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Post Exteneded Rom Links Here.

We have lost the exteneded roms again.
This is the 2nd time that I know of.
I think this has to do with the fact that they were not linked to post thus unkonw files get killed. I read that some were when I first came here.
I have most of them and will start uploading them again, linking them to a post.
Anybody have a better idea or know why they have gone?

Not sure whether they've been deleted or not, unless you have been reposting. They are under BlueAngel_Roms instead of Extended_Roms. Things seem to keep getting moved.

And what are they doing there ?
Sure I have been uploading to ExtenedRoms for over an hour now.
I will move the buggers!
Rename The Folder Exteneded_Roms
Clean up the file names
Gee I love house work thought I was would be cooking in the Rom Kitchen, but no.
We are going to have to post the links as they got killed once before.
Thought you were out.

Can you belive this!
Got a folder name that says "Dont touch MDAIIIUser Uploading" and we have dowloades.
You around need so help.

ok done
cleaned up the Exteneded_Roms
Will post in the morning.
We need to take these apart and find what version they are then rename them.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Exteneded_Roms/IIs Asia WWE Ext ROM.zip
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Exteneded_Roms/Seimens_SX66_Ext_ROM_ENG.zip
ftp://xda:[email protected]_MDAIII_Extended_Rom_Inc_DeviceInfo.zip

Do you need some assistance with the Excel sheet for ROM Versions and contained cab files?
Is there a neater way of structuring the ftp server directories? Is there any way of setting folder permissions on the server for read/write only and not alter/delete?

Bebbo
Do I need help in the Exteneded Rom Kitchen. Does the .... (ok no bad jokes)
Sure do BIG Time!!! Its not my kitchen, I just work there!
The Idea of the Kitchen is not realy to find out what version number Orange Rom A has for an application but to see if Orange's Rom A has application / Patches that are better than our base.
The Sheet just is a list of the files which go:
Base (I-mate) + Rom A + Rom B = Extended Rom Kitchen (ERK) Rom
My end goal is to generate a ERK Rom Version which is as upto date as possible.
And have this info on wiki so we dont need to hunt for it.
How far am I, Well The UK orange rom has been looked at but info not posted in the kitchen.
( I think RTP worked on that but I am not sure as I was haveing PMs with few people about that rom. )
We have the 3 roms above that need to be looked and info posted in the Kitchen and added to the Excel Sheet.
The Excel Sheet needs to be made to look nice so the rest of us can undersatand it.
We need to check against the "List of know Blue angels" to see what rom is missing and see if we can find it.
Oh yes and its friday, I get to pick my kids as its "The 3rd weekend of every month" and as my ex-wife has got a date, thus By 12:00.
Chances of me doing much till monday are ZERO.
So you want a job, pay is s**t, hours are bad, it can get hot in the kitchen when there is a fire and you lose all your stuff.
You need to understand Roms, read cab files, use your brain and most of all admit to the fact that you don't know everything and thus ask.
I am looking for Pastry Chef as well. One that can write applications.
Is there any way of setting folder permissions on the server for read/write only and not alter/delete?
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Given that at the moment we are all the user XDA, I would say no.
What we need is a "BA_Admin" that revokes the rights of XDA to Read only, then we just get into the next problem, the person that posted (XDA) can't update it, so he needs to be BA_Admin...
The FTP site is a public place and like Toilets some people just can't pee in the Pot like the rest of us and sonebody has to clean up the mess.
Is there a neater way of structuring the ftp server directories?
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Got some ideas, then share them with us.

Will have a look at dir structure but seems reasonable to me at the moment (Though Extended is the correct spelling ). Will use my WinCE CAB Manager to see what if anything is different on rom's you haven't had chance to view yet and generally assist where I can.
I will have a look at the orange rom as well, time permitting.
Would it be better to extract the .nbf files to sub dirs under the Extended_ROMS dir and have similar structure for radio and CE ROM?
ie ->
BlueAngel/Extended_Roms/Imate_PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP/ms_.nbf
(With cabs extracted as well under a cabs sub dir?)
BlueAngel/CE_Roms/Imate_PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP/nk.nbf
BlueAngel/Radio_Roms/Imate_PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP/radio_.nbf
Or leave as is and use the kitchen with a CAB's dir under it with all known versions of cab files so we can select the most appropriate ones?

