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I'm currently using Hermes (8525) and thinking about getting Kaiser. If you have had Hermes before I'd like to hear your word of wisdom from whomever have had both devices for practical usage. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury to keep both.
What I love about the Hermes that's not found in Kaiser are flash light, IrDa, and comm manager button. On the other hand Hermes is missing GPS, bigger memory, the "possibility" of having hardware accelerated graphics, supposedly better camera, tilting hinges, and in my particular case front camera (I'm using 8525 and there's no _practical_ solution to put the front camera in and if I were to get Kaiser it better be NOT AT&T tilt that has no front camera as well).
I'm afraid I'll be missing Hermes exclusive features if I switch to Kaiser, even though I don't use those features too often. It is however very tempting especially the built in GPS feature (yes I have followed the hidden GPS thread and struck down by the bad news that we can't practically revive the chip in Hermes).
A word of advice or two from you guys would be very appreciated.
PS: I posted this in Hermes forum a while ago and I'm also interested to hear Kaiser owners' opinion about this too.
cyberblue said:
I'm currently using Hermes (8525) and thinking about getting Kaiser. If you have had Hermes before I'd like to hear your word of wisdom from whomever have had both devices for practical usage. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury to keep both.
What I love about the Hermes that's not found in Kaiser are flash light, IrDa, and comm manager button. On the other hand Hermes is missing GPS, bigger memory, the "possibility" of having hardware accelerated graphics, supposedly better camera, tilting hinges, and in my particular case front camera (I'm using 8525 and there's no _practical_ solution to put the front camera in and if I were to get Kaiser it better be NOT AT&T tilt that has no front camera as well).
I'm afraid I'll be missing Hermes exclusive features if I switch to Kaiser, even though I don't use those features too often. It is however very tempting especially the built in GPS feature (yes I have followed the hidden GPS thread and struck down by the bad news that we can't practically revive the chip in Hermes).
A word of advice or two from you guys would be very appreciated.
PS: I posted this in Hermes forum a while ago and I'm also interested to hear Kaiser owners' opinion about this too.
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This is kind of like going onto the Corvette Club of America forum and saying " I'm thinking of trading my Chevy Malibu for a Corvette, what do you think?" My Tilt is Great. I personally have never experience any of the quirks others have complained about. If you like the new features and upgrade possibilites better. Then do it.
Out of everything that I read, I decided that it was NOT worth the upgrade. Then my Hermes started acting up BADLY with white screens and buttons that stopped working. So I reluctantly upgraded sooner than I intended.
I have loved my Kaiser. The 400mhz vs 400mhz CPU doesnt explain much why my Kaiser is so much faster than my Hermes. And I love the GPS .... and the battery life is better.
Also I never could find a radio where I could leave on 3G inside my condo and not drop calls. I tried and tried and tried. I leave 3G on my Kaiser with NO dropped calls even inside exactly where my Hermes would drop calls - and the 3G is not sucking the battery like on the Hermes.
I was the same way. I think it depends on the price that you will have to pay. I was able to get the Kaiser (Tilt) when it first came it on AT&T and I just couldn't pass it up. Now having had it for over a year, and knowing the differences, I would have paid more if I had to. I know that I may have been reluctant to pay more at the time, but it's one of those things where, "Now looking back, I would do it all over again" (but with more money ) if that makes any sense...
I've said this before elsewhere, but here goes again...
I broke my Hermes. If I had not broken it, I would not have upgraded to the Kaiser.
Now, I have a Kaiser and I don't consider it to be vastly better than the Hermes. Perhaps it was the way I use my phone that makes this the case, or perhaps it is that the O2 ROM was the limiting factor. Either way, I don't think it would tempt me to upgrade or renew my contract, so will be onto a rolling 1-month contract until a more exciting handset (am thinking Raphael) turns up.
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This is kind of like going onto the Corvette Club of America forum and saying " I'm thinking of trading my Chevy Malibu for a Corvette, what do you think?" My Tilt is Great. I personally have never experience any of the quirks others have complained about. If you like the new features and upgrade possibilites better. Then do it.
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malibu vs vette is too much of a stretch and you didn't give perspective on both sides as to comparing one to the other.
to answer cyberblue's question:
I have used hermes before though never owned one. to me built in gps is a must and i chose tilt solely because of that. if i were willing to tote a bluetooth gps device, i wouldn't have bothered getting a tilt.
if you can wait a little longer, see if the new upcoming htc devices has all that you like. mind you that infra red is probably not going to be present in newer devices.
