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TuMa v1.1 - ALPHA - WM5 ROM - Wizard Ported to BA

Ok everyone, the next "incantation" of the TuMa ROM is now available!
This ROM is a radical expansion and departure from mamaich's original. I've replaced a number of elements which were OMAP code, with XScale code - taken from the Himalaya, Jasjar, and various ROMs I have had access to. I've also upgraded some applications, and put duplicates of different versions in as well (to determine which is better), and have added other various features, tools, and widgets.
The ROM requires a fair amount of testing now, and the only way I believe this can be done would be to let "everyone" at it and see how it goes. There is a LOT of untested functionality in the ROM, as I don't have access to a number of devices or configurations. So, feedback is definately needed!
There have been a LOT of changes in this ROM, and because of this I'd like to term this ROM as being an ALPHA version. If you have the will and the way, give it a go. I'm finding the performance even better (so far) - but it's only been an hour of testing, and in truth ... I've only managed to test very little of it. 8)
Considerations for this ROM:
All core elements of WM5 are now in the ROM. This includes the previously removed Pocket Powerpoint, Excel, and other files. So, all of the CAB files which I've created specifically for this ROM can be OPTIONALLY installed!
There are now 3 CABs by default in the EXTROM folder:
1). Midlet Manager
2). Arcsoft MMS Composer
3). IA Camera
This means that the ROM should be directly usable in devices without a Camera. If you have such a device, then make sure that you don't install the CAB file (just cancel it)!
If you do have a Camera, you MUST install the Camera AFTER the MMS Installation, as I've chained the two installations together. MMS will install without Camera, and then the Camera CAB will enable the Camera in MMS Composer.
One thing - localization is set to "New Zealand" (since that's where I am), so some of you will need to change this back to your region. (Sorry - it's my ROM after all )
The ROM is in /Uploads/Blue Angel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip
Contents: nk.nbf, and the EXTROM folder with CAB files - so, update the operator and Flash away ...
Explore the features, test all of the elements, and let me know if everything is working properly.
All the best of luck with it!
*** D-OH! First Bug ... The "Contacts" SoftKey is wrong ... just open up the SoftKey Control Panel Applet and reset it ... works fine then. Sorry Guys. :-(

Is it possible to put a direct link to the file? I can't really find it...

I get a checksum error using BAUpgrade; MaUpgradeUt doesnt show any rom info. This is what i have always used to fix my roms previously
xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -so O2___001 -sl WWE nk.nba
xda3nbftool -c -u NK.nba
xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521
Anything wrong here?
Edit: I was in bootloader mode

Hello efjay, could you help me here? I can't really find the file to download

raymondu999 are you using an FTP client? Thats probably the best way to get it.
Edit: try this link ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip

No actually, I'm only going the ftp://xd[email protected] whatever thing...

Does it work for you? Or is it my computer that's acting funny and not letting me download it?
Actually, nevermind, efjay, it's working for me now. THANKS A LOT!!!! I owe you one!

No problem, pls post if you are able to flash ok. I seem to be stuck.

No problem, willdo. However, don't expect anything too soon... My internet is slow as hell, so I'll be downloading for a looooooooooooong time....

Hi All
First post so please be gentle LOL
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
will let ya all know how i get on
any ideas on the double programs would be most greatful
cheers for now
Nic
Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else

nks said:
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
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Hmmm ... I had this as well when I was building this ROM myself. I think it's because some folders have been specified as "PermDir()", and the shortcuts are being kept.
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
I think I may have messed something up in the formatting specifications for the Flash Storage device ... i.e. it checks the existing format, and if it's still ok, it keeps all permament items around. This is probably BUG #2. *sigh*
Let me know how you get on ...
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Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else
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Just hoping that this will solve my issues with the device, and be useful for other people too. 8)

Cheers Tuatara
Followed steps 1-6 and it looks ok now :lol: will do some more testing tomorrow with gps,phone,sms etc and let you know...
nearly 3am here in uk so time for bed
thanks again
Nic

Tuatara said:
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
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Installed the upgrade, did note the above problem. In step 2) and 5) files exist that prohibit the folder deletion, like PIE in step 5. Not sure why I get a different response than nks. Ended up deleting the duplicate entries in the Start Menu.
This version is much faster, great work.

rschell said:
1) Noticed the Double menu items, can delete some directories.
2) Noticed that the activesync connection does not remain connected. I have to disconnect and reconnect
3) Sound issues with WM Player playing off a SD card remain until the buffer is full (about 1 min into the song)
Will keeping probing for other issues.
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Thanks heaps for the feedback!
Right ... I think my reworking of the Flash Storage specification - while improving the performance, has had a few other 'odd' side effects. Probably the SD Card buffering/paging has been affected, and similarly resulting in the double menu items.
As for the ActiveSync disconnect issue - I did have that happen to me just now as well. Very strange though, I simply opened another "explorer" window, and everything came back immediately. Maybe I've changed the timeouts/timing for the usb driver too much.
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
I'll try to have a look into this sometime (very late) tonight after I get my "real" work done now.
Oh ... and on the "bad news" front ... I'm going to be away again for another 2 weeks now - this time in Germany, going to be exhibiting at Cebit - leaving Sunday. *sigh* a bit last minute and unexpected all this.
Hopefully though, I'll have time enough to do some patches or an upgrade to the ROM for anything which is found before that time. So keep testing and letting me know!

