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This will drive me crazy. I have had the button above the volume mapped to Voice Command ever since I can remember. Now for the Tilt, it is mapped to Push to talk which I will never, ever use and the button mapping does not allow you to reassign it. Does anyone know if this is possible with any of the button manager programs? Do I need to flash the Kaiser ROM for this?
Also, the 8125 had a feature where you held this button down and it would swap the sound over to vibrate. If anyone knows how to get this working on the Kaiser, I highly recommend it. Beats having to pull the phone out of the holster/case to silence it, especially in a meeting.
Search for the answer.... It is here.
tried searching on push to talk. searching on buttons brings back a ton of results, none of which are specific to this particular problem. any suggestions on where to search and for what term or phrase?
Update, I found one... over in the hermes forum. This would be a good addition to the cab list sticky now that more folks are getting the AT&T ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585&highlight=push+to+talk+map
I'll update after I have tried it on the Tilt
PTTFix work fine per the tread reference above but even though it allows you to assign a program to press and hold, there is no program "per se" to enact the vibrate setting. I do see this option on the HTC Home Screen though so maybe it is possible to create a shortcut in the Program Files directory and call it indirectly. I'll try this later when I have some time, but if anyone else gets to it first, please do share. TIA
this will do it for you.
I was never a fan of PTT anyway... Thanks for the CAB Tim. Works like a charm. For those curious, the option to select Vibra switch will be found under Settings > Buttons. Remap Button 6 to Vibra (Switch).
Spoke too soon. The PTTFix cab showed the buttons under the setting window, but after setting them, it still brought up the PTT screen. I though perhaps it needed a soft reset, and after doing so the ability to remap the PTT button disappeared.
isdereks, did you try this on the Tilt or the Kaiser? I am thinking the latter, since the PTTFix.cab shows the PTT button as a second button 5. Perhaps this is part of the problem of why it looks like it allows the setting, but doesn't actually work.
Bummer. I am quite disappointed. On top of all the bloatware, you get a button that launches an app that immediately errors out as I am not a PTT subscriber. HTC and MS should be pissed that AT&T is making the iPhone look like a clear winner. Pretty soon Apple will be running comercials with the big bloated guy for the iPhone too.
Sorry forgot to mention that I did this on the Kaiser.
yeah the new PTTFix did not work on my tilt, but worked great on my 8525. I hope this gets updated for the tilt.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334759
yeah tried all that and the reg settings do not stay after phone is shut down.
Worked for me. You have to read the whole post.
For my own purposes as well, here are the consolidated steps to take. Until someone improves on this, I keep all this stuff in a directory so I can reconfigure my device as necessary. Here goes...
I think the trick is the PTT settings take precedence when the device boots up so delete the PTT registry settings under HKLM/Services/PTT. Delete the whole sub tree, then
From HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Add a new key called "40C6"
Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
Add a new key called "40C7"
Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
(Note, do not enter the quotes, thare are to delimit what belongs in the registry entry)
Go to the Buttons settings and assign a program to the new entries. I di Voice Dial and Vibra (Switch) from the link earlier in the this post.
Do a soft reset which will remove the PTT settings from the buffer and enable your key changes.
Thanks for all the help.
I'd say the only caveat is if you some day want to use the PTT features, it would be a good idea to take an inventory fo what is under the PTT node in the registry.
It worked "GREAT". Thanks and so easy even I could do it
Instead of deleting the "PTT" key, i suggest simply renaming it to "PTTbak". That way you can just rename it back to "PTT" if you ever need to use it.
Thats what i did, and it works fine.
BTW, excellent work everyone. After upgrading to the tilt from the 8525 i lost 2 side buttons (comm manager button and the PTT button)... now i've got at least one back!
Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
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did you delete the ptt key? (or at least rename as was suggested above?)
if you did try using the phone for while after you make the registry changes - run some other programs - then power down
greg
Greg, I renamed it and then nothing would happen. no button map and no PTT action. I am about ready to give up. But I will try your suggestions. Thanks.
