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Hi all,
Well after much deliberation and hard choices I decided to go for the T-Mobile Compact IV due to being the best deal. I am returning to WM after 18 months ditching my 02 XDA mini s
I have been scouring these forums for weeks now to see what I can do right away to my new phone...
I want to obviously get rid of the Tmobile branded touch flo 3d..
Can you please report what best SPL's, Radios and ROM's are best for this particular device (i understand some radios work better for different carries, so obviously would like to know from experience who has best performance for tmobile).
I have searched and searched the forums, and with it being a MDA compact the answers are less definative for whats best and I just want to make sure.
I am aware of mikes thread with the compact he got for his gf but would like info in addition to this.
Would you reccomend me opening up the box and then just wiping the phone right away without using the tmobile version
Thanks for your help
Granty
I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
all i can reccomend is Dutty's lite (+, of course, all what you prefer, all tweaks and other "must have")
radio? .05, .07, .08, .14 - it depends on many factors (country, city, operator etc) so we cannot surely say "this radio is THE BEST!
one is as sure as ****: debranding is necessity, radio rom .03 is the worst, T-Mobile ROM is also one piece of ****
Thanks for both of your replies. I have downloaded SwiftBL 7.5 while I was waiting for response, seemed one to go for. Download HardSPL - Diamond - Olinex- Hope thats the one to go for and also downloaded the radio .08 and BS14, will probs bang BS14 on and give that a go. Will let ya know my experiences tomorrow!
echolock said:
I have had a UK T-Mobile MDA IV for about a week now.
I used the SwiftBL 7.5 ROM with no difficulties. Upgraded the same day as I got the phone after it had charged a bit - the T-Mobile ROM really didn't have much going for it. Didn't try the other ROMs though. No problems installing the hard SPL (jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24), it just worked. I did briefly consider sticking with the T-Mobile ROM with a bit of debranding, but it really is awful and I don't regret upgrading now!
Upgraded the radio to v1.00.25.05 as recommended in the SwiftBL thread and it worked well. Later upgraded radio to v1.00.25.BS14 and I think it works better, but that's a bit subjective - I haven't been running benchmarks and formal tests! Pretty easy to downgrade if you have to though.
I think "what's best" is pretty subjective. From the few days I've been in this forum it seems SwiftBL is like a slightly tweaked HTC ROM with some useful tools on it, and Dutty's is more of a hardcore tweaked ROM built for speed, but I might be wrong on that
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I too have had my mdac4 for a week or so. I tried the Swift rom and it was great to start with but then I lost all sound, although I did install other stuff afterwards which may have been to blame too. I ended up installing the paonosha rom and it has been very good so far, very quick and no gps lag
I'm using 08 radio
Well its here, TMobiles ROM is awful. If i didnt know about this site i'd have sent it back right away, so slow and unresponsive.
Gutted mobile.co.uk announced xperia today but oh well what can you do?
At least I got a decent deal on mine on a 12 month contract I suppose as opposed to an 18 month
I wouldn't go with the xperia even if the price is the same as diamond, touch pro would be the more reasonable choice to go.
had my MDA C4 for just over a month now and i can say a few things:
* I'm using Dutty's rom which is nice and stable and has all the default apps i need. Do not stay on the stock rom unless you have a death wish
* In terms of radio's, i'm on .08 at the moment but i'm just about to switch back as i can't seem to get a GPS lock on and i need it for TomTom. I was on .05 radio before and this was working perfect, and the battery life was also around the same as this .08
* If you have a later ROM version than 1.37 then please try and make a backup, i haven't come across any so far and it would be nice to have one if i have to revert back at some point!
* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
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* Play around. There is most likely going to be more than one ROM that will suit your needs, so it's all about what you really want from it down to the skins they have tbh. Most of the ROM's at the moment seem to have pretty much the same speeds and tweaks, and the only difference being that they customize it (whether it be custom manilla icons, start menu, etc).
That's my two cents
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As someone who is in a very similar position to Addictedddd, I echo his words of playing around.
I agree that most ROMs are similar with respect to tweaks, etc. Personally, I'm using Version 7.0 of SwiftBLs ROM. I know that this is not the latest (I think I posted somewhere recently that "newest is not necessarily the best") but it's the one that I most prefer - The one that feels right, if you like..
I've tried countless others but I always keep coming back to version 7.0..
I'm also running the 1.00.25.BS14 Radio on mine. Again, the 05 seemed OK, the 08 didn't change much but I pesonally noted a slight increase in signal with the BS14 so I stuck with it.
