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New guys with a lot of questions.

Hello everyone. As you can probably tell I am new to this forum. I recently bought my first PPC (Tilt) and I am thoroughly happy with my device (thus far). Seeing how I am new to this genre of phones. I decided to surf the internet to see what kind of info was available for my new toy. To make a long story short, after I surfing the internet and visiting many different forums. I noticed the XDA or XDA developers being used frequently. So I decided to do a Google search which directed me here. I must admit I am thoroughly impressed by this forum (website) and plan to be a contributing member. I have learned so much about the capabilities of my phone. You guys are really amazing. Which leads me to my problem? I am having a difficult time understanding the verbiage being used to describe the various different upgrade features being discuss on this board. All That being said I have some question I would like to ask. But first I have decided to condense my questions on one thread as to make it easier for other interested parties as well as for me to find. However feel free to direct my question or to add a link that can answer my question at your convenience as I know many (if not all) these question have been answered in other threads (sorry remember I am unfamiliar with all these new words).
1)Is there some sort of getting started manual that I can used to better understand the various different words being used on this forum?
What does flash, cooking, roms, etc mean?
2) I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
I would like to do this in hopes of increasing performance as well as to have all the programs and features that where meant for the TYTN 2. If one could list the steps or refer me to the link that could do this it would be greatly appreciated.
3)How does a person find out about the various different applications or program that are available for my phone?
This would be of great interest to me. In particularly when it comes to music and radio stations. What is the best music/media player available? What is the best program to listen to various radio stations? And what site can I use to research this stuff?
4) Lastly I am really interested in all this voip stuff (Skyp, Google talk, etc). It would be pretty cool to use the internet to make phone calls instead of paying for daytime minutes. How would one go about doing this? Am I to understand that I can used my phone exactly the same way but through the internet?
I wanted to take the time to thank those who answered my question (and those that didn’t) as well as to developer of this board.
Thank you
Bulldog1

i think if you spend some time looking through these forums you'll be able to extrapolate many of these answers.
i'm not trying to be a jerk but your questions are kind of extensive and mostly answered with a bit of digging.
sorry.

Bulldog1 said:
Hello everyone. As you can probably tell I am new to this forum.
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Welcome to the forum...
Bulldog1 said:
1)Is there some sort of getting started manual that I can used to better understand the various different words being used on this forum?
What does flash, cooking, roms, etc mean?
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No manual - you learn from osmosis.
I am pretty new around here as well... but a long time lurker...
So - to help as much as possible - here is a quick answer to your questions:
Flashing is when you overwrite / rewrite the firmware. It is the method used to put different ROMs on your device.
Cooking is where you create a custom ROM image - so it comes customized with whatever the chef puts on it.
ROM - think of it as an operating system image that is transfered from your computer to your device.
Bulldog1 said:
2) I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
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Go to the Kaiser Upgrading subforum - sticky at the top is the place to start.
Bulldog1 said:
3)How does a person find out about the various different applications or program that are available for my phone?
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Read read read.
Bulldog1 said:
This would be of great interest to me. In particularly when it comes to music and radio stations. What is the best music/media player available? What is the best program to listen to various radio stations? And what site can I use to research this stuff?
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This site is chalk full of information about these kinds of things: Kaiser is pretty new - so hit one of the other forums under XDA. Software sitting on top of the OS should be pretty standard... ;-)
Bulldog1 said:
4) Lastly I am really interested in all this voip stuff (Skyp, Google talk, etc). It would be pretty cool to use the internet to make phone calls instead of paying for daytime minutes. How would one go about doing this? Am I to understand that I can used my phone exactly the same way but through the internet?
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Kinda. But not as well. Data connections are more prone to dropping than voice calls.
It is cheaper to call internationally though... ;-)
So if you have a good connection and you aren't moving... it is a great alternative.
Bulldog1 said:
I wanted to take the time to thank those who answered my question (and those that didn’t) as well as to developer of this board.
Thank you
Bulldog1
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Welcome dude.
-Daniel

yeah, a glossary of terms would be great. as I read more it makes more sense and I find myself searching some of the terms online. be nice to have somewhere with meanings of WWE, SPL etc mean.

Welcome to the board. I would recomend reading all the wiki's that are stuck in each section and also the search button will bring many many threads on all the questions you have asked. Try this one to get you started. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser Good luck
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I'm in the same boat as you. I read through the posts here and found them really helpful, especially the stickied ones about flashing ROMs.
The best way to get rid of the AT&T stuff is to flash your ROM. Flashing your rom to the HTC-rom will wipe the AT&T bundled software and replace it with the set that comes with the TyTn II (although no TomTom).
I've been trying to find answers to some of your questions too (especially where to find good software and media players), so I'm looking forward to replies from the older members.

trublu said:
yeah, a glossary of terms would be great. as I read more it makes more sense and I find myself searching some of the terms online. be nice to have somewhere with meanings of WWE, SPL etc mean.
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WWE: World Wide English
SPL: System Programming Language (my guess?)

Welcome to the forum, i am also new. As to your question of what is the best media player, it is TCMP, it plays almost everything (even .flv files!) but support has been discontinued because the ppl made it a commercial product...mind you very tech savy ppl are still continuing support for it and adding codecs and stuff.
to download it and some codects, go to this website:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ht...cial-hybrid-media-player-all-codecs-here.html
Hope that helped

Thank you. I can understand that some question may too broad to answer in this thread. I understand that alot of my question are answered in other threads and for this I appologies.
The the reason I ask those question is becuase I do not understand the language being used. I have read (reread) the stinky under the kaiser upgrades tabs but still do not understand what exactly it is saying (or what it is supposed to do).
While I agree most of my other questions can be answered in other threads it would be of great help to me if someone could explain in greater detail to me my question number 2 which I have reprinted below.
I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
I would like to do this in hopes of increasing performance as well as to have all the programs and features that where meant for the TYTN 2. If one could list the steps or refer me to the link that could do this it would be greatly appreciated.
thank u

Bulldog1 said:
I would like to get rid of all the ATT stuff (for a lack of a better word) that on my phone and upload all the high speed HTC stuff.
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Step 1: Download and use kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip and follow directions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1562805&postcount=1
Step 2: Download HTC rom from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/5781641...dio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html
UnRar and run the executable.
Pat yourself on the back for getting me to type this out instead of reading the other forum yourself. ;-)
Oh - and if anything goes wrong... don't blame me.
You will also need the keyboard fix found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1565226&postcount=1
Later.
-Daniel

dweidman said:
Step 1: Download and use kaiser-HardSPLv1.zip and follow directions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1562805&postcount=1
Step 2: Download HTC rom from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/5781641...dio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.rar.html
UnRar and run the executable.
Pat yourself on the back for getting me to type this out instead of reading the other forum yourself. ;-)
Oh - and if anything goes wrong... don't blame me.
You will also need the keyboard fix found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1565226&postcount=1
Later.
-Daniel
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You guys are great, I can see a sprite of sharing and helping in this forum. Again, you guys are the best, especially thanks to Daniel.
I bought a Chinese unlocked version Kaiser in Hong Kong, and I found out that it is not that convenience to me even though I can read Chinese. With Chinese Windows, it runs very slow. I decided to flash the ROM with HTC standard English ROM.
However, because of warranty issue, I need to backup the Chinese OS ROM, and restore it to its original setting if in case I have to take it back to HTC for repairing.
I am totally new to PPC or WM devices (I used to be a Palm lover), I wonder if anyone of you can tell me how to "Backup" and "Restore" the ROM. Detail instructions will be highly appreciated.
Sorry for my stupid questions, but I really don't know how. Whether I get the instructions or not, YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!

Newbie quick questions

I'm getting a tilt this saturday(christmas money) but i have some questions.
1. Is a Kaiser worth the extra money in stead of a tilt? I tried a few comparisons, all i noticed was a little less usable memory and a front camera.
2. I've read about ROM but i don't really get it. i think it is like your operating system on a PC. if i want to take off the at&t rom and have the HTC rom is that an upgrade ?
3. What is flashing? is that like reformating a pc?

Will Someone Help Me Please?

