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Help revive my dead Kaiser

I have a big problem which I hope all you Kaiser gurus can offer some advice:
I got my Kaiser two weeks ago, pop in my USA T-mobile sim card (GSM only) and it worked perfectly. I then went over to Taiwan and the device was put in Airplane mode for about 10 days. When I get back to the states, the phone no longer works; all other features of WM6 works except it the phone service.
It cannot find the t-mobile network regardless in auto or manual network selection mode. I tried the SIM card on my other phone and it works perfectly so that rules out the SIM card. I did a hard reset and it didn't cure the problem.
Question is, can the altitude or air cabin pressure somehow killed the phone portion of the unit?
What other diagnostic methods do you recommend?

Hmm I dont know if this is a good idea but emergency services like 911 should still work, even without service. And by that I mean without being signed up for service. So it might help to test 911, then hang up if it rings once. Just to see if your radio still works. If it does, then the issue might be that the phone is not configured correctly to T-mobile.
Now this is only true in the USA. I'm not sure where you are from. But given that the USA has just about the oldest infrastructure in any developed nation, I'm confident it can only be better where you are from.

No, 911 does not work. Does this mean my radio is fried? What can I do?

hmm... this sounds like a bad radio flash gone wrong... and not saying so!

I tried it with my friend's AT&T Sim and it worked perfectly. Does it mean it's the carrier's problem?

it means probably your phone got sim lock somehow. Just do hard spl and unlock it.

I'd get another T-Mobile sim card if your device works fine with an AT&T sim. I realize you said your T-Mobile sim works great in another phone, but that's the only thing that makes sense.

Ok I'll try that. Problem is, I have several other T-mobile lines and I tried those SIMS already and no cigar.
Anyone else can contribute any ideas? HTC is not support me because this is an import phone.

mutantblack said:
it means probably your phone got sim lock somehow. Just do hard spl and unlock it.
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This is MISLEADING info !
Hard-SPL = CID unlock = ROM options
it does NOT unlock the SIM !!

hello all
i got the "no sevice" problem which looks like the same as Valleydog's.
i got my kaiser about 1 month, everything goes very well
today im in class and turn on the flight mode.
when i turn off the flight mode, it cant find the sevice any more,it tells "no sevice"
i cant dial any number including 911,86,110 etc......i swap my friends' cards they couldnt work,too
oh,just a nightmare to me, i flash the htc ship rom(which contains a radio),problem still...
could anybody help me, was it suddenly sim locked? possible?
Why such bad thing happens on me(good person)...........
KAIS130 with hspl v1,flashed many roms without problem,just this problem suddenly scares me
Sheng

This happened to me briefly the other day; running a stock T-Mobiles Vario III with NO rom flashing done to it.
I went to make a call and there was no service. The phone had been in my pocket for a while. I soft reset it and it worked after that, but took about 5 minutes before it picked up a signal... It's been fine since though.

This really sucks... I will head down to the T-mobile store and try out all their SIM cards until I find one that works.
The thing that puzzles me is that the other carrier's SIM (AT&T) works fine

Why such bad thing happens on me(good person)...........
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Haha....im sure its got nothin to do with that....mebbe u dun pray enough

Here's an update...I tried 3 working SIMS cards in T-mobile store on my phone and it still does not get signal.
Very frustrated at this point.

My phone worked intermittently at one point but now it's dead again. What a piece of crap.

This is so annoying, and HTC have no answer regarding this issue.
It is clearly not a hardware fault!!!
I have the same problem & it is so frustrating you guys can't imagine.
I have always loved HTC machines, but I am thinking never again!
Regards
Andre'

saper747 (andre),
Where are you located and what have you done to troubleshoot the problem so far?

Did you call T-Mobile to see if they have something configured wrong on their end? If the phone works with an AT&T sim, it would seem something on T-Mobile's side wasn't right.