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malibu vs vette is too much of a stretch and you didn't give perspective on both sides as to comparing one to the other.
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Seriously ?
I agree with KVD, no offence, but it really isnt much like what you said.
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I agree with KVD, no offence, but it really isnt much like what you said.
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You both totally missed my point, I was not comparing cars. What my point was, was that much like the Corvette Club of America, everyone there has one, everyone is an enthusiast or they would be part of the club and you probably will not get an unbiased opinion if that is what he was looking for?
If he was interested in unbiased reviews he should check the review sites
Again seriously?
I live in Toronto, Canada and I'm thinking about buying an unlocked x1a for to use with Rogers.
I'm about to drop some serious green on this phone and I'm wondering if there's anyone who has one that regrets buying it, and wishes that they got something else instead.
(x1a should work on Canadian 3g bands right?)
well,if you like to modify your phone (flashing roms,doing various performance tweaking etc), then X1 would be good for you. Its not that good straight out of the box,but after some modifications then it'll be a beast (performance wise)
unfortunately i dont know anything about 3g in canada,so i cant help u on that...
any regret on buying X1? well no...because after about 4 months this phone has been working beautifully on me, apart from that slight keyboard sensitivity problem. Everything else is fine though...although i might want to check out touch pro 2 when its out
after looking at the touch pro 2, there is definitely some regret.
No regrets at all. On the contrary, this device is a perfect mean between size, battery life, performance and stability. The keyboard takes some getting used to and I personally only use the SPB panel; I think the whole panel concept is useless, but the device is very good.
No regrets at all after dropping $1200cdn on it. If I were to buy a phone today I would still get the X1a. X1a works on Rogers here no problems.
I might if I had given 650€ (1100 CAD), but I bought it slightly used from a friend for 290€ (470 CAD) and I got his original receipt and warranty for the rest 22 months. So, for me it was a cheap phone and I can't really regret buying it.
Other than that, if I had given the full price, I would really expect the battery to last as promised, meaning at least 5 days and not 24-40 hours! (Maybe it will last for 5-7 days if you never use it).
No regrets. Maybe next time I could've bought the HTC Touch HD. Thinner, bigger screen, but no qwerty. HD is also slightly cheaper. However, for me it's perfect. Windows Mobile is awesome btw.
nope i wouldnt hv gotten anything else. i did consider the TouchHD and the Innov8.
but i wanted something that looks cool, fits perfectly in my palm and a qwerty keyboard.
its not a perfect phone but its awesome and i hv no regrets.
the only thing I dislike on my xperia is the embossed screen, as it make difficult to press X button... but remember that we have an hw key for that
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the only thing I dislike on my xperia is the embossed screen, as it make difficult to press X button... but remember that we have an hw key for that
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I don't really regret it.
Although it isn't a cheap phone.
I was planning to buy a Touch HD, but I need a hardware keyboard.
Xperia is still in "in an early stage". I think SE is still busy with giving lots of support to developers and planning to make it a better product. This is just a matter of time.
if you need a new phone (i mean right now), it isn't bad to buy a Xperia
i absolutely have no regrets. About battery power, this is excellent. 9he people that dont get enough battery time are because they have tons of things installed and running, like pointui, s2u2, touchflow etc, etc. i can honestly tell you that from the 27+ phones i have had in the last 2 years, including iphone, n95, htc diamond, moto q9, n71, BB pearl, curve and countless others, that the experia beats all of them hands down in terms of battery life. The only thing i regret was how sony didnt think of the xperia earlier before i wasted my money on so many lesser pieces of hardware. I woukd buy the xperia again no hassles. I admit, no phones perfect, but to me, the xperia is pretty darn close.
PRK
Having a Symbian UIQ phone for over 5 years i was very reluctant to give in to the whole Windows Mobile idea. Sony Ericsson then dumped the UIQ platform and the X1i seemed like the ideal replacement for my old P990i.
I have to say i was impressed with the build quality of the X1i compared with the quality of P990 and P910i that i had previously the X1 is very solid and its form factor is great.
As for regrets, none at all. The only regret i have is that i have so many cooked ROMs to choose from on here that i flash my phone every other month just for the fun of it! haha
Thanks for all the responses. This is a really tough decision for me because I'm a super indecisive person. I do love modding and flashing my phone so that won't be a problem, reading a lot of reviews I find that reviewers can't really find anything wrong with the phone, whatever they say is bad with it is usually something trivial: cnet says the panel buttons are weird to press, mobilepower says the top row of the keyboard isn't laid out that great, etc.