NOw I got the PTT action back (the PTT screen pops up) but I cannot get the the button to do anything. I made the hold vibra and the direct push VC. Now nothing happens. Not sure what I did wrong. Not a noob at reg edits and I don't see anything wrong.
Oh well, not that big a deal, but am still open for more suggestions.
i tried renaming the PTT registry key and it didnt work. actually deleting it worked.
REG PTT
After doing the reg posted above the PTT button is free but you will notice after you push it, before the new app assigned to it pops up you will see the ptt screen for a second. What if the phone things you are using the ptt function and not Voice command or Viigo like I am?
Hi,
I've successfully re-mapped the PTT button by following the instructions from this forum. I imagine the same procedure would apply to the small OK button immediately below the jog-wheel, but I don't know where to start. Of course, the button is not present in the Settings/Buttons applet - that would have been too easy.
First, how to disassociate it from its present function (Start Menu/OK)? And once disassociated, what is the button code to enter in the registry?
I tried aebplus, and it sort of works - but the start menu still comes up on the first keypress if invoked in the Today screen.
Any ideas on how to re-map this otherwise useless key?
Thanks,
Mike.
mpd said:
Hi,
I've successfully re-mapped the PTT button by following the instructions from this forum. I imagine the same procedure would apply to the small OK button immediately below the jog-wheel, but I don't know where to start. Of course, the button is not present in the Settings/Buttons applet - that would have been too easy.
First, how to disassociate it from its present function (Start Menu/OK)? And once disassociated, what is the button code to enter in the registry?
I tried aebplus, and it sort of works - but the start menu still comes up on the first keypress if invoked in the Today screen.
Any ideas on how to re-map this otherwise useless key?
Thanks,
Mike.
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yes, i would like to find this out as well because i have PTT assigned to comm manager and voice recorder but now i need one toggle between vibe and ring...would be nice to use this ok button i thing its pretty useless since there is anothe ok button on the front...TIA...
me too!
I also need to change the side "ok" button. Anybody have a solution?
Hello! Care if I do a quick search FOR YOU since you do not want to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274644
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
You sound like a jerk for posting that I did not search when the reply prior to mine was 6 months ago.
Did you even read the thread? None of the links you posted had instructions/advice on how to remap the side "ok" button.
grizzley said:
Hello! Care if I do a quick search FOR YOU since you do not want to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274644
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
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yes i was about to say. non of them have steps or even telling you anything related to how to get it.
all it says is people trying it matter and they failed.
if there was no solutiion you should have just said no solution, it would have saved you time searching all that and also us bashing you
the 4th link does have some good information, lemme just quote from it
Bellfazar said:
The side "ok" button is a tough one because it has multiple functions. In programs, explorer windows, and settings it acts as an OK button but when you're at the today screen it acts as a Start Menu button. I kinda get the feeling we're not going to be able to change this for a while. Not until someone releases a keymapper specifically for the Kaiser.
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strikeIII said:
even with the 8525 nobody has been able to re-map the ok button...it's still the biggest mystery, hehe....but now that they eliminated one button on the Tilt we really do need the ability to remap the ok button now...
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Deathace said:
I have the side OK button remapped in spb pocket plus v4 under the buttons menu in settings and the only thing you have to do is take focus off the start menu then it works as expected.
Russ
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It's really easy with help of AE Button Plus.
You can pretty much map any hardware key on your device with this great app.
I have it setup to be able to copy and paste by using the sliding keyboard and pressing Window Key + C to copy and Window Key + V to paste among other cool shortcuts.
Cheers!
RayanMX
Rayan said:
It's really easy with help of AE Button Plus.
You can pretty much map any hardware key on your device with this great app.
I have it setup to be able to copy and paste by using the sliding keyboard and pressing Window Key + C to copy and Window Key + V to paste among other cool shortcuts.
Cheers!