There is nothing wrong as confirmed by T-mobile, the same SIM works on any other unlocked phone except my Kaiser

valleydog said:
saper747 (andre),
Where are you located and what have you done to troubleshoot the problem so far?
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I am located in Israel I have tried 7 sim cards (2 -cellcom,3 -orange,1 -02 uk& 1-t-mobile ) non of them work on my Kaiser but they do in any other phone!!!
I have done soft resets & hard resets nothing helps.
it all started after I was trying to roam to another country and a day later my battery went dead, the next thing i new it wouldent register any network ,

Cant find Network on Kaiser

Hi, I have noticed that a few have already complained about this issue
I'll tell you what happened to me:
I went on holiday from Israel to Jordan for 2 days.
My Kaiser did not roam as my sim wasn't open for Intl. Roaming so it couldn't find a network.
Also I did not charge it so the Battery went dead.
Following that two days I got home gave my Kaiser a full charge and could not get the network back.
I have done many Soft resets, 2 hard resets & spoken to HTC Help Desk.
The only thing HTC could tell me was to send the Kaiser to the UK for repair as they have not heard of this issue before.
Obviously I do not want to send it as I am sure it's not hardware but something else only.
My Kaiser was perched in the US (made in GB)
Network is Cellcom , which by the way I have tried other Sims in me Kaiser since this happened but with no success.
This issue is very frustrating as I feel helpless regarding this issue & I don’t know what to do
If any one has an idea ………….Thanks
Andre'

saper747 said:
This issue is very frustrating as I feel helpless regarding this issue & I don’t know what to do
If any one has an idea ………….Thanks
Andre'
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First, try just removing the SIM card, then re-inserting it to see if the phone reconfigures itself. You may have to do a power on without sim card, before you re-insert it.
If that fails, do a hard reset so it goes back to factory default settings, then the inserted SIM card should set up the phone settings properly.
G.

Thank, but like I said before……
I have done 2 hard resets tried every way of rebooting with sim / without sim
Nothing works !

Thank, but like I said before……
I have done 2 hard resets tried every way of rebooting with sim / without sim
Nothing works !

hello saper747:
mine switched to flight mode and swap back,it cant find network any more,too,no matter hard-reset or flashing rom,its still.........
looks like we got the same problem, is yours telling "no sevice"? just a "!" on the service icon,right?
Sheng

I think this MIGHT be a bug/issue
I had this last week for almost 4 hours. I dont think the network was down but if it was then T-mobile did not state anything anywhere
I had reception all day and then suddenly around 5:30pm, I lost it and did not get it back until late evening

woohyuksheng said:
hello saper747:
mine switched to flight mode and swap back,it cant find network any more,too,no matter hard-reset or flashing rom,its still.........
looks like we got the same problem, is yours telling "no sevice"? just a "!" on the service icon,right?
Sheng
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Hi , yes its the same problem
It shows the networks arround but it can't register to them only the !.. icon
This has nothing to do with the network carier as the sim works in all my other phones .

Hi i was wondering if anyone has a solution yet ?

woohyuksheng said:
hello saper747:
mine switched to flight mode and swap back,it cant find network any more,too,no matter hard-reset or flashing rom,its still.........
looks like we got the same problem, is yours telling "no sevice"? just a "!" on the service icon,right?
Sheng
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I have THE SAME situation. I believe this is the bug which MUST be solved by HTC! Or at least by someone. I still haven't found the solution. Have anybody done??

Has anyone tried what happens when 3G is disabled (GSM mode)?
I'm having the same problem for the last couple of days in the UK with Orange, but when I switch to GSM (Settings->Personal->Phone->Band->Network Type = GSM) it works fine.

alt236 said:
Has anyone tried what happens when 3G is disabled (GSM mode)?
I'm having the same problem for the last couple of days in the UK with Orange, but when I switch to GSM (Settings->Personal->Phone->Band->Network Type = GSM) it works fine.
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I tried to do that - no result. I have made hard reset - no result. I have dowloaded update WM6.1 from offical site HTC and installed it - no result.
Also, during two days, I calculated at least 20 persons who had this problem around the world. I can not believe that nobody researched this problem yet!

Me 2
I am also suffering from same issue.
My kaiser drop network at around 5PM till 1 hr approx, it hapeend for a week almost then I update radio then it was working ok, but still its not permanent solution.
Now a days my kaiser leaves network anytime and then it will not connect how hard u try, reset, hard boot, flash anything and after sometime suddenly it works.... magic.
I check sim with other phones its working gr8. but with this phone network gives trouble, I dont have 3G here in India, so its running on GSM.
Please somebody find solution, I'll post if I get any solution.
Thanks,
Dilip

Did you try with manual selection of mobile network (start->Settings->Personal->Phone->Band->Network)?

i did the network setting and put it as GSM and it works like a champ
BUT
i lost the 3G capabilities. One of the reason i purchase Kaiser is because the 3G capability.
using other Kaiser will give me a full 3G capabilities so i start wondering whether this is a hardware issue or software

No-one one here experienced the 3G bug then?