You need to play around with the Diamond and experiment with different programs and ROMs. Only this way will you find out what is best for you.
Finally, Don't forget to read. The Wiki has a great introduction for flashing. I've added a link below:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
Read it - I'd hate to see a post from you tomorrow saying "Help - I've Bricked it!!"
Take care and happy experimenting..
Right oh my findings..
Tmobile ROM...super slow, would have gone back if I didnt know how to change.
After much confusion of the guide saying there was a 1.40 SPL that wasnt developers I found out it was actually 1.30....
I tried installing BS14 radio with 1.30 but kept erroring at 0% (i wasnt even sure the SPL was installed right as it only took literally a second to update, even though bootloader confirmed it)
So after reading a few more peoples reports I went to HardSPL 1.40 developers (just make sure I don't do any dodgey roms) and installed the BS14 radio no problem, again the SPL updated quick taking only a second, then about a minute for the radio.
Installed swiftblade 7.5 which installed very quickly too, about 2 or 3 minutes, so much quicker than the Tmobile ROM.
Not sure how GPS lock is, havent got any sat nav software on, tried google maps which was instant but I take it that is using A-GPS.
Signal strength is not very good, 1 bar, might be my area, all other phones around here have full signal though so may just be tmobile. Will trial it for a bit but if it causes problems try 08 or 05.
I too have had my Compact IV for about a month now, also returning to WM after a stint with a Nokia N95 8Gb (Glad to be back!!). I did manage to refrain from flashing the ROM until today. I didn't have any problems with the T-Mobile ROM but have been reading the forums here and at Modaco and was interested to see if there really was that much of an improvement to be had. I have gone with TLR's Diamond ROM 3 and all i can say is wow!!, its only been a few hours so far but the entire phone is much slicker and quicker, there really is a big difference. I really must say thanks to Jockyw2001 and TheLoanRanger for their excellent work, and to everyone at XDA Developers and Modaco for sharing their experiences. I may well go on to try a few other ROM's but for now im glad to have taken the first step.
Heya, So,
I got my HD the other day. Ive installed alot of .cabs for apperences and utilitys etc.
Now I've been reading about Duttys HD 1.7 ROM and I was wondering what difference it was to the stock one. Other then some things has been removed.
Is it faster? Is it more reliable? Does it have things the stock one lacks?
Ive been reading exactly every thread about this and I haven't found the answer if its worth removing the warranty for a cooked ROM.
All creds to Dutty and the rest of you for doing such an awesome job. Dont get me wrong, not questioning your products but the usefullness.
Greetings// Gagg3
hi, here's a thread conversation about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476662
galaxys said:
hi, here's a thread conversation about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476662
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Thanks alot, searched but didnt find.
Cheers
gagg3 said:
Heya, So,
I got my HD the other day. Ive installed alot of .cabs for apperences and utilitys etc.
Now I've been reading about Duttys HD 1.7 ROM and I was wondering what difference it was to the stock one. Other then some things has been removed.
Is it faster? Is it more reliable? Does it have things the stock one lacks?
Ive been reading exactly every thread about this and I haven't found the answer if its worth removing the warranty for a cooked ROM.
All creds to Dutty and the rest of you for doing such an awesome job. Dont get me wrong, not questioning your products but the usefullness.
Greetings// Gagg3
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To name a few, because
- It probably is faster
- Got some annoying things removed like customer feedback and error reporting
- Has a better battery usage
- Fixes installed and known bugs removed
and its addictive!
kwbr said:
To name a few, because
- It probably is faster
- Got some annoying things removed like customer feedback and error reporting
- Has a better battery usage
- Fixes installed and known bugs removed
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But there's some talk that it gets slower with a cooked ROM like Duttys.
I've read it around the forums, ppl complaining over that it's slow and not that very responsive.
Again, not throwing gravel in ur eyes dutty, its what ive heard, I have no exp. with your rom WHAT SO EVER.
Thanks for the responses guys!
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But there's some talk that it gets slower with a cooked ROM like Duttys.
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Normally custom cooked roms are faster, as they are some performance tweaks included. I don't know about Dutty's rom, but I can't imagine that it is slower
My own cooked rom is just fast and stable, and I haven't included anything I don't need. Thats the main reason why I'm cooking own roms.
