Battery problems - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading

I haven't used my himalaya for a while. When i saw there was wm 6.5 available, i grabbed my himalaya. In wm 6.1 my phone said that the battery was empty. So it's been in the dock for a whole night, but it was still empty.
I was a little bit hasty to see wm 6.5, so i flashed it anyway. Now in 6.5 my battery is not recognised. (It says Main battery: Unknown). The battery is a half year old. Does somebody know what might have happened or how i can recharge my battery again?
I allready pulled it out and plugged it in again, but it didn't help. Same as a hard and a soft reset.
Any advise is welcome.

kareltie said:
I haven't used my himalaya for a while. When i saw there was wm 6.5 available, i grabbed my himalaya. In wm 6.1 my phone said that the battery was empty. So it's been in the dock for a whole night, but it was still empty.
I was a little bit hasty to see wm 6.5, so i flashed it anyway. Now in 6.5 my battery is not recognised. (It says Main battery: Unknown). The battery is a half year old. Does somebody know what might have happened or how i can recharge my battery again?
I allready pulled it out and plugged it in again, but it didn't help. Same as a hard and a soft reset.
Any advise is welcome.
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i think what you need to do is to get your battery off your himalaya and have it shocked using a tester or some ac/dc adapter. your battery is dead and for it to be alive again it needs a little burst of energy. i hope it helps...

If you leave lithium ion batteries discharged for a long time they ususally die out and will be unusable. Buy a new battery.

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kareltie said:
I haven't used my himalaya for a while. When i saw there was wm 6.5 available, i grabbed my himalaya. In wm 6.1 my phone said that the battery was empty. So it's been in the dock for a whole night, but it was still empty.
I was a little bit hasty to see wm 6.5, so i flashed it anyway. Now in 6.5 my battery is not recognised. (It says Main battery: Unknown). The battery is a half year old. Does somebody know what might have happened or how i can recharge my battery again?
I allready pulled it out and plugged it in again, but it didn't help. Same as a hard and a soft reset.
Any advise is welcome.
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sorry, i'v got confused, hence, this clarification..
did you mean you were able to use your old batt to run your BA while in 6.1 though its empty and, thereafter, while still empty, you flashed your BA with 6.5? or it is not totally empty at all when you did it?
otherwise stated, could it be the battery indicator *whether empty/unknown" that you wanted to resolve? .. regards

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Problem with the new rom

Hi
i installed the new rom
RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
ok and it seems fine other then one thing
dont know why but i m noticing that there is a lot of battery being used
so i need advice or fix or something that will be helpful for me to stop this draining of the battery without any reason before the install of this rom my phone never used to eat this much of battery
Can some please help
I have a Tmobile MDA (USA)
I think I know what's happening. One of the cabs in the extended ROM is responsible; perhaps the AKU 2.0 (push email). I've installed the extended rom unlock tool on the ftp and installed only the cabs that I need from the extended rom. If it's one of those, I'll post back and let you know. I do not use push email, so the AKU 2.0 ROM is not one of them.
Anyone else?
Sure thanks alot
and please when u will tell me can you tell me the details of how to go about making changes so that i can do to help my mda`s battery life coz i new to all this rom and stuff
Thanks a million
After playing with this thing this afternoon...I've come to the conclusion that when you do a soft reset while the device is plugged in, the battery shows up 100% charged. It rapidly declines to the actual level and then slows down its discharge to acceptable levels. The best way to get an actual reading is to turn off the device using the software reset (hold down the power button until the device gives the option to power off) and then put it on the charger for a few hours. I think that actually gives it a full charge and you'll be set. The new battery driver (along with that bloody battery icon in the today bar) is not the best thing is it?
hey i will surely try this and once i m done doing it
i will get back to you with the results
Thanks for all your help buddy
Yes, great, that other peoples noticed this thing too...
After installing some file from the ex_rom, my battery doesn´t show the right position...
I made the updates a few days before and the problem surely came with one of this ne cab-files...
Any possibility to remove this files, cause i don´t need AKU2, yet....
Thanks a lot...
*****EDIT*****
I removed the Tool Batti from the system...
seems to work much better now....