This is a problem where you have an apparently good 3G signal BUT you cannot make or receive calls or texts and you can't establish a data connection. There is no obvious sign that you are in this state until you try to call, text or access data.
The "solution" from T-Mobile in the UK is to force the phone "band" setting from Auto to GSM, then it works. But of course its not a solution as you lose 3G.
If you are at work with a 3 icon on your phone, just try calling it from your desk and see if you get straight to voicemail or not.
After discussions with T-Mobile they are sending me a replacement handset but if the postings in Modaco are anything to go by then I am not alone in this.
What is not clear is whether this is restricted to:
1. The T-Mobile UK network
2. The T-Mobile UK Vario III firmware
3. A combination of the above
4. A general design fault with some Kaiser's
This is being discussed in the Modaco forums but I couldn't find any mention here.

I make dozens of calls, and send around 50+ SMS a day.
No problems in the last month.
I am an Australian Kaiser owner running on the Three network.
ROM: 1.81.861.0 WWE

Hi there,
I have the same issue on T-Mobile in Germany.
What I have not been able to figure out is if the phone works again after a while or if one needs to reset (as I always do).
Regards,
Martin

I have tried soft resets and even a hard reset and it appears to be random whether it starts working again. This seems to be same experience as the Modaco users.
thinksmart said:
Hi there,
I have the same issue on T-Mobile in Germany.
What I have not been able to figure out is if the phone works again after a while or if one needs to reset (as I always do).
Regards,
Martin
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mbriody said:
This is a problem where you have an apparently good 3G signal BUT you cannot make or receive calls or texts and you can't establish a data connection. There is no obvious sign that you are in this state until you try to call, text or access data.
What is not clear is whether this is restricted to:
1. The T-Mobile UK network
2. The T-Mobile UK Vario III firmware
3. A combination of the above
4. A general design fault with some Kaiser's
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Well, I worked for T-Mobile UK recently and had the very same issue on my Vario II, even whilst at work where there was a large mast and the 3G coverage was the strongest in the country.
on further investigation, everyone else in the area had the same issue. sometimes it would work ok, a lot of the time i had to manually set to 2G just to be able to use the phone functions.
in T-Mob we could check the strength of various 2 & 3G signals by postcode, and the signal in the area was very strong, with no outstanding work issues or problems (according to our system)
was never able to figure out why this was happening, and nobody was able to answer the questions.
so -
seems to be T-Mob UK (perhaps just in various areas at various times), and is not limited to your Kaiser / Vario, so at least you can relax cos it's not a faulty phone

Thanks for the very useful post. Unfortunately that doesn't give us a solution. If this cannot be fixed then T-Mobile is useless for me.
Dr J said:
was never able to figure out why this was happening, and nobody was able to answer the questions.
so -
seems to be T-Mob UK (perhaps just in various areas at various times), and is not limited to your Kaiser / Vario, so at least you can relax cos it's not a faulty phone
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i've been experiencing the same - no data access when using 3g (whilst showing 2 bars) but connecting fine using gsm.
can anyone point me in the direction of a replacement comm manager with the same icons as the default kaiser but with a 3g switch in the vacant slot ?
i've been looking at a few replacement comm managers but can't seem to find what i'm looking for ...

This is NOT a problem with your Kaiser, replacing your phone will not make a difference. It is problem with your provider's tower hard/software. Strange that T-Mobile has not told you this when you contacted them about it.
T-Mobile in the Netherlands does not have this problem, but the KPN network does. KPN is however in the process of replacing the faulty hardware (or maybe they are already done now, even) and suddenly the problem disappears

Found the solution!!
Hello,
I had the same problem untill one day I inserted my sim card in another phone (a very old nokia - as basic as it gets).
For some reason that I don't know, when I put the sim card back in the TyTN II it was working and keeps on working.
This has happened over a month ago, and I now don't hv a problem.
Try to do the same, see if it works for You
Regards
XTP

Nope, I already tried the SIM in another phone (an SE W880i) and it was okay. I put it back in the Vario III and it still didn't work.
I also tried soft and hard resets.
xtp73 said:
Hello,
I had the same problem untill one day I inserted my sim card in another phone (a very old nokia - as basic as it gets).
For some reason that I don't know, when I put the sim card back in the TyTN II it was working and keeps on working.
This has happened over a month ago, and I now don't hv a problem.
Try to do the same, see if it works for You
Regards
XTP
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i can confirm that this didn't work for me either. :-(
worth a try though ...