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Normally custom cooked roms are faster, as they are some performance tweaks included. I don't know about Dutty's rom, but I can't imagine that it is slower
My own cooked rom is just fast and stable, and I haven't included anything I don't need. Thats the main reason why I'm cooking own roms.
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i believe the topic of the messages he's refering to is improper memory management when performance tweaks are used. i've read many times that larger page pools, etc... are harder on the mrmory manager. the answer? power off or soft reset once a day. there... problem solved. i personally dont restart my hd but about once a week and i dont notice any slowdown. i believe those that do are those that moniter memory usage several times a day. think about it: if your on a diet, will you lose weight faster if you look at the bathroom scales 5 times a day or once a week?
Hi there
I'm a newbie and wondering how much I'm missing out on by sticking with the stock ROM my HD came with. Could I be experiencing better, faster performance, improved features, etc, etc with a cooked ROM, or are the differences actually pretty marginal and just for those who really enjoy modifying and customising their device?
I know I will lose my ability to call up HTC and complain if something goes wrong with my HD whilst I keep the original ROM, so I'm just trying to gauge whether the benefits of changing to a cooked ROM are worth it. I don't see myself changing ROMs a lot, but I'd love better performance and there are quite a few features of original software that bother me.
Thanks for any advice!
Daniel
ordinary people used ordinary thing...
dkwalsh said:
Hi there
I'm a newbie and wondering how much I'm missing out on by sticking with the stock ROM my HD came with. Could I be experiencing better, faster performance, improved features, etc, etc with a cooked ROM, or are the differences actually pretty marginal and just for those who really enjoy modifying and customising their device?
I know I will lose my ability to call up HTC and complain if something goes wrong with my HD whilst I keep the original ROM, so I'm just trying to gauge whether the benefits of changing to a cooked ROM are worth it. I don't see myself changing ROMs a lot, but I'd love better performance and there are quite a few features of original software that bother me.
Thanks for any advice!
Daniel
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In my experience cooked roms are cooked so they are better, more stable, have less issues & bugs, have faster performances & improved features. Thats the whole point, plus you can always revert back to stock rom anytime you want as all are available to download from the wiki
cooked roms are alot better imho, obviously depends which 1 you go for, a lite 1 will make your phone alot faster, some are feature-packed and so on.
I am currently using a cooked rom but if ever i needed to return to HTC i will put original rom on it.
Cooked is definitely the way to go. Especially if you run one of the many roms available from our own great chefs here at XDA. They are always more stable and way faster than stock roms. Plus, if you are worried about warranty and such, it is always completely reversible
You have to at least try one! If you need information on how to do it look at the guide in my signature or read the wiki. Cheers!
A long time ago a galaxy far far away, I too was a purist always stuck with stock ROM but one day I woke up and smelled the coffee and jumped ship since then I have never looked back! cooked rom is the way to go!. yes you may get one rotten apple but that doesnt mean the rest are bad far from it! I have been flashing rom's back and forth since my TyTN days and I can tell you this much, HTC or any other OEM could a learn a thing or two from the fine Chefs that have graced their presence in XDA over the last couple of years!!
As they say "don't be shy give it try or you will never know"!!!
Well, I'm convinced. Thanks for the opinions, and here goes....!
well this is only one way only once you flashed the cooked ROM then you have to continuously flash it as long as it is continued, means you will be addicted and you have to flash each new ROM that comes out, so your device will become the lab for testing new ROMs , any how you will like it that way.
ehsanij said:
well this is only one way only once you flashed the cooked ROM then you have to continuously flash it as long as it is continued, means you will be addicted and you have to flash each new ROM that comes out, so your device will become the lab for testing new ROMs , any how you will like it that way.
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im agree wit it....
especially when u flash, try to find a most suitable ROM for your usage....
[ stonedge = ordinary people used ordinary thing... ]
will when find it when u eat from chef cooking ROM here ...
- Faster
- More functional
- Fun to do (flash-aholic here )
ehsanij said:
then you have to continuously flash it as long as it is continued, means you will be addicted and you have to flash each new ROM that comes out
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Word!
The reason I have put off flashing my ROM is because there are so many I really have no idea where to start?
I just want a good ROM which makes my device faster, more stable, and look better. Any ideas?
ScarySquirrel said:
The reason I have put off flashing my ROM is because there are so many I really have no idea where to start?
I just want a good ROM which makes my device faster, more stable, and look better. Any ideas?
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Same here.
Im waiting for a cooked WM 6.5 based on an original release.
