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[Q]What Do You Want In A ROM?

I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)

1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.

1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip

basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)

Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had

gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time

achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.

Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.

Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.

I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.

Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.

Bxsteez said:
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO

I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.

Amplificator said:
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.

I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.

I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone

As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.

basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)

I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!

You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.

HTC Pure freezes when answering incoming call, multiple versions used, multiple ROMS

This is an offshoot of this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4922790#post4922790
I, as well as others seem to be having this problem. It affects 75% or more of my incoming calls making my phone practically unusable, so I need to get to the bottom of this.
The issue: Trying to answer an incoming call when using Dutty Topaz R3 (and others) results in the phone freezing for 30 seconds or more and a missed call. Originally, I thought the problem was related to S2U2, but after a hard reset and not using it at all, it appears the issue is related to the ROM itself.
The weird part is, if I use the Topaz settings tool to turn off the Topaz phone canvas, the issue goes away. The problem is the last called list doesnt work, and the dialer doesnt work.
Lets see if we can get this issue resolved ASAP, so chefs can incorporate the changes into their ROMS. I tried a few different ones last night, and its a common problem across all of them.

Just to add, Ive had this issue with:
Dutty Topaz R3
Dutty Leo R6
EnergyRom Topaz

try change radio version

Its not the radio version.

From doing some reading on the forums, I think the issue is related to the Topaz dialer as I had that same issue on the AT&T stock ROM and some other cooked ROMS. I have been using Dutty's ROMs for a bit now and I find that his version (specifically with the Leo phone canvas) works extremely well. I have not had an issue with answering the phone since...
If you can find either the Leo Phone Canvas or the Rhodium Canvas, that might also help you as I have also read that just changing the canvas might work, too...

Which version, specifically, are you using? I can download and flash and give it a shot as soon as I know.

cucamelsmd15 said:
Which version, specifically, are