Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
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rumpleforeskin said:
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
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Maybe you might wanna check if you have the automatic mail checking feature on? Because I noticed that whenever I let my phone automatically look for email quite regularly (i.e. every 5 or 10 mins) it drains more battery then when you set it to check email every 2 hours for instance. Well that's what has helped in my case...hope this helps...
I have looked at my mail settings and my mail checks every 2 hours, i have had it set to 2 hours since i had the device (6 months) but this rapid battery drain has only started occuring in the last 2 weeks.
In that time i have not installed any new software, so am at a loose end as to the cause of the trouble
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
costp said:
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
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thanks for the feedback, i will order a new battery and give it a try, at the least it will prove if the problem is hardware or software related.
today my phone still has 63% battery since i removed it from charge at 11pm last night. The fact that the problem is intermittent is making it very dificult to diagnose.
Today I noticed my wi-fi drains battery as hell, it was lie 60%+ of battery down in less than 40 minutes. In the past it was like 40% max. The PowerGuard's current meter did not show anything alarming. So the problem seems to be hardware.
Already backed up and hard resetted. The phone is under warranty and so is battery; sending it to service to get it fixed.
Or, I missed something and I can fix it?
Hey,
Yeah I'm currently experiencing the same problem.. I tired just about everything from battery fix cab, radios, to roms. I even got the orginal extended battery. The battery worked really well for like 2 weeks and then it started to drain really fast as well.. My cousin have the same phone as me HTC Diamond, and his battery is verry good.. It can last a whole day with heavy usage no problem. Where as my 1340MAH battery would only lask for 14hrs max with heavy usage, and when we switch the battery same stuff happens... His battery on my phone drains quickly and mine last long on his phone...
So I came to the conclusion that it's definitely a hardware issue.
For those without battery problem, how much usage do you get out of a battery and what kind of things do you do with the phone? I'm just trying to gauge how bad my batter is. It will last about 8-9 hours, but that's with hald of that time spent on the internet on either 3g or edge. I've only had the phone for about a week so it's hard for me to compare it to anything else.
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
jfran said:
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
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a good tip to save battery power which is something we all have to do, but i do not think its the cause of my new found rapid battery drain.
The last 6 moths i have been getting around a day to day and a half rom the the phone. now on random occasions ot will get real hot (like the gps/wifi is on or like the cpu is flat out) and the power goes in a few hours.
this is fine if its daytime and catch it but a few times its gone from 100% to 0% overnight and i have woken late for work.
Graffen said:
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
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interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
rumpleforeskin said:
interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
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From you last sentance it does sound like it the 2g/3g switching that is cauing your problems.
i have this issue too.
my phone will drain ~5-7% every hour in standby. and when wifi is on it drains 2% every minute even staying on the home screen and me not doing anything on the phone.
from reading this thread, i can see that this is definitely not normal. looks like i'm headed for a dreaded hard reset...
Good day to all. At first sorry form my eanglish/
I have a same problem with diamond. It is overheating while charging at standby (battery temp. is about 50 C), and if it charges by USB, the battery temp is about 46 - 47 C. The phone's fly mode is switch on. HTC service couldn't answer me smth. But it says that same problem have 2 diamond from 1000, and only way to resolve problem is a change of mother board. in Russia it's about 250 euro.
And one more notice, which battery temp is 46 or 47 C, charging automaticaly switched off... Phone heating, but battery is not charging !!!
i've resolve problem...but don't know how i did it. I try to recharging stock acc. while 4 or 5 cicles, and today i have workable Diamond.
not discharge
not overheating
it's so strange, but it works
Related
I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?
With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...
I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.
Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?
Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents
Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !
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or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks
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Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......
I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
BusterTyTN
Had my HTC Diamond (Orange) around a week now using the ROM that came with it, 1.37.405.1.WWE.
I cant get the battery to last more than 8 hours, on average it lasts 6/7 hours! I am charging it overnight around 12 hours and all bars are full at the start but it drains so fast.
I have turned off 3G, bluetooth, wifi etc... set backlight to go off automatically, generally i have it locked so backlight is dimmed most of the time.
I am not making any calls or even sending texts or actually doing anything, its just laid on my desk while im at work, so who knows how long it would last if i did!
Do you think i have a dodgy battery? i dont fancy sending it back to orange with their stock problems. Would a new battery solve the issue? ROM update? or could it even be a dodgy handset? cheers. J
Well it's a normal lifetime for the Diamond...
(It's a joke...)
