous version put me within 10 feet of where I was standing,
the new version, with my standing in the same place, puts me more than 50 feet away !
I am sure someone into GPS can explain better than I can....
Ofiaich

ofiaich said:
Hi!
the previous version put me within 10 feet of where I was standing,
the new version, with my standing in the same place, puts me more than 50 feet away !
I am sure someone into GPS can explain better than I can....
Ofiaich
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That could just be coincidence. The precision of your location is a function of how many satellites your GPS unit has a lock on at any given moment. To really compare, you'd have to have made sure that a similar number of satellite locks were achieved when the measurement is made. And just cuz you are in the same spot doesn't guarantee that you had the same number.
I guess its possible that somehow the new version is "screwed up", but not as likely as the explanation above.
Oh, and yes it does seem like the GPS timeout issue is resolved or at least MUCH better. I hadn't used my GPS on my Kaiser in a few days, and yesterday, I was able to just test the "track my location" feature in the new Google maps. It waited for about a minute for the GPS to start up and get sat locks, then showed my location. So it didn't even ask me to retry. It just worked. The previous version would never do this.
But alas, no voice feature like in Live yet, but still its an improvement.

woudl you guys switch from live search to this new version?

I have installed and use both. Personally, i like Google's better for most purposes. Its a simpler, cleaner interface, with much less clicks req'd. So, I can use it while on the road more easily. Live is more robust, esp with the new voice and gas features. but it bothers me that I have to tap so many times just to get a map of some place.

Is there any way to have the map auto rotate when you are using GPS so you are always traveling UP on the screen?

Twenty4 said:
Is there any way to have the map auto rotate when you are using GPS so you are always traveling UP on the screen?
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Not that I know of, in either app. Only true route guidance apps, like TomTom or TeleNav do that currently...

jomo25 said:
Not that I know of, in either app. Only true route guidance apps, like TomTom or TeleNav do that currently...
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Hopefully that will be in the next update.

What GPS software - carpark finder?

Hi,
I'm trying to look for something that does a simple task - record where my car is when I leave the carpark, and I can then recall that location later to get to my car if I'm lost (I have a VERY bad sense of direction, in fact, you can almost say I have no sense of direction ).
I've been looking at something like the Vito Navigator, which seems to do what I want, but it seems a bit of an overkill for such a simple task... don't need fancy things like voice navigation etc, maybe just a compass saying that my car is, say, 200m to the North of where I am? Does anyone know any simple program that does this? Many thanks in advance

i'd like this, too!! 1+

This simple program might work. Haven't tested it but the description says "mark the places of interest"
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...178310&productId=178310&detailTab=description

or try this one:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-nonigpsplot-v2-72.html

Why not just get a satnav software with POIs?

teddyen66 said:
or try this one:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-nonigpsplot-v2-72.html
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Its not a CAB!

BlancoJr said:
This simple program might work. Haven't tested it but the description says "mark the places of interest"
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...178310&productId=178310&detailTab=description
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Saw that program, don't think it's that much different than Vito Navigator, but thanks anyway
teddyen66 said:
or try this one:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-nonigpsplot-v2-72.html
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I also tried that (yes I have tried a LOT of programs yesterday ), that seems to be the closest to what I'm after at the moment... it's free so that's a big thumbs up from me
Syphon Filter said:
Why not just get a satnav software with POIs?
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I have TomTom and Garmin XT installed on my Diamond at the moment, and yes they would do the job just fine, except that in both software, it takes ages to mark a point. Imagine getting out of the car, then standing there for a minute or two trying to mark a point in the software indicating where your car is! (ok maybe not that long, but you know what I mean).

dan168 said:
I also tried that (yes I have tried a LOT of programs yesterday ), that seems to be the closest to what I'm after at the moment... it's free so that's a big thumbs up from me
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or you can try www.nav4all.com
it's free too and has a button called "remember parking"
it is a complete navigation program so it's at bit more complex, but easy to use.

