So I was attempting to replace the LCD on my Kaiser after it cracked in the summer. Was able to take apart the screws no problem until I got to the screw which held down the PCB for the Jog Wheel. I managed to round off that screw head!
I left it for about 6 months thinking what to do with it, then in a bout of madness, prized the whole PCB off the board.
Does anybody know who sell HTC Tytn II parts? I need the mini PCB that broke.
Please see the 2 images below.
Any help is much greatly appreciated.
sorry ronzinio, cant help you, but i am at the same stage with the rounded screw
i have a whole new case waiting to fit after my phone slid along the pavement and scratched the front cover. i have 2 choices now, drill the head of the screw off, but then i would have to get the screw stub out and replace it, or break the casing from around the thumbwheel until i can remove the assembley and then hopefully get the two pieces apart.
any other suggestions anyone????????
If the screw head was stripped, i would suggest using a screw thats a size bigger, (sometimes even a flat head) and just make sure its firmly pressed against the screw when you attempt to unscrew it.
I dont know about small screws as the ones in phones, but i've had to use extractor sets to get out stripped engine bolts. Go to your local electronics repair shop and seek some advice there.
as for ronzinio, check out cnn.cn, i can't remember if they had the jog wheel or not but they have some components of htc devices (my internet is running like crap and its taking the site forever to load)
Good luck to both of you guys.
woo hoo, new case is on now, mmmmmm shiney.
decided to drill the top off the jog wheel board screw, only a few seconds. after that took whole phone apart and replaced back and front. didnt bother about the jog wheel board screw. it is held by a rubber plate and sandwiched in by the case. no movement now but did intend to put a dab of superglue on if it moves at all. few worrying moments snapping case back together but alls well now. thanks to folks on this forum for pointers to htc manual and russian site for dismantling pics. one happy bunny here
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I'm replacing the lcd and i got the case open fine with my torx and all that. Now I come to the part where I need a tiny philips head screwdriver.
I can't find anything smaller than 1/16" philips head anywhere! I can't believe no one is talking about this!
Eyeglass repair kits only have flat heads. It's like 1/32" or something like that, so its small enough, but it won't unscrew it.
And to top it off, in my frustration I've started to strip the screw.
Should I call lenscrafters tomorrow? Seriously, where can I get a screwdriver this small. Home Depot doesn't have it.
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I'm replacing the lcd and i got the case open fine with my torx and all that. Now I come to the part where I need a tiny philips head screwdriver.
I can't find anything smaller than 1/16" philips head anywhere! I can't believe no one is talking about this!
Eyeglass repair kits only have flat heads. It's like 1/32" or something like that, so its small enough, but it won't unscrew it.
And to top it off, in my frustration I've started to strip the screw.
Should I call lenscrafters tomorrow? Seriously, where can I get a screwdriver this small. Home Depot doesn't have it.
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Are you *sure* it's Philips? MOST electronics like this are all Torx. There are many sizes of Torx, some of them quite tiny.
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I'm replacing the lcd and i got the case open fine with my torx and all that. Now I come to the part where I need a tiny philips head screwdriver.
Should I call lenscrafters tomorrow? Seriously, where can I get a screwdriver this small. Home Depot doesn't have it.
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Try here:
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=howTo&p=BuyGuide/ScrDvrBG.html
Best of Luck!
trb
When I helped a friend take one apart he used the smalled flat head and filed down the sides to make it thinner. Stupid idea though.
ChumleyEX said:
When I helped a friend take one apart he used the smalled flat head and filed down the sides to make it thinner. Stupid idea though.
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Who would of thought?
Hey it worked though.
i just changed my screen 2 weeks ago and i only needed the torx wrenches. Just be careful when u have to pry the screen housing apart i had used a flat head screw driver for that and i bent up a bunch of the pieces that snap together. I ended up not being able to get them to snap together so in frustration i used the screw driver to grind off the plastic pieces. lucky for me every thing works fine.
Well the one I took apart most certainly needed a phyllips head.. very very small.
I changed my screen by unscrewing the torx screws on the backside around the sim card area, then I pried apart the screen housing, you can't take the entire screen housing apart cause both sides are connect but theres enough room where I could unplug and slide out the old screen and put in the new one.
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Are you *sure* it's Philips? MOST electronics like this are all Torx. There are many sizes of Torx, some of them quite tiny.
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I'm not always the brightest but I definitely need a philips head. I already used the torx to get the plastic face off.
I'm glad I was told to get a torx beforehand by all the documentation, but to mention the torx and not the micro sized screwdriver is silly. I can go down to the store and get a torx, but where do I get a goddamn screwdriver? Do I have to rob a jewelery store to steal their miniature toolset?
Whoever on ebay I bought this lcd off of was cool enough to include the torx. I would have been much better off with a screwdriver that fits.