I had this with a Hermes on Orange UK a year ago. They admitted that the local cell was faulty and was being fixed and asked me to go to GSM for a week. After a week I switched back and it was fine.
Am now using a Kaiser (O Tytn2) in same location and its fine.

well i know ive been having problems sending mms whenever im on the 3g network, but as soon as i switch to gsm then the mms sends fine!

Chainfire said:
This is NOT a problem with your Kaiser, replacing your phone will not make a difference. It is problem with your provider's tower hard/software. Strange that T-Mobile has not told you this when you contacted them about it.
T-Mobile in the Netherlands does not have this problem, but the KPN network does. KPN is however in the process of replacing the faulty hardware (or maybe they are already done now, even) and suddenly the problem disappears
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This is correct, the problem is indeed not your Tytn II. I've called with a dutch provider (Telfort) which makes use of the KPN network. And it is technically not possible. So we must wait till the provider makes sure this is possible.
I also was surprised that they never told me this in advance. Actually they didn't knew it was an problem till I called them.

Er, exactly what "is not possible"?
3G to 2G switching works fine on my other phone (an HSDPA-enabled Nokia 6120 Classic, on the same network).
So how can this not be handset related? I can see how it could be a combination of the phone and the network but if other handsets can cope then it must be related to the handset in some way.
Incidentally I am now using my replacement Vario III and so far so good but its early days yet.
mlh01 said:
This is correct, the problem is indeed not your Tytn II. I've called with a dutch provider (Telfort) which makes use of the KPN network. And it is technically not possible. So we must wait till the provider makes sure this is possible.
I also was surprised that they never told me this in advance. Actually they didn't knew it was an problem till I called them.
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which ROM versions are experiencing this problem?

I get this in the UK on a Tuesday at around 16:00 and then all is ok after 17:00. If I turn off HSDPA then this does not happen at all.
My view is the T-Mobile network. Being as I know when it happens its not a problem but I think they have time slots for software upgrades etc to the HSDPA side of things and this is when your phone goes into a GSM lockout.
If I keep the phone on 2g then it never happens .
This also happened on my N95 on the same day at the same time also , so i would guess its a network thing

I had this occur again this morning, on the new handset. I tried to call home with a full set of bars and the phone in 3G - the call wouldn't go through.
Switched to 2G, call goes through.
The problem is that when you are in this mode there is no way to tell, without trying to make a call. Your phone is effectively useless as no-one can call or text you and you can't call out. You are blissfully unaware.
This is not an acceptable situation.
wardy said:
I get this in the UK on a Tuesday at around 16:00 and then all is ok after 17:00. If I turn off HSDPA then this does not happen at all.
My view is the T-Mobile network. Being as I know when it happens its not a problem but I think they have time slots for software upgrades etc to the HSDPA side of things and this is when your phone goes into a GSM lockout.
If I keep the phone on 2g then it never happens .
This also happened on my N95 on the same day at the same time also , so i would guess its a network thing
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I have suddenly started to experience this problem on T-Mobile UK, starting last night. It finds a 3G network, but I cannot receive or send calls or SMS. If the network drops to 2G, I can generally receive texts, but it's only if I lower my band to GSM only that I can make or receive calls, or use data.
T-Mobile are generally crappy in my area anyway, my phone is forever flipping between 2 and 3G. Can anyone confirm what 3's coverage is like in south london (stockwell area if possible) and what sort of data/call packages you can get sim-only, as I fear that they may not work out as cheap as T-mobile's.

incidentally, I don't think it's an MDA vario problem as I'm running the TyTn II.

Loosing 3G

Hi,
I bought my wings about a year ago, and have been a happy user since then. Out of the blue, my device started to loose 3G signal, or it displays full strength but I am unable to connect/call/receive. 2G instead looks fine.
It was really unexpected, the problem came up overnight. I did not install any new software neither have add any change whatsoever. I was still using the original factory ROM (never changed).
Still have the problem, though I have tried everything I can/know. I have even upgraded the device to the new ROM by HTC, which is supposed to improve the 3G connectivity and nope nope nope.
Help would be very much appreciated
Thanks!

btw, forgot to say.
It is likely not a network problem of my provider. I have tried my phone in different areas without any success. Besides, if I test my SIM card with another phone with 3G capability, it works fine. And of course, trying another SIM card in my s730 doesnt solve the problem.
HELP!