If what you sayed is true, there is 3 possibilities :
1) You don't have any network coverage so the diamond is seeking for one and that will drain your battery quickly... (but not sure such quickly..)
2) You're battery is dead ?
3) You'd installed an application that drain your battery.. try a hardreset to see....
I'll try a hard reset.
I'm making sure no apps are open also, Task Manager is empty. Could there be anything else running secretly in the background.
I've seen the stories of bad battery life, but 6/7 hours just seems ridiculous considering im not even using the phone, just leaving it in a state of unlocked...
I have had my Diamond for about a month now, and had been suffering from most of the usual battery issues, I am running Dutty;s Project V2 rom
A few days ago I downgraded to the .05 radio and this seems to have cured the battery issue, I do turn off bluetooth and 3G when I dont need them.
This does seem to have cured things nicely, looks like the phone will last 2 days or so
Bloke
Hi all,
I'm currently the proud (and quite satisfied) owner of an HTC Artemis. The only problem is that the phone keeps hanging more often lately. I think the end of it's lifetime is approaching...
So I'm lokking for another phone. My demands are: GPS & wifi. I'm not looking for a photo-camera that can call, I've got a digital camera for taking photo's. Google told me that the Diamond was the phone for me (I'm very much into graphical stuff, and the g-sensor is just the bomb!). However, when google-ing i've read about 2 issues. I'd like to get your opinions on these:
1. Reception
This is an issue I've found only very little reference to, so it might not be an actual problem. I've read that the reception on the diamond is quite low. I've read that a tester couldn't reach a reception of 5 out of 5 bars, no matter how close or far he was from the GSM-tower. The best he got was 3 bars out of 5. Is this an exception or do you also have this problem?
2. Battery life
OK, this one I've read a lot about. I've read about people whose Diamond gave up after 5 hours just in standby, but I've also read about people who use their Diamond "normally" (thats a very vague term) and who can do that for about 3 days without recharging the battery.
What about your Diamonds. What do you use them for (and how often), and how long does your battery last?
Are there perhaps tweaks that can help to lengthen the battery-life (can 3G be switched off for example, I think that is one of the main power-drains, right?)
Of course, if you have another phone I've missed in my Google-tour, feel free to mention it!
1, I live out in the sticks in the UK and can get full signal on the Orange network without any problems. The 2G and 3G signals are pretty much identical to what I got on my old Tytn so from my experience the reception is not a problem.
2, I've read a lot about the battery life being rubbish on the diamond. I charge overnight every night, but the remaining power at the end of the day is pretty much always more than what I had on my Tytn.
I probably use it for the following daily:
20 mins phone calls
a bit of playing around with GPS but nothing much
up to around 30 mins wifi
data connection usually on all day
an hour or so playing around with the phone apps
at weekends I poll my IMAP server every 15 mins and it doesn't make a lot of difference to the battery.
Right now, it's about an hour before I'll go to bed and I'm still on 50% battery so I don't see much problem with the life. I know it's a lot lower than non pda phones, but if I had a normal phone I'd only be using it for calls from the above list
Reception for me is a little less than my TyTn, but not enough to worry about.
Battery was terrible at first, but has settled down now. I don't think people realise that they probably thrash the battery for the first week or so playing around getting to know the device. Usually I have about 50% charge left after 18 hours so if turned it off at night I could squeeze two days from the phone without charging. Usage wise, pretty much the same as StarMonkey but I browse in Opera for about an hour a day, not with WiFi though.
Battery life might bother some, but if you've had a TyTn or another Smartphone you'll be used to charging more or less every night. This one's no different.
Thanks for your opinions! anybody else who wants to share his or her experience?
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Battery life might bother some, but if you've had a TyTn or another Smartphone you'll be used to charging more or less every night. This one's no different.
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As I said, I have an Artemis right now, and I need to recharge twice a week. I don't use bluetooth, and I turn off Wifi or GPRS when I'm not using it. I think that helps with battery-life.
I have no problem with the signal but the battery is much worse than with my Artemis or tytn II. I use tom tom a lot and get 2 hours max on the diamond. Where my Artemis and tytn was over 4 hours. But extra batteries are cheap enough on e-bay.