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When I helped a friend take one apart he used the smalled flat head and filed down the sides to make it thinner. Stupid idea though.
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I tried my 1/32" flat head already, and it will fit into the slot, but it wont turn. I've stripped it enough already.
What type of flat head was it? Was it the size used for eyeglass repair? Or was it bigger? I'm using the one for eyeglass repair.
bumping up for more info on who has these magical screwdrivers. I'd rather not have to order online cause I'd like to just repair my phone already.
I got a philips head from Sunglass Hut. Cost $10 and was a part of a cleaning kit.
I'll try to update and let you know if it works for other people that might have the same problem in the future. I still can't believe it wasn't better documented that we would need a screw driver that looks like its meant to repair micro machine cars.
yeah it works. hopefully i won't be in for anymore surprises.
hey everyone,
Recently I broke my tilt screen and was forced to purchase a replacement screen along with the necessary TORX screwdrivers and other tools to take apart the phone. After reading through this forum I have decided that using the 4 screw method would be a lot easier than taking apart the entire phone. I was wondering if there was anywhere on this site that demonstrates in detail how to successfull use this method. I have looked around but cant seem to find anything. Any help would be appreciated before I take apart my phone.
Thanks,
Austin
I've taken mine apart a few times, once to replace the screen as you're about to do. that being said, if there is a way to disassemble the screen with just 4 screws it wasn't apparent when I did mine, as there are ribbon cables etc. that need to be disconnected. It's actually not that hard to take the thing apart, I would go thru the whole process if I were you.
i did the four screw method.
Take the battery out.
Just take off the four screws on the left and right side of the back of the slide out screen.
Then using something that you can slide under the plastic housing on the edges around the back and pry it up and over the plastic pieces that snap the casing together. Try not to use a screw driver to pry it up, I used one and I bent the little plastic pieces and things wouldn't snap back together right until I got fed up and ground the bent pieces off.
Now the casing never comes completely off but it can be pulled apart enough to see where the lcd screen connects to the board. Just pop this ribbon cable off and slide the broken screen out and slide the new screen in connect it back to the board.
Snap the case back together and put the screws back in and your done.
Use a plastic diassembly tool and you wont bend anything. Without even trying, took me 10min total and I didnt even have guidance. Just take it easy and with the right tools, no force is needed. Just patience hardest think is trying to push in the ribbons with so little space.
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Use a plastic diassembly tool and you wont bend anything. Without even trying, took me 10min total and I didnt even have guidance. Just take it easy and with the right tools, no force is needed. Just patience hardest think is trying to push in the ribbons with so little space.
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Just took mine apart t he other day to clean arround the screen! I would advise doing the whole thing. Take your time and always keep track of what screws go where! Oh, and use a magnet to stick your screws to! If you bump the table and one goes flying, you will never find it! Take your time and keep track of where everything goes and you will be fine! Have fun!
I need to replace the front housing / front faceplate on my tilt. I have read the service manual and watched some videos on taking apart the tilt and have read the wiki etc. My question is do I really need to disassemble the whole unit to just replace the front faceplate? It looks like I may just need to remove 4 screws on the rear of the faceplate. So can I remove the faceplate by just removing those screws or do I need to dissasemble the whole phone?
thanks!
taz
oh and I searched tis forum too, but to no avail. I dont want to take apart the whole unit if it isnt necessary.
Yes you can.
Refer to manual attached.
Info is in this forum so search again if you need more info.
freakin awesome. I had searched a ton for something like this and did not find anything, maybe because I was using the terms front housing and faceplate in my searches - I just didn't know what else it would be called. Thank you SO much, this will save me a huge hassle!
taz
Instructions will work - but you have to be pretty carefuly not to damage the rest of the unit and overflex the hinges. Potential for having the top and bottom section gap large than you would like.
Did the ENTIRE housing yesterday - wasn't that bad - just have to keep track of the screws and not forget anything. Have to follow the directions carefully esp when removing the keyboard from the housing - the plastic stick on piece really has to be removed. Followed the official HTC manual from Mike Channon and the only thing I didn't do was completely take apart the SIM to separate the slider. In hindsight should have done that to tighten the hinges a bit so the tilt mechanism is a little more firm. Held my breath when I pressed the power button but it powered up and it worked perfectly all day.
thanks for the tips stim!
I just got done replacing the front cover and everything fit back together ok, one spot on one of the sides has a very slight gap now where the new cover and the rest of the phone don't 100% touch but it is barely noticeable and you would probly only notice it if you were looking for it.
