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Hi Team,
Opera mini 4 has made my mobile surfing heaven. Good bye PIE! Thank god.
However. I have two queries.
1. Anyone know how to get shot of the annoying "Allo Net Access" Prompt every time i run the midlet? In my Java prog under security I only get "Ask" and "Never Allow". Need an "Always Allow" option, but it's just not there.
2. How the hell do i directly link to a java program, without having to first boot up java, then choose the app? I know this will be possible, but haven't fathomed it yet. I'm wanting to stuff the link under the internet button so I can be rid of PIE for ever.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Matt
OM4 is a java midlet - you must access it through Java. You can make shortcut on Today screen.
As to the "allowing network access", after you have opened program, go to Bookmarks and then Opera Mini - you will find options there. But basically, you will always have to check allow access to network.
Both can be done.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
EDIT: I attached the files discussed in case you don't want to register.
Yes, both can be done. Here are the simplest instructions I put together a while back.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1270419
And yes, grab the fix.zip in the last post above and you can skip step 1 in my instructions in the linked thread...
The issue with the direct link works fine. But I have already tried to modifiy the selector.utf in both ways, by the fix and by using an hex editor.
But I still get this damn access questions.
I use a TyTNII with shipped HTC Rom with Opera Mini 4 final installed.
The description in your posted link is for OM beta2. May it be that modifications
are not suitable anymore for version 4 final?
A solution would be great.
Hans Olo
Edit: Ok, seen in the link of the last post from jomo25 that the version of jbed is the cause. Thanx for the info.
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This is all perrrrfect. Is there a way to change the Icon?
if you want to make a shortcut to launch Opera Mini directly:
Use a Notepad on your PC to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
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I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
Could not find suite s1_
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It might be s2, s3 or more - the s# changes based on how many other java apps you previously installed. Even if you had one and deleted it, it still counts as one. So try some more numbers.
Also Hans- make sure you are using JBED and it should work.
xTyTN said:
I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
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I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
enigmaneo said:
I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
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Thanks enigmaneo, it works for me, too
Also make sure you ALWAYS check out the Wiki - I've explained all these questions in my Opera Mini- and MIDlet-related tutorials & articles (see for example http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...n use Opera Mini as the system-level browser! - make sure you follow the links from the latter)
Thanks for this info... took me to "s7" until it worked. Thought I was doing something wrong...
UPDATE (11/30/2007): The link association problem has been fixed for WM6 in the meantime (see my last article on the association). This means you can already have the system invoke Opera Mini when you click a link in an e-mail / in any document.
Note that there are still newer and newer versions and optimizations (even faster and faster versions of the invoker script to minimize waiting for Opera Mini to be invoked) published in the Comments section of my related blog post; that is, make sure you also follow it.
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
Menneisyys said:
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
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I couldn't agree more. This little fix with turning off the notification to accept the session has made it a lot more usable to me. The browser is awesome and while it can be slow sometimes due to formatting the page, etc., I wouldn't use anything else. PIE simply falls flat in comparison.
I just really dig the screen scrolling with my fingernail (screen protector on there of course).
I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
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I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
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You, then, can just use the hack described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1666254&postcount=6 - it'll work. Also make sure you read the entire thread.
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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Did you also try the hacked JAR file I linked to? It WILL work if you deploy it locally and manually set the Blanket model.
Jar file
Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int-SIGNED.jar
How do you uninstall Opera 9.5? It doesn't appear on remove programs. Also it is now my default browser and there's no way to turn that off.
I'll see what I can find. In the meantime, should you ever want to install Opera 9.5 Beta in the future (after you flash a ROM for example), you should use Chanifire .cab here. As this allows you to uninstall it via "remove programs"
File Chanifire.cab not found, I have the same problem. There is someone that have unistall Opera Mobile 9.5 beta?
there was 2 versions
one where you cannot uninstall
one where you can
-both in the same opera 9.5 thread in develpment and hacking
but all u have to do is delete the opera files in windows folder(2) and go to appdata and delete that. There may be a few reg entries changed but nothing to worry about :]
I removed it by searching for opera after synchronization with the computer in the PDA windows - 4 files were found - these were deleted
How do you get into Setup on Opera9
Does anyone know how to get into the setup for Opera 9 - I somehow did it one time and now cannot figure out how.
I so far like this browser - way better than the mini! What is needed is for someone to tweak the chooser script and substitute mini for this one and that way we can choose between ie and O9 when a link is clicked.
There a a ton of files & registry entries you must delete manually.