Hello Mr. T Great work by the way !!! it really works great, much faster and responsive!! you will be a saint for all us geeks !!!
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
well just happy to report! cheers!!
Great Work!!

another thing, I really believe that the problem with WM5 for BA is the phone side of the ROM I really think that there is an incompatibility issue here. because when I use the device with Radio off, it works perfect! on every issue.

Tuatara said:
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error. I tried installing the camera cab on an earlier version with no adverse effects on the SX66, but I prefer not to have it around in the PDA. I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
I'm not a user of MMS right now, so I can't tell there. Pocket MSN works. The activesync connection dropping out does have something to do internet access, connection stays active until an attempt to connect to the internet. MSN and FTP don't appear to use the activesync connection when it is available.
Wifi works, but I can't thru the portal at the hotel I'm at tonight, so I can't do a full test. Don't have my bluetooth adapter with me to check it.
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.

SysCrasher13 said:
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
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Move the desired ringtone to the \windows\rings folder and it should work, it does for me.

rschell said:
Tuatara said:
... SX66 ... NON-Camera installation ...
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error.
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That's great to hear ... and no slowdowns either I presume, which is very good news for SX66 users now.
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I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
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Yeah ... I think a lot of people are like that - so having the choice to add MMS, Camera, or Midlets lets everyone decide to keep just what they want.
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Pocket MSN works.
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Oh ... forgot to mention in my first post ... Pocket MSN was also updated to the latest version I could find/merge into the ROM.
rschell said:
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.
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NOTE: This is very easy to do for anyone else. All 'accessories' are simply loaded in the /Windows/Startup folder, so if you don't want something (like Cyberon Voice Dial, or Screen Rotate, or psShutXP, etc.) you can simply remove it from this directory, or disable it, and it'll no longer run. Similarly, all buttons are now configured as configurable buttons (not hard coded through registry, etc.) This way you can easily customize the device how you like it.
Remember, it's also not using any of your Storage memory for these 'extra' applications - so there's no cost in having or deleting them.
I'll check the board again in a little while ... must get back to work! I might be able to make a v1.1a later tonight, which will hopefully correct some of these initial problems which have been found. (If I find the time ... )

hello all ...
im not try this new ROM but 1 question... ist work to use BA as modem with this ROM ???
thanks in advanced...

Part00|Part01.raw file extraction from KS20 dump?

Does anybody know how to extract the files from the Part00.raw or the Part01.raw of the KS20 image dump?
I've extracted from Part02.raw with the standard commands from the KaiserKitchen thread, but I can't seem to find the proper incantation for Part00 or Part01.
I'm missing some files (rex_wce.dll and TrsTai_extension.dll), and could really use a look into these files to implement some missing functions that don't exist in the Kaiser's version.
Incidentally, if somebody has the Kaiser's rex_wce.dll, it would help a lot too for code comparison with the KS20's version, eventually.

Good Luck! Contact Chainfire, He's already been there & done that. (To no avail if you're even thinking video issues)

GSLEON3 said:
Good Luck! Contact Chainfire, He's already been there & done that. (To no avail if you're even thinking video issues)
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He's not answering his PMs unfortunately for me.

Well this is really surprising, you guys talk about wanting drivers, but the reality is ...
Here I am with partially working .dlls after I hacked up the KS20 ones, rewrote certain portions, and recreated the rest so that I can:
call eglGetDisplay(), got a valid response back
call eglInitialize(), got a valid response, and then some memory allocation dies in pmem_malloc() in the lower levels (specifically in ath2dati.dll) ...
Can I get some help extracting some other files? I've already rewrote msm_clk.dll as posted (notice the date and linker version), and currently I'm working through libgles_cm.dll

Try this utility:
http://legroom.net/software/uniextract
I am not sure if it will do what you need, but it was recommended on the User Customistaion thread for extracting files from exe's and cab's and it is constructed using autoit which is a great freeware pc scripting utility, so it comes from a good pedigree and has been written to cover just about all types of compression.
I hope it works for you and sorry for the wasted effort if it does not as anybody working on this should be encouraged.
Regards
Chapelhill

chapelhill said:
Try this utility:
http://legroom.net/software/uniextract
I am not sure if it will do what you need, but it was recommended on the User Customistaion thread for extracting files from exe's and cab's and it is constructed using autoit which is a great freeware pc scripting utility, so it comes from a good pedigree and has been written to cover just about all types of compression.
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Thanks, but I'm trying to extract from a ROM dump which has a much different internal format.
Meantime, I think Chainfire just came through with files I've been asking for. Yay.
So, I've found some old old (June/2007) XIP files for the Kaiser now and I'll see if that's still useful to compare to the KS20's. Anybody got a link on how to extract the XIP from the .raw? Google's not helping me much.

Okay, I've found qooqoo's subthread which gives me the tools: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680&page=6
And the actual commands:
mkdir XIP
dumprom.exe Part01.raw -5 -d XIP
Now I have the reference code to properly port these .dlls to the Kaiser. Thanks Chainfire and qooqoo.

is it safe to assume this project is dead?