I've posted the document on the Orange 1.12.139 ROM into the Kitchen. It's fairly large since there is so much in the Orange ROM.
Here's a link:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_1_22/Docs/Orange_WWE_1.12.139_ExtROM.doc

Unfortunately nothing really new though (Wish I had known you were doing this rom - just wasted 2 hours!).
I haven't looked at the WModem.exe update yet - any ideas what this is for?
Who keeps moving files in the BlueAngel section of the FTP server? Makes life difficult having to keep searching each time. Please let us all know what you are trying to achieve as it keeps breaking links on other web pages!

Running it comes up with this text:
The utility will simulate this device as a wireless modem, and let your PC/Notebook be connected to network wirelessly.
Before you press the 'Start' button, please make sure you have connected the device to your PC/Notebook by serial or IrDA connection and disabled the Activesync.
When the wireless modem is activated you will not be able to receive any voice calls.
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It then gives options for Serial, IrDA, USB and Bluetooth. Start, Stop and View Log buttons. Plus connection status LEDs - Connection, Send Data and Receive Data.
I've never tried it. I tend to use something more direct for dialup from my laptop.

OK guys!!!
I don't know what your naming system is but I've uploaded the O2 UK EXT ROM and I've called it "O2_UK_XDAIIs_Ext_ROM_112178_WWE.zip". This one is the original from my device.
Regards,
Dom

Ext_ROM password??
MDAIIIUser said:
ok done
cleaned up the Exteneded_Roms
Will post in the morning.
We need to take these apart and find what version they are then rename them.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Exteneded_Roms/IIs Asia WWE Ext ROM.zip
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Exteneded_Roms/Seimens_SX66_Ext_ROM_ENG.zip
ftp://xda:[email protected]_MDAIII_Extended_Rom_Inc_DeviceInfo.zip
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Any known pw's for those .nbf files? I tried Rom editor but couldn't recognize the pw's

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Any known pw's for those .nbf files? I tried Rom editor but couldn't recognize the pw's
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They aren't .nbf files???????? They are zipped up (rar'd up) cab files extracted from the extended roms.
+*+*+*+ FOR INFO +*+*+*+
The xda3nbftool has an extra command line option of -t which attempts to discover the xor key used to encrypt the .nbf files. This seems to work well for all files except the radio_.nbf file which causes it problems. Try it on roms that you are having problems with to see if it is the correct key. You can check the resulting .nba file with a hex editor to ensure the PH20B and other data is shown at the beginning of the .nba file.
+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
I have pulled the above ext roms apart and the version numbers are as follows:
IIs Asia WWE Ext ROM.zip = Version "1.12.925 WWE"
Seimens_SX66_Ext_ROM_ENG.zip = Version "1.20.115 WWE"
T-Mobile_MDAIII_Extended_Rom_Inc_DeviceInfo.zip = Version "1.06.117 WWE"
Files renamed appropriately so any links will now be broken (plus the fact that some kindly person has renamed the Extended ROM directory to its correct spelling!)

Help With Signing .CAB files

Hey Guys/Girls,
I have been cooking for a while as some of you may know but I haven't done much in the .CAB department yet. So I need some help in how to sign a .CAB file. I looked around and founds lots of info on msdn but I figure some regular english and not "tech" talk might be a little easier. So can some one tell me the steps to sign a cab file? I read I need the WM6 SDK which comes with Signtool.exe but I also read I need the Windows Server 2003 SDK so I am all confused at this point. I know its not that hard just a few "black box" commands correct? Anyway you all get the point of this post any help would be helpfull. The reason I posted in ROM development is simple the CABS are part of the rom I want to start putting all cabs in the config.txt so users can uninstall them if they like to gain some space back. I figure if I compress the .exe in the cabs it should take up less space than a non compressed .exe cooked in the rom.
AustinSnyc

This is the easiest but different from mine

Creating your own ROMs

I am a software developer by trade and so I hope I will be comfortable with creating my own ROM. However, I have no idea where to begin! Can anyone point me in the right direction?

on the wiki you can all read about it.

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on the wiki you can all read about it.
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Thanks for the quick replu xmoo. I've had a look there before but it's not answering any questions. I have no idea what dev environment I need nor how to do it. Am I missing something or is it just my Sunday head?

you need a kitchen, in the kitchen you unpack a ROM image, you then exchange, remove or add files to the extracted ROM image. then you repack it. thats it. no programming skills involved.
and all information regarding kitchens can be found in the wiki, I did at least.

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you need a kitchen, in the kitchen you unpack a ROM image, you then exchange, remove or add files to the extracted ROM image. then you repack it. thats it. no programming skills involved.
and all information regarding kitchens can be found in the wiki, I did at least.
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Thanks for the info.
I have Hard-SPL'ed my X1 and am ready for a new ROM now. I have downloaded a NBH file and used the NBHUtil to unpack it. Is this the point at which I customise the individual parts? If so what do I use to do this with the NB files?