One thing that is missing from those instructions, is that there is one screw that you have to remove after unplugging the 2 ribbon cables, this screw is a B*tch to remove and even harder to put back. It was such a pain to put back that I determined it wasnt necessary and left it out. If you're looking at the front of the phone, this tiny screw is located on the upper right corner.
so I'm hoping that the gap will eventually close more on on that one problem area but I'm not too concerned with it.
thanks again for the instructions Mister B
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So last week I cracked the glass on my poor Nexus. It took a horrible drop. Well I can't afford another Nexus and I can imagine having any other phone so I figured I'd repair this one. Read up alot on it and watched a video on Youtube. Ordered all the parts I needed I tackled it today.
Well I decided to do a How-To for any other Nexus owner with broken screens.
New digitizer - $40
Torx screwdriver -$5
Philips screwdriver -$5
Plastic tools - Free
Total - $50
Sure beats the $125 some online sites charge.
I would like to thank ifixit and slickromeo.
1. Gather all your tools and replacement glass (known as a digitizer).
Note: Needed tools are a Philips #00, a Torx T4, and a plastic pry tool (Mine was included with the new screen)
2. Set up a clean comfortable area to work in. You may be here for awhile and you're going to want to reduce the amount of dust that could potentially get on the new glass.
Note: I used a folded over microfiber towel to keep the area clean and also add some padding to the hard counter top to prevent even more damage while working with the phone.
3. Power phone off and remove battery cover, battery, SIM card, and Micro SD card. Set aside in a safe place.
4.Our first obstacle is going to be the antennae cover at the bottom of the phone. There are three plastic clips holding it in place (Circled in red). Use a combination of the pry tool, a guitar pick, butter knife, and any other instrument you need to shove in there. It is a pain in the ass... the video I watched online made it seem like it was going to be alot harder than it was, but if you work from left to right, or right to left, and get the outside one unclipped the other two come off pretty easy. Once you get it off set it aside with the battery cover and other things.
Note: Be careful not to break these tiny, fragile clips as they are the only things holding this cover in place.
5. Scream profanities and wipe the sweat off your brow from the previous step. I know it was frustrating and nerve racking trying not to break your precious Nexus.
6. Ok good job now to start the real deconstruction. I'm going to start with the battery tray and then move down to the antennae. There are three screws holding the tray down, but before we start on those there is this tiny ridiculous little "VOID" sticker covering up one of them. I wasn't able to remove it intake, partly because I don't really care about my warranty, but I'm sure with alot of patience and tweezers one could take it off intake and put it back. But screw that just get it off to get to the screw underneath.
7. Now two of these screws is a Torx and the third is a Philips (All in green). Remove them and put them somewhere very safe.
Note: I have four plastic cups set up to place my screws into. These are going into the first one.
8.Next you need to remove the battery tray. There are seven tabs (yellow circles) around it that you need to release using your plastic pry tool. Once those are released gently pull away form the bottom of the phone to remove the tray. Set the tray aside.
9. Now for the antennae cover. There are two more screws to remove, a Torx and a Philips (Orange circles). These screws are going in the second bowl. After the screws are out, gently lift up on the bottom of that cover and it should remove easily. Be very careful not to damage the circuit board during removal.
10. Next to come out is the logic board. there are two more very tiny screws to remove (White circles). Into the third bowl with those. Next you need to disconnect three connections (purple circles). Then carefully go around the perimeter of it with your pry tool and VERY CAREFULLY remove all the little tabs holding it in place. Then simply push up form the bottom of the logic board and slide it out. Set it somewhere very safe.
11. Now onto the actual case of the Nexus. Remove the six Philips screws, 1 at the top and 5 at the bottom . Again there are a series of little clips, five of em, around the perimeter that need to be undone and then the case very easily separates from the screen. Set the case aside.
12. Very simply pry the LCD screen away form the glass digitizer. There it is... the broken glass.
13. Now take your pry tool and from the back of the glass (not the side you would touch if you were using the phone) wedge it between the frame and the glass to separate to adhesive. Once the pry tool is in you can just slide it around the edge of the glass to separate the whole thing. TA-DA your broken glass is forever gone.
Note: The glass is broken and very sharp. Take extreme caution not to cut yourself.
14. Now we just have to put the whole thing back together. Start with the new glass/digitizer. Peel off the plastic protector to expose the adhesive and very carefully put it in place.
15. Wrap the connector that is part of the digitizer around and secure it in place with its adhesive.
16. Take the whole screen assembly and slide it back into the case. Push to secure the clips then replace the six screws that you removed.
17. Slide the logic board carefully back into place. You may have to hold down/more out of the way a few of the connectors. Take it a little at a time and see where it is getting caught up. You got this far don't lose your patience.
