Hello, I was doing some thinking after using Android on the kaiser. What about having the backlight fade out while not in use and fade in when touched, much like Android or any of the newer HTC's?
If it worked in Android already then it should be somewhat easy to do in WM if it can be controlled.
Basically the backlight would dim from the user set amount to something close to being totally off, but not actually off. then when used it would quickly and smoothly fade back to the users setting.
Though i'm not a developer (skinner really) anyone want to try to do it? And anyone interested in something like this?
I think this would be great for the Kaiser and would welcome this feature...
Yes please fix this stupid backlight issue on our Kaiser. I would like to see the above fix worked out.
I think this would be a excellent addition to the tilt!
Anyone know if there is a method to accomplish this?
i like the sound of it
Me too! If it can happen in anroid, I am sure it can happen in WM as well! Maybe some software guru can help us out...
ai6908 said:
Me too! If it can happen in anroid, I am sure it can happen in WM as well! Maybe some software guru can help us out...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe that those newer models have additional components that make this happen. (PROXIMITY SENSOR I THINK). and since we dont have it, the only possible way would be to have the phone dim really low, but still be active(not standby), and your phone would basically never be allowed to go into standby(battery killer).
thats what i think thou, nothing official.
thats weird,i watched my tilt and it dimmed like my g1 did ,just not as dark,and if i wait longer it will shut off the screen ,like the g1.but when the screen shuts off on the g1 the phone gets locked and you have to press a button then menu to unlock it or slide it open,on the tilt i just press the power button and the screen comes on or sliding it open.
Related
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
prabh said:
try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've done it already. I've played with every setting known by me.
Still doesnt work. I just flashed to 6.0. And again - there is no such issue.
Thanks for suggestion!
woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
Infuruno said:
woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Infuruno for your suggestion. I think you have a good point in that disortion but there is one big difference in our problem, and I don't know why.
Its the WM version. Now I'm runnig 6.0 without any problem. Even if I want to do this - it never occurs. And I mean never!. I don't know what's wrong here
Anyway I'll soon try to buy the touch screen for Kaiser and change it.
Cheers,
Chris
6.0 seemed to have sensitivity set on normal by default while the 6.1 by default the sensitivity is set of high (> normal) at least looking at the official t-mobile 6.0 and every other 6.1 rom i've tested, and the touch screen thing is just a theory i came up while well literally as i posted that message just started putting things i've seen together maybe if someone who didn't have the problem could see if they got distortion before you buy a new touch screen.
I just got my Tilt (I came from the Sprint Touch) and I've noticed the same thing. I never used a 6.0 ROM, the guy I bought it from already had a 6.1 ROM on it and I flashed it to HyperDragon's PRO III ROM when I got it.
I was used to my Sprint Touch and it had a 6.1 ROM on it as well and didn't have a problem. It is very annoying if I try to use an onscreen keyboard for those times that I don't want to pull out the other one.
Done more tests.
Today I've installed new HyperDragon III Pro (great ROM ) and I still got that issue. After that - flashed Dutty's V4 RTM (6.0) - and you know what? It works just perfect.
I don't know wtf is wrong with that.
What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
Infuruno said:
What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, nothing at all.
I've tried that every time. That doesn't work on that
Thanks!
This just sucks ass.... I really don't know what to do. I just flashed HD III Pro, Its great ROM, and I cannot use it cause of this ****ing screen thing.
Flashed back to random 6.0 --- no problems. Damnit!
Same problem for me, very hard to make a call
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
mindfrost82 said:
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've done really many tries with various options and various configurations before I posted the thread. Nothing - absolutely nothing seems to help.
kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
zsilak said:
I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder then where is the problem? Maybe its a problem with some models of Kaiser?
I'm surprised there's not more people with this problem. Are you guys using an AT&T branded Tilt or HTC-branded, or other?
There's gotta be something in common with all of us.
What Hard-SPL version are you guys using that have the problem?
i have same problem
someday i flashed a new rom and i cant manage how to resolve this. i have that even on wm 6.0 roms. im setting up the sensitivity and it helps just locally, not fully at all. tried high sensitive on my friends kaiser and there is nothing worng with that.
i have tried many spls, but none of them seems to work
can anyone help with that?
i dont want to change my screen
ive tried many systems and spsl before, but never noticed this action.
please, somebody help with that.