Apparently, the LG KS20 does not have the needed drivers either.
janys said:
Maybe somebody already posted this...
HTC's driver issue is LG's, too
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btprice2001 said:
Apparently, the LG KS20 does not have the needed drivers either.
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There's some confusion as to what drivers mean. From the fringes I've been diving into, there isn't any specific Q-Dimension 3D support, but there's plenty of ATI-like 2D driver code in there including the ace_ddi interface, and possibly some MPEG2 decoding acceleration.
If the interview is describing 3D driver interface, then that much can probably be agreed to as not used/existing.

NuShrike said:
Well this is really surprising, you guys talk about wanting drivers, but the reality is ...
Here I am with partially working .dlls after I hacked up the KS20 ones, rewrote certain portions, and recreated the rest so that I can:
call eglGetDisplay(), got a valid response back
call eglInitialize(), got a valid response, and then some memory allocation dies in pmem_malloc() in the lower levels (specifically in ath2dati.dll) ...
Can I get some help extracting some other files? I've already rewrote msm_clk.dll as posted (notice the date and linker version), and currently I'm working through libgles_cm.dll
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hey.
what did you rewrite? curious how far you got with this.

cmonex said:
what did you rewrite? curious how far you got with this.
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redirected memory allocation calls in wce_rex.dll that is named differently in the KS20 version (get_virtual_address() -> RexGetVirtualAddress(), and nulled out free_virtual_address())
nulled out some function calls in TrsTai_extension.dll for calls that only exist in the KS20 version (I have to come back and resolve this with the new files I just got)
bypassed wce_pmem.dll calls to use qct_wce_pmem.dll directly instead (because QctDrv.dll is failing syntactically correct memory alllocation calls) during eglInitialize() (qct_wce_pmem.dll is almost identical to the KS20 version, so I'm assuming wce_pmem.dll + QctDrv.dll is some weird HTC shim layer to serialize memory allocations)
am currently digging through ahi2ati.dll's AhiInit() to see why there's a data abort (illegal memory access) further down in eglInitialize().
I don't program on weekends.

NuShrike said:
redirected memory allocation calls in wce_rex.dll that is named differently in the KS20 version (get_virtual_address() -> RexGetVirtualAddress(), and nulled out free_virtual_address())
nulled out some function calls in TrsTai_extension.dll for calls that only exist in the KS20 version (I have to come back and resolve this with the new files I just got)
bypassed wce_pmem.dll calls to use qct_wce_pmem.dll directly instead (because QctDrv.dll is failing syntactically correct memory alllocation calls) during eglInitialize() (qct_wce_pmem.dll is almost identical to the KS20 version, so I'm assuming wce_pmem.dll + QctDrv.dll is some weird HTC shim layer to serialize memory allocations)
am currently digging through ahi2ati.dll's AhiInit() to see why there's a data abort (illegal memory access) further down in eglInitialize().
I don't program on weekends.
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Here's a hurdle I can see, most 3D GPU's require allocated memory on boot, or 'shared memory' (itsa friggin pc now), now from what I understand, the kaiser IPL bulks the memory into one wad of addy’s and uses it accordingly, now we need to dedicate some of the system memory as video memory to be dedicated to the GPU on system boot, no nand flash swap as the write rate will hose bits at an unacceptable rate.... This is why HTC would say it is too spensive to allocate programmers, my gawd, someone might have to think... (pffffft) POF...? The existance of an IPL has never been reported, but we know it is there, it functions as a system bios, you know, where in some lamer systems you can allocate deticated video memory.... POF....? Sir, your vast knowledge and presence has been humbly requested...
?Glitch

NuShrike said:
redirected memory allocation calls in wce_rex.dll that is named differently in the KS20 version (get_virtual_address() -> RexGetVirtualAddress(), and nulled out free_virtual_address())
nulled out some function calls in TrsTai_extension.dll for calls that only exist in the KS20 version (I have to come back and resolve this with the new files I just got)
bypassed wce_pmem.dll calls to use qct_wce_pmem.dll directly instead (because QctDrv.dll is failing syntactically correct memory alllocation calls) during eglInitialize() (qct_wce_pmem.dll is almost identical to the KS20 version, so I'm assuming wce_pmem.dll + QctDrv.dll is some weird HTC shim layer to serialize memory allocations)
am currently digging through ahi2ati.dll's AhiInit() to see why there's a data abort (illegal memory access) further down in eglInitialize().
I don't program on weekends.
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hey,
thanks for the answers
what new files did you get? i have some, wondering which ones you meant there.

