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PointUI - New User Interface

Two days ago I downloaded a new interface which seems to be working great on the AT&T Tilt... Was just curious if anyone else has any experience with it? I think they released it on the 31st..
www.pointui.com

Hi,look at this post,i don't use it,but people give their opinion.

I have been trying it today. I actually like it in terms of turning the device into a dumbphone.
It disables the hardware buttons, but a quick press of the red end call key and you are back to the today screen and can use hardware buttons.

PointUI
I have just started using it, but on a VGA Exec. It does not support VGA but still works (everything is smaller than it should be). If they release a VGA version I will definitly use it as even with on the VGA screen it is fantastic.
I was looking for a touch style interface and have used HTC cube (various versions), and also the Ipod style inteface. All of them are close but not quite there.
For me, PointUI is there....It is the best I have seen and possibly because it is not emulating other devices it realy hits the mark.
I will install on my wizard for the moment until they release the VGA version.
As a last note does anyone know if you can drop the resolution on a EXEC? Sound a dumb question but I would like to use PointUI as it should be.

Tried it right when it was released on my Tilt. My initial impressions:
1. Lots of potential.
2. Very slick animation
3. Needs quite a bit of work and polishing before I consider using it.
3a. Did not match my theme, so odd color issues on the top bar.
3b. Needs to be cusomizable to use my preferred programs.
3c. I like my today page as i have it setup that shows all the info I need in one place. PointUI is nice eye candy, but does not give me that one stop shop.\

I don't know I may be the odd one out as everyone seems to like it so much.
I somehow am of the opinion that a combination of SPB PocketPlus and SPB Mobile Shell is a far more efficient and effective interface. Though just my opinion

HTC diamond home plugin

Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot

search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory

chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...

crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier

looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...

Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.

I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.

I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.

someone1234 said:
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
adamz said:
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
slickvic said:
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.

so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up

I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.

I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?

I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.

Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418

Diamond Questions

I have been keeping an eye on the Diamond, as I would like to upgrade to it when it becomes available in the US. Since you guys over in Europe and Asian have been tweaking it, I have two questions.
Has someone posted a YouTube video of how much faster the TF3D UI runs when the tweaks posted here are done? From videos I've seen, the retail stock unit is snappy enough, but there's still a tiny bit of lag.
Another concern I have is that when the virtual keyboard is brought up, it takes up pretty much all of the screen. Has that affected how you guys do texting and e-mailing? I've seen that when the keyboard's displayed while typing in system text fields, it'll cover the field completely and you can't scroll the screen to see what you're typing.

Even though I don't have a youtube video for you I 'll tell you that the TF3D runs pretty smoothly after the tweaking but especially if you use one of the cooked roms. I am personally using the "panosha light II ROM" and the TF3D runs more than smoothly without any lag (and FYI this ROM does not include most of the tweaks that are supposed to speed up the device).
Regarding the second question, the included diamond keyboards indeed cover up most of the screen. I can see that being a problem for some but for me personally it isnt' any. In any case you always have the options of adding any throd party keyboards of your own taste and likes.

Thanks for the information! Makes me feel a lot more confident in the Diamond now.
Seeing as I won't be able to get to the Diamond until after the New Year, I'll have to see what great new things are cooked up by then.
If anyone else is willing to put up a YouTube video of a cooked or tweaked TF3D, I'd really appreciate it.

Today Widgets for Kaiser?

Ok so this is actually my first time posting in a long time. i do regularly flash the great roms on this site and use the cabs that are presented here. wonderful work guys.
ok so my question is, is it possible for someone to write some software for some widgets like the ones on the new Samsung I900? I know that it runs off WM 6.1 Pro. But is the today screen widget system a flash program? or built in somehow? it would be so cool to have something like that on the today screen of my 6.0 kaiser. ive seen so many different UIs its hard to name them all. they are all pretty cool in their own ways, but if someone made this as a cab that would be awsome. i know someone will be dumping the I900 rom sometime soon. hopefully!!!!
thanks,
vince

i dont get it, so nobody thinks this is possible? any takers....bueller...bueller...

Two suggestions...
Link to what you're asking about so someone can possibly make comparisons.
Don't be annoying/insulting.

Links to view widgets on OMNIA i900
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i8NfY_HXas

riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.

tazbo28 said:
riiight... i wasnt trying to be annoying or insulting. i figured a quick search on youtube wuold have informed anyone about the phone in question. seems simple enough to me.
well. the Omnia I900 is a new phone that is being put out by Samsung. If you watch the video posted above youll see the widgets that i am talking about. they seem to be flash based. sort of like the ones in vista. i wonder about how much memory they take up. the phone has some other cool things as well like the screen rotate transitions. i love the one from this device. hope some programmers here can chime in on this one.
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Apart from the dragging and dropping of widget from the sidebar, everything else is able to be reproduced on wm6 using various methods. rlToday and MobileShell are starting points. The i900 is not that great of a phone.