I have an old Palm Tugsten T3 that started doing that, the way I fixed it was I went to the screen alignment page and clicked near the top of the bulls eye insted of the center of it, fixed it right up. try that and let me know how that works.
Hello
wanted to get everyone's opinion to whats the best lock app for our phones. i have tried several and i have problems with a lot of them.
i really like phone buddy, but i find it uses too much memory and power.
pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked and i think i had a memory problem as well.
s2u2 is what i have used before and i do like it. but i had a problem with the volume on calls.
not sure if its something else im running.. im running the diamond2 g sensor and that may be it. or something else... not sure
help and suggesting would be great. i would like to find something i can use on my phone.
thanks
Mayonesa said:
pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked and i think i had a memory problem as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pocketshield. best i've found, no impact on battery life and answering the phone is great. download the latest (they've been updating it alot) and turn off the shake wake up (gestures), light wakeup, center button, and stylus (so the only thing is slide down). i haven't had it wake up unexpectedly with those settings.
i tried s2u2 along time ago, but have heard from multiple sources that it negatively influenced battery life. anyone know if this is still true?
i liked pocketshield a lot but like i said, i turned the phone off so it would lock, as soon as i turned the phone on it would unlock without me fliping it or anything else.
the answer thing is nice but i like the slide to answer i already have. if it didnt disable that when i used the pocketshield one i would use it.
like i said, im not sure if something else if causing my issues.... i think i may uninstall the dimond2 g sensor.
still cant find any lock app that will work well.... sensorlock and glocker dont work at all. and pocketshield works for a short time but stops. not sure if its cause you have to pay for it. i would pay for it if it worked for a while with no problems. dont wanna pay for it and have the same problems.
any ideas?
S2U2
try using S2U2 fully configurable and if done right does not use up battery.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
I use S2U2. Doesn't affect my battery life
using S2U2 with tPro skin... nice
jcylcruzin said:
try using S2U2 fully configurable and if done right does not use up battery.
http://www.ac-s2.com/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S2U2 is my favorite.
On a fast ROM (Like most of the ROM's on our forums), the program runs smoothly and nice.
I also like being able to pick pictures of my dog, or my bike, for the screens.
But my best practice for locking the phone is simply lock it out of habit when you put it away. Have "Slide to wake" disabled unless you really use it.
pocketshield for me, i had a few issues in the earlier releases but the newest is absolutely perfect, and pretty much everything is configurable to how i like it! seriously try the new one out and play in the settings to tweak it
Just use the new vertion of S2u2 together with the new skin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467435
Works without problem. and looks good.
Mayonesa said:
...
pocketshield is good too but i had problems with it. the phone wouldnt stay locked...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you have "light unlock" enabled and it is unlocking before you even notice it? (actually its the way it should be if you enable that feature)
has anyone tried throttle lock ? it has a slide to answer when you recieve calls while locked and it unlocks by drawing a pattern on a 3X3 grid of dots . Its a real nice app and has at least 35 different skins and is customizable. (customizing is rather arduous and takes awhile to do when it comes to making a new skin)
can anybody help me find Phone Buddy? i was trying to search it and i am not getting an conclusive results. The only thread that cmae up with anything is this thread....
S2U works just fine on my TP with stock rom, no negative battery impact noticable.
It seems all locking programs seem to have their own 'locked screen' that goes over the today screen. I have customized my today screen to have all the information i need at a glance and don't need another one.
I think Touchlock Pro is the only recent one that does not have this but I have other issues with it. Are there others I have missed?
Sunra said:
It seems all locking programs seem to have their own 'locked screen' that goes over the today screen. I have customized my today screen to have all the information i need at a glance and don't need another one.
I think Touchlock Pro is the only recent one that does not have this but I have other issues with it. Are there others I have missed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using AnswerkeysDisabler which locks the touch screen completely when a call comes in. Answering is only with the hardware keys. It's simple - no home screens, no swinging the phone around in circles to answer or anything Just plain works (as touch pro has those HW keys).