UTM MGRS Navigation

Does anyone here know if there is software available to navigate with UTM-MGRS waypoints? preferably with map display (like Googlemaps).
It doesn't necessarily have to navigate, but only point out what possition I am at now, and in what direction and at what range my next waypoint is.
if so, where?
The idea is;
That i'm able to put in UTM-MGRS data as waypoint, and it will insert it into the map (with a dot/star anything).
After that it needs to be able to display the map with the waypoints on it, and at what range and in which direction the waypoint is. (range/direction is preferably, not necessarily)
Why I'm asking for UTM-MGRS;
i'm in the militairy but the GPS software i'm working with atm is quite outdated,
TTFF is at 6 minuts (if you're lucky).
I navigate quite often, so a fast accurate working GPS is really welcome!
if anyone could help me, please do!
if been looking all around the net, but couldnt find anything

un1ty,
Whats up i've been looking for this solution for the some time too and havent found anything yet! i've ended up just taking my handheld Garmin with me and pray i can get a signal inside a metal ice box (plgrs suck!)
best of luck man

I think OziExplorerCE should do what you want.

chunkdaddy00 said:
un1ty,
Whats up i've been looking for this solution for the some time too and havent found anything yet! i've ended up just taking my handheld Garmin with me and pray i can get a signal inside a metal ice box (plgrs suck!)
best of luck man
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NoniGPSplot did it for me.
not quite what i really wanted, but it works.
shows grid coordinate, and able to plot waypoints in UTM MGRS.
although it doesnt show the right timezone, it does display the right gridcoordinate

[App]Cinemo(Beta 2 Release 3) - Movie Showtimes for Touch Pro and Diamond

The new thread for Cinemo is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516695

If you download it, could you please let me know what you think about it? This is my first WinMo app and I would like it to be as great as it can be.
Thanks in advanc,
Daniel Gary

I love where this app could go.
Suggestions:
* Rotten Tomstoes or Metacritic ratings and sortings
* Favorite theater settingd
* Next day or week times
* Imdb link
Thanks for the program!

Wow. pretty good app. its not heavy and closes easily. is this seriously your first? the only thing it lacks that i could think of is landscape support and a mileage option so i can search a few miles outside of my zip. im in st louis so i have the option of theaters in illinois and missouri. it wont read both. but thats nitpicking on my part. great app. and good timing also. my pocket express movie showtimes expired today...

Looks like is for USA only; any plans for a worldwide version?

I tried to install in a spanish rom touch pro. The installation was ok, but when I try to open the app it gives an error...
I`m very interesting in this app...
Thank you in advance
Regards

@jesusishere
I love your ideas for the most part. I am not sure I can pull next day or next week showtimes(it depends on if a theater reports them early or not). But I certainly like the idea of a rotten tomatoes or metacritic score and an imdb link. Thanks for the input!
@justin747
I hadn't really considered landscape support that necessary since it doesn't require in text input throughout the app. What would you use it for exactly?
@DANDANA
I would love to implement a worldwide version. It's certainly something to think about
@jrbarricane
What error did you get when you opened the app?

Well, if i try to open the app without a connection, it gives me an error, but I can't tell you becouse it says that i need to have the .neterrormeseges... or something like that, installed (not the .net 3.5 that I do have it...).
If I open the app with a connetion (activesync or wifi) then it opens, but when I try to see the file of a movie, then gives me same error...
Sorry for my horrible english... I do my best...

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Well, if i try to open the app without a connection, it gives me an error, but I can't tell you becouse it says that i need to have the .neterrormeseges... or something like that, installed (not the .net 3.5 that I do have it...).
If I open the app with a connetion (activesync or wifi) then it opens, but when I try to see the file of a movie, then gives me same error...
Sorry for my horrible english... I do my best...
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Yes, I just found the issue with movies with no showtimes in the area giving an error. I'm working to fix it right now.

also do you think you could possibly add:
Directions to the theater?
searching by specific movie? (To see where it is playing)
Searching by specific theater? (That one special theater you like)
Ill let you know of anything else i can think of.