I figured out the Widgets app is called TouchWiz. i was wondering if anyone has been able to make a cab out of this? i would probably use it if it were available. ive tried a lot of shells, launchers, plugins, they are all cool but none seem to be the end all OS-replacement. by that i mean that they cant do everything yet. some will do some things good and others do other things good, but none do everything good! i know its a lot to ask for from just a shell, but if the next iphone (not 3g version) is any good with a 3rd party following thats growing, i might jump on. its gonna take some great plugs and an awsome os update to keep me on the windows mobile wagon.
i really wish they would start to try and move away from teh stylus usage on their future OS versions. like the Omnia. this would make alot of people happier i think.

snachez said:
The i900 is not that great of a phone.
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really, why?

badaas said:
really, why?
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-Price - Currently over $1,100 in Australia vs. TyTnII free on most caps. Ouch.
- Poor finger menu navigation. Like most WM6 devices, the underlying OS is designed for stylus use, not thumbs. Comes with a stylus but no slot to put it in the phone.
- No physical keyboard, and dodgy software keyboard which cover 3/4 of the screen making it impossible to see what your typing underneath.
- Haptic touch is cool, but the glossy body is really bad (good?) at collecting fingerprint smudges. Carrying a cloth all day is pretty lame too.
- Battery life is ok, except when using GPS or 3G/HSDPA- reports of going from 100% to fully flat in under 40 mins while using satnav & about 3 hrs talk time on 3G. Cant personally verify this because I only played in-store for about half an hour - google around though..
- Can't use it as a bluetooth HSDPA modem for laptop/PC. Even my 5 yr old nokia can do this..
- Annoying automatic screen orientation, way too sensitive when you moving your arm around and the screen starts freaking out and spinning.
- Reports of random shut downs. Cnet reviewer had 2 in 3 days & pressing the Power On button does not help - have to physically remove and re-insert the battery to reset it.
- Useless "widgets" - Stock ROM does not include Calendar, Messaging or mainstream apps. Like the nazi-esque licensing for the iphone app store, you're not allowed to add / develop non-Samsung-approved apps. So for the time being you have a fancy looking but useless desktop. Standard WM6 "today" screen & various plugins is much much more usable.
Bottom line is its fashion over function. Some will love it, but there's too much iPhone mentality going on to even consider it for folks like me (I like to tweak and fiddle with everything to make a system that suits me perfectly - way better phones already out that can do this easier (TyTnII, imho) )
I do like the camera though, and the weird not-quite-VGA 240x400 resolution.

I agree. I am not interested in flashing a new ROM but would rather customize a few features usings cabs and so forth.
There are some widgets that I would like to use myself. This is very similar to the Vista sidebar that I have become familiar with and appreciate now.

Hi,
i found the related widgets, on rapidshare or megauload.it works fine
on a Qvga pda, but on mine (I780) i have resolution problems
Bye
Herc.

yeah i found a thread in the general-hacking and development section where someone has already made a cab for the widgets. after installing you have to reset your device for them to appear in the today plugins selection. the widgets are really cool but not being able to edit the apps they control at the moment kinda sucks. some of them dont do anything because they are supposed to be connected to programs in the Omnia I900

Buying a Tytn II today

Hi to all,i'm looking for a qwerty-keyboard phone for my gf,and i can't afford umts Blackberry (she has h3g sim),is this phone a good choice,even if it's really old?
I've found it for 90 €,it seems good to me,but i don't want to buy a too slow device.
I'm used to HTC Diamond,which has slightly better hardware but suffers using 3d manila and stuff "overrated" for its hw (despite the claims they sold it with in the past ).
Is Tytn II still good for 2d stuff and normal everyday usage?
I even see it has a dedicated android section,so maybe its better than diamond at handling it,this would be sweet too
Let me know,thanks for help

The build quility is superb, an incredible bit of engineering.
Graphics can be slow for heavy gamers or GPS applications. I really liked mine, only moved on as had it stolen.
I was on a 6.1 standard ROM & it ran very well for all basic phone tasks such as emailing sms/mms ect & handling office docs was good too.
I used it as a modem for notebook internet too. Wifi & BT worked ok & keyboard plus d-pad were nice in function.
Only downside is the weight of the device but for the price today it is incredible value for money, you will only find a few devices that feel such quality in build.
The tilt screen is very cool & they do look good sat on a desk in full tilt.
If she likes the look of it get it, plenty of tweaks & support for the Kaiser so should still be a fun device.