18. Snap the back antennae cover back in and replace its screws.
19. Slide the battery tray into place and replace its screws.
20. Snap the gray antennae cover back on.
21. Replace Micro SD card, battery, and battery cover.
22. Enjoy the beauty of your Nexus without a broken screen.
23. Place Nexus in Otterbox Defender case so this never happens again.
I have pictures that document each step but need to be approved by a moderator before it lets me post em... sorry guys
Hey, awesome job on fixing your screen. I would love to see them, my Nexus just went through the same thing 30 min ago. I had it on my lap, and upon stepping out of the car, SMACK, is all I heard. It landed face down and this is the aftermath. It's much worse than it looks in the picture.
Man, that sucks. I know that feeling.
I'll try to put the pictures up to help you out. Or at least a link to my photobucket.
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thanks! I just cracked mine yesterday after the phone fell out of my pocket onto a concrete floor. Ouch. I'm giving this a whirl.
Nice, I'll keep this in mind for the day I accidentally break my n1.
I just wish we could somehow jury-rig the Incredible digitizer to our phones =/
I just recently converted to the n1, bought the phone for cheap off craigslists, but notice burn in on the screen, will changing the digitizier also fix the burn in?
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this write up. I just dropped my phone and smashed the screen on concrete 30 mins ago. All is working but the glass is cracked. I've ordered a new Digitizer/Glass from ebay for £30, I just hope it comes by tomorrow.
you can post picture after 5 posts so it should be good now you have 8 posts
I've just completed the work of replacing the broken glass.
I used your guide throughout, it's a shame you haven't been able to post the pictures as it definitely would have helped. I managed to google some dismantling pictures to help with your talk through as it was hard going some times.
Many thanks again.
Another useful tip: run an air purifier aimed at your work station to minimize the risk of getting dust in the glass.
blueboymj: Any chance you can edit your original post and add your pictures so others can use them? I searched quite a lot for a specific procedure to change the digitizer on my poor N1; This was the best, most accurate guide I found. I've done digitizers on a few iPhones (sorry for the profanity) using the ifixit guides, but alas, the ifixit guides were better for them than they are for the N1.
On a side note: The end cap that gives people so much trouble fell off of my N1 in the initial drop. I pushed it back on, and continued using the phone even though the glass was shattered. Removing it the first time was not so hard, I think it was not back on as well as it should have been. Removing it the second time (another story) was much harder. There are two little plastic "bars" on the end cap (step 4 above) that fit into small grooves on the "antenna cover". (step 7) I think the trick may be to possibly pinch the edges of the end cap, while sliding it toward the bottom of the phone. I looked at it after it was open, to see why it was so hard to remove, and realized I had been inadvertently helping it hold itself closed while trying to pry it open. Maybe one of the videos addresses this; I did not watch them.
Thank you to the OP and the responders for this post!
So where exactly did u order the new digitizier and parts from?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
This thread should be added to the N1 wiki. Thanks for the instructions.
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I just recently converted to the n1, bought the phone for cheap off craigslists, but notice burn in on the screen, will changing the digitizier also fix the burn in?
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Burn in? Like shadowing on the LCD? Nope.
Thats the LCD, and is completely different than the digitizer. The digitizer is just a clear plastic/glass layer that goes OVER the lcd to detect touch.
I had the digitizer and a new case and was going to have a local phone store replace this for me. However, they just gave me some BS story about how you cannot replace the digitizer without also replacing the LCD screen, which I did not provide.
So I've been without a phone (since they have it) for no reason and have to drive out of my way to retrieve it.
Hey crappy phone store, if you're too scared to do the job just say so, don't try to make up a bunch of manure and say it can't be done.
Anyway, I just ordered the required tools that I don't have and am going to give this a whirl.
OP, if you can't post your pics, can you email them to me?
does it fix the multitouch problem?
im currentl;y installing the unbrickable mod for captivate but, i encountered one stripped screw :'c. how do i remove it? are there any other ways to open the case?
I would PM adam, since he is the one that made the mod.
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im currentl;y installing the unbrickable mod for captivate but, i encountered one stripped screw :'c. how do i remove it? are there any other ways to open the case?
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If the head is stripped:
I had this when working on a car once and I used a tap and die set. Basically a piece drills a hole into the center of the screw leaving grooves on the wall of the hole. Then a piece screws into that hole that gave traction when turning it to pull the screw out. I'm sure your screw is very small so I'm not sure if that's a legitimate solution.
On smaller screws around the house I would take a dremel or other tool and make a small cut across the head of the screw turning it into a flathead. Then use a flathead screwdriver, apply a lot of downward force, and very slowly turn and unscrew it. However, also risky as you don't want to crack your board.
The only other thing I can think of is to flatten two opposing sides of the head of the screw so that you can use a wrench to turn it out.
I've also read that using a rubber band between the screwdriver and stripped screw head can give you traction.
nothing works man. should i just break the back of the housing and replace it and the screw?
If the screw absolutely won't budge, you could see if you can find a drill bit small enough to ream out the shaft of the screw, then just basically drill through the screw. That would keep you from having to break the board.