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also do you think you could possibly add:
Directions to the theater?
searching by specific movie? (To see where it is playing)
Searching by specific theater? (That one special theater you like)
Ill let you know of anything else i can think of.
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"Searching by specific movie"
Isn't that how it works right now? You scroll to the movie you want, pick it, and there is a dropdown box of theaters to pick from?
As to the theaters, that is certainly something I have been planning on. It shouldn't take too much work.

yeah sorry i just did not realize the drop down box lol. Good work i love the app so far.

Outstanding application! Works fine on my Touch Pro.
Many Thanks!

I was thinking about writing something just like this. Awesome job. Where do you get your theater list?

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@jesusishere
I love your ideas for the most part. I am not sure I can pull next day or next week showtimes(it depends on if a theater reports them early or not). But I certainly like the idea of a rotten tomatoes or metacritic score and an imdb link. Thanks for the input!
@justin747
I hadn't really considered landscape support that necessary since it doesn't require in text input throughout the app. What would you use it for exactly?
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Yea good point. i used it earlier today with great results. didnt even notice landscape was missing. i love the simplicity of it. i can find a movie time in like 20 seconds.

sorry... double post

works for canada?

I used to spend so much time trying to find movies in google through opera mobile!!
Way to go

how do you "enter" or select the new zip code, i see how to enter a new one, but not how to make that the zip code to find movies for
thanks

is this for the usa only??? cause im in australia and we only have 4 number postcodes.. hey can some1 try this for me plzz and reply back to see if it works with australia.. postcode 4001 thanks

SatNav software roundup

So since moving to Android I have been trying to find "the perfect satnav" - but so far I've not had much luck and I find myself chopping and changing between the several that are available.
I'm used to TomTom Navigator 7 on Windows Mobile, which although was very basic, worked very well and did most things I needed. Unfortunately I can't seem to find the right balance on Android.
In researching this, I thought it would be useful to write up a quick post on the pros and cons I have found with each - and maybe others can throw in their 2 cents and other ideas - as well as hopefully suggestions on how I can get the most out of it.
So lets get started!
1. Google Maps Navigation
This is my joint favourite at the moment. The very best feature is that I can google search for an address, postcode or even place name and it will find it and get me there (though sometimes it's not too accurate!). I also like that once you arrive at the destination it will load up a StreetView picture of what I am supposed to be looking for - which is a really neat feature.
Obviously the disadvantages are that it gobbles up data, and that it's not exactly the most advanced in terms of features. Basic SatNav stuff like Points of Interest, Favourites and Speed Cameras are missing - which makes me somewhat sad. Also the UI, while very clean and functional, is missing some key items I have come to expect.
2. HTC Locations
This had a lot of potential, but it's unfortunately completely ruined by a couple of issues. Better start with the Pros. Obvious one is cached maps. Also the compass support, ease of access to maps and the ability to use google search are big plusses. However, it's seriously hampered by the lack of Postcode Lookup. Such a basic and well-used feature lacking from a SatNav product is just plain unacceptable. Also the "Footprints" system of favourites is pretty horrible to use and I can't see why having a basic faves system that actually works isn't implemented.
The "online store" for obtaining new maps and features is flaky at best. I don't know if I have done it wrong, but traffic information is non-existent, speed cameras didn't seem to load properly and because of this I am reluctant to spend any more cash on it due to the risk that it might not work!
3. Sygic Aura
A relative newcomer, I quite like the menus and the road display. Has all the sort of support I would expect, with speed cameras and the like available if required. Postcode Lookup and an interesting POI system exist too.
However, the biggest issue I have with this is the fruity routes it tries to take me down. Again I don't know if I've done it wrong, but on a trip from Birmingham to Poole, it completely avoided the motorways and I could not find a way to get it to use them. Bit of a let down as this could have been a good one.
4. Navigon
I don't give this enough credit, and I think it's probably because of the UI. In reality this is a very capable SatNav solution. It has good points of interest, good favourites, contact search, built-in google search. It also has a very nice routing engine and offers you up to 3 choices for your route, along with a recommendation. The safety camera support, however, is pretty poor (and doesn't support popular 3rd party databases like a lot of others do). The UI, like I say, is the biggest issue though. A questionable black and orange scheme with randomly low resolution icons. The main navigation display is very bare and seems to only be able to display one piece of information at once, so to switch between speed and arrival time, you need to touch the screen, which is not good at all.
5. CoPilot
This is my other joint favourite. CoPilot has a pretty comprehensive UI, support for POI, favourites, postcode lookup and also web search (not sure what engine it uses though). It also does support external safety camera databases (though importing them is a bit of a headache - due to a bug in CoPilot it seems). The routing is average, and does tend to sometimes send me along a strange route. The navigation display is quite good, and is the closest to what I would like from a SatNav on Android, but still not perfect. In fact, it's a little too advanced. There seems to be a bit of clutter and the menus appear as overlays rather than whole screens which means things are a bit more fiddly to press. Again, you can really only display 2 pieces of information at once, which is better than most but still a bit annoying.
I have had it lock up on me a few times as well, which is horrible in busy city centres when you are taking lots of turns.
One other thing worth mentioning is that the keyboard entry is buggy, and does not support holding down on letters to get numbers (detects it as 2 presses of that letter instead) with the Sense keyboard.
Any comments, tips, amendments, ideas or suggestions are welcome!