I kinda like opera, (it's really 9.33 btw) but I hate how it hijacks html, htm, xml, etc...
What I did was use my latest sprite back up & did a partial restore. What you do is launch sprite, select restore, select the most recent backup file, uncheck everything *except the one check box for system settings located in the system data tab. Then restore only that infomation.
This will reset your recent registry & file association setting only. It will leave your programs & other data intact.
Then if you want to uninstall you only have to delete the 2 opera file in \Windows & the \Application Data\Opera9 files.
If you just delete these files you will have problems with file associations & that is a bit more difficult to fix unless you know the correct Executable & image files to point to.
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Does anyone know how to get into the setup for Opera 9 - I somehow did it one time and now cannot figure out how.
I so far like this browser - way better than the mini! What is needed is for someone to tweak the chooser script and substitute mini for this one and that way we can choose between ie and O9 when a link is clicked.
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This would only require a modification of the Mortscript file used for Opera mini.
alsarrag said:
I removed it by searching for opera after synchronization with the computer in the PDA windows - 4 files were found - these were deleted
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Okay, & now go open an xml or html file
I know that the mortscript needs to be changed.
My main question is how do you get into the setup for Opera 9 - does anyone know the way?
What do you mean by "setup"???
Are you talking about the direction as to where files & registry changes are made? Then Try Below:
If you're talking about regular Settings then you touch the lower right part of the screen, Press the arrow that pops up then scroll to settings.
ALSO: you can open up any of the .ini files located in \Application Data\Opera9\xxxx (xxx= any of the folders beyond) using notepad or with Resco's internal viewer. They can also be modified using your desktop notepad.
I figured it out, thanks - the problem is that on my Tilt, in Portrait mode the icon for setup is missing due to the large size of the icons on the bottom.
I was in landscape mode when I got it to work .
For now, I am using netfront 3.5 - not as nice looking but works better overall.
I am on the waiting list to try skyfire.
I feel like I should just go on vacation for a couple months (or sleep) and when I wakeup all these problems (drivers etc, better iphone like interface) will be solved!!
Does anyone know where we can make a formal complaint to opera about its hijacking our file associations? I refuse to use this software anymore until I know this will not happen. It has made for a long night of reg edits that didn't really get me anywhere. After manually configuring pie to be my default browser I still couldn't open .htm files by clickin' on the in my file browser, had to backup to yesterdays settings and I change many things on a daily basis, Well restoring settings is finished I have allot of work to redo...
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Does anyone know where we can make a formal complaint to opera about its hijacking our file associations? I refuse to use this software anymore until I know this will not happen. It has made for a long night of reg edits that didn't really get me anywhere. After manually configuring pie to be my default browser I still couldn't open .htm files by clickin' on the in my file browser, had to backup to yesterdays settings and I change many things on a daily basis, Well restoring settings is finished I have allot of work to redo...
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It's a leaked version. They even warned you.
This is not 9.5 beta please change the title.
Has anyone figured out how to restore file associations after installing this FUC... ****?
Thanks
How can be removed this version. I manage now to use version 8.65 but how can I regain those 8mb without hardreset?
BTW, I found that not too many people know or remember this, but you can type "Opera:Config" into the address bar to get into the advanced setup features for Opera.
How to Uninstall and remove opera
Just intall an uninstallable version, then remove it. I just did it and it worked fine.
zkush said:
Just intall an uninstallable version, then remove it. I just did it and it worked fine.
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Hi,
Where can I find uninstallable version?
BR
Asaf
So just deleting the files will do it? If I don't fix the registry will it ruin it? Which cabs are uninstallable?
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
gogol said:
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
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Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
Maybe it's just me but honestly i see no difference between 4.0 and 4.1...
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Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
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What's the importance of having a signed one? I've been using the unsigned 4.1 beta since it came out and I've had no problems.
ProudPop83 said:
Maybe it's just me but honestly i see no difference between 4.0 and 4.1...
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There are several differences. They have them listed somewhere... The main one I noticed in my short time with it was the inclusion of a "synchronize" feature, which syncs bookmarks and some other stuff with their servers. If you use the new beta for desktop machines, it syncs with their servers, too, so your PC Opera and Opera Mobile/Mini are up to date with eachother. Kinda like Microsoft Exchange for web browsing stuff.
Yeah but i dont really use that feature. The one thing i can say is I like the search in page feature.
gogol said:
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
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Upgraded this morning. Upgrade process was fine...kept bookmarks and settings....I see no problems.
