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When i get my kaiser, i will be setting it up to sync with outlook at home (via a gmail server). This will sync all my mail with outlook, but I am wondering, is there any way to actively send and recieve mail, that would be reflected in outlook at home, on my Kaiser (without using gmail's website).
I believe this is a no, where i can compose messages, and they would be sent next time i sync at home, and where i will only recieve messages when i sync at home, but I am hopeful that there has been some change with this, as the last time i used this type of stuff it was with a windows mobile pda, with only wifi (i.e. not a smart phone).
Thanks for any and all input.
elbweb
I think (and others here may have much more elegant solutions) that the easiest way to do what your asking (or at least what I think your asking) is to simply set Activesync on your phone to sync manually (and sync it only when you are at home). If you can elaborate on what it is exactly you are trying to do a better answer will be forthcoming.
this is what i have set up now:
My home comp, set up with outlook 2007, vista, etc.
My HTC Kaiser 3G via AT&T.
They sync when i am at home, so any messages i have composed on the Kaiser get sent, and any emails i have recieved since my last sync get updated on my phone.
If i set up an email account on the phone, it will use push email, and then i will be able to activly send and recieve messages trough 3g while on the go.
Is there a way (other then Exchange Server) to be able to activly use my Outlook Email account on the go, and have those changes reflected in the Outlook on my computer, without setting up a seperate account for email only on the phone?
Hosted Exchange?
These questions are specific to the Kasier but more to how ActiveSync works.
The only way that I know of to sync contacts, calendar and email with Outlook is to use Exchange. You can certainly sync POP email accounts and Hotmail accounts, even Gmail accounts one your phone and the contact info with Hotmail but not calendar entries.
To me the most comprehensive solution would be to get a hosted exchange account and then sync with it. You can install Outlook on your computer and connect via RPC over HTTPS (if using Exchange 2003) or Outlook Anywhere (if using Exchange 2007) Hosted Exchange services are not very expensive and they work well. Simple google search will give you all the details.
There is even another Microsoft Exchange thread on this Kaiser forum that mentions 2 different "free" hosted exchange servers
Try emoze: www.emoze.com
I'm using Outlook 2007 on my desktop with 3 POP email accounts, calendar, tasks, etc.
Is there a fairly simple way to sync and push email to my Tilt without having exchange server available ?
Thanks,
DLD
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
Other options include using Live Mail - which supports push in WM6, or setting up a Mail2Web account. You could then create a rule in Outlook to forward any received mail to your new address. You might be able to configure Live Mail to pull from other Pop3 mailboxes (I know Gmail does this, but I don't know about Live Mail). That way all three Pop accounts end up in your Live Mail bucket, and you sync just that one account with your phone.
Any good?
TimSykes said:
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
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I could do that, but then I'd have to manually check for mail.
It would just be nice to have blackberry-like mail arrival.
DLD
you can tell the phone to check every 5 mins for emails? that's just as regular as blackberry. battery sapping tho. its in the advanced section of the messaging setup. you can do it on symbian nokias too.
dan13l said:
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
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just installed it, and it appears to be working GREAT !
i wonder why this is free ?
DLD
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
WWI said:
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
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I like the concept of XpressMail (using SMS notification, therefore good for battery life), though I've had little luck getting push to work. It rarely, if ever, worked on my MPX220. I eventually accepted the fact that I'd simply have to do a send/receive when I was interested in seeing if there was new mail. Now that I have the Tilt, I'm having the same reliability issues. It HAS worked... I've had a couple messages show up all on their own, but for the most part, they don't. I've gone into the online configuration @ https://xpressmail.cingular.com/, and found that I had not only one, but two devices set up (my MPX220 set up twice). I deleted both of those, but for some reason can't seem to get the Tilt added. I can go through the process, but once I select it, it just never gets added to the list. The list of emails online is correct, so obviously the xpress mail app is properly getting the emails from my mail provider (comcast), but it's either not sending out the SMS messages, or they aren't being interpreted correctly by the phone.
I had a situation where i needed to syn with 2 exchange servers, and i didnt' want to run a desktop app.
Google for "seven beta" and get the OWA Out of office. You can set it up to sync only email and it works like push off of the OWA of exchange. If you don't have exchange they have a desktop version. Seven is the same people who develop the xpress mail for cingular.
Is it possible to have multiple microsoft exchange accounts on my Kaiser - Running Dutty's latest rom 04/03/08
also what would happen with the calendars and contacts?
chriscc01 said:
Is it possible to have multiple microsoft exchange accounts on my Kaiser - Running Dutty's latest rom 04/03/08
also what would happen with the calendars and contacts?
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In my opinion this is not possible since you only have one activesync client.
Would be nice though....
ok heres is the situation, i have 2 exchange accounts, and i can access one via IMAP but then i dont have same sync up as an exchange
can one of the gods write a program for this
Gods any ideas - im sure nothing is out of your capabilities
http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive...lic.pocketpc.activesync/2006-09/msg00251.html
just found the above link, havent tried it yet
made the registry change but cant see any ability to add any further excange accounts!
someone - anyone - GODS do you have an answer to this?