My main concern is watching those "vs" videos on youtube like touch pro vs xperia, xperia usually doesn't come out on top, but people in the videos seem biased, and the comments usually point that out and say why the xperia is still a great phone.
I realize you guys are probably a little biased since you're all xperia owners, but I'm glad to see the majority of people are happy with it =)
I just hope the modding community can get android working for the x1a in the near future =)
I regret totally
after the first couple days or weeks of trying to figure it out...you will love it. if your brand new to WM it will consume your life trying to get it up to your needs then,your set.
She said, Is that all? Ive seen bigger.
Do I regret it? Humm... two words for Ya
hell no.
imho the best winmo device at the moment. first qwerty PDA which actually doesn't look like a massive soap bar.
no regrets.. it is a awesome phone.. i love it.. SE rules
MichaelWalker said:
Thanks for all the responses. This is a really tough decision for me because I'm a super indecisive person. I do love modding and flashing my phone so that won't be a problem, reading a lot of reviews I find that reviewers can't really find anything wrong with the phone, whatever they say is bad with it is usually something trivial: cnet says the panel buttons are weird to press, mobilepower says the top row of the keyboard isn't laid out that great, etc.
My main concern is watching those "vs" videos on youtube like touch pro vs xperia, xperia usually doesn't come out on top, but people in the videos seem biased, and the comments usually point that out and say why the xperia is still a great phone.
I realize you guys are probably a little biased since you're all xperia owners, but I'm glad to see the majority of people are happy with it =)
I just hope the modding community can get android working for the x1a in the near future =)
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ok mate a few things if i review the phone on cnet my self and show the real potential of what this phone can do it will blow your mind away. but i dnt have a cam neither alot of time.
i was just like you thinking of buying and reading mixed reviews and confused,but finaly one day i stabbed my wallet in the butt and bought this.
hardware wise the build quality is good,and overall it feels like a very solid device and exotic sort of device in hand.
as far as software goes ur in for a ride my first impression of it i was realy bad,it realy dissapointed me.
but as soon as you start flashing ur gona fell in love with your phone manila,tf3d,6.1,6.5 and ur gona start hating every phone except x1.
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The only regret i have is that i have so many cooked ROMs to choose from on here that i flash my phone every other month just for the fun of it! haha
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so true...
No regrets at all also.Even my wife is considering to drop her diamond and get x1 instead.( i really hope she do it asap)
I'm glad that I got an X1 to see how SE would go about making a WM phone, but I do regret getting one now. The cracks in the casing as well as backlight bleed on the screen corners spoil it for me.
It doesn't help that the Touch Pro2 (Rhodium) is almost exactly what I'm looking for.
Large WVGA screen
"Full" keyboard
Accelerometer
I'm sorely tempted to swap the X1 for a Touch Pro, buy a Touch Pro2 SIM-free and sell the Touch Pro to offset the cost.
Hi,
My contract is up so I now have the chance to upgrade my phone (I am also probably goig to move to Vodafone), but am not sure what to get.
The main things I like about the Kaiser are:
Email - although would love to be able to active sync with more than one account, but I guess that is a windows thing.
GPS - I use Google Maps and Memory Map a lot
Keyboard - it's nice to have a half decent keyboard to use. I prefer the Kaiser layout to one of the balckberry ones.
WiFi - although if I can get a decent 3G deal it would be less of an issue
I would like to have something with a better camera.
I don't actually mind going a little bigger if it provides a bigger screen - I used to have a universal so am used to a slightly bigger phone. I use it a lot in the car for satnav so a bigger screen helps here.
It would also be handy if I had a phone that would run a decent VoIP package over 3G when I am away from work so that I can pickup office calls.
So what would you suggest as an upgrade over the Kaiser?
I recently asked a similiar question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512979
I cannot find a phone from at&t that I like as much or more than the tilt. So I am just going to wait and see what comes out. I too would like a better camera and gps is a must. I thought of the iphone but now that at&t has killed access to the slingbox and the iphone doesnt allow tethering, I am staying away from it.
Let me know if you find anything.
Jim
Looking at the HTC website I quite like the HTC Touch Pro 2, but it doesn't seem to be out yet.
As a TP user I am very disappointed in its descendant. It is way too big and has lost the straight lines that made the TP/Diamond/Diamond2 beautiful. It looks a bit like a soap
Having had a Universal beforehand I don't think that the size should matter to me too much. Moving from the Kaiser the bigger screen will and a better keyboard would be a bonus.