.....and there are differences in 4.1.....most notably, being able to download files without calling upon IE......and it's also supposedly up to 50% faster (which basically just means it could be 1% faster on 99% of the web, but if it happens to be 50% on the other 1%.....then it is "up to" 50% faster in general).
fb401 said:
What's the importance of having a signed one? I've been using the unsigned 4.1 beta since it came out and I've had no problems.
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unassigned asks you everytime when you want to go online for net access. Plus whenever you want to save something to file system using browser it asks you permission to access file system.
Signed version only asks these questions at install and never after that
Upgraded from 4.0 to 4.1 without any problems, kept all my settings and bookmarks also. Did find it took a little while to upgrade so be patient
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Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
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They do, they just messed up the links so you might have to click around, unless they fixed that problem.
can it do copy and paste?
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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The startoperamini thread includes a mortscript which launches opera for you in one step..no need to open java manually first. You can however create a shorcut that calls the java exe and tells it what midlet to launch...should be more info available via search.
The script is alot easier.
Which version of opera 4.1 is better for the Tilt?
I looked at the available HTC models, the Tilt doesn't appear there.
Thank you.
wisniak said:
I looked at the available HTC models, the Tilt doesn't appear there.
Thank you.
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Whats your point? Did you try it? Hell half of us have indicated we are running it and our signature shows a tilt.
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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You cannot start it outside of Java but at least you can start it with one click. Just create a link file and put:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
in it (where 28 is the number of characters and 0 the number of the installed java app.... so they may vary)
put this file in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and there you go.
No need for an extra step.
greetz
I tried the previous(generic) version
And it didn't work.
I asked the question because supposedly there're 2 versions, one is a signed version, the other unsigned.
Further, when I had my HW6910, there were a high-memory version and a "regular" version, and the "regular" version didn't work.
Here is the procedure that I followed for my 4.0 (I also upgraded to 4.1 last evening, everthing is OK). The procedure below works fine, no need to have MortScript and such.
Then you can replace the IE button with that shortcut!
However, I have not tried the selector.utf trick yet (again, it works with the 4.0). I use the "Fix.exe" (attached) to remove that security prompts. Just copy the selector.utf in the same folder, and run that Fix.exe (Make a backup of the utf file first!).
Here is the reference:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
Making a direct shortcut to Opera Mini (or any other Java Midlet)
Since Opera Mini is a Java Midlet application, one annoying aspect is that to run Opera Mini, you must first run the Java Midlet, tap on the "Applications" list item, then tap on the "Opera Mini 4 beta" item. Luckily, some industrious users out there have figured out how to create a shortcut that launches Opera Mini (or any other Java app) directly. Assuming you haven't installed any other Java apps, you need to create a shortcut file (e.g., opera.lnk) pointing to ("\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s1_), or ("\windows\jbed.exe -run s1_"), if using Jbed instead.
The magic portion is the number after the the letter "s" in the shortcut target. This is the list position of the Java Midlet in the Jeodek/Jbed application list. If you install Jeodek/Jbed as a fresh install (non Mogul users), and then directly install Opera Mini, just use the number "0" to refer to Opera Mini ("\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_"). If you install another MIDlet (after Opera Mini), its index will become 1, then the next installed Midlet will have an index of 2, and so on.
Locating the number that corresponds to a Java Midlet
To find which number corresponds to an installed Java Midlet, navigate to the (windows\appdb) folder. There should be some .jar files in there, with one of them being the Opera Mini jar file (or other Java Midlet you wish to target). Whatever the number is after the letter "s", is the number needed in your shortcut link. Only the first part of the file name of the midlet is needed, so lets say, in the appdb folder, you have "s0_suite.jar", for your shortcut target, leave out the suite.jar, and only put "s0_", so your shortcut should point to ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_), NOT ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_suite.jar). A pre-made shortcut file can be found here.
Creating/Modifying Shortcuts on Your Mobile Device
The following lists a couple of ways to create edit/create shortcuts with parameters on a mobile device.
1.) Use the excellent shareware application, Resco Explorer (the method I personally use, and find the easiest).
2.) Create the shortcut manually using any text editor. Shortcuts have the file extension ".lnk". So, for example, lets create a file in a text editor, and save it with the file name OperaMini.lnk, the contents of the file should look similar to this :
Code:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
28# means that the shortcut target, including the parameter (-run s0_) is 28 characters.
Note: A forum user has reported that the freeware application, Total Commander does NOT create the shortcut properly.
After you have created/named the shortcut, all that is left to do is to place the shortcut file in your start menu (\windows\start menu\programs) folder.