?Glitch said:
Here's a hurdle I can see, most 3D GPU's require allocated memory on boot, or 'shared memory' (itsa friggin pc now), now from what I understand, the kaiser IPL bulks the memory into one wad of addy’s and uses it accordingly, now we need to dedicate some of the system memory as video memory to be dedicated to the GPU on system boot, no nand flash swap as the write rate will hose bits at an unacceptable rate.... This is why HTC would say it is too spensive to allocate programmers, my gawd, someone might have to think... (pffffft) POF...? The existance of an IPL has never been reported, but we know it is there, it functions as a system bios, you know, where in some lamer systems you can allocate deticated video memory.... POF....? Sir, your vast knowledge and presence has been humbly requested...
?Glitch
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no, there is no IPL on the MSM7xx devices.
there is a PBL that is not reflashable, then that initializes the radio bootloaders, initializing some hardware in the process, then those run the SPL and the radio image. SPL then runs wince

cmonex said:
no, there is no IPL on the MSM7xx devices.
there is a PBL that is not reflashable, then that initializes the radio bootloaders, initializing some hardware in the process, then those run the SPL and the radio image. SPL then runs wince
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So, this write once PBL would remove any ability to deticate RAM to GPU and establish a handle for GPU drivers to use, unless there is a way to modify boot perameters, has anyone put the PBL through a debugger to check to see if there is an optional perameter file referenced?
?Glitch

cmonex said:
what new files did you get? i have some, wondering which ones you meant there.
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I never had the wce_pem, wce_rex, and TrsTai_extension dlls from both devices to compare since some is part of the XIP. I don't know WinMob well enough to know about extracting this stuff then.
My first initial pass guessed what calls I could redirect. Now that I can see, that's why qct_wce_pmem is preferred over wce_pmem now, esp since the normal wce_pmem failed a simple pmem_malloc call for no reason that bypassing directly to qct_ worked fine.

NuShrike said:
I never had the wce_pem, wce_rex, and TrsTai_extension dlls from both devices to compare since some is part of the XIP. I don't know WinMob well enough to know about extracting this stuff then.
My first initial pass guessed what calls I could redirect. Now that I can see, that's why qct_wce_pmem is preferred over wce_pmem now, esp since the normal wce_pmem failed a simple pmem_malloc call for no reason that bypassing directly to qct_ worked fine.
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oh you can just link me the rom image that has the stuff, i will extract it for you from xip.

?Glitch said:
So, this write once PBL would remove any ability to deticate RAM to GPU and establish a handle for GPU drivers to use, unless there is a way to modify boot perameters, has anyone put the PBL through a debugger to check to see if there is an optional perameter file referenced?
?Glitch
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nope, the PBL isn't even HTC code ... it just loads the radio bootloaders. its purpose is really just to implement uncrackable signing (but HTC screwed up there of course so we have nice sim unlockers now).
and you can't debug the PBL, lol
not even the htc part of the radio bootloader counts, it runs on its own ARM chip - initializing the RAM for the OS is totally the responsibility of the SPL and the CE kernel.
though of course it initializes some GPIOs etc but not the memory mapping for the ARM11.

cmonex said:
oh you can just link me the rom image that has the stuff, i will extract it for you from xip.
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Thanks, but I meant that Chainfire already helped me out with some initial files, and then I figured out how to extract everything else myself afterwards now that I had the necessary keyword: XIP ...

Essential processes for AT&T Tilt Users after each rom flash

Essential processes for AT&T Tilt Users after each rom flash
I know this has been mentioned thousands of times throughout this forum yet n00bs often need assistance fixing their hardware keyboards, email, HTC weather, quick gps, and so on after they flash a new rom for the first time.
While hanging out in Bansville for a couple of days I realized I have been answering the same questions continuously. This is a mini text tutorial, which offers simple fixes for imperative AT&T settings.
So you installed a version of hardspl, flashed a new rom, and performed a hard reset. What next? Well primarily in all probability, you want to make sure the clock settings are in am and pm format and the date is set to m/d/y. To change your clock settings follow this navigation
Start>settings>system>regional settings>time tab>time style drop down set to h:mm:ss tt
To change your date setting:
Start>settings>system>regional setting>date tab> select the date style of your choosing and select ok.
Next, I like to restore my files such as my appointments, contacts, text messages, etc. I personally prefer to use PimBackup. Below is a .zip file for PPCPimBackup. It is an uncomplicated program to use and a lecture is unnecessary to navigate throughout this application, as it is straightforward.
After I restore my files, it is time to inaugurate the Tilt keyboard fix, which repairs your slide-out QWERTY keys to be mapped correctly. For example, without this fix Fn+W will appear as ! opposed to @. Below is the cab file you need to install to remap the keys appropriately. Following the installation of this cab file, perform a soft reset.
The next thing I usually do is correct my connection settings. First, I install ATT_Settings.cab, which you can find below. Then I navigate to the following:
Start>settings>connections>connections>select the advanced tab>select networks>Change both drop downs to Media Net> select edit on both drop downs>proxy settings tab>uncheck everything for both media nets that you changed>then hit ok or x when you are finished.
At this time, I set up my email. However, remember NOT to save your password, you will do this in the following step. If you are using HTC HOME, most likely you are, select the little envelope and create a new account. You can find your email settings by using google if you are using pop3 or whatever.
Next, after I set up my email without saving the password, I install removehiddenproxy.cab, which you can find below. This cab file is important as it allows your pop3 email account’s password to save without adding extra characters, allows for your quickgps to function properly each time, and it also allows you to use HTC Home Weather without getting a connection failure. So install this cab then go back to the email you just set up, edit the account setup, enter your password, and save it. Now, go back to your today screen and tap your weather tab. Now tap Select City and select your city (*Note there are a few patches available to select your town if you do not live in a big city). Anyhow, notice the menu button where your right softkey is, select menu and turn your temperature scale to Fahrenheit and select done.
I suggest setting up your WiFi at this time too.
Well this is my mini tutorial for a basic setup on your AT&T Tilt after you flash a new rom.
Have Fun Flashing and Take Care.
*Special thanks to the creators of these cab files and JimmyMcgee for teaching me the basics.