Hi there...
"Offically" the Fuze is supposed to be the replacement for the Tilt.. But I personally am not a fan of it... The next one I want to get is the Touch Pro2 .. I saw someone else posted about it, and it is out now.. The only problem is the price is high.. but it should come down... It has everything the tilt has, but newer & better.. Stylewise, it looks more like the tilt.. It has the rounded cordners and very simmilar shape.. It also has the tilting screen... I did not realize how much I used that feature until I had to do without it for a while... The keyboard is nice... 5 row... and from what I seen is just about perfect... higher res screen...
If I could afford it, I would have this one already
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Hi there...
"Offically" the Fuze is supposed to be the replacement for the Tilt.. But I personally am not a fan of it... The next one I want to get is the Touch Pro2 .. I saw someone else posted about it, and it is out now.. The only problem is the price is high.. but it should come down... It has everything the tilt has, but newer & better.. Stylewise, it looks more like the tilt.. It has the rounded cordners and very simmilar shape.. It also has the tilting screen... I did not realize how much I used that feature until I had to do without it for a while... The keyboard is nice... 5 row... and from what I seen is just about perfect... higher res screen...
If I could afford it, I would have this one already
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I agree. I had the Fuze and returned it. I am waiting for the Touch Pro2.
Try the Samsong Epix
I got a free replacement of my Tilt after only having it for 8 months. In that time I have had to swap it out !5! times and kept getting replacements that would work for only a month or so. I was offered any phone I wanted and I chose the Samsong Epix.
I seriously looked at the Fuse but I read too many complaints about it on this and many other forums.
These are the reasons I chose the Epix-
1. The Epix has ALL of the features that the Tilt has except the tilting keyboard. The screen is a bit smaller 320x320 -3/4 inch top to bottom but I am not missing that.
2. The Epix is the same overall size, half as thick and weighs 2oz less.
3. The Epix is WM 6.1 phone on the format of the Blackberies with a very usable keyboard at the bottom.
4. The Epix has a 1.8 amphour battery that will last three days using bluetooth, gps, and internet, and heavy phone calls.
5. The Epix has a Thumb Mouse that is just wonderful. I never have to use a stylus any more.
6. On the Epix I can easily adjust the volume of BT, speaker, ring and handset very loud as I don't hear well.
I am not here to bash the Tilt, I just got fed up with it crapping out every five to six weeks. My one year warranty will be up in a couple of months and AT&T told me that if the Tilt fails after that, I will have to pay full price for replacements.[no way in hell!!]
Im really starting to consider the X1, but i want to know if the X2 (or whatever it will be called) has plenty of new parts in the interface will this be able to be ported to the X1, so that in a sense when the X2 comes out you could literally tailor make your X1 into the X2. As touch flo has been ported i would of guessed the X2 would be the same, with whatever new feats would be added??
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Im really starting to consider the X1, but i want to know if the X2 (or whatever it will be called) has plenty of new parts in the interface will this be able to be ported to the X1, so that in a sense when the X2 comes out you could literally tailor make your X1 into the X2. As touch flo has been ported i would of guessed the X2 would be the same, with whatever new feats would be added??
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TC,
Have you seen and felt the X1 in person and played with it for more than 15 minutes? The X1 looks much smaller in person, just be sure t oknow what you're getting yourself into. Also, there might be newer HTC devices coming with more powerful processors later this year. It might be worth waiting.
Just give it a thought. Whatever it is, just be sure to make sure you've seen the X1 in person before buying it.
Cheers.
I would say wait for an xperia like device with snapdragon cpu or tegra or cortexA8
oh and if you would take xperia. take also an insurance because this phone has alot of weird issues that appear after 2-6 months.. like cracks or a phone that goes off when sliding out.
Make the X1 into X2? It seems almost impossible, not with cellphones.
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I would say wait for an xperia like device with snapdragon cpu or tegra or cortexA8
oh and if you would take xperia. take also an insurance because this phone has alot of weird issues that appear after 2-6 months.. like cracks or a phone that goes off when sliding out.
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Whats Snapdragon and tegra and cortex, what does this do??
Wouldnt the warranty cover the cracks, for a phone this expensive i wouldnt expect any cracks.
I have an X1i with no cracks or physical issues. I purchased mine in November, shortly after it hit the market (I had to return my first one becasue the FM radio didn't work).
