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There are two small buttons (each marked with a small horizontal line) on the keyboard. The left is over the letters R and T. It is assigned to the "Send" button for email. The trouble is that it is very easy to hit by accident when typing R or T, and then the email flies off prematurely! The right one is assigned to the Menu and if you hit it by accident, it is easy to correct (just hit the OK button). Is there a way of remapping these two buttons? Except for this issue, the email with Kaiser is perfect. Does the AT&T Tilt have the same problem?
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
dscline said:
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
Anyone else got a solution to this problem, I'm fed up with sending half-finished e-mails!
I haven't played with AE Button Plus, but if you can assign "No Action" to a button (which some of the add-ons let you do) and do that for the messaging app specifically, then that would be a solution to the problem of large fingers/thumbs. The you could remap one of the FN keys you never use to the context menu or send...
TexasPenguin said:
Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
dscline said:
As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys - AE ButtonPlus specifically says this in it's FAQ. Remapping the "send" key is application-specific - it only becomes the Send key when you launch Outlook. So how did you manage to re-map this key?
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys...
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The distinction is between remapping the softkey, or remapping the hardkey that correlates to the softkey. What the remappers can't do is change the function of the softkey... if, for example, Outlook is coded to make the left softkey the send key, you can't change that. That's programmed in to Outlook. But what you CAN change is whether or not the hard button that corresponds to the left softkey is recognized as the left softkey. For example, I've remapped the single press of the hard keys that correspond to the L & R softkeys to copy and paste, respectively. If I open Outlook, the soft softkey (the button on the touchscreen) is still going to be send. But my hard button is no longer mapped to be a softkey, it's mapped to be copy.
I used all the programs from the thread that you pointed out, including the cab file that was mentioned. This allowed me to change the left front soft key but does not affect the assignment of the left keyboard soft key as "Reply" when in email mode and with the keyboard slided out. Is there a way to change the left soft key assignment only for the email (eliminate the reply option) or just inactivate the left soft key altogether? I have installed the SoftKey applet form your thread in my Settings.
I sent my reply to one of the earlier messages wihout having read all the answers that came after it....I was out of the office for a couple of hours..my apologies. I will find the AE button plus and give it a try, but is there any registry solution? they usually work the best.
I downloaded and used the AE Button Plus, and it worked! I set it to double press and that did the trick. The program is very good by the way, the only one that allows multiple pressing options, etc.Many thanks!
I have benefited from this thread!
Thanks everybody.
Adequate description on the issue provided, and adequate solutions and then a follow up post.
A really appealing solution would be to isolate the keyboard softkeys from the front ones. I tried the double press method but it turned out to be incredibly annoying and I'm not sure that constant annoyance is outweighed by an accidental softkey hit on the keyboard. What I'd like to do is disable the keyboard softkeys while leaving the front ones completely intact on a single press.
I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Thank you, AE Button Plus worked great. I just deactivated the "Left Softkey" and now I don't have to take care of that damned button anymore.
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I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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I've been using touchscreen pocket pc's for a while and no such instinct has kicked in.
so no one has an answer besides installing that AE button plus prog on the phone?
try removing the actual key. i wouldn't try it but it may work.
I'm really glad I found this thread, I keep sending half written and blank sms messages because of the left soft and keep doing weird things because of the right one. It's gonna cost me a fortune in text messages so I'm gonna go try that prog mentioned.
It would be better for a solution more specific to the application but this is certainly better than nothing!
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
firstbuddha said:
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
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I think we have a WINNER SOLUTION
Hi all,
Anyone can help to remap the hard button??
I want to change the Home key to Alt-tab, and the Back key change to OK/Close (1 press for ok and long press for real close the application). I have tried AE button plus, but not function very well.
Attached is the Alt-tab s/w i have used.
Don't know why HTC put a Home and Back key in WM pro device
Thank you very much,
did you reset the device after you changed the settings?
yes, but still doesn't work
There's a software called Hbutton. You might wanna try it.
Just tried Hbutton, but it doesn't work on diamond.........
Awww.. now how am I gonna survive on the diamond without Hbutton?!
There's another software called SmartSkeys (or something oike that) Not sure of it'll work.
Anyone got any suggestions on which software to use to map diamond buttons to many functionalities?
This one works on Diamond: AE Button Plus.
To my understanding from testing AEButton on the Diamond, I have realized that:
The HOME key cannot be remapped.
The Back key is essentially a "WIN" key. You can create a new button and remap the Back key. HOWEVER, the shortcuts DOES NOT WORK when you are at today screen. So here is what I do, I remapped the Back key single click to "Escape". double click to close program, long click to close all programs.
Thats the only logical thing i can think about using the back button due to the limitations.
Any ideas?
Escape = ok/close ?
With AEB Plus I managed to map "action long" to "task manager", but the setting doesn't seem to survive a soft reset.
Problem with TouchFLO 3D.
Disable TouchFLO 3D, you might map home/ok button by mappingware.