RayanMX
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Thanks Rayan. I downloaded the AE Button Plus program for my AT&T Tilt, and it is working fantastic for remapping buttons. I was able to remap the side OK button to lock my phone by holding it for a few seconds. I love the way it also lets you leave the button with its default setting for one press, but create other actions for multiple presses.
By the way, the phone locking works fantastic. It allows me to answer calls, but doesn't activate any of the other phone functions until I unlock the phone. That's perfect for carrying the phone in my pocket. Also, incoming notifications don't unlock the phone, so that I won't accidentally turn-on a bunch of applications while the phone is in my pocket. The unlocking action is very simple.
I've also mapped volume up and down to a long press of the soft keys. That alleviates the need to use the stylus to select the volume button. Great.
The AE Button Plus program was what I've needed all along to customize my phone. It would've saved me a lot of time.
One other note, I downloaded the 2.6.3 version of the program, rather than the freeware version, but I haven't gotten any info on the cost. I may be disappointed in the near future if this program automatically deactivates. Do you know if I should expect a disappointment? I would pay for this program, but I'm not sure how much it's worth to me, but I saw no information on the cost. Do you know?
AFAIK there is only one version, if you want the registered version you buy a license and there's a procedure to activate it, otherwise it uses the free version with a couple features disabled and a nagscreen once in a while.
I want to remap the side ok button to calendar and long press to new appointment.
I have Pocket Plus 4 and it gives me the option to do it and it works when i have a program open, but when im on the today screen, it just opens the start menu. Any soluton to this?
You might try posting your question on the Spb forums. Developers over there monitor the threads, and might be able to help.
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/
Try aebutton plus.
Ideas? Wouldnt want to register to another forum for this...
like the post above said, AEButton, or maybe HButton.
Ok, I posted to the spb forums.
Please refrain from posting suggestions you have not tried. AEButton and HButton do not work.
Even if they would work, when I have a program that’s supposed to do this function, the first answer on my opinion shouldn’t be to install more programs to my device.
Just do this via the > Settings > Buttons.
I reprogrammed it to the HTC Action Screen.
AE Button does work, however, much like the Red End-call button there is a small issue. I can map the button for single,double,tripple, and long press, BUT, the button works as follows.
Press button, upon release the start menu opens.
Press button again, then it acts as AEB's 1st press.
Press button, twice, thrice, hold, all work OK
So it's OK but you just have to ignore the first push.
Now this is all on the side OK button, the front OK button is mappable seperately with AEB+
Sane said:
Even if they would work, when I have a program that’s supposed to do this function, the first answer on my opinion shouldn’t be to install more programs to my device.
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Like your Avatar, Bahh Humbug. AnyButton + is easily one of the most useful apps for PPC phones. I have so many functions mapped with it that the phone would be crippled without it, so sometimes suggesting a must have app is helpfull.
obsydian said:
Just do this via the > Settings > Buttons.
I reprogrammed it to the HTC Action Screen.
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the ok button on the side is extremely different from the ok button on the front that you are referring to
Is the side OK button similar to the PTT button? I wonder if the side OK key can be removed from the registry and then renamed so that it would not open the start menu first, before the first, twice, thrice and long AEB push?
unorthodoxx said:
Is the side OK button similar to the PTT button? I wonder if the side OK key can be removed from the registry and then renamed so that it would not open the start menu first, before the first, twice, thrice and long AEB push?
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THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT....
I dont need new apps, i have everything else the way i want. Like my avatar, i'm allmost good to go.
In Pocket Plus 4, first push opens the start menu and second push closes it. Unless i have some window open at today, then it works as i remapped it.
The OK button below scroll wheel on the side of the phone. Can this button be reassigned through the registry?
I was going to try and create that entry but I am not sure of the button number.
Any help?
it think it can, one of the button mapping 3rd party apps that you can but was able to map it to whatever you wanted. I used it for a while but ended up using the button featuer within spb pocketplus4 since it was already installed for other features
Pending what ROM you use you can reassign.