There is an official radio update from HTC wich adresses this problem.
Check the HTC site
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=47&cat=2&dl_id=407

timeloop said:
There is an official radio update from HTC wich adresses this problem.
Check the HTC site
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=47&cat=2&dl_id=407
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thanks. tried twice already and absolutely no change. Right after installing it, I can connect to the 3G for, say, 30mins/1hour. After, the network is lost, or well I do see the 3G connection but I cant call/receive. Trying then soft rebooting, and the phone connects to a 2G network. No way to have 3G connectivity. I am pretty disappointed. I am thinking of swithcing back to nokia. I have already contacted by email the HTC service.
Dunno, anyone has/had similar experience?

looks like I am not alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074

Dropped signal on v1615 t-mobile uk

I have a strange problem with my Kaiser, the signal with t-mobile uk keeps dropping, I have changed various radios and roms but still have the problem.
Current Phone is: V1615
KAIS130
SPL-3.34.Hard
CPLD-8
Current RomDA Ultimate X-V3 (but have tried anumber of others including stock t-mobile)
Current Radio: 1.70.19.09 (but have tried a number of others)
Any help would be appreciated.
p.s. Yeah on my first post, been a lurker for far too long.

Do you use 3G networking?, if not, try to change under Band menu to GSM network, it works pretty well and most places has good signal for it.
Good Luck!

I've had a nightmare with mine on T-mobile..
3 months ago, my phone developed a problem where it'd drop its network for a few hours, then I'd get a few hours of it working, etc. etc.
It was sent to T-mobile, who just re-flashed it. Still didn't work! Had it sent back and it was away a long time, I believe they replaced the motherboard.
It's been working perfectly for the last month until today - When it hasn't had a network connection the whole day! I'm worried it's still broken..
Hopefully our problems are network based! T-mobile warranty returns are terrible.

Aha! Changing my "Network Type" to GSM from Auto fixed things.
...But now when I receive a text, it vibrates until I reset!

jamiepyrite said:
Aha! Changing my "Network Type" to GSM from Auto fixed things.
...But now when I receive a text, it vibrates until I reset!
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turn off vibrate

Hi Milmirex & Jamiepyrite, thanks for the comments.
I've changed to GSM and it has been working fine for the last ten minutes, will test for the rest of the day and report back.
Does anybody else have any idea's how to fix 3G problem? I receive emails all day so could really do with this being resolved.
Does anybody else have same issue but with different network? would possibly point to hardware issue if you do.
Thanks again.
P.S. I didn't have the problem with vibrating on receiving texts

I had flashed back to the original T-Mobile ROM when it was doing the vibrate thing. Flashed it again back to the ROM I was using before and all works fine now

jamiepyrite said:
I had flashed back to the original T-Mobile ROM when it was doing the vibrate thing. Flashed it again back to the ROM I was using before and all works fine now
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Even I have the similar issues from last week. Mine is MDA VARIO III. Even after changing my band to GSM, the issue stil seesm to be there. For about 10 mins i get a weak sigmnal, then it disappears.
Where did you get the original TMobile Vario III ROM. I would like to reflash and see if it fixes the problem. Can you please direct me to the right place
Thanks
Shashi

I think my problem may be similar. I'm with Virgin Mobile but I think they use T-Mobile network.
Have had my Tytn II for over a year & haven't touched software or settings for several months & all has worked well. For the last few weeks I've had no signal in places that other people on the same network (using different phones) are fine. Sometimes if I reboot it comes back. I'm also now finding low battery a lot but I think that the signal issue is draining my batter as it seems to be constantly searching. I get low/no signal with a completely full battery so I don't think that the battery is the problem.
Might this be a H/W problem? Anything I can do to sort this?

i have the same problem. I use Telkomsel operator in indonesia. My Kaiser is HTC Brand.
Any idea why is this happen? Seems like A LOT OF Kaiser went bad this way
Anyone have solution?

im4u2nv said:
i have the same problem. I use Telkomsel operator in indonesia. My Kaiser is HTC Brand.
Any idea why is this happen? Seems like A LOT OF Kaiser went bad this way
Anyone have solution?
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Yup bro, we had the same problems,
i had already try to use with XL, Indosat, and my own Telkomsel,
but still had this serious problems,until i switch phone mode into GSM
i use this gadget for 3G purpose now i must use only GSM
is there any solutions from HTC? I already count on the net and found a lot of problem like we had and still no solutions from HTC