Setting -> Personal -> Today -> Items
Use SortInchKey, if you enable TouchFLO, you might map VolUp/VolDown/Ok(exclude Today screen) buttons.
Tried AE Button Plus 2.6.3, the "ok" button in AE Button Plus list can refer to back key, my setting is press 1 to minimize, long press to close current application. However, AE Button Plus can't handle the Home button. I already sent a request to them, hope their next version can sort it out.
I'm posting here to find this later. I use AEB on all my devices and want a Diamond. Hopefully it gets "worked out".
tkhs said:
Problem with TouchFLO 3D.
Disable TouchFLO 3D, you might map home/ok button by mappingware.
Setting -> Personal -> Today -> Items
Use SortInchKey, if you enable TouchFLO, you might map VolUp/VolDown/Ok(exclude Today screen) buttons.
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Yes, the mappings worked when TouchFLO was disabled. But when TouchFLO was enabled again, the mappings then didn't work.
Can someone please help me?
I use a golf GPS/Scoring program on my diamond (mobile golf scorer) and on it there is an option to use hardware button to turn display on/off, this keeps the gps active permantly. Its mapped in the program as 'button c' which from what i can tell should be the 'right hardware button' on a usual ppc.
I'm trying to map it as 'back button' using AEBPlus but it will only work on the main diamond screen or 'today' screen. I've tried mapping it to various buttons on the diamond but When i start the golf program it does not work.
Has anyone any ideas? I need to remap a button that will turn the display off no matter what i'm running.
Thanks again
I'd love to change the function of the "Back Button" aswell,
it has been annoying me since the first day I got it.
HButton seemed very promising, but sadly, it doesn't work.
Do hardware keys also have a registry number like the softkeys?
Like 112/113 for the softkeys?
Wondering anyone will use "Home" and "Back" button regularly....Maybe u guys can share your experience on how to smartly use this 2 buttons as I don't have any idea.........
Hello everyone!
This topic is very actual especially on all russian forums (hpc.ru 4pda.ru 4pda.info). Did anyone overcomed this difficulty with remapping hardware buttons? I tryed AEButton Plus but I was unsuccessfull in remapping the dimaond's "back" button - is there any one who did it? Please share the experience - it would be very very usefull to remap this button and to bind it to launching Dynamo3 task manager.
Thanks in advance.
ILya.
None of the programs named here work correctly on the Diamond, including AE Buttons Plus.
However, these buttons CAN be mapped. I know that because the capacitive buttons tester program can detect and show that you pressed these buttons. While this program is active, if you press the home key, it shows that you pressed the home key, but you don't go to the home screen. So it's possible, but only HTC knows how. We need their API's.
aydc said:
None of the programs named here work correctly on the Diamond, including AE Buttons Plus.
However, these buttons CAN be mapped. I know that because the capacitive buttons tester program can detect and show that you pressed these buttons. While this program is active, if you press the home key, it shows that you pressed the home key, but you don't go to the home screen. So it's possible, but only HTC knows how. We need their API's.
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so this method willn't work too? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355141
the silly part on the htc side is to have 3 of 4 hw buttons do almost the same - if you are in an application, pressing home, back or hang-up button will act as "escape". am i wrong?
for one thing, it would be at least useful to have an "ok" button.
the ideal setup for me would be to use the "go to the tf3d home tab" function of the home key by pressing the "hang-up" button and use the home key as "ok"...
First of all, thanks for all good advices and programs from you guys!
My question: How could I remap the Home button to go to SPB Now instead of WM Today?
Thanks an Happy New Year!
Remap...
You can use this application, which uses the touch panel to scroll in apps and use the four hardware buttons to launch apps by touch, thus giving you 4 buttons to map applications to. It's worth a look at least.
I've not heard of anyone actually remapping the 'Home' key itself.
you probably cannot remap home key unless you modify its keypad driver. By the time I bought this, I also thought I could remap or hook the hardware keys to other actions as other WM devices can but it does it in an unusual way that limit the possibility of the OS itself. Moreover, the keys often does not response or response wrongly, you just cannot rely on them as you could on other PDA.
try dredsensor!
it works~ but it doesnt go well with my BSB WM6.5 rom's titanium screen. can scroll or use arrow (up or down) on the titanium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478827
Hello,
i'm looking for a replacement for AEBplus
I only need a few simple things:
left and right button - should rotate my screen, like it does when i open the keypad
ok button - task manager (or today screen from where i could start the taskmanager)
ok button (long press) - start an application
end call (long press) - lock the device (the you need to enter your password kind of lock)
What program other that AEB can do that and wont use as much CPU resources as AEB does?
you can just go to settings>buttons and assign either keft or right soft key to screen rotate, easiest way IMO
No i cant..there is only the left and right softkey button. Nothing else..and i could not setup a long press this way.
nurps said:
No i cant..there is only the left and right softkey button. Nothing else..and i could not setup a long press this way.
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x1ButtonMapper, already tried that?
cheers
I use AEButon Plus on my X1a and I am thrilled with it. It doesn't have much (if any) negative effect on performance on mine.