Battery lifetime

Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
matkinson said:
Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
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mine is significantly shorter than when i was in WM5. but not as bad as yours. try this. go back to WM5 and see if it still gives u 2days.. then go back to wm6. then if u still get 12hours max with the same usage as you have with wm5.. then it's the ROM.
if you get poor batt life even going back to wm5, then maybe it's the battery. consider borrowing a battery, or buying a new one..
Are you sure your battery can stand only 12 hours ? it's too short. Try to reduce thre brightnes to save the power of your battery.
Ta for the suggestions.
I already have my screen brightness adjusted, and auto power off as appropriate.
Battery is the original, but behaved with 2003. I have two Himalyas (bought the second off a colleague for £40 as nervous about playing with ROMs!) and so two original batteries; both behave the same. I also inherited an aftermarket battery which is truly awful - goes haywire after down to ~45%.
I did try WM5 for a while, and don't recall the battery problem. As I have two devices, switching one to WM5 and comparing is a good suggestion. Unfortunately I need one application (NotifyLink - see thread in the WM5 forum) that I've not been able to get working in WM5, and *does* work on WM6, so if I need to go back it's WM2003SE for me :-(
Before trying to flash back to an older rom, consider some other battery saving options.
Lowering your screen brightness was a good idea, which you have already done.
Some other things to consider:
Turn off "Receive All Incoming Beams" until you actual need to receive something via bluetooth/IR.
Turn off bluetooth if you are not using it (this used to be a massive drain on my himalaya)
After closing a program, go to the task manager and make sure it is actually closed. THe cross in the top right hand corner usually just shrinks things. You can buy/download applications I believe that will actually properly close a program. I've on occasion had 8 progrms running at the same time simutaneously before closing them.
Make sure the terminals on your battery and himalaya are clean (where the battery connects) and also test to make sure your battery is seated correctly.
Change the timeout for your device (IE how long it will wait before turning its backlight off, and then turning off in full). Mine is set to 1 minute. You can set it as low as 30 seconds but I didn't like this as I felt it would wear out the backlight.
If I think of more I'll come back and write them. Perhaps someone has already made a "Save battery power" post. If not, perhaps someone will make one and the mods can sticky it.
cheers
The battery is geting life expired. Better buy a new battery..
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
If I've besmirched either of the ROMs published on this forum then please except my apologies - I discovered that my battery problems are NOT due to the ROM. But nor are they due to my battery!
Re-Flashing (or hard reset with reboot options) gives me good/normal battery usage. I therefore figured that my problems _must_ be due to an installed application. It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink, which I unfortunately need to install in order to receive my corporate email. With this present I lose approx. 6% battery power every hour(!), even with GPRS disconnected and the application not checking with its server. Just installing (even before configuring) the application I get this immense battery drain. Weird. Removing my SIM card doesn't help. Neither does uninstalling; I need to hard reset before battery consumption returns to being acceptable.
As I need this application it looks like I need to accept the need to top-up every evening.
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
i recently replaced my battery for a new one. it was near 3 yrs old and it's battery life was steadily decreasing lately, shutting off just about 6 hours after a full charge! when i bought a new one it shuts of at 5% on the same rom and operating conditions, nice huh!?. so as a rule of hand slash of around 15-25% of battery life for every year of use. better yet save up for a new one while your on it .
matkinson said:
It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink,
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Good job. As you can see on notifylink's newsletter they're very specific on devices fit for the job, for example not just any Wing, but TMobile Wing...
http://www.notifycorp.com/intheloop/index.htm
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
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As far as I know all you need for direct push is correct settings of exchange server and a device with WM5 or WM6 with built in MSFP or WM2003 with Global Contact Access installed. MSFP should probably be in your WM6 ROM unless your cook cut it out. In that case you can either try to find it in the ROM kitches of recent HTC devices and see what happens if you cook it into Hima ROM yourself. I don't know which file(s) you should use. Or you can download GCA and see if it works on your WM6 Hima.
Maggy - Many thanks for the response. Yes NotifyLink do recommend specific devices, but I've no idea if their battery consumption is any better. I do see from various postings here in my company that I'm not alone with problems - generally advice is to just check with the server less frequently, etc, which doesn't solve my issue. I'm going to have to live with this inefficiency for the moment.
As regards DP, I'll await with interest my company's progress in moving to this technology. Thanks for your information!
I have similar problem since WM6 Tofclock ROM is installed - getting just about 24hours battery life....Although the battery is quite old the Rom has definetly some incidence on this --- I have installed batti 2.1 following some threads i found here, hope it will help
Actually, I found out the same strange thing, while I was trying to solve another problem. I changed almost all of the OS/Radio Roms combinations, and with WM2003 the battery time when the phone is in stand-by is significally greater than with the WM2005 or 2006 Rom (days vs hours)... and this happens with every radio rom.