I found it from here somewhere - try it.
I use sensor lock. It's great! You can use phone gestures with the accelerometer to unlock your phone. For example, you can rotate your phone 360ยบ to lock/unlock it.
Here is the app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
hey guys,
im looking for the most efficient program or tweak that will run in the background and do the typical things g-sensors do, like rotate the screen, turn off the screen during a call, or silence calls when turning the phone on its face.
Let me know if yuo guys have any ideas.
Thanks,
Anish88
Isn't it doing it anyway? I'm not using a program and the things u said are still working.
i think Gyrator 2 can help u to rotate screen every where!!
ren4e said:
Isn't it doing it anyway? I'm not using a program and the things u said are still working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wow really? i installed touch incall screen tweak to turn off the screen when the phone is to my ear but the rotation thing does happen and i cant silence a call when i turn it upside down.
FYI touch incall screen tweak is AWESOME.
but if you know how to activate these things without installing apps please let me know. I am using NFSFAN's 6.5.3 rom.
Thanks,
Anish88
yeah they just work, i have it for like 2 months now and im with the latest original rom of htc and works, before that was with energy rom but i dont know if it worked then, because i changed it very fast to have better battery performance. maybe advanced configuration has some options like that?
I would like to know how to do these things too.
anish88 said:
wow really? i installed touch incall screen tweak to turn off the screen when the phone is to my ear but the rotation thing does happen and i cant silence a call when i turn it upside down.
FYI touch incall screen tweak is AWESOME.
but if you know how to activate these things without installing apps please let me know. I am using NFSFAN's 6.5.3 rom.
Thanks,
Anish88
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad you like my Touch Incall Screen Tweak (TICST) - you might want to take a look at ChangeScreen for your rotation needs. I must admit, I thought that mute on face down was standard behaviour? If not, maybe it's specific to the dialer?
Cheers,
Steve.
Hey!
If you guys really really want the MOD, let's do something about it. AND I NEED ALL SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE.
Read Carefully.
I'm not sure if you've heard of PSX emulator or not. The author, zodttd, has started the project because he saw
there was a petition ( Here ) to have me bring PSX, N64, and the VLC media player to the Android platform. With over 1800 signatures I started work on PSX a few days ago.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what I am thinking is, we should do the same thing too!
I have begun a petition. Now all I need is you guys to sign it. It's a really simple process.
Once we have enough signatures, we can show it to mods from other communities.
Petition
Thanks,
Clay
have you sent any emails to app developers or anything like that before you post a petition? I think you may be jumping the ball a little bit here... go ask a few developers first.. Im pretty sure someone might have the time (or knowledge to help you learn how to implement your idea...
doesnt seem like it should be that hard to link the led notification and a button backlight... they have done it with trackballs...
As soon as I get my vibrant I shall start work on this.. Someone will probably get it working before me but I shall give it a shot..
Petition is a nice idea, but no need for it. Im pretty sure once the vibrant (galaxy s) gains more popularity, the programs an mods will start to come.
wow making the button backlight as notifications is actually a really good idea.
Lieu10ant said:
wow making the button backlight as notifications is actually a really good idea.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Second that! Actually seems like a pretty simple mod as well.
MINUS Stl said:
Second that! Actually seems like a pretty simple mod as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thirded. Great idea.
This would be fantastic. Good idea.
can't wait to see progress.. also, is there a charging light? if not can there be a mod to have one of the buttons (i rather see the search icon as a charging LED)
Thinking about getting a Vibrant, and this mod would make the purchase that much easier.
All for it!!!
Make it happen
Im still on the fence if i should buy this phone because im so used to my g1's hardware keyboard and the lack of an led notification is kind of turning me away from this awesome beast. i spent maybe half an hour playing with one today at t-mobile...if this gets done maybe ill get a vibrant and overcome my attachment to hardware keyboards lol.
a cool idea would be to have someone make the backlight for the buttons light up sequentially left to right!
speedysilwady said:
Im still on the fence if i should buy this phone because im so used to my g1's hardware keyboard and the lack of an led notification is kind of turning me away from this awesome beast. i spent maybe half an hour playing with one today at t-mobile...if this gets done maybe ill get a vibrant and overcome my attachment to hardware keyboards lol.
a cool idea would be to have someone make the backlight for the buttons light up sequentially left to right!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even in stock form you will not regret the purchase of this device I love this device
Agreed. This thing is amazing. Came from a G1 and the lack of hw keyboard isn't a big deal for me (and I used the hw kb constantly!). No led notification is odd, but if we can do this button backlight mod....