With a new rom you can add more features, sure this can be done by installing applications. But if you see the rom of dutty, its tweaked they make the phone faster, that is all wat we want.
Yeah you can say that the rom is the same as your operating system on your pc.
I have no experience with the AT&T so i can't help you on that point.

^^THANKS^^

If you haven't read the Wiki yet, you will find a lot of info there. This community can be very helpful, but as a point of ettitquite, people are generally more apt to help if you have done some homework first including reading through the Wiki and Searching (use google search here).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615
In case you missed it, it is right at the top of the fourm thread list.

jgermuga said:
If you haven't read the Wiki yet, you will find a lot of info there. This community can be very helpful, but as a point of ettitquite, people are generally more apt to help if you have done some homework first including reading through the Wiki and Searching (use google search here).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615
In case you missed it, it is right at the top of the fourm thread list.
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Yes, i have read the general wiki, and the tilt & kaiser wiki. I never knew you could and programs other than games untill a few days ago. I'm just trying to learn as much as i can before i ruin my phone.

Savage Life said:
Yes, i have read the general wiki, and the tilt & kaiser wiki. I never knew you could and programs other than games untill a few days ago. I'm just trying to learn as much as i can before i ruin my phone.
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Also check out the upgrading section of the Kaiser folder. There are now a whole slew of ROMs and choosing the right one is really a matter of taste. In this respect, it help a lot to first discover all the little things tat annoy you about the ROM you have and there's a good chance it annoyed some else too and they changed it in the form of a ROM customization.

"first things first" for newbies sticky, thread, etc.?

So my Tilt is practically brand new, & I have used it like three times so far. The only things I've done is order (most) of the accessories that I'll (at least initially) need for it. But as far as how it runs or operates, it's bone stock & brand new.
What should I do to it first?
What r.o.m. / firmware should I run?
What should I remove & what should I add?
Is there any sort of a "first things first" for newbies sticky, thread, etc.?
Would it help if I told you guys what I want it to do & how I want it run?
Or is this generic enough in nature so that's not necessary?
Thanks in advance for all your help, guys.

first thing would be the wiki..

always install Hard SPL
(It's like a condom for your phone!)

Bookmarked.
gladwin said:
first thing would be the wiki..
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Both the Kaiser forum and the Tilt-specific wiki are now bookmarked.

There is a also a newbie guide thread

Link, please.
persiansown said:
There is a also a newbie guide thread
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Link, please.

awdbeast said:
So my Tilt is practically brand new, & I have used it like three times so far.
What r.o.m. / firmware should I run?
Would it help if I told you guys what I want it to do & how I want it run?
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Why do so many first time posters ask what ROM to run? It strikes me as kinda like buying a new GM car, driving it out of the showroom, straight round to the service dept and asking them if the engine is good enough, or should you rip it out and chuck a Ford engine in.
Knowing what you need it to do/ run is helpful as I doubt my needs are the same as your, so any advice I, or anyone else gives, on mods, tweeks etc won't necesarily meet your needs. To give you an idea, my last phone was the HTC Universal, I changed from a WM5 to a WM6 ROM. I lost video call, and the device wasn't as stable, but I had to do that in order to get the device to do one particular thing (pair with my bluetooth carkit using RSAP). If it wasn't for this, I would have left the stock ROM in the thing.
You say you've used it 3 times so far. Personally, I would use it a while longer, see if there is anything you don't like then have a look around the forums to see if there is a fix. Whilst your doing that, have a look around the forums anyway to see if there is anything you like the look of. One of the mods I made to my Kaiser was installing the upgraded camera CAB. I hardly use the camera and this was a kind of 'just for the hell of it' mod. The rest of my Kaiser is stock, same ROM, same Radio as it was supplied with, its fine just the way it was designed. Give it a month of use, list what your not happy with, then see if there is something that will shorten that list.