It will most likely be possible to upgrade X1 to WM6.5 when it comes out. Of course, you can upgrade it to the WM6.5 beta right now if you'd like, but of course it isn't 100% complete or bug-free yet. I don't think any phone is obsolence-proof though. Enjoy the X1 now, since who knows when the X2 will actually hit the market? They're both WM based phones, so the software will be compatible.
The price on unlocked an X1i continues to fall, with the cheapest I've seen lately at $449 US. That's also a consideration.
First off, I guess its obvious a lot of the users who browse this board would recommend the X1. My hope is that I can get some honest opinions on whether or not you guys would still invest in a X1 if you didn't have it currently.
I'm in Canada and I'm looking for a phone from my local retailer (in this case Rogers). Since I'm not just buying any unlocked phone, I don't have that many options. Its the X1, HTC Diamond of iPhone. iPhone's functions are great but I just dislike the look very much. The X1 is looking good in both appearance and cost for me.
I'm also a bit intimidated about all the customization for the X1. It's great that there are so many options but I don't know where to start. If someone can point me off in the right direction (in terms of what to install, what are must have ROMs / apps) that would be great. Especially all this WM6.1/6.5/6.5.1 I hear buzzing around.
Any help would be great appreciated.
the x1 is cool and all but its 1 year old now. You can find better phones out there. Are you interested in the updated x2? its the same just bigger screen and an accelerometer. Are you going to be at&t only? If not you should check out the Droid phone for verizon
if you can get it really cheap then go for it or get the tp2 for the bigger screen. both are pretty much one year old tech but will hold their own with the new current phones being offered.
I'm from the igloos up North so the Canadian providers are mainly Rogers and Telus and I'm with Rogers.
Seems to me that we usually get the shortest end of the stick; by the time I can pick a phone up from my local store it seems to be outdated and at the moment it seems to be my only choice. This is my first smart phone so I'm finally getting some data and I don't want to spend a whole lot.
Regardless, the X2 does look pretty awesome and I'm definitely interested. However, I don't know when or if Rogers will offer it. Is there any conformation on information like so? I think the X2 was released in Europe a few weeks ago if my research proves correct.
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First off, I guess its obvious a lot of the users who browse this board would recommend the X1. My hope is that I can get some honest opinions on whether or not you guys would still invest in a X1 if you didn't have it currently.
I'm in Canada and I'm looking for a phone from my local retailer (in this case Rogers). Since I'm not just buying any unlocked phone, I don't have that many options. Its the X1, HTC Diamond of iPhone. iPhone's functions are great but I just dislike the look very much. The X1 is looking good in both appearance and cost for me.
I'm also a bit intimidated about all the customization for the X1. It's great that there are so many options but I don't know where to start. If someone can point me off in the right direction (in terms of what to install, what are must have ROMs / apps) that would be great. Especially all this WM6.1/6.5/6.5.1 I hear buzzing around.
Any help would be great appreciated.
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I love my X1, but it has old software by default. If you are into ROM flashing that isn't a problem, but if you aren't, you'll likely be happier with a Touch Pro 2.
How much are they selling it for? If it is at the same price of the iPhone 3GS, then get the iPhone, sell it as new on ebay and have enough money to buy 2 X1s.
before You'll get one read sticky about cracking. this device have a serious issue with plastic elements of housing cracking and chipping without any real reason. don't let any fool convince You, that it's a problem of only some units. most units are/will be affected. x2 however might be better, as it was built by foxconn, rather than htc.
if you can get new one less than 300$ then go for it
hi im new to all smartphones in general (live in poland and we have third world providers here )
got dilema since my contract is soon to be expired and got proposals for cheap but long contract extension (kinda normal here) phones.
Ill write what i can get :
-omnia
-xperia x1
-htc touch dual
-htc magic
-htc diamond
here is my dilema - x1 or magic
x1 comes with 4 gig sd (magic with nothing)
x1 is kinda older but when i look at hardware of lets say x2 its almost identical hence i hope for updates for x1
for magic speaks android (but new droid phones will have 1gig procesors wich worries me about its updates)
please speak from expirience.
Ill not use internet heavely (costs in orange network are radiculous) more like for IM's besides i can download apps via pc - ill be into flashing roms and stuff since i love to customize my phones.
so please be honest and no i cant afford any other phone since it would mean around 500$ and im poor bastard
cheers
If those are your options the xperia is by far the best! Okay the Omnia might not be a bad option, but I wouldn't consider the rest as in the same category.