Am I missing something too?
Is there something to do regarding getting a reasonable GPS fix after flashing newer 6.1 roms or is it a known problem. I keep flashing down to older 6.0 roms with 1.27.14.09 radio because of the faster GPS fix. I would love to use the newer roms but GPS fix time is a deal breaker for me. To save you some time I use SPL 3.28 with 6.0 roms and 3.56 with 6.1 roms. I bounce between Q-mobile and RomEos roms now that we lost dutty. Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom

*cough* sticky

AWESOME. I keep saying I need to: Start fresh, get NetCF 3.5, get a light rom. But it all seems so complicated to go from current configuration to start over completely, but this will help a lot! Thanks! Now to find the time and the 'right' ROM.

Thanks very much for the reminders, and for the CABs. I flashed my first 6.1 ROM last night, and forgot all about the hidden proxy!
I agree that this really needs to be a sticky...

This is a good tutorial, but here is a good side note to add.
By removing the hidden proxy (which ya do with the removehiddenproxy cab), Tilt users won't be able to get to media net (http://device.home or http://home) or cingular video as the hidden proxy is needed for those.

Then they should just use the Restore Proxy, and that will allow MEdiaNet.
Proxy Manager has both in it.

myteematt said:
Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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Did you try 1.71.09.01 ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410953
Been having the same issue and finally I think got a break. Tried about 10 SR's and the lock times are steady inside the house.
BTW using DK2

does windows mobile have a localhost file like windows? would remapping those to their needed servers allow the bypassing of the proxy?

mbarvian said:
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+1.
Nice tutorial

I downloaded your PPCPimBackup zip file but when I attempted to open it I received the following prompt: "The central directory was not located . . ." etc.
Thanks for the post BTW. Very helpful and informative.

the Dragon said:
I downloaded your PPCPimBackup zip file but when I attempted to open it I received the following prompt: "The central directory was not located . . ." etc.
Thanks for the post BTW. Very helpful and informative.
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you were unable to open the zip file? I'll check it out and reupload it if necessary.
edit: works ok here my friend. Unzip the file to your desktop and move it to your storage card then run the program hopefully it works for you.

myteematt said:
Is there something to do regarding getting a reasonable GPS fix after flashing newer 6.1 roms or is it a known problem. I keep flashing down to older 6.0 roms with 1.27.14.09 radio because of the faster GPS fix. I would love to use the newer roms but GPS fix time is a deal breaker for me. To save you some time I use SPL 3.28 with 6.0 roms and 3.56 with 6.1 roms. I bounce between Q-mobile and RomEos roms now that we lost dutty. Ive tried all the newer radios and personally they all stink for GPS. Sorry about your brief ban and welcome back, I need your wisdom
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I deserved the brief ban.
Anyhow, I noticed that when running 6.1 roms with the Tilt you need an application such as HTC GPS Tool or GPS Test, to open your internal gps, prior to opening your GPS Software.
These are the steps I use to utilize a GPS Fix after each soft reset:
1) download latest updates for quickgps
2) Open GPS Tool>com 4>baud 4800>Hot Start>Then click Open and wait like 30 seconds
3) Open TT7
*If you fail to get a fix after following these steps close all programs and repeat. Eventually you should be getting fixes within seconds.
I've attached GPS Tool for you, good luck.

What exactly does the remove hidden proxy cab do on AT&T Tilts? If you go into your connection settings and uncheck the proxy server- is that the same thing or something different than the cab file does?

Hey Red,
I attached an ATT settings cab which does not enable the proxy by default, and also enableds creation mode in MMS settings. I thought it might be helpful for your thread here. Also, it may seem too advanced for beginners, but i have a thread started here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418468
This has a step by step guide to how to create an xml file using Schap's Advanced Config 3.0, which can be used to provision all of your advanced config preferences during your UC setup. This tool has really made it very easy to do reduce the amount of work that goes into flashing.
I also attached a cab for total commander, a free, more full featured file explorer; gps test, another gps tool; and advanced config 3.0. Hope it helps.

Thanks... this is a great thread!!!

SaltyDawg said:
What exactly does the remove hidden proxy cab do on AT&T Tilts? If you go into your connection settings and uncheck the proxy server- is that the same thing or something different than the cab file does?
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I'd really like to know this too!