Skipping the Connection Permission Prompt (Only applies to JBed)
One of the only negatives of using Jbed, over Jeodek, used to be that any time an application wanted to access to the Internet, Jbed would ask twice if you want to allow the action. It will also forget this permission next time you ran the application, so you would have to give permission every time you ran a Midlet that tried to access the Internet. Thanks to forum user g-funkster, a work around for this annoyance has been found!
1.) Copy the file \windows\appdb\selector.utf to your PC (make sure backup this file first in case something goes wrong!)
2.) Remove read-only attribute
3.) Open the file with a hex editor, and find the line
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
Replace the text untrusted with the text tckmax. Add space characters between the x (in tckmax) and the comma (otherwise connection warnings or a nullpointerexception error may occur). The above line may appear multiple times in the "selector.utf" file, each corresponds to a different Java Midlet you have installed in JBed.
If hex editing is too blackhat for you, g-funkster has created a desktop application that can do this for you automatically! You can find it here.
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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Just had a look at the Opera Mini website linked above. Does anyone know if the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager supports this JSR-75 protocol? At the moment, I am using the Mortscript method to allow opening of links in emails etc in Opera, but direct downloads through Opera sounds very good!
Yes, it does.
fisha21 said:
Just had a look at the Opera Mini website linked above. Does anyone know if the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager supports this JSR-75 protocol? At the moment, I am using the Mortscript method to allow opening of links in emails etc in Opera, but direct downloads through Opera sounds very good!
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Hi! Would one of you mind checking a reg entry for a poor Titan user? I'm in the states and so of course will not have access to a diamond for a bit yet. I am trying to get Opera to open up when I click on a favorite within file explorer. This will allow me to continue to use activesync to back up my bookmarks, since I cannot install desktop opera on my work computer.
Anyway, I have opera doing everything except for this, and as I understand it, Diamonds have Opera installed as the default browser. Could some kind soul either export or cut and paste the contents of the HKCR/.url key?
Thanks!
Hi All,
I was told by an AT&T guy that you could change the opera config file to make opera on the Fuze act a fully functional browser. The problem I am having is the opera will take to me to the mobile version of websites and I don't want that. I have tried changing the user agent to 2 and 3, but that didn't correct the problem. Does anyone know what has to be changed to make this work?
thanks
billf.
A couple of other things to do in the opera:config page. First, you want to change the "Custom User-Agent" in "user prefs" to "Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 6.0;en)" (although I've also heard that just deleting that string works, too, but I haven't tried it).
The other thing is to delete the HTTP and HTTPS server names in the "Proxy" section.
These changes will get you to the normal version of most sites (although there are some sites that still redirect to wap/mobile versions -- I don't use any of these on a regular basis, but nba.com is one such).
You can upgrade to build 2745
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252&highlight=opera+2745&page=15
I followed all of the tips and some of the sites still wouldn't go, no matter what changes I made. I followed owziee's directions in the link above exactly and upgraded to the 2745 build that herg posted in that same thread. Works perfectly and I can now go to desktop sites. You do have to make the additional changes, can't just run the cab or it doesn't fit vga and zoom properly, but with my low to intermediate skills it wasn't a problem to do.
I can't stand this Opera Mobile. Web pages are constantly changing size on my, and I can't zoom in or out. Is there any way to change the default browser to IE? IE works much better for me.
i didnt like opera at first but its actually way better then PIE. go to the opera settings and there is a button that says "mobile view" uncheck it and all websites are not in mobile view.
also. im sure u know. but for zooming u can run your finger in a circle clockwise or counterclockwise on the button to make it zoom in or out...or u can double tap the touch screen for it to zoom in.
all you gotta do is add to the end of your web address is "index.html". ex. espn.com/index.html
Works perfectly
You have to disable your proxy for your data connection or it will go to the mobile version as well. That is in connection settings. Uncheck the box that says this connection uses a proxy. I was getting all mobile sites until I did that.
waste of time
screw all that programming - just install skyfire and set it as your default browser through itself and if that doesnt work, install total commander and change the internet file - google it and you'll find simple instructions
Hi,
Here's the link to the Opera Mobile thread; have a look at the last 25 or so posts in the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
In a nutshell, stock ROM's receive many post-configuration changes via .PROVXML; this means that the experience of applications are changed by the carrier to suit their requirements.
There are a few adjustments that are required in order to achive the experience you're after ... the link will help you achieve your desired configuration and saves me repeating all the same info here.