the battery problem that wm6 xda2 shuts down at 40% battery also exist in wm2003se

can any body kind enough to tell that the battery problem that wm6 xda2 shuts down at 40% battery also exist in wm2003se?, i want to go back to wm2003se, can anybody here tells me the difeerence between wm2003se and wm6.thanks bye
fast666 said:
can any body kind enough to tell that the battery problem that wm6 xda2 shuts down at 40% battery also exist in wm2003se?, i want to go back to wm2003se, can anybody here tells me the difeerence between wm2003se and wm6.thanks bye
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what rom are you using?
iam usinf tofclock wm6 radio 1.17
iam usinf tofclock wm6 radio 1.17
There is a thread here in the hima wm6 board about battery problems.
WM6 is not the problem, bad batteries are.
Had the same problem earlier. A change of battery had solved it.
is this problem solved????
is it the new battery the solution?
i have the same problem, xda shuts down at 50% battery status..
tnx
Maggy is right
Maggy said:
There is a thread here in the hima wm6 board about battery problems.
WM6 is not the problem, bad batteries are.
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Try #search this forum# in the Hima WM6 board with 'Battery problems'.
It´s a well known problem.
Then try search function to find 'batti-2.1(-de).ARM.cab' or the working version for your device if you don't use a Hima and give it a try.
Your battery won't work better, but you can see the bat level (with percent indicators, if you want) nearly anytime and you can be warned early enough optical by color change or with acoustic alarm.
Whatever you do: Think of a new battery soon. It´s the best you can do for your amazing device.
Good luck
Heroes never die - Himas live 4ever
WM2003--WM2k3SE--WM5--WM6--WM6.1--WM7?

question on wm6 and battery

Hi all,
I have installed the WM6.1 ROM 6.1.2a16CS by C. Shekhar on my qtek2020.
It is very cool and gave a second life to my qtek. I am just a bit surprised by the duration of the main battery. It is running out of bat very fast.
As I haven't used my qtek for month before installing the new ROM, I can't tell if it's a battery problem or because this new ROM is consuming more resources. Have you noticed such behavior on your machines?
For further info I am not using my qtek as cell phone. I am thinking about using it back as a phone, but I have first to fix this battery aspect.
Moreover I have read s/t about a battery fix, that I haven't installed yet. Can s/o tell me more about this fix and what it is doing?
Anyway this ROM is a great one.
Thx for your answers
Marc
I dont know about the battery fix but i have never installed any sort of fix like that either for wm5 or wm6.x. Are you sure there isnt some background process that keeps on continuously running? It could be a battery problem if the battery had discharged alot during the non-operational period. I changed by himas battery about 7-8months back because the last battery had gotten abit too old and was discharging very quickly.
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registery fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
well, WM5 and WM6.x IMHO are battery consuming ROMs, i can attest to this,
experiment no. 1:
same xda, same battery (1200mAH original battery)
-with WM2003SE at normal use, XDA turns off approx after 36 hrs of use including standby.
-with WM5 and WM6.x, XDA turns off WM5-18hrs, WM6.x-25hrs of use including standby.
experiment no. 2:
two xda, different OS, both with brand new 3600mAH extended life battery.
in 1 day (at heavy texting use from 7am to 7pm):
WM2003SE XDA2 - battery from 100% to 58%
WM6.X XDA2 - battery from 100% to 35%
possible explanation:
WM6.x (WM5) uses more CPU time and Memory resources, plus it probably uses more power in maintaining the persistent storage, hard and soft reset persistent memory.
MODS PLEASE REMOVE THIS POST
ather90 said:
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registry fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
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Ather, is this fix already in all/most recent releases? If not, can you give us a link? Never heard of it.
I have no battery problems, quite the contrary. My battery life is amazing me. To be honest I tweaked a lot when I started using WM6.x, too much to remember, too much to tell you.
but some parts:
I don't need 24/7 phone connection, Phone Alarm takes care of this for me
Use a bare minimum of today plug-ins
Avoid animations
Close programs except when you seriously do need them in the background
Heya Maggy...its long time since i saw u here.. think maybe month
welcome back ny ways
well that fix was in the Imate website..i have it
having some problem attaching on xda : http://www.2shared.com/file/3591354/873d3f18/SD-Card_Patch.html

i got a strange thing in my kaiser . batter jumpes

well i just instlled the shifu rom . great rom in windows mobile 6.1
but since i installed it i have notices that my battery goes really fast down but after soft reset its jumps .
for exsample if i used the phone and reached 50% after reset its goes up to 75
wierd and i dont know what to do
what can i do??
maybe because you just flashed the rom?
seriously... the last 6.5 rom I flashed, my battery drained from 100% down to 25% is less than 24hrs... but then 25% down to 5% took another 24 hours.
after a couple days, the meter is "steady"
I also had the issue of battery meter jumping up after a soft reset, but the issue cleared after a couple days of use.
ok thanks mate i will check it out
lets see more cuople days
RFOX100 said:
well i just instlled the shifu rom . great rom in windows mobile 6.1
but since i installed it i have notices that my battery goes really fast down but after soft reset its jumps .
for exsample if i used the phone and reached 50% after reset its goes up to 75
wierd and i dont know what to do
what can i do??
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Is it shifu's 6.1 or 6.5. If 6.5, always flash stock rom first or else weird things happen. If 6.1, and it persists, try installing a new battery indicator.
its rom 6.1 which battery indicator do you suject?

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