Why would anyone ever want the proxy checked? Does it do something for you to have it checked?

sinning said:
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I'd really like to know this too!
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It removes a HIDDEN proxy, one that you can't remove without a cab. Without it enabled you can't connect to medianet home, and some other things. Most users like to disable it for a myriad of reasons, one of which is that it causes you to be unable to browse while connected to your laptop.
The box that you check in connections is a separate issue, and i think that is actually just old settings, i'm not sure, since even on the AT&T website it tells you no not to have that checked.

scotchua said:
It removes a HIDDEN proxy, one that you can't remove without a cab. Without it enabled you can't connect to medianet home, and some other things. Most users like to disable it for a myriad of reasons, one of which is that it causes you to be unable to browse while connected to your laptop.
The box that you check in connections is a separate issue, and i think that is actually just old settings, i'm not sure, since even on the AT&T website it tells you no not to have that checked.
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Awesome. So, if I run the cab and remove the hidden proxy- can I then tether my laptop (connect to the net using the Tilt's data)- without getting caught by AT&T? Or is there more to tethering without getting caught?

HTC Weather, problem & fix

I thought I would add this here unless anyone else runs into the same problem. I broke my HTC Weather yesterday while trying to upload local cities into it. I am running the Dec 03 release of HyperDragon, but HTC Weather seems to be the same (at least in terms of files to edit) across different platforms.
After adding my local city, and uploading it back to the phone when I went into the weather tab to add a new city, I was unable to search for any cities. In fact the search screen contained no entries at all. Essentially, I corrupted the xml file, and the phone was unable to read it.
How I broke it:
Be careful what you edit with. I just opened the file with word pad in Vista to copy my new city information, but the xml file and word pad don't like each other. I found that the tilde ( ` ) <--- that character appearing over letters was unsupported in word pad. The xml file was unable to then read it. It saw it as corrupted data.
To fix it:
I just deleted the offending cities with tilde's in them. I didn't need them anyways. However, one could also just edit the file with a better program and re-upload it to the phone. Once I fixed the file, HTC Weather saw my new cities and was more than happy to read them.
Maybe someone else already went over this. I don't know. But I know I searched on the forum for quite some time without finding out what I did wrong.
AT&T tilt running Hyperdragon

The first mistake was editing an XML file with wordpad. Try using Komodo next time. Always use the proper software for certain editing functions.
Heres a link to the Freeware Komodo XML Editor.
http://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo

didnt I say that

SpiritOne said:
I thought I would add this here unless anyone else runs into the same problem. I broke my HTC Weather yesterday while trying to upload local cities into it. I am running the Dec 03 release of HyperDragon, but HTC Weather seems to be the same (at least in terms of files to edit) across different platforms.
After adding my local city, and uploading it back to the phone when I went into the weather tab to add a new city, I was unable to search for any cities. In fact the search screen contained no entries at all. Essentially, I corrupted the xml file, and the phone was unable to read it.
How I broke it:
Be careful what you edit with. I just opened the file with word pad in Vista to copy my new city information, but the xml file and word pad don't like each other. I found that the tilde ( ` ) <--- that character appearing over letters was unsupported in word pad. The xml file was unable to then read it. It saw it as corrupted data.
To fix it:
I just deleted the offending cities with tilde's in them. I didn't need them anyways. However, one could also just edit the file with a better program and re-upload it to the phone. Once I fixed the file, HTC Weather saw my new cities and was more than happy to read them.
Maybe someone else already went over this. I don't know. But I know I searched on the forum for quite some time without finding out what I did wrong.
AT&T tilt running Hyperdragon
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Next time use notepad that is what i use...also the XML file is in my download section go there and download it open it in notepad and edit then move it into the windows folder...u should be good to go..

How did you manage to get adding cities to WORK?
I followed the instructions that have been posted around, but the URL fragment is NOT as displayed in those posts anymore on www.accuweather.com.
Going to htc.accuweather.com from my Kaiser gets me something that looks SOMEWHAT similar, but its not the same - if I try to use the same format that other US cities are in for mine, I can locate it in the list but it won't update.
Any help?

Genesis3 said:
How did you manage to get adding cities to WORK?
I followed the instructions that have been posted around, but the URL fragment is NOT as displayed in those posts anymore on www.accuweather.com.
Going to htc.accuweather.com from my Kaiser gets me something that looks SOMEWHAT similar, but its not the same - if I try to use the same format that other US cities are in for mine, I can locate it in the list but it won't update.
Any help?
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I am not sure what you are asking...I just added my city like MOD Scotchua said to do and it worked...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2644237&postcount=2366

Aha - I screwed up. Its working now

Spoke too soon..... it KINDA works.
The currnet Manila 2D executable will go back to the top screen (the home page) if you hit the END button twice. It also will mark an incoming SMS "read" if you sit on it on the top page for a few seconds.
The patched one does neither. It will not go back to home unless you navigate there, and SMS do not get marked read.
Is the patch involved (e.g. could I go in with a hex editor and make a change to the CURRENT Manila executable?)

Update to THAT....
I took a quick look at the executables and found the change, with the different URLs. However, it appears the new one is longer than the old, which means that a quick "patch in place" is unlikely to work (I have no idea what's AFTER that block of data - and it ain't zeros, and IS apparent UTF-8 text - so I'm likely to scramble something doing a quick overwrite.)
This in turn implies that you need a way to disassemble the exe file and replace the data, then reassemble it (e.g. to assembler, at least) assuming you don't have source.
So..... anyone have a tool for this or is this a case of "have lots of fun playing with something that can disassemble it, find a clean place in the data segment to put the new reference, and fix it that way" sort of game?

SpiritOne said:
didnt I say that
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yep... just rubbing it in some more
I wouldn't use notepad either. I'd rather not get into a long discussion about editing xml files with notepad either
An XML editor is definitely the way to go.

Yet another update....
What's with the app here? I patched it with a string that fits using a hex editor.
What I wind up with refuses to run. Are these apps cryptographically signed?
Answer: Yep, and once modified, the signature is no good. I don't see anything in Advanced Config that can turn that protection off either; you can disable the requirement that CABs be signed, but I don't see where you can disable the requirement that APPLICATIONS be signed. My security policy settings are such that all security is off, but attempting to run the patched executable by hand elicits a complaint about the signature being invalid. I presume that a MISSING signature would be ok, but a CORRUPT one is going to get complained about - and I have no means to fix that.

Yet more....
I have found the code-signing tools after rooting around and re-signed the application.
It still fails to work; it appears there is a SECOND call to an HTC web site in the current Manila2D code which is NOT in the other patched file.
That one goes to: http://weather.manila1.htc.com/widget/htc/forecast-data_v3.asp?locCode=
DNS shows the address is a CNAME to htc.accuweather.com, and the worse news is that the replacement string that goes in the other place doesn't fit in there - its one byte too long.
It also looks like THIS is the one being called for updates, because changing the other, direct call to the htc.accuweather.com link doesn't change anything - the codes in the file that refer to places accuweather handles still work, but those that refer to other places do not.
Any ideas?

Final Fix - Read
Ok, here's what I've accomplished.
I patched the Manila2D.exe (the CURRENT copy from HyperDragon and others) and have re-signed the code (with a self-signed cert)
I also grabbed the php script and set it up on a VERY short domain name I registered this afternoon, htcwx.org - it exists ONLY for this purpose and is NOT a generic HTC web site.
I have modified the script as necessary, and the firmware as necessary. The replacement Manila2D.exe file is attached. To implement this simply replace the Manila2D.exe in your \Windows directory on the device with the one in this ZIP file. That's it; you can then add city codes at will in the weather file list and they will work.
The previously-posted version of Manila2D.exe has a couple of bugs that I consider show-stoppers, and patching the current version necessitated having a shorter URL as one of the places required to be patched would not allow the "not2advanced" url to fit.
Note that this weather reflector is being run by me, is OPEN and will remain indefinitely; I have a very high-bandwidth connection and expect no interruption in that service. Feel free to use it.
I now have WORKING HTC weather in Manila for virtually anywhere.... and you can too without the restrictions that existed in the previous patched copy (no return to home screen with the END key, and no SMS message marking)
This script "portal" should also work with any other patched HTC Home or HTC Manila applications; the complete url is http://htcwx.org/wx.php?
Note that there is NO general content on that web site.
Enjoy!
PS: As of this instant the .ORG TLD nameservers haven't picked the domain up yet from my registrar. That's abnormal; I see it on my infrastructure but not globally. It should be globally visible by morning.

There's just one thing left to say:
Thank you!
I've been fiddling with this for quite some time, and once I've found this thread everything worked as advertised!!
Happy new year!!

Glad it works for you! Happy New Year to you as well.

Hi Genesis3,
I have installed yesterday Josh's v15 M2D Plain 3G ROM and would like to customize the Weather and add my location.
Your Manila2D.exe is 1.1 Mo where the Manila2D.exe included in this ROM is only 410 KB .... Do you think I can change the original by your's ?
Thanks

That copy is PROBABLY compressed. If it is, the strings can no longer be patched.
You need to talk to the chef and get the uncompressed EXE file - if he has it.

Packed manila2d.exe
I haven't seen anyone post about this but the compressed manila2d.exe that I have uses UPX it worked for me to both unpack and repack the file.
Look into the file for "$Info" if it say's packed with UPX the link above may work for you too. (about 350h char's in)
ENJOY!
Genesis3 said:
That copy is PROBABLY compressed. If it is, the strings can no longer be patched.
You need to talk to the chef and get the uncompressed EXE file - if he has it.
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As with everything here YMMV, make backups and if you blow it up don't blame anyone but the operator.

[?] - Master list of configuration files for backup [Lumos, Gyrator 2, etc...]

Hey all,
I've run a couple searches and can't seem to find the answer to this question:
Is there a master list of the file names of configuration files for applications like Lumos, Gyrator 2, and others?
The reason I'm asking is that, after a ton of Rom flashes, I'm finding that it takes forever to get each of these aps reconfigured. It would be great to back up XML files, .ini's, or something along those lines for them to my storage card and then copy them back over after a flash.
Any ideas? Thanks!

Same question here....!
Would be great to have an answer.