What about AMOLED?
I don't get it-
Why are we looking for workarounds like lighting the menu buttons when there's a Super AMOLED screen to play with? Since there's no backlight to lose precious mWh's from the battery every time you want to show a light pixel, shouldn't a simple white text/pattern/indicator drawn on the screen with the rest of it black/off work as needed? Make it flash, make it off most of the time like a normal indicator, make sure that notification is bright, perhaps make it customizable, and bingo!
It might even be more efficient than some silly LED somewhere...
gthmcty1 said:
Even in stock form you will not regret the purchase of this device I love this device
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks i think ima go for it!
and whoever mentioned the screen idea, its deff not bad either imo but idk how thatd compare to the backlight idea battery-wise...i mean maybe youre right it might take less battery to flash the screen rather than the menu buttons
iPhace said:
I don't get it-
Why are we looking for workarounds like lighting the menu buttons when there's a Super AMOLED screen to play with? Since there's no backlight to lose precious mWh's from the battery every time you want to show a light pixel, shouldn't a simple white text/pattern/indicator drawn on the screen with the rest of it black/off work as needed? Make it flash, make it off most of the time like a normal indicator, make sure that notification is bright, perhaps make it customizable, and bingo!
It might even be more efficient than some silly LED somewhere...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that doesn't sound bad at all, something like the battery icon that the screen shows when the phone is powered off but is charging. have a notification icon show on the screen and have it blink at certain values
yes sir. i'm all for it as well!
That sounds like a great idea. And different buttons could be set for different notifications. Like say the Menu button could light up if you have a new text, the Home button if you have a new E-mail, and so on.
I used to do a lot of Java coding, but am pretty rusty. Tomorrow I'm going to start looking into implementing any of the ideas mentioned here. Already installed the android sdk, just need to learn how to write android applications
For the life of me I cannot use my N6 no-handed, even for just a moment. The 5-10 seconds I need to hold my phone up between my shoulder and my face to free both hands.......it never fails that I cause an issue with a live phone call. Obviously the larger screen (larger touch-sensitive area) and the screen being on for some reason during the call.......I always either put the phone call on hold, or even put the current call on hold and manage to dial one of my starred contacts. It is driving me up the damn wall. I am not a huge fan of the L phone interface (the starred favorites especially), I much prefer the KK layout.
Anyone else having as hard of a time as me? I'm wondering if the screen being off during the call would cure this. I guess I could manually cut it off when going to no-hands.......but figured it should do it on its own. Anyone care to either give me some suggestions, or even punch me for my ignorance and tell me what I am doing wrong?
Love everything about the phone, and also loving LiquidSmooth.......just hoping the development gets into high gear soon.
The screen is suppose to be off during calls, that's what the proximity sensor is for. Are you sure you are not hitting the power button while in call, i find it to be sensitive??If its not turning itself off when you put it up to your face, flash back to full stock. Still not working, then its probably a hardware issue???
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
holeindalip said:
The screen is suppose to be off during calls, that's what the proximity sensor is for. Are you sure you are not hitting the power button while in call, i find it to be sensitive??If its not turning itself off when you put it up to your face, flash back to full stock. Still not working, then its probably a hardware issue???
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot to reply I had this issue while stock as well. I wasn't looking to 'fix' this issue with a different ROM either, I just like the capabilities and development done in the ROM's themselves. Can't say I didn't hope something would change though.....
I only experience this with my left hand, LOL. Right handed, no issues with the screen turning off.
wilson289 said:
I only experience this with my left hand, LOL. Right handed, no issues with the screen turning off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well that is certainly odd lol.....
Anyone else? Surely I'm not the only one....... :silly: