hey guys,
i'm looking for an app which plays a short sound or sth like that while writing a sms.
like everytime when the max number of characters per sms is reached or if there're just 10 more characters left etc.
i know there is an overview already, but it's always covered by the keyboard ... it's annoying to put it down and up again all the time :/
The sms sending thingy is a html file... i wonder if it would support a script that will make a noise if the counter hits 160.. but i think it's a pocketIE page.. and pocketIE isnt that sophisticated.. i think...
but if you want to send texts that'll never be longer than 160 characters it could be done by not permitting text to be entered over 160 characters..
it's just a theory.. i dont know if this all can be done..!
looks like we'll never know :/
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Anyone else have a problem where they send a message to someone and then the person you sent it to, end up receiving 2 instead? It seems to be all the time. Any ideas? Im with O2 in the UK. Also the annoying LED's on the unit. Sometimes when i do the reg fix it works fine, other times after a h/reset and reg fix applied, the light starts again about 10 mins later, and it seems impossible to stop it......
Help guys
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Ignore this one, turns out after a little research, if you use SPB Pocket plus close button feature, you have to make an exception for tmail.exe
heres a fix
When an sms is compsed there is an option in the sms settings that will allow you to tick “Use Unicode when necessary” if this option is ticked what will happen either your sms will be sent twice
(for the people who really want know what Unicode is, its software that allows software to see foreign charcthers, such as chines Koren. More info at http://www.unicode.org/)
So just untick the option will resolve the problem. When this option is ticked instead of your charcherts size being the 160 it is dropped to 70 charcheres so as soon as you go over the 70 mark its 2 sms.
To fix this you go from the front of your device
Click on start, then down to messaging.
Tap on accounts in the tab below and then select accounts from the list.
Now tap on tex messages
Now just click Unicode off.
AND there we have it.
Actually, Using the option Unicode when necessary uses Unicode formatting ONLY when a Unicode character is found in the message.
I always put this option on, and when my message contains any Unicode character, it converts the whole message into Unicode (hence the message size will be a multiples of 70 chars and not 160). But if your message is pure ANSI characters (all English) then it will be send as it without using Unicode encoding (160 chars).
RZZKT slaam walicum, bud or just plain hello,
i see your point, only thing is here in the UK when we send an sms it goes through spefic sms centre's on the mobile networks then gets routed through various sms gateways etc etc what happens on the Vodafone network and on orange is when you compose a sms say just right TEST if the unicode option is ticked on then the sms when routed will be sent 2ice, on vodafone iv tracked the process for the sms and we can see whats called sms refernce number and if a phone is sending multipull sms the refernce number will be the same, but from my device(spv m2000-unlocked and office qteck9090) the sms refernce number stays the same so the networjk does not belive its a multipull sms but instead it treats it as the device is sending 2 seperate sms's--even when the tracking info time tag shows id time frame i.e sms 1 19:00:16secs sms 2 19:00:16secs.
As i work for Vodafone i can track the sms traffic on our system but its the same situation with the orange network when i have my orange sim in the spv.
Just the way our networks work im afraid. As for the above poor chapy, its going to either be what we are discussing or issue issue with his device(which may be more probable orrrrrrr issue with o2)
never mind wish him all the best!
N2h, wa'alaykom assalam
Ohh i see! thats why its not happening here with me.
We have something called SMS Center, we just put this center's number in the SMS message settings.
Its nice to work in Vodafone... guess you have unlimited phone calls 8)
Lucky you :wink:
I have an Alpine on O2 (UK) running all the default software and ROMs.
My mother has some old Samsung phone - black & white text only style.
When I send her text messages, she'll often receive several, all of which say "Incompatible message format"... I'm just sending ordinary SMS.
I noticed today when I was typing a message to her, that in the place where it shows how many characters there are and how many messages it will take, it said 155/3 SMS - meaning there are 155 characters and it will take 3 SMS to send it... Why could this be?
Does anyone know what's going on?
it's because you use symbols that are not standart english.
and when you use them in sms they are send not as ordinary text, but in unicode - thats' why there's 70 letters for 1 sms. On my 2020i on eng. keyboard there is symbol ' near spacebar which is not standart so using it turns sms to be send in unicode.
Your mother's phone doesn't support unicode as I see... so try to use standard symbols only - maybe on your keyboard layout there are others not like mine, but you can determine which it is by typing them all and watching when sms letter limit moves from 160 to 70.
Ahh thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I think it's when autocomplete inserts a nonstandard apostrophe in certain words that will be doing it then.
Turned off the autocorrect thing which adds the nonstandard apostrophe, sent some test messages and its all sorted now. Thanks again.
Seems SMS messages are restricted to 160 characters on my Diamond, anything over and it goes into a second SMS. Is there a way to extend this?
I've searched the forum, but I couldn't find a solution... either that or my searching skills are nil points
even if you changed it on your end. the received phone would still split the message.
You sure? I don't understand. I could type bigger texts than this on my old phones. Isn't there new versions of SMS that support more characters that have been out for a few years now? Or am I missing something?
hoolak said:
You sure? I don't understand. I could type bigger texts than this on my old phones. Isn't there new versions of SMS that support more characters that have been out for a few years now? Or am I missing something?
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It is called email
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service
SMS is restricted to 160 characters each message. That isn't something with the Diamond but a limitation of the protocol -always, on every phone-. that's why it is called SMS: "SHORT message service".
Most modern phones, including the Diamond, are sending multiple messages to overcome this limit. In most cases the receiving phones are able to combine those segmented messages.