Easiest fix is to search for PTT remap which, if I'm not 100% wrong, will give you a changed button application.
I am using the stock AT&T 6.1 ROM.
I installed S2U2 and wanted to map the side OK button for Volume control.
If I knew what button # it was I could create the registry entry.
I want to try and do it with a third party app.
tyguy said:
Pending what ROM you use you can reassign.
Easiest fix is to search for PTT remap which, if I'm not 100% wrong, will give you a changed button application.
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I believe the question was about the button BELOW the wheel, the PTT button is above the wheel. Also, 6.1 already allows mapping of the PTT button.
I believe the software is Vito ButtonMapper, google that and you will find it.
I was aware that he was talking about the button BELOW the wheel but if I recall right PTT reassign gives a six buttun mapper. If not my apologies.
tyguy said:
I was aware that he was talking about the button BELOW the wheel but if I recall right PTT reassign gives a six buttun mapper. If not my apologies.
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Yes the PTT would be 6 and can be mapped using 3rd party software for wm6 and natively in 6.1.
This issue has been batted around for a while now, and even with the Hermes as well. As far as I know, the ok button is pretty much hardwired. No one ever found a registry key, and no button mapping program recognizes its existence.
Blowfish64 said:
This issue has been batted around for a while now, and even with the Hermes as well. As far as I know, the ok button is pretty much hardwired. No one ever found a registry key, and no button mapping program recognizes its existence.
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Well that sucks, that is the only button I never use and being able to assign it to volume would actually make it useful.
And to the others, yes I am referring to the OK button below the scroll wheel. I know the PTT button (above wheel) is #6 and I already know how to assign that one.
Time to go to WinMo 6.1. I have toggle backlight on short press, close all on long press. Works great at least on a Kaiser with ROMeOS.
Twenty4 said:
The OK button below scroll wheel on the side of the phone. Can this button be reassigned through the registry?
I was going to try and create that entry but I am not sure of the button number.
Any help?
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If you are willing to spend 8 bucks this will do it and a bunch of other stuff.
(or reverse engineer the program and pull that piece out)
Worth the 8 bucks to me.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
im looking if anyone knows of just a small program i can install that acts like the "Close" function of Spb Pocket Plus. i want to be able to hold the ptt button to close the running program...
i've searched and had no luck
If your running a custom rom or anything apart from the ATT rom you can do this without additional software. Just go to "Settings" and "Buttons".
im running att 6.1
i just dont want to have to install pocket plus for one stupid function that it gives me
Quick Menu does this as well
Quick Menu does this as well... i personally like the program a lot cos of its various functions.. one of them is that you can get the OK key to close programs... and it has a small memory footprint... above all, its free... check it out at www.alensw.com ... hope this helps
so i tried quick menu... didnt really like that...
any suggestions?
you know how spb mobile shell has the ability to made a soft reset a program icon? i want that for close program. just to be able to assign it to a hard key...
sstrasser86 said:
so i tried quick menu... didnt really like that...
any suggestions?
you know how spb mobile shell has the ability to made a soft reset a program icon? i want that for close program. just to be able to assign it to a hard key...
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I use AE Buttons Plus and it's small and works great. I have the "close active program" assigned to a long press of the OK button. It even has a task manager you can bring up with a hardware button and kill programs just by using the d-pad.
You can find it here: http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php.
Hbutton
free and simple:
http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
petervbeck said:
free and simple:
http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
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But can you close the active program? There is no "close active program" program in WM to assign a button to. Unless this has that feature built into it (as AE Button Plus does), I know of no way to do it just by pressing a hardware button, which is what the OP requested. Also, you can use AE Button Plus as unregistered for an unlimited time, but it is so cheap, that I decided to buy it.
hbutton - taskmanager
I'm using HTC Taskmanager with 'end programs by tapping X' - with 'OK/Close' Button mapped to my Hardware-OK-Button in Hbutton it works perfect for me....