NBHUtil is not a kitchen, its a utility only. And NB files are just the components of the NBH file, like a NB for the radio part, a NB for the OS part, a NB for ... you get the idea. The actual contents (exe, dll, eg.: files that ARE windows mobile) are encoded inside the NB's.
Search for "RaphaelKitchen" version 0.62, download that. Once you got that far, get back in here and I'll give you the config files you'll need for the RaphaelKitchen.
Instructions on how to do what: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507
In that message, leave out the parts about dumping and get directly to the instructions for the kitchen. The actual "cooking" (thats what its called, hence its called a kitchen) comes between instructions "e, b (for dumped ROM),space key" cuz now you just unpacked the ROM and you have tons and tons of DLLs, EXEs, eg.: you unpacked the NBH in NBs and decoded the NBs to its contents.
You cook by removing and adding stuff to the respective folders.
After you did that, continue by following the post: "c, a, press BuildOS Play icon and wait to finish, Close BuildOS, close PagePool Changer and press space" which equals putting the files back together and compiling a new NBH which you can flash...
and i'm sorry but the WIKI acutally REALLY does explain all that:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial
The RaphaelKitchen is a modified version of alex kitchen for the kaiser, it is essentially exactly the same.

Cheers Schaggo!
I was looking at the Xperia Wiki not the main Wiki My bad sorry.
I'll give this a go later and report back

No problem, no problem. As I said, as you start cooking, get back in here and I'll provide pre-edited config files with all the settings for the X1.

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No problem, no problem. As I said, as you start cooking, get back in here and I'll provide pre-edited config files with all the settings for the X1.
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Hi, could you provide the pre-edited config files for X1? Thanks.

Ok so here's what I have done:
Download and unpacked RaphaelKitchen 0.62 as stated.
Ran it with 'e' then 'a' as the command line parameter to extract the NB files again (just to see).
Found all the NB files in BaseROM folder and a sh*tload of mixed files in the temp folder. At the root I have a couple of BIN files as well as some NB related files. dump_imgfs and dump_xip are the main folders in there with lots of bits beneath then. Is this right?
Then ran the build ROM commands as you stated. Pagepool wasn't open though(?) or couldn't see it anyway. Everything else went to plan and I got a NBH file in the end.
I expected the packages folder to be populated but nothing went in. Has this all gone to plan?
**Edit: Also never saw PagePool **

Here is the extra config you need for X1
Extract and put the files in the root of the RaphaelKitchen.
Run "X1Kitchen.CMD".
This is what I am using for "e"xtract and "c"ook a room and it's working perfectly w/ me. Other options is not tested or use by me.

I even added/modded some more files. Replace all files and run RaphaelKitchen.cmd and continue as instructed in the manual.

Cheers guys. Will try this config tonight and get back to you

In the extract ROM there are two options:
- one needs RUU_signed.nbh only
- the other one needs RUU_signed.nbh + part01.raw and part02.raw
which is the right one to choose? if b): where do i get those files?
/edit: never mind, figured it out myself
Flashing now :-D

For future reference, if some more people ask:
if you just want to unpack an existing ROM image (nbh-file) use option 1. this unpacks the file and fills up the folders with the files to cook with.
if you want to reconstruct a ROM you (or someone else) dumped from his device, chose option 2. this decodes the raw-files (dumps) according to (simply spoken, please forgive my inaccuracy ) the template which is given by the nbh-file. without the nbh-file the kitchen doesnt know how to decode the raw-files, it needs a reference file (the nbh) to do so.

hi i'm a noob to the whole wm scene and i'd like to learn how to cook my own roms as well. I've downloaded the kovsky kitchen but i can't find anywhere on how to use it. i've looked in the wiki but can't find how to use kitchens. maybe i've overlooked something. at any rate, if someone could post a link on a tutorial or any info that could get me started, it'd be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance

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hi i'm a noob to the whole wm scene and i'd like to learn how to cook my own roms as well. I've downloaded the kovsky kitchen but i can't find anywhere on how to use it. i've looked in the wiki but can't find how to use kitchens. maybe i've overlooked something. at any rate, if someone could post a link on a tutorial or any info that could get me started, it'd be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance
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take yer pick, but the first one looks okay!
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...orial&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

thanks! one more thing... should i backup my original rom? if so, how do i do this?