So, perhaps some settings (on you Diamond, or more likely on the other end) are mixed up.
So I just ignore the fact I can type text messages over 160 characters on my old LG/Sony phones without having to send two messages and get used to the fact my futuristic Diamond can't?
aaah, maybe it's an optical illusion. I just feel I'm having to send shorter text since getting this phone. Maybe I should reduce my font text size to help me from feeling/seeing things lol. Excuse my loco'ness.
As I said, your Diamond will overcome this restriction by dividing your text in seperate messages, you have to do nothing, just type what you want to type. If you are not able to do so, search for any relevant settings. I guess your Diamond isn't much different from mine, and mine is intelligent enough to do the job on its own.
Yeah, it will go over 160. So, if I do, the recipient will receive two (or more) text messages?
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Yeah, it will go over 160. So, if I do, the recipient will receive two (or more) text messages?
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Techically: yes. But he/she also did with messages send with your old phone. It all depends on the phone and settings used by the recipient if it actually shows up as seperate messages or if they will be combined again.
cheers. I shall put it to the test by text my girlfriends phone! Huzzah!
Succes! (and as this forum has a restriction of AT LEAST 10 characters, I type some nonsense as well )
Just send an MMS, its cheaper than two SMS (at least with my german contract) and you can send 300KB of text. That should cover even the longest short message ;-)
Well my phone contract allows me unlimited text messages (sms). I just didn't want to confuse ppl with my 2 part texts.
I did the test. Sent a text 180-odd characters long (Diamond said '2 messages').. received on a Sony Ericsson all contained in 1 text message. Damn you Diamond for making me flap.
You really don';t get it do you?
When you had to pay for your sms, you'd get really expensive.
Technically, in the 'mobile phone world', a SMS-message CAN NOT BE longer than 160 characters.
Not a single phone can do that.
So when your girls phone sais 1 message, it cleverly combines your 2 sent messages.
Send it to a ericsson t28
No, I really didn't get it, but now I do thanks to my thirst for knowledge and the helpful people of this forum.
Sorry if my lack of SMS protocol knowledge appauled you
With the new lineup of full keyboard phone, texting 160 characters if pretty easy to do, especially when your friends don't like to talk on the phone and strictly text. Has anybody found a registry hack to allow more than 160 characters? For instance, the woman has sent numerous texts to me and she has AT&T as do i, and there has been messages she sends that are well over 500 characters on her Pantech and it allows it.
phones already do this
you can send larger txts but your carrier charges you one text per 160 characters.
or you could use email
I have unlimited text so it really doesn't matter to me how many text messages I have in a month. Anybody?
bratch15 said:
I have unlimited text so it really doesn't matter to me how many text messages I have in a month. Anybody?
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Just keep typing then - the messages get sent in 160 character blocks, and re-assembled into one big message by the recipient's phone.
Cheers,
Steve.
I guess what I'm asking is that when you go over 160 characters the phone splits the messages into two or however many messages. I've seen my woman type in messages that are well over 500 characters and when sent it shows up as one long message on her phone and on mine. Is there a way to increase the 160 character cut off so I can keep typing and send to other phones and they will see one long message? I'm sure shes getting charged for a couple message but the actually reading the message shows up as one long message.
Alright, thanks. Did not know that it does that so I end up erasing sentences and sending multiple messages. Sucks especially when you're fighting and trying to get a point across but now I know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Well if you send your message n the form of an MMS then you'll have 1000 letters you can use. And if there's no media n the message then' you might b able to send a longer message!!!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Hope that's helps your problem.. That's how I send a long message so it doesn't get broken up n2 separate message's.
I think its built into threading
I've seen my woman type in messages that are well over 500 characters and when sent it shows up as one long message on her phone and on mine.
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It happens when I text from my phone to anyone who has threading support for a windows mobile 6.1 phone
If you type above 160 characters in a regular SMS the person receiving it will get it as one message if they have a phone that supports it. If someone sends me a text with a Moto razr it will be split into 160 character messages instead of one long one
As Bajanman mms messages can hold more letters because it is data related unlike text messaging which rely on a back channel for cellular networks which costs the company 0 dollars to send as long as it is exactly 160 characters haha how ironic they charge us for something that was discovered to be free to the cell phone companies. Thank god for those unlimited texting plans that include the mms messages.
How come when the sms message gets too long, it will be converted to MMS? How do I solve this problem?
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How come when the sms message gets too long, it will be converted to MMS? How do I solve this problem?
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I think your confused.. Im going to assume your trying to send a picture and it says its too large so its converting it to an mms right?
Actually, he's right. On my G1 when I hit so many characters (usually by the end of the 3rd set of 160) it changes to MMS. The reason it does this is so the network can better handle the message. Sending as 3 seperate texts would take more time for the network to submit, store, and resend, than 1 MMS message would.
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How come when the sms message gets too long, it will be converted to MMS? How do I solve this problem?
I think your confused.. Im going to assume your trying to send a picture and it says its too large so its converting it to an mms right?
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No he isnt confused, when you sent a text that goes over a certain amount of characters it converts it into a mms, i dont think you can stop it from converting it but what you can do is send multiple text massages under the conversion limit
Oh okay, so there is nothing I can do about it?
Not really no. Just when you get to a certain limit and the counter appears showing how many characters you have left, just send it, and start on the next one
Send shorter messages, send an email or IM...
SMS converts to MMS when it gets 3 messages long..it has a character count so stop right before it converts and send it and continue in a new text
ok you want to rid this problem but i would like my tilt to do this aoutmaticly, any way?
Yeah, download HandCent SMS application. It will solve this application.