Not so good that it suffers gps apps,but i guess its normal...
And is it good to use limiting touchscreen inputs (she hates touchscreen )?
I mean,except for opening start menu,is it usable with hardware buttons,more than touch?

Yes it is very good in terms of button function.
I improved button function by using mortscripts that would change button function pending on active window & reg keys such as headphones connected, active sync connect ect.
Even the screen is quite good when you need to use it.
Touchscreens are over rated in usability, the touch diamond 2 would of been fantastic if it had a small joy stick d-pad in the centre under buttons but no you have to struggle with that ****e zoom bar touch panel which only has movement in 2 directions.
Tactile feel of buttons can never be replaced by a screen period.
I could do functions on my Kaiser without looking at it as buttons could act like brale.
The slow graphic issue didn't seem that bad to me, I used mapking & Garmin with no issues & played games such as Duke Nukem without issues.
I'm on a touch pro at the moment, I like it but miss the solid build of the Kaiser, it feels unbreakable ...

You could also look at the HTC S710 !

Just bought for my gf...its ****ing awesome,compared to my plastic-breaking-with-breath diamond :asd:
Just waiting to learn how to unlock

Speaking about cooked rom,any suggestion about a speedy rom (not necessarily manila,it just should be "handy to use" and light)?
And should i try android (aka is it fast and functional enough?)
Thanks everybody
edit: oh,and how can i check if it has hardspl installed already?

I was on latest standard rom with graphics driver from HTCCA.
I would start off on a standard ROM unless you spot an interesting custom ROM which has solid feedback.
To view HardSPL version go to bootloader mode:
-Enter Bootloader mode: Hold Camera + Power buttons together and reset with stylus
(exit bootloader by pressing soft reset button)
-HardReset: Hold Talk and End soft key - Reset :When prompted push Green Talk Button
This is the unlock tools I used: (Not sure if supports 3 network !)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3432892&postcount=10

Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?

°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Go to the ROM development section, read through the FAQ links. That will give you some basic ideas what is available, etc.
If you want great batt life with plenty of memory, use WM 6.1, not 6.5 ..
To know which ROM is best, read through the last pages (10 - 20)of each thread, the feedback from the users will give you overall view. Why I suggested 10-20, because for old ROM that chef has left, recent posts are usually useless, repeating old questions again and again.

°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Link below:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/download/HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab
It is un-installable & should be no problem.
Make sure that stock 6.1 is the latest release. I can dig out a serial if you require ROM downloading direct from htc website.

how can i find if it's the latest release (i thought there was just one)?
I should have a serial number on mine too,for downloading,or am i missing something?
Thanks for all your help,anyway
@anagarika:wm 6.1 is for sure, even my diamond suffers from 6.5
ps:i entered bootloader,it says SPL 3.29,i guess it's still the original one

Latest HTC generic ROM is:
HTC TyTN II_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
You can see ROM version in Settings device information.
If your device is branded your serial will not work with HTC website, so you will need a serial of a generic HTC kaiser ;-)
Your SPL is original. Installing the hardSPL is easy & unlocking can be quite straight forward but may require downgrading to wm6 ROM to unlock & then upgrading to a 6.1 rom of your choice.

My rom is 3.29.408.o ITA,other stuff is lke you posted...i guess it's the latest one then

Newest Italian is:
_HTC TyTN II_WM6.1_MR2_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_ITA_3.29.408.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.zip
So looks like your on newest ROM.

I already had d3d drivers ("previous version will be uninstalled")...all these concerns for nothing
Anyway i installed spb mobile shell 3.5,themed,and it's a good mid-point between eyecandy and memory usage...
I only have some hang-ups when i make some operations too fast (e.g. i open and reclose very fast an app),making me have to reboot the phone...but it only happens sometimes,and i guess it's related to mobile shell

I tried to install updated camera app yesterday (nadavi 5.xx) but then camera screen turned black,so i uninstalled.
I installed htc album too,but its menus are blank (i can select them with left and right keys,but nothing's written down)...do you know which version of these packages works for sure?
edit:i fixed camera problem,but album issue is still there,although i tried two different versions

Mmm don't know which HTC album viewer is your best option, I used Resco Photo viewer Pro as far surpases the HTC app.

Tried it,perfect program
Thanks a lot (i think there's no way to oc the cpu a little,right?)

Nope, just don't use CPU & graphic heavy software. Mine run sweet & was very usable.