news from htc
Hi, I've had the same issue, trying to find a sat nav app... if it weren't for the fact that it gobbled data I would use google nav!
I've been using HTC locations which is nice apart from the fact that it won't let me use a postcode, becoming rather frustrated I fired off a grumpy email to HTC only to get a friendly reply advising me that postcode lookup is a feature that will be added in a future update.
Once we get this update I'll pay the full fee as it integrates so well with the phone when receiving calls etc.
Hope that helps

Thank your for your guide!
I am currently testing CoPilot Live 8.2, Navigon 3.5.3 and Sygic 2.0 (don't have the latest version unfortunately). Here are my initial views:
CoPilot Live 8
My impression of CoPilot is not that good. The user interface is way too advanced and complicated. Navigating through the menus takes a long time to learn (compared to the others at least), and is not very intuitive. There are several ways to reach the same settings, and it makes the configuration very complex. It has very annoying voice guidance in Norwegian. The voice starts almost every sentence with "Just ahead". Navigation interface is ok, but the information bar icons in landscape mode are too small. The deal breaker for me however is that, out of the three, it does the worst job in guiding you. I was unable to configure CoPilot to choose the optimal route from home to work. No matter which settings I tried I was always directed through downtown instead of using the ringways (No motorways allowed?). It also seems that the maps are a little imprecise. When driving home I arrived at my destination 500 meteres before I was home. (Navigon in this test was spot on, giving me notice as I'm driving into the garage.) On the plus side it has the best POI functionality of all apps I have tested!
Navigon
Navigon may lack some features, but it works, and even though the interface is simple, it is my preferred solution as of today. I like that it gives me a choice of which route to take before starting. Navigation seems reliable and instructions are given in good time so you don't miss your exit. Navigon is well integrated with contacts, so choosing a contact and navigation to him/her is easy. POI functionality is OK, but integration in navigation mode is not the best. It does however have good search functionality, which includes Google Search, and it gets positive remarks for reality scanner. Navigation interface is a little boring and there is no full screen view (status bars on top and bottom make the navigation window smaller than Sygic's full screen) Voice directions language is not configurable, it just uses system language, which is bad for me since I'm using English. It’s just to annoying to hear an english voice guide me thorugh Norwegian street names.
Sygic Aura
Sygic Aura has, by far, the best graphical interface in navigation mode. Menus are simple but functional, unfortunately it also has some issues with selecting the optimal route, but it does a better job than CoPilot. I don't like that I have to choose default route calculation in settings (Fastest, shortest or most economical), not for each trip, as it sometimes gives questionable route suggestions, and navigation through the city proved to be unreliable as it tried to guide me the wrong direction in a one-way street! Very good lane assistant, and information bar shows everything you need. Tunnel simulation is also very good. Voice guidance is the best of the three. Nice POI features, but slightly inferior to CoPilot. All in all it would have been my preferred solution, if it didn’t fail in route selection. (My hopes are that Sygic will solve navigation issues and add the possibility to choose optimum route before starting your journey) Please note that I used version 2.0 in this test. Latest version is 2.1.2.
Google Navigation is not available in Norway, besides, I don't have an unlimited data plan, so I am dependant on an offline navigation solution.
I have not tested extensively, so I cannot comment on how well these solution recalculates routes, integrates with phone features if you receive a call or performs over time. However, the short tests are done as similar as possible between the three, with the same routes, time of day, and with the same planned detours.
Conclusion
For now I will stick to Navigon, but I will not uninstall Sygic, as updates may fix the problems I experienced. The best from both would have been a perfect solution!
P.S. NDrive 10 was also briefly tested, first impressions was not good: User- and navigation interface was bad, even worse than Navigon in my opinion. Route calculation was similar to CoPilot, so not the best there either. I didn't like it at all, so I uninstalled after a short test drive.
P.P.S Heres is my other thread about SatNav software. No reviews here, but a nice poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874988