EDIT: Magic would actually be a better choice in my opinion than Omnia, but I am still more favorable to WinMo... For now. If you don't have an affinity to Windows Mobile then the Magic might be a good choice. I prefer X1 for high res screen too. Makes for awesome Web browsing.
based on the choices you have, the x1 seems to be the better option. The new roms here make the x1 a much much better phone than out of the box so dont worry about it's initial performance once you get it. I mean after flashing a good rom, it's like having a new fone again...
Also, the x1 seems to be the only one with the keyboard amongst your other choices and for me that's a huge advantage!! I guess i'm just not made for full touch screen usage, i make too many errors typing...the next advantage would be the wvga resolution, awesome for watching movies (of course those formatted for wvga, there's a tool here to format)...
I just got my X1 last week, unlocked for $300 AUD, and after flashing a few roms its easy to find a happy place. I think its a pretty sweet device, and it can still fight it out with the newer phones.
Of the rest I've had a go at the Omnia, magic and also a touch HD, although the touch HD is pretty much the same except with no keyboard etc. I don't really like the Omnia's screen, so I would go for the Magic, the cloud concept seems pretty appealing, and its pretty slick.
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ok so here is essential question :
Do i NEED to unlock x1 to be able to flash it etc?
Coz im long time orange user and dont plant to change it any time soon so its not nessesary for me.
as for android it has an app that blocks gprs and stuff is there simmilar thing for x1?
as for all these choices i only considered magic (for android) and experia for overall keyboard and screen that makes me horny also the camera soft on SE is allways better.
Tbh its like rollercoaster lol 1 day i want x1 more next day want magic lol
besides 1 more important thing is for it to be able to withstand 3 year contract
No you don't need to unlock it from a network to flash it, as far as I know.
I actually think, IMO, Magic has the better still camera, but I've never tried them both in same conditions. Video on X1 is much better though, even more so if you get a X1i. Also camera without a dedicated button (the Magic is missing one) can be a bit irritating.
As for apps, I think you can be covered for anything.
X1 is getting old, so 3 years might be a stretch, how much would you pay for the phone through a plan? Might be better to just buy it outright?
Also, X1 has the 3.5mm jack, and the usb port is in much better position for typing. I think (correct me if I'm wrong) the Magic has a non-mini-b port, and I have loads of those laying around, so more convenient
well you see the thing is i would get it for a 1pln lol (about 1/3 of a usd ) just becose im long withthem and its a long plan. i have no cash at all
with magic it would be the same.
so You see my point its the first time in history lol when they allow me to have PDA like phone and i dont want to get stuck on something that will be tottal crap in 1 year
FYI, the Sony XPeria X1 is only $99 from Rogers on a 3 year term. This is a fantastic price, since it was $299 on a 3 year term last week. I'm thinking of getting the X1 now, especially since I've heard that the Motorola Droid won't be coming to Rogers.
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well you see the thing is i would get it for a 1pln lol (about 1/3 of a usd ) just becose im long withthem and its a long plan. i have no cash at all
with magic it would be the same.
so You see my point its the first time in history lol when they allow me to have PDA like phone and i dont want to get stuck on something that will be tottal crap in 1 year
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The X1 is a much higher end looking device, and will at least look good for quite a long time . The Magic on the other hand already looks old. OS wise, Android is ahead of MS in terms of GUI.
With all that being said, if you have a lot of time on your hands to tinke you'll like the X1, it is like a mini computer. The magic imo has less upgrade-ability due to its low ROM size. Eitherway, you'll likely be happy as this is your first smartphone and you have nothing to compare it too.
Lots of good info in this thread. I've almost exclusively used Symbian/S60/UIQ up until this point and have been thinking of getting a nice and relatively cheap WinMo device to get me up to speed in the WinMo world and help me tide over until the X10 hits the scene in 2 months.
There are a couple of <6 month old X1s available around where I live for a shade over US$200. Do you think that's the correct price to pay? Frankly, I'm surprised at the amount of depreciation over the past 12 months. Other phones that used to cost about $800 (TouchHD etc) have held on to their value while the X1's has just plummeted.
Anyways, the X1s that I played with were in pristine condition but I'm concerned about the cracks problem. What do you reckon would be a good approximation for a baseline production date from where the cracks problem was resolved? I tried searching through the sticky thread on the problem but couldn't really find anything specific since most people haven't posted the production dates of their X1s.
Just to tell you, the X10 is an android phone
I'd forget the X1... sure you might get an 09 batch with no case cracking issues but another common problem is that the keyboard gets sticky and soon your space bar becomes very unresponsive.
Better of getting a full touch screen phone.
X1 for me was one big bad purchase and yes I do flash the latest ROMS.