Wasnt WM 6.5 supposed to be officially released yesterday on Microsofts TechED?
Cant find anything about it on the net...
ScarySquirrel said:
The reason I have put off flashing my ROM is because there are so many I really have no idea where to start?
I just want a good ROM which makes my device faster, more stable, and look better. Any ideas?
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I only have experience with duttys 2.x and Miri's roms since 5.x
Dutty has wm6.1, miri wm6.5 as the base, I personally like to have the newest stuff...
Dutty has a lot of stuff packed together which is also quite nice, but.. like I said, I rather go with the newer stuff. Miri's rom is not too barebones (hasn't ripped everything possible away, which could cause instability), the ROM has not crashed once - I like the miri 10.0 premium running on my HD at the moment.
Oh yes, I also had problems with dutty's data connections, for some reason it kept cutting my irc session in a couple of minutes. It was a pity, because the selection of already included apps was nice. And has gotten nicer all the time.
Well, others can tell about the other ROMs, I don't have *that* much interest in just toying around with all possible ROMs.
The decision to try miri's rom as my first wm6.5 was based solely on the fact that his thread on the forum had at most postings :-D
abe
nizzon said:
Wasnt WM 6.5 supposed to be officially released yesterday on Microsofts TechED?
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Yes, it will probably be some time yet before device manufacturers begin rolling it out with their hardware...
anssibragge said:
I only have experience with duttys 2.x and Miri's roms since 5.x
Dutty has wm6.1, miri wm6.5 as the base, I personally like to have the newest stuff...
Dutty has a lot of stuff packed together which is also quite nice, but.. like I said, I rather go with the newer stuff. Miri's rom is not too barebones (hasn't ripped everything possible away, which could cause instability), the ROM has not crashed once - I like the miri 10.0 premium running on my HD at the moment.
Oh yes, I also had problems with dutty's data connections, for some reason it kept cutting my irc session in a couple of minutes. It was a pity, because the selection of already included apps was nice. And has gotten nicer all the time.
Well, others can tell about the other ROMs, I don't have *that* much interest in just toying around with all possible ROMs.
The decision to try miri's rom as my first wm6.5 was based solely on the fact that his thread on the forum had at most postings :-D
abe
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For me memory management is very important i have tested all the roms and flashed all the new roms till now Miri's rom is the best for me it is fast and hardly you reach to 50% of memory usage with tons of software installed, i know lots of people likes duty's rom but for me when i load it easily it reached above 50% of memory then after using gps and other heavy applications it reaches up to 90% that makes the device unstable, that was my opinion
Fallen Spartan said:
In my experience cooked roms are cooked so they are better, more stable, have less issues & bugs, have faster performances & improved features. Thats the whole point, plus you can always revert back to stock rom anytime you want as all are available to download from the wiki
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Cooked ROM Vs Stock ROM:
Faster: Agree
Improved features: Agree
Better: Depends on the quality of the cooked ROM
More Stable: Not for most of the time
Less Issues and Bugs: Not really the case
But flashing cooked ROM is really fun and addictive. However, I usually end up flashing back to a tweaked stocked ROM for daily use.
Well, I just installed Dutty's 3.3 ROM, and I have to say that so far it is so much better than the stock one. He's fixed a bunch of things that had been giving me the sh1ts about the original one.
Now I'm tempted to see what Miri's 10 is also like...damn, I'm hooked!
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Well, I just installed Dutty's 3.3 ROM, and I have to say that so far it is so much better than the stock one. He's fixed a bunch of things that had been giving me the sh1ts about the original one.
Now I'm tempted to see what Miri's 10 is also like...damn, I'm hooked!
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....and now it begins, the continuous flashing!!!!!
Well First off I gotta say some of the things here are pretty damn super.
But the thing I find is most of these roms take up too much battery all too quickly, even when i barely use my phone.
So which rom should i try and stick in order to maximise my battery life?
Quick response would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Well First off I gotta say some of the things here are pretty damn super.
But the thing I find is most of these roms take up too much battery all too quickly, even when i barely use my phone.
So which rom should i try and stick in order to maximise my battery life?
Quick response would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Well, the question is what you really want to have in your ROM and what is obsolete for you. Eye-candy needs power....
Switch of all automatic Facebook, email, weather, stock, twitter etc. updates, switch off 3G, dim the light and use wifi only when necessary - this will increase your battery life significantly.
And you might try the link in my signature as well.