Hypercore and X1 "kovsky"
i just had to ask, well kovsky kitchen works for the experia right? so hypercore multidevice, shows no experia or kovsky config, #11 post says raphael kitchen xperia.cmd, so you can use that kitchen for x1 as well, so how do you get hypercore/X1? to work

How to reduce windows folder files

Hi,
I'm just testing my cooking skills on sparkienl's kitchen.
Problem is I've noticed that every package I put inside my ROM, even if I redirect it to the program files, puts it files on both program files and windows folder.
now, normally this wouldn't bother me much - but the folder has well over 5000 files (had about double that number before), since I presume it has an impact on performance I'de like to know if I can safely delete the files on the window folder (and how) or not,
thanks in advance and sorry if the question was asked before - I did lots of searching and couldn't find anything helpful

Euch said:
Hi,
I'm just testing my cooking skills on sparkienl's kitchen.
Problem is I've noticed that every package I put inside my ROM, even if I redirect it to the program files, puts it files on both program files and windows folder.
now, normally this wouldn't bother me much - but the folder has well over 5000 files (had about double that number before), since I presume it has an impact on performance I'de like to know if I can safely delete the files on the window folder (and how) or not,
thanks in advance and sorry if the question was asked before - I did lots of searching and couldn't find anything helpful
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Why not ask this query within kitchen thread?

I wouldnt go about just deleting files from the windows directory. That said, i think the program extendir can be used to move files out of the windows directory whilst still leaving them functional. I think it must be cooked into ROM or something (i never looked into it) or if the project is still on.

Fallen Spartan - because it happend on both Sparkienl's and Juggler's kitchens I've tried, so I presumed its more of a common ROM cooking question then a kitchen specific one - your call on whether to keep the thread open,
Ask - thanks, looks like a great addition to te ROM, but as far as I've read its only for files added after the ROM have been flashed, meaning I will need to create a bare ROM, its not so far from what I want - but there are still those pesky thousends of files

SD/MemCard Nu-Incubus26Jc's FroYo 2.2 RLS10 7/13/2010

This is being released for TESTING PURPOSES ONLY. This is not intended to be a full release.
This is an SD Card release ONLY, if you want to flash the entire phone, visit the original thread. Beyond that, the build is 100% unchanged from the 7/10/2010 release of Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 [Deodexed] [RLS10] - this is not the all languages release, just the standard RLS10 as downloadable from here.
All original information is in Incubus' original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310
I may just be being impatient, but this froze up on me a couple of times right after completing setup and beginning sync. Still, I have been able to fully install, boot the phone through HaRET, get text messages, and a little more. I've barely had much time to test this, but it's a step above your traditional proof of concept, so try it out!
Note, this release is not intended to either show up Incubus26Jc, nor claim his work as my own. I simply made the conversion and RAR'd it up. I'm sure Incubus26Jc chooses not to make an SDCard version available for his own reases and possibly doesn't want his name associated for whatever reason, I didn't clear this release in advance, and if requested, I will delete the thread.
>>>Direct Download Nu-Incubus Super FroYo 2.2 RLS10SD<<<

NuAngel said:
I actually bought a few pieces of software to do the conversion, but I figured a few bucks was worth it for something fun like this. Although, if anybody would like to donate a few bucks to the cause, PM me and I can get you my paypal address.
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What exactly did you "convert"? And what software did you need? From first glance it just looks like you just threw the tar in with all the sdcard files found in other builds. The extracted tar and tgz are the same size... and you said that it's 100% the same thing... so why do we need a separate thread for this? Just ask Incubus if he could add the andboot files in a separate download in the original thread...

Well, in most basic terms all I did was convert the TGZ to a TAR, then grabbed the necessary HaRET files - but after this many releases, Incubus has intentionally had no SDCard version of his releases, so I just thought I'd toss this one out there for those like me who were interested in trying his latest release, but don't want to completely make the switch to Android and just like running it through WinMo.
NuAngel

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Well, I'll just say the most basic thing I did was convert the TGZ to a TAR, then grabbed the necessary HaRET files - but after this many releases, Incubus has intentionally had no SDCard version of his releases, so I just thought I'd toss this one out there for those like me who were interested in trying his latest release, but don't want to completely make the switch to Android and just like running it through WinMo.
NuAngel
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I read a post a while back by dzo on incubus' thread that in order to boot the TGZ from HaRet, you need to modify something in the default.txt (add a couple of lines in the cmd). Thanks for this though...

egzthunder1 said:
I read a post a while back by dzo on incubus' thread that in order to boot the TGZ from HaRet, you need to modify something in the default.txt (add a couple of lines in the cmd). Thanks for this though...
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I am using Androidinstall.tgz files. Just install it to the SD card using the norootfs method that has been used for a while. His builds aren't anti-SD card from what I can tell...