I have tried and tested this solution however havent had the required results!!! I have an exchange server (my own) and my laptop (work) and I am trying to synch so that I have all my calendar appointments on my phone and my own exchange server! When I synch with my work laptop I get all my own calendar onto the laptop but not on the phone!!! any ideas on how to work around this issue????
Basically I want to synch 2 calendars!! Surely there must be an easier way!!!
As far i know its not possible. it works like outlook. Outlook support (until now) only 1 Exchange account (if u use RPC-HTTP you can switch profiles). And on a PDA there is only one client available. And other technical issue is security, like blackberry, there is a remote wipe function (wipe your PDA if your PDA get stolen). And this not possible if you have 2 exchange accounts (in case of 2 different domains example 2 different companies). Policies on the PDA will be forced by the exchange to make this possible.
So to give you a conclusion, until now its not possible. However if somebody find a hack, it could be possible. But microsoft doesnt support it (yet)
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As far i know its not possible. it works like outlook. Outlook support (until now) only 1 Exchange account (if u use RPC-HTTP you can switch profiles). And on a PDA there is only one client available. And other technical issue is security, like blackberry, there is a remote wipe function (wipe your PDA if your PDA get stolen). And this not possible if you have 2 exchange accounts (in case of 2 different domains example 2 different companies). Policies on the PDA will be forced by the exchange to make this possible.
So to give you a conclusion, until now its not possible. However if somebody find a hack, it could be possible. But microsoft doesnt support it (yet)
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cheers sand bunny thought I maybe attempting the impossible!!
Bearing in mind I have two exchange calendars - is there a workaround that may enable me to get my work calendar in my kaiser? Is there an app that allows you to send the calendar file to my phone in a single file format and then enable me to load into the kaiser calendar? Alternatively is there a calendar sharing facility or publish claendars that may enable me to use both calendars in my kaiser??
anybody got any experience of using the following app:-
http://www.odysseyinc.com/subpages/Software/On-Schedule/PocketPC.htm#multiple
seems to state it can do what I am after - have installed it and trying to get the thing to work though it appears pretty complex!!!
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cheers sand bunny thought I maybe attempting the impossible!!
Bearing in mind I have two exchange calendars - is there a workaround that may enable me to get my work calendar in my kaiser? Is there an app that allows you to send the calendar file to my phone in a single file format and then enable me to load into the kaiser calendar? Alternatively is there a calendar sharing facility or publish claendars that may enable me to use both calendars in my kaiser??
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Do you use GPRS or UMTS 2 sync your PDA? Or do you use the computer?
I use UMTS2 - I tried that On Schedule software and it doenst appear to do what I need it to! I have tried the registry change and then synched with the desktop pc as well as the exchange server and that doesnt work!!!
Even sent a .ics of my work calendar for the next week and that didnt work!
Surely it shouldnt be this difficult!!!
i do this. here is what i do.....
I have an exchange server that i use active sync with. this server is at company 1.
i have XpressMail running at company 2 that connects to an exchange server.
I have 2 calendars and 2 email accounts that are always in sync. I also have 2 address books. pretty neat.
at company 2, my desktop PC is always on.
Id runner that is exactly what I want to achieve - how do you do that? is it something that XpressMail has built in as I cant get anything to achieve this with Outlook 2007, exchange 2007 and active sync!
XpressMail is a free feature on all AT&T / Cingular smartphones.
if you do not have AT&T then you cannot use it.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/solutions/email-messaging/xpress-mail-personal-howto.jsp
I also use Facade. since Facade has an xpressmail plugin, i get both calanders and inboxes on my home screen.
rules me out then! back to the drawing board!
has anyone used pocket mirror? http://www.chapura.com/downloads_trials.php
Perhaps this warning is unnecessary for most users here but be careful where you install XpressMail because your employer might have a policy against it.
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rules me out then! back to the drawing board!
has anyone used pocket mirror? http://www.chapura.com/downloads_trials.php
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I just called Chapura and they said this product only works via cradled sync so I didn't bother speaking further.
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made the registry change but cant see any ability to add any further excange accounts!
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I have it.
One exchange server is my company serveur (used by activesync on my laptop)
The second one (maybe it's the trick) is one OTA (mail2web.com)
Working like a charme.
I am synchronizing with my laptop which has Outlook account on a server, my home (stand alone outlook) and mail2web.
rom I have two exchnage servers one mail2web personal and one work exchabge server! I want to synch over the air for my personal exchange account however would be happy to synch via laptop for the work exchange! this is where the problem starts! does your solution resolve that? I only really want the calendar to synch but just cannot find a solution which intergrates with two calendars!
jdsx I would be happy to synch over the pc for my work calendar as I could do this at the end of the day! do you think chapura will cater for this?
IMAP doesn't seem to work in any of the WM6.1 ROMS. Anyone know how to work around this?