Try the Sashimi application to save files and registry settings and restore them manually or automatically. It may have a steep learning curve, but once you've put in the effort, it saves you much more time in the long run. Have a look at the contents of my Sashimi filebackup.ini and regexport.ini to get an idea. Good luck!
Filebackup.ini
[Applications]
FileBackupDirMode=Auto
StartUp=\Windows\StartUp\*.*
changeScreen=\Windows\changeScreen.config
AEBPlus=\Program Files\AEBPlus\AEBPlus.cfg
TaskFacade=\Program Files\TaskFacade\settings.xml
TouchLockPro=\Program Files\TouchLockPro\TouchLockPro.xml
Lumos=\Program Files\Lumos\settings.txt
ET9=\Windows\ET9*.*
[Opera9]
FileBackupDirMode=Auto
Secure=\Windows\Opera9\secure\wand.dat
Skin=\Windows\Opera9\Skin\*.*
Cookies=\Windows\Opera9\cookies4.dat
Bookmarks=\Windows\Opera9\opera6.adr
Settings=\Windows\Opera9\opera.ini
Regexport.ini
[MySettings]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
JPG1=HKCR\.jpg
JPG2=HKCR\JPG-File
WMV1=HKCR\.wmv
WMV2=HKCR\wmv-file
Notifications=HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications
Sounds=HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds
SoundCategories=HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories
Phone=HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone
SIP=HKCU\ControlPanel\SIP
RIL=HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
Inbox=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox
Messaging=HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath
Attachments=HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings\AttachPath
Backlight=HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight
GSensor=HKLM\drivers\builtin\gsensor
Identity=HKLM\Ident
BlueTooth=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Settings
BlueToothDevice=HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\001ad5f020cc
BlueToothSerives=HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\0000110B-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB
Signature=HKLM\Software\HTC\Signature
Power=HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power
PressureThreshold=HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold
FingerPressure=HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings
ClearType=HKLM\System\GDI\ClearTypeSettings
ShellFolders=HKLM\System\Explorer\Shell Folders
GPS=HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver
TCPWindowsSize=HKLM\Comm\tcpip\Parms\TcpWindowSize
BitmapCacheSize=HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Terminal Server Client\BitmapCacheSize
Wallpaper=HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop
[HTC Software]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
ProgramLauncher=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher
HomeLSKPath=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKPath
HomeLSKArguments=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKArguments
HomeLSKText=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKText
HomeRSKPath=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeRSKPath
HomeRSKArguments=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeRSKArguments
HomeRSKText=HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeRSKText
AccountManager=HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager
Camera=HKCU\Software\HTC\Camera
SmartTouch=HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch
StartUpAnimation=HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAnimation
TaskManager=HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager
AudioBooster=HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioBooster
HSUPA=HKLM\Software\HTC\AdvancedNetwork
AudioManager=HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng
Album=HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum
Animation=HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAnimation
YouTube=HKLM\Software\HTC\YouTube
[MySoftwareHKCU]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
QuickMenu=HKCU\Software\AlenSoft
TotalCommander=HKCU\Software\Ghisler
PIM=HKCU\Software\FdcSoft
Changescreen=HKCU\Software\idevelopstuff
RSS=HKCU\Software\Ilium Software
MobilePad=HKCU\Software\MobilePad
Modaco=HKCU\Software\Modaco
Mort=HKCU\Software\Mort
RAR=HKCU\Software\RAR
SK=HKCU\Software\sk
VisualGPSce=HKCU\Software\VGPS
TouchLockPro=HKCU\Software\ZuinigeRijder
MediaPlayer=HKCU\System\State\MediaPlayer.
cleanRAM=HKCU\Software\HTCAddicts\cleanRAM
ClearTemp=HKCU\Software\VicSoft\ClearTemp
Taiyoukei=HKCU\Software\RBSoft
[MySoftwareHKCM]
RegExportDirMode = Auto
Adobe=HKLM\Software\Adobe
AdvancedConfig=HKLM\Software\AdvancedConfig
CorePlayer=HKLM\Software\CorePlayer
IE=HKCM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
MediaPlayer=HKLM\Software\Microsoft\mediaplayer
ShellKeys=HKLM\Software\Microsoft\shell\keys
Navigon=HKLM\Software\Navigon
SRS=HKLM\Software\SRS
PocketShield=HKLM\Software\PocketShield
eT9=HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
nueDynamicClock=HKLM\Software\Wei Enterprises
TouchInCallScreen=HKLM\Software\Marzens

+1 for SASHIMI...I don't hesitate to flash anymore because of this program (which may not necessarily be all good for the flashaholics!)

ajmoncrief said:
+1 for SASHIMI...I don't hesitate to flash anymore because of this program (which may not necessarily be all good for the flashaholics!)
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Definitely Sashimi. Find it here http://www.winmo-experts.com/. There are video tutorials on how to use which I'd recommend watching, then dive in.
UC is pretty good too, will do all the same stuff and most ROMs support it. However, I've been far more successful going beyond simple cab installs with Sashimi. And, it works with all ROMs.
Weather sites, and program tab button assignments are stored in the registry. Also, under the Application Data there is good stuff stored such as media databases and stock tab.
One of the tricks for determining reg settings is to export your registry before and after you make a change, then using Windiff to compare them. Windiff is free and can be found here http://www.grigsoft.com/download-windiff.htm. It takes a while to get all of your reg edits figured out, but it is worth the time once you do.
Hope it helps.