Thanks for the kind words, EGZ. Wasn't trying to take any attention away from Incubus at all, I just wanted to tinker with it, myself, which was why I released it! I don't really intend to keep up with future releases, unless people actually want me to continue.
And the reason I had to spend money is because I don't currently have a single Linux machine in my place, and WinRAR doesn't make TAR files.
NuAngel

Do I understand this correctly?
Are you basically just wanting to install the Incubus FroYo build on the SD card? I was unsure about the exact method to do this as well. Here are the steps I followed to make it happen.
I think I did something similar to what you are doing here, except the convert the tgz to tar. All I did was take the tgz file and rename the extension to tar. No zipped or rar file program needed. Then I grabbed the basic haret files from Myn's eclair along with the updated zImage file. I threw it all in the andboot dir on the SD card. Everything installed just fine. Is this what you are trying to accomplish?

Vivafutbol - yup, pretty much the same process - I just never expected renaming the TGZ to TAR to work - they're similar fromats, but not identical... surprised it worked!
Still, if anyone is interested in checking it out, they can download it from the link above, no need to do any work.
NuAngel

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And the reason I had to spend money is because I don't currently have a single Linux machine in my place, and WinRAR doesn't make TAR files.
NuAngel
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There is no need to spend money for what you did. TGZ is just a gzipped TAR file and many freeware archivers can extract TAR from TGZ - like 7-Zip http://www.7-zip.org/ ..
Also, HaRET can handle TGZ..

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And the reason I had to spend money is because I don't currently have a single Linux machine in my place, and WinRAR doesn't make TAR files.
NuAngel
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Just out of curiosity, what program did you have to purchase that does this?

milanche said:
There is no need to spend money for what you did. TGZ is just a gzipped TAR file and many freeware archivers can extract TAR from TGZ - like 7-Zip http://www.7-zip.org/ ..
Also, HaRET can handle TGZ..
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Doesn't HaRET just boot the zImage? Then in the kernel is where you would activate the system image like in the old days, or the adroidinstall.tar or tgz?

Forget I tried.

Oh, and 7-Zip will extract TGZ's - but the TGZ had folders in it, not another TAR file - thus getting those folders back in to a TAR required another piece of software - 7Zip doesn't create tar files.
It's okay, it was like $10. I didn't expect this to become the focal point of the ROM. Jesus.

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Forget I tried.
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It's great that you tried. You won't get the experience unless you do try.
The only problem I have with all of this is that you indirectly asked if people would donate to you. You couldve done a little research and found out that you didnt need to spend any money.
I'm not trying to attack you, you just couldve went about it differently. Asked Incubus if he could host it in the original thread (and at least given you credit), or if he would mind if you opened a new thread. I'm not speaking for him but I'm sure he would'nt have mind.
Again, I think it's great that you tried this on your own. We need more people like that in this community.

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Oh, and 7-Zip will extract TGZ's - but the TGZ had folders in it, not another TAR file - thus getting those folders back in to a TAR required another piece of software - 7Zip doesn't create tar files.
It's okay, it was like $10. I didn't expect this to become the focal point of the ROM. Jesus.
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I did it manually as well, and I didn't even rename the .tgz to .tar
I admit I had to hunt around for some files, so this does help, thank you

Its not my rom either. Its dzo's rom. I just done a few things to it. The reason i never put up sd install files in the roms is because of all the problems people usually have until they flash nand and all is better. I can put the haret files on the OP if you would like. No harm done buddy.

I saw your windows rom but haven't tried it yet because i'm still using nfsfan. Apreciate someone new taking an interest in vogue. Also I did flash froyo to my sd card but did have to read quite a bit. I am sure I would have appreciated being spoon fed. Thanks.

Since the last few posts have been pretty positive, one thing I might work on is slapping in an updated zImage file, since I did use a slightly olde one to try and boost stability (those who know my Windows Mobile ROM know that's my central focus).
NuAngel

NuAngel said:
Since the last few posts have been pretty positive, one thing I might work on is slapping in an updated zImage file, since I did use a slightly olde one to try and boost stability (those who know my Windows Mobile ROM know that's my central focus).
NuAngel
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Also, the initrd.gz is very old (Maybe before the .tgz support was implemented). Try using THIS ONE (taken from HERE) with the tgz to see if it works.

I hope you did not take my post on the negative side. At the very least this thread has created some good conversation about how these files actually work together. I did have to search around for a while to get an understanding of which files should be used.
I personally like the SD version of the builds, because I don't have the guts to wipe out the windows install and risk breaking this great little device.