Shouldnt be news to many of you but i will report it anyway so :
when my gf got her diamond, battery power lasted only 1 day at normal usage. no gps, no hsdpa or whatsoever enabled, just some calls and text messages. then i tried pimping it by using diamond config and applying all energy tweaks and the new rom, still only 1.5 day at max. i was laughing at it coz my artemis/orbit lasts a week, but still i we were pissed of a bit.
now we had to change the whole device coz there was another issue with in and outgoing calls. i had to remove the cell and send the device in...few days later i got a new one, using the old batterycell. i didnt change anything, not even the windows settings and voilà : battery lives for 2-3 days !!!! thats quite astonishing for a diamond. so imho its proven what some already stated : few charges with 24h batterylife must be faulty, like mainboardissues or somethin.
so : if u really want to fix the prob, then u might have to send the phone in and let em fix it for you.
regards
Battery Issue/Diamond Exchanged
Just exchanged my diamond for another. Heat issue and battery drain without use after only 10 hours. I was wondering if the battery drain could be caused by changing the active profile from 0 to 1, but then again that made the data connection work. Will have to see if the same thing happens with the replacement diamond.
Alan
aseidman said:
Just exchanged my diamond for another. Heat issue and battery drain without use after only 10 hours. I was wondering if the battery drain could be caused by changing the active profile from 0 to 1, but then again that made the data connection work. Will have to see if the same thing happens with the replacement diamond.
Alan
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Let us know if the exchange helped. Like maybe its the device thats screwing up and not the battery itself.
My Battery from the Diamond is 4 days after recharge now down to 30% by light use.
The Problem are enrgy hungry applications in the background.
Install the powermanagment.cab. It brings a light better battery consumption.
You also can search a way to disable the loading of energy hungry applications (exemply: change or del registry entrys)
show also to my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433542
Greetings Frank
Hello guys!
It's nearlly my first posting here, but i'm reading this forum for quite a while now.
I finally got an Xda diamond and everything was ok the first couple of days, even the battery was satisfying. When i use it really much, the battery lasts for about a day, that's ok. But 2 days ago, suddenly the battery got empty from 100% down to 0% in 7 hours, although i did not use the phone much. I had a call for about an hour and that's it.
Knowing there are some possibilities to save energy, i followed some advice from this forum:
- took down the display light to stage 2
- switched off UMTS
- switched off GPS
- installed powermanagement.cab
- switched off RSS Hub auto-download
- made sure there are no applications running in the background all day
- made sure there are no data-connections like Bluetooth or GPRS running all day
I also installed PowerGuard v1.2 which told me, my Diamond drains about 65 mA, what seems to be a proper value, comparing to other peoples around here.
This morning i took the Diamond off the charging cable at 8:00 and it switched off at 16:00. I only used it for a 1 hour phone call again, thats all. I did not do anything else with it.
I don't unterstand, why it lasted much longer the first couple of days. Anybody have an idea?
Thx so far!
1. Check with Task Manager Cpu proccess
2. Hard Restet ?
I have the same problem AND additionally sudden softresets.
The battery is defect. I will buy a new one and o2 will refund the money.
wedge210483 said:
... But 2 days ago, suddenly the battery got empty from 100% down to 0% in 7 hours, although i did not use the phone much. I had a call for about an hour and that's it.
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The battery is not supposed to get empty to anywhere near 0%, it can be damaged if it does. The phone is supposed to turn off to prevent that happening.
If killing tasks does not help, maybe you just got a bad battery? Edit: ^^^ What he said!
Here's a useful link for information on Li-ion batteries: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Hi!
I recently found the solution. My sim-card was too old! I had been using it for about 4 years. A couple of days ago, I ordered a new one from my provider (O2 Germany) for free. Since I changed the sim-card, I never had any problems with the battery anymore.
Why didn't I find this advice anywhere?
Cheers
Your SIM card was "too old"? My technical prowess is nothing to brag about, but even I can tell you that that could hardly have been the cause.
Older Sims seem to drain more battery power...
I have to agree with H3x ... I don't see how a SIM card would have any effect on battery life.
As a point of reference, I'm very satisfied with my battery life. I charge it for an hour or two a couple times a week. I am diligent about turning off WiFi, Bluetooth, and running apps when not in use, but other than that I don't do anything special.
With GSM band manually selected in phone options and moderate use, my diamond can last over 2 days, with "auto" band selection it barely lasts a day...it just drains stock battery so much, even in standby...but I still can't be happier with my device, no matter what
Decided to watch battery more carefully over PowerGuard, some things started to make more sense...
Htc86 said:
With GSM band manually selected in phone options and moderate use, my diamond can last over 2 days
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Yeah, I have that selected too, so I'm sure that helps. Maybe the OP should try it?