Have you tried it on the X1?
Also for End Key there is a program called "Long Press End Key" I think. It is nice, and cooked into a lot of ROMs.
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I use AEButon Plus on my X1a ...
Have you tried it on the X1?
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hi m8, he's trying to replace it with an alternative app...as stated in #1
DrakenKorin said:
x1ButtonMapper, already tried that?
cheers
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Havent tried that yet, can it do what i want?
I guess i could use mortscript for rotation, long press is obviously possible.
But what do i use as fast taskmanager? Can i start the built in taskmanager as application? And what can i use to password lock my device?
Edit: seems i loose the TAB key with X1ButtonMapper and the EndCall button isnt inclueded...thats bad
Is there a way to change some of the keys directly in the registry?
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Havent tried that yet, can it do what i want?
I guess i could use mortscript for rotation, long press is obviously possible.
But what do i use as fast taskmanager? Can i start the built in taskmanager as application? And what can i use to password lock my device?
Edit: seems i loose the TAB key with X1ButtonMapper and the EndCall button isnt inclueded...thats bad
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have a look here, didn't check, just searched (doing your homework btw...)
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Is there a way to change some of the keys directly in the registry?
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advanced config - menu (button) - more settings - key mappings
Mobile Magic doenst support the buttons i need. No longpress for End and no support for the OK button at all..that was the first program i tried.
To bad the options for the End key are grey in Advanced Conifg.
X1BC should allow for a lot more options than mx X1ButtonMapper. I think there is also a second application from the same author called X1BH or something. Check that out.
X1ButtonMapper is pretty lightweight actually. The most overhead involved will be by calling the script functionality but that is done asynchronous, meaning that X1ButtonMapper doesn't wait for the called application or script to finish - it just launches it.
I didn't remap the red and green phone buttons because they can't be easily remapped and I think they are central buttons which should keep their original functionality. I think remapping them will cause more bugs than you will gain functionality. With X1ButtonMapper you already gain enough options for the remaining keys (each with short and long press) which should be enough for most applications. You can also reassign the missing FN+key combos on the keyboard.
I did use the Tab key as Ctrl substitude because I think Tab is not important for Windows Mobile. It is substituted in most dialogs with the right/left keys so use these. You can get the original Tab function when pressing FN+Tab for the few situations where you really need it.
I am using X1ButtonMapper for a long time now and havn't had any stability issues - maybe that's the trade off for having less features.
X1Button manager somehow didnt react to my OK key. I allready have a standalone taskmanager mortscript could run but Ok didnt do anythink. Longpress of the softkeys to rotate the screen worked nicely though.
Longpress delay is a little longer than im used to but that not a big problem.
The longpress of the End key has allready a keylock function as standard setting (wich i find totally stupid because i turn the device of with the switch on top). There must be a registry setting that i could alter so it would run the password lock instead.
I will check into X1BC...
X1BC works thank you...and i like it much more than X1BM because i can setup everything to my likings, longpress timing, vibration on/off and wether i want a Control key replacement.
I could even use the panel key to lock my device if reprogramming of the end key button is not possible.
Does anyone know wich program i have to run to password lock my device? Maybe its possbile with mortscript..i should check that...
Hello XDA'ers,
I am wondering what the reason behind why the buttons (camera, power, green, red, etc.) in Android on HTC Vogue map to the various tasks they do? For example, the camera button is back, but why not the red button? Is this something hard set in Android and cannot be changed or did someone specifically set it up this way for a reason?
Secondly I am wondering if I create a new "keylayout file" (source.android.com/porting/keymaps_keyboard_input.html) or modify the default one in /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl will I be able to change the mapping of these buttons?
Compared to the Win Mobile mapping, they button layout can take some getting used to,
but once you get used to it, it's actually a very cool layout, especially if you are right handed.
You can hold the phone in your left hand, and use your thumb to access the settings 'top button',
Use your ring-finger to always back-out or end an app
Green button for phone / initiating calls
Red button to end a call, sleep mode, or power off
I wish the d-pad had more use, but I'm always using the stylus, so barely use it.
Would love for the d-pad center key to maybe be the main power-off button.
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... It's actually a very cool layout.
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I wish the d-pad had more use, but I'm always using the stylus, so barely use it.
Would love for the d-pad center key to maybe be the main power-off button.
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I completely agree the current layout is a very cool layout indeed, but as I imagine most people on here like to tinker it may be interesting to know how to customize the button bindings.
I am not sure if its just a matter of changing the button layout file.
I looked at that qwerty.kl file in the android.tgz
It looks like its just a mapping file, and if you change the mapping, you change
buttons,
but doesn't that mean you're just re-mapping the button itself?
Not re-mapping its functionality?
I.e., if you remapped the camera button to the d-pad center, for example, then
the d-pad center would do all functions the camera button used to do,
and the camera button would do any functions the d-pad center would?
Seems like you'd actually have to change more code than just the .kl file?
i wrote this application for polaris, and with simple changes you can add the vogue setup...