Hello,
Why did nobody talk about iGo myWay?
For me the most important is map quality. I mean, lack of secondary roads or small streets.
I have tested Locations, iGo, Sygic and copilot. In Switzerland and France, copilot has very bad maps, a lot of streets missing. Locations has also incomplete maps. Sygic has good maps and iGo the most complete.
Second quality is the ease of reading :
Sygic Aura is the best (a little like TomTom on windows) . Important informations on one glance.
igo has a very big keyboard. it can be useful.
Betelgeuse74, I have Sigic Aura 2.1 and a lot of bugs has been corrected. You can program a very complicated itinerary. the problem is how to save it if you want to use it later : you have to use a file manager and save a file called "itinerar.dat" which is destroyed each time you create a new itinerary (I spoke about it in the other thread : here
it is very useful for me as biker. I never take highways. I organize complicated itineraries including beautiful sceneries.
I'm sure it must be possible to do the same with iGo, as I have not yet investigated the subject.

Thanks for your input.
iGo is unfortunately not available in Android Market in Norway, so I have not been able to test.

I'd like to try it too, but I can't see it in Market either...

I have tried Sygic Aura which I think has too low resolution in menus. The bad integration with contacts is pretty bad as well. Navigate to picture seamed nice, but didn’t work.
Navigon is what I’m using right now. Good contact integration is the best feature.
But I don’t like the low resolution, blurred maps and that I cant pinch-to-zoom.
(3.5.2 seems ti fix a few low resolution icons.)
CoPilot looks really nice and has nice UI. The minus here is that I cant change UI colour. RED/BLUE doesn’t feel right. Id like a black or a more "designish" colour. Seems

Used Sygic as a test today on my way to work, and decided to drive the route it suggested.
I have configured it to use the quickest route, but I ended up using double the time compared to the route Navigon recommends.
Sygic gets me where I want to go, and in the end that is what's important. Hopefully future releases will improve route calculation, because this is my only real complaint with Sygic.
Navigon is still my favourite, because in spite of lacking a few features, it is very solid and easy to use, and I agree with contact integration. Also I just love the Google Search integration. Yesterday I searched for a store I was going to, and it lead me right there, with no detours on the way (yeah, I knew where I was going )

So far it's seeming like Aura would be everyone's top choice if it wasn't for it's utterly obscure route-planning!
Hopefully someone from Sygic is paying attention and they can get it sorted!

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So far it's seeming like Aura would be everyone's top choice if it wasn't for it's utterly obscure route-planning
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...and the delay to choose contacts . about 45 sec. for 900 contacts... (it is instant with Google Maps!)

...and some small streets missing (comparting with iGo maps)...

Anyone tried the new Sygic 3.0? Did it improve on route calculation?
Thanks.