I totally agree with Steve-C.
This is what you need to do, and in the order that you need to do it:
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the manual
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the wiki
Play with your device to get to know it.
Read the forums
Play with your device to get to know it.
After you have completed these steps, you will know the answer to everything you asked... and if not, then post specific questions.

help with alot of apps

hey guys
i have searched through alot of forum and sites but i can't find the stuff i am looking for
seeing alot of kaiser lovers here i hoped you guys could help me
i have wm 6.0 wanted to update to 6.1y can't find how or with what (patch/rom?)or cab?
olso i cant play things with flash 7 is there a way to do that?
i olso want to use touchflo manilla 2d like in the sticky but if it goes bad will it bring my kaiser in problems?and so what kind of problems
and last after alot of searching i found some ppc apps sites but are there apps for kaiser which are must haves?
thanks to all who reads or helps

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hey guys
i have searched through alot of forum and sites but i can't find the stuff i am looking for
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Wow, man, Really what could you have read if you can't find these answers? They are all here. They are all listed in google. Hell I just did a google search for; tilt 6.1 update and came up 1st to this site..... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=tilt+6.1+update
That said;
1. If I was you, I would just install the ATT rom for your phone. No hassels, and since you have a hard time figuring stuff out on our own there ain't much to worry about. Get it here. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=67&cat=all
You want the : AT&T Tilt Update - Version 3.57.502.2
This will run Manilla 2d without any issues that I have seen.
2. Other than that man you are on your own. What applications are must haves is a personal choice. What I must have and what you must have are really two different things.
3. As for flash 7 I just use skyfire. It plays everything. Google it and sign up. Its really just that easy.
4. I might have suggested a rom or two for ya, but you don't even list if your phone is unlocked which leads me to believe that it isn't, at least not by your hands, so I steared clear of the thought
Good Luck. Do alot more reading. Alot, and then read it all again.

thnx for the reply in the link of yours i cant find a cab or download file i have found one today but i need to connect it with my pc which crashed last week so i will do it somewhere today on work
skyfire is only for usa and i live in europe
i don't think its unlocked at least not by me

[Q] i'm a noob to modifying phone software

i just got my upgrade, to the att HTC tilt 2 (opened the box today). when i upgrade i always research, i read about software issues to stock units and a couple ppl spoke of mods. i don't know the language of mods, but i learn fast. i need to know a few basic terms, procedures and what i need to speed up and stop the error msgs i have gotten multipule times just today. which mods are the most user friendly and least glitchy. thank you to all in advance.

hippy joe said:
i just got my upgrade, to the att HTC tilt 2 (opened the box today). when i upgrade i always research, i read about software issues to stock units and a couple ppl spoke of mods. i don't know the language of mods, but i learn fast. i need to know a few basic terms, procedures and what i need to speed up and stop the error msgs i have gotten multipule times just today. which mods are the most user friendly and least glitchy. thank you to all in advance.
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look around in the rom sections and use the "search" function without hesitation.
also search around before posting a question or request, to avoid reposts and nuisances.
hope this helps

hippy joe said:
i just got my upgrade, to the att HTC tilt 2 (opened the box today). when i upgrade i always research, i read about software issues to stock units and a couple ppl spoke of mods. i don't know the language of mods, but i learn fast. i need to know a few basic terms, procedures and what i need to speed up and stop the error msgs i have gotten multipule times just today. which mods are the most user friendly and least glitchy. thank you to all in advance.
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Heya Hippie! And congrats on a great device. I've had my Tilt 2 for about 9 months now and just keep loving it more and more. What are you looking to do to the fone besides stop the error messages? Lemme know, I can give you any help you need. Or you can email me directly or leave me a message on here. I've learned what to look for and also to watch out for, but as anyone here will tell you, we all have differences of opinions, likes and dislikes. Also depending on your taste and how far you'd like to go with your device will vary how far we can go. To get rid of any error messages, which one I can guarantee says: need NETCF.Messages.EN.wm.cab (May not include the ".cab") That's one I ran into a lot before I got a ROM from the threads here. I promise you Hippie, anything you may need will most likely be here on XDA-Developers. This is a great site with many awesome people. As the previous post mentions, use the search at the top. It will help you a great deal!!
Good Luck!!
Jeremy

thanks, panther. I found on the HTC website that they recomend replacing touchflo 3d with sense, which i did and thought i'd give it a try. error messages are gone but it still has a few things i don't like about it. so i think i may try something new when i get the time to. i see your configurations and i think i'll start there, seeing how you are happy with it. then i'll go from there if i want to try something else