I'm not an expert but according to my experience for cooked ROMs,
- Xara & Vision and (this ROM is similar to Jeperlea's) is very good bettery drainage but the HTC Calculator annoy me very much. Anyway, -Jeperlea has been back to continue his ROM, but I really feel boring of his ROM's inconsistence
- Russell Eclair's, his ROM is also very impressive for me, unfortunately his Final ROM has some trouble in the first usage. Over all, like it.
- SGXU XPERIA UNOFF, like this ROM too, unfortunately some program isn't working properly.
- 826X-peria, some version is great in battery drainage and performance but some isn't. This ROM is also stopped due to stolen willyung's gadget.
The worst; Energy ROM, I dunno know why people flash this **** to their phone because it's the worst ROM I've ever used. Good interface (Kinda boring), but really poor performance, u can't use this for daily used.
Sorry to the OP for slightly drifting off topic.
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Energy ROM, I dunno know why people flash this **** to their phone because it's the worst ROM I've ever used.
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Well, maybe because not everybody acts according to your standards.
I won't go through all the "fantastic" ROMs you listed above just to verify whether Energy ROMs are that bad or not. It's just strange that you kind of recommend ROMs which obviously have problems running at all and contain annoying software.
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I am happy with Energy, it is way more performant than others I tried before - and it just works out of the box.
I am getting a little tired of the energy roms and Jackos roms draining the battery....i'm not looking for a fix, I want to know if a chef will cook up a rom that is similar to Chadsters e2 roms. I want something stable and very close to stock with task manager, youtube, google maps, etc. I'm really wanting this type of rom but all similar roms have been deleted. Thank You to anyone that helps out.
Try WCX 21916 w/Arcsoft. It's what you are searching for.
I want the htc messaging, idk why, I just really like it. I want it close to the stock 2.10 version with all the goodies.
Hi redwolf... The WC roms do have an HTC messaging version. They all work great, I'm a fan. Definately give one a go. You just need to decide 219XX (classic buttons) or 23XXX (bottom buttons). Both have HTC Messaging options. All the WC roms are fast, and have very good battery life.
Jackos rom drains your battery? Maybe your battery is bad my battery lasts like 2 days with Jackos rom
Battery Drain
No, I have two batteries. One was the original that was fine and another I got from a warranty exchange. I used Chadsters roms for a long time and had to switch to energy and/or Jackos, and my battery last at a max of about 11 hours. With chadsters, it would go for like 3 days without dying. Thank you for the advice and I will give the WC roms a try. Again, Thanks!!
Go try WC's roms. I've tried lots of stuff and I think they are the best for stabilty and speed. Don't expect bling, but expect a stock-like ROM that is better in every way. See my signature.
(and btw, there is an HTC messaging version)
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Sry, looks like from your last post that you are already on your way to trying a WC rom...
People seriously get days out of their batteries on these phones? I have two 2400 mh batteries that I swap in the morning and afternoon....it's not rom specific because I did the same thing with the stock rom...I figure it's a device usage issue...I use the thing a lot more than other people, I suppose....but really??....days out of their batteries?
Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
My testers have all different kinds of usage with their phones...one uses 3g and wifi on constantly, others use 3g and sync emails every 5 minutes for work...so the testing has been very thorough in this aspect....
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Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
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Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
Wasnt implying anything, was just stating procedure we go through is ll...
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Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
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If you want a specifics scenario with WCX 28148 Sense 2021 build :
I use a RHOD100 with 4.49.25.17 radio, with HSDPA enabled, dynamic screen backlight, 2 minutes turn off device, 10 minutes OTA Active sync, Opera backgrounded, Twitter and Weather updated hourly, and I reach 2 days after 2 full battery cycles after HR.
Note that radio's choice has a real impact on autonomy. .91 and .95 sucks around 30% more battery with the very same scenario.
Now, your autonomy will vary with your area coverage when you call. I phone at least 30 minutes a day, sometimes more, rarely less.
Hmm....I've never changed the radio from the original AT&T ROM...I've wondered if I should in the past but being new and stupid, I just figured that since I've never had signal issues and what not, I'd just keep the one I have (not to mention I don't know how to flash a new one...lol)...the one I have now is 4.48.25.20...
btw, I like hearing other's usage stats, I take and make a ton of calls...I remember my 900 minute monthly plan from years ago...and the 1400 dollar bill I got in a month for going over my plan limit...lmao, I forget how many hours of calls I had...but who wouldn't when the 1400 dollar number hits?