I'm having my mail account configured using IMAP and it works without problems (WM6.1 Lite). I also had it with 6.1 "full" and WM6.
Whenever I setup a new email address it doesn't give me the option to NOT automatically get settings from the server for Gmail.
To make it work with Gmail you have to not use the default settings. I had it working just fine with WM6. Any ideas?
Have a look here.
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78886&topic=12920
With the wm6.1 versions floating around there is no "check box" - that's the problem.
To resolve, you need to enter in a bogus (or incomplete) domain name for your email address in order to "fool" it and stop the auto pop3 config. then you can choose imap and afterward go back and correct the domain.
Are you talking about for exchange or for just a normal Outlook Mobile email that I added? Whenever I add a new email address through Outlook it doesn't ask for a doman.
Can you explain in more detail maybe??
Edit: I tried the bogus domain thing and it didn't work. Hmmm, this is pretty crappy. Unless there's a fix I might have to to back to my old ROM, cause the main reason I have a Treo is for email :/.
I don't have wm6.1 anymore (the version I was using was not ready for primetime IMO). But when asked for your email address (the first step I believe), do not put @gmail.com, instead make it gmai.com (not the missing 'L') then proceed through inputing everything else correctly, at some point you'll be asked for the mailbox type (drop down of pop or imap). Choose IMAP and carry on to finish. then go back in and correct your email address. synch your mailbox...
Worked like a charm man, thanks a lot!
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
I've always been under the impression that "push" mail only works with an Exchange Server... and it works well with my business e-mails. I check gmail through IMAP which is an improvement overPOP3, but still needs to poll the server on a schedule.
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
Are you serieus? Why my w810i/k850i/w960i all used pushmail service from Gmail? So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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i'm using Mobipush(.com) with satisfaction.
Ciao
I have windows live set up on ROMeOS and I'm having no problem with push. Sometimes I send CABs to myself so i can get them on my phone and it always happens instantly.
jaapschaap said:
So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
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If MS didn't like the idea of not using exchange... they wouldn't allow outlook to get mail from pop3/imap. If that's suffering you need to expand your horizons a bit... Sorry for the rant, just tired of anti-MS (not that I'm a big fan). Credit where credit is due.
I didn't read the RFC, but I don't think IMAP supports "push". There is a new proposal for Push-IMAP (P-IMAP) based on IMAP4... Android OS seems to support "push" Gmail and iPhones have some proprietary hooks to get "push" Gmail. So "push" Gmail is out there...
hchavarria said:
Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
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GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push.....
Emoze - www.emoze.com offers not only G'Mail "pushed" but also access to G'Apps too!!!!!
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IMAP IDLE can be called Push-Mail.
The email client can stay in contact with the IMAP server, which tells the client that there is new mail.
Unfortunately, Outlook Mobile does NOT support IMAP IDLE.
ImapPusherService adds this functionality, but it's still an early version...
I'm not satisfied with Xpress email either. I've only added my main Gmail on so far for testing, but I have several more I want to monitor. With my Treo 680 I had no problem with email monitoring. During Mon-Fri daytime I monitor all my accts with thunderbird portable and therefore don't want email being picked up by the phone too. I set up the custom time settings in Xpress to not do this and yet, email still came through. Also it often picks up old mail - mail that was sent several days ago that I'd already read via POP on thunderbird, etc. I don't want to deal with this ridiculousness. I don't need instant Push per se, but at least the ability to set an account to check every five minutes. Would I be able to replace Xpress with Emoze, FlexMail, ProfiMail, or other email apps smoothly? As in replace it on my email tab easily?
I've had no issued with xpress mail. I'm actually participating in their beta program and have hotmail, yahoo and my work lotus notes mail pushing. A lot of times I will get mail on my htc touch pro before my Notes client on my laptop pulls in the mail.
The big ting I'm looking for (for my wifes phone) is a solution that can push contacts and calendar from yahoo, hotmail or gmail.
Lastly I wish one of these solutions would some how include a script or something triggering your VPN client. When I'm away from my desktop I need the connector to reconnect to the work mail server but it can't without me manually starting my vpn client.
Maybe I need to learn how to write a script to not own launch my VPN client but also to click on connect...
For everyone that claims Gmail doesn't offer push, if i connect the first time to it via imap on every latest model (later then w810i) it says 'gmail offers pushmail, activate it on this phone?'... it workes really great (on a SE phone) but MS don't like us to use other clients...
It just sucks, and of there was a real solution for this (a real program instead of ms outlook) it wil be used by almost everyone with wm i quess!
I wanted to throw out some names: I use Seven's Beta for my university (Yale) IMAP push. I also use Funambol to synchronize contacts, tasks, notes, calendar with Outlook.
Alternatives for Push Gmail include Emansio, Emoze, IMAP-pusher service, Mobipush.
I've posted on this issue extensively, so just do a search!
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
Kraize said:
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
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Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
Bulldog said:
Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
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Seriously? Why? I have a yahoo account. And I've been using SEVEN so far, and it gets my mail faster than my mail counter on my yahoo widgets can count.