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Anyone tried the new Sygic 3.0? Did it improve on route calculation?
Thanks.
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Sygic doesn't work anymore with Gingerbread update on DHD! it's a shame

On my Desire Z (Android 2.2, Froyo) it runs well. Actually, it runs better then ever.
But I haven't been able to use the navigation to Contacts, but that's because I have a lot of contacts, and I'm not patient enough to wait each to until the list is filled with the contacts.
In my point of view, Sygic lacks a few features:
- import/export POI (for instance kml, csv or ov2 file)
- choose the types of road (on a holiday I prefer to avoid all highways, so explore the countryside). Indeed, with the new version it's quite easy to avoid 1 highway, but in some cases it will guide you to another highway.
- faster contact browsing
- maybe add a feature to allow "touristic" driving, so only secundary roads (no highways) are selected.
- maybe propose several calculated routes to choose from (like google maps on the PC does).
Patrick

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Sygic doesn't work anymore with Gingerbread update on DHD! it's a shame
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The trial for 3.0 runs on my DHD with all the details in my Sig...
Route planning is better, but still not right. Still does some funny things for no raisin
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

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The trial for 3.0 runs on my DHD with all the details in my Sig...
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A little information to avoid confusion:
RCMix uses a different framework since it is based on a Kingdom ROM Port.
ROMs build on the official release for Desire HD, like Android Revolution and LeeDrOiD (to name the ones that I have tested) does not work.
According to Sygic this is a known issue, and they are working on a new update that will fix this issue.
(Information can be found on Sygic's website.)

tried PAPAGO X5? not bad for android phones.

Just my opinion... I have a lot of experience in Navi on win CE (PNA) and thought of dumping my good old moov for Desire HD but it seems Android is missing good navigation software....
Copilot can't "get through" only on the 1st impression. I just installed it, played 5 minutes and it went to trash. Oh my god, whoever designed such ugly and impractical interface. It is even worse than Garmin and TomTom. It can have best maps and routing in the world, but no sane person would stand that awful interface.
iGo which has best maps (because you can combine your own, depending on what you need) is really awful on Android. It is even more simple than iGo Amigo on WinCE. And it is really slow. Not to mention that the interface sux, it doesn't follow Android conventions, and is not in the "spirit" of Android. You can tell it was PORTED from other platform. I keep it just because I know maps are good and routing is excellent, but really dislike using it.
NDrive is same story. While the interface was OK on WinCE, it sux on droid. Not to mention that it doesn't know how to scale properly to DHD's resolution so the texts and button texts are so small that no one can read it unless you put the phone 10cm in front of your face.
Navigon I didn't try. It is pain to install, but this might be my last option.
Finaly, the only one which looks like something is Sygic. Really good interface, blazingly fast, really cool... only in my case not worth much since maps for balkans are main roads only, but if you don't need these countries, it might work for you.
Waiting for iGo Primo on Android....

Sorry but out of all the sat navs, co pilot is easily the best, all you have to do is set up your routing profiles and your set, their customer service is the only thing which is lacking, although they do answer you they always ask you to reply in the same email and they just don't call you, can be annoying.
Google maps is 2nd and anything else beyond that is simply a headache.
Paid 25 quid for co pilot and all the updates they've made have been spot on, if you can't use this app then you certainly shouldn't be driving because you must be a dunce, easy and intuitive, just set up the route profiles and your golden.

Locus online/offline map viewer
You may want to also look at [APP] Locus online/offline map viewer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907430
Early review written by TheRomMistress and published on XDA-Developers.com.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/locus-map-viewer-for-online-and-offline-use/
Locus is worth keeping an eye on as there is lots of development including offline vector maps.
Also note “Download map area” added to Labs in Google Maps for Android.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/download-map-area-added-to-labs-in.html?m=1
Question: by chance does anyone know if by any miracle will my expensive Tom Tom Windows Mobile maps work with Sygic Navigation on Android (HTC HD2 running Desire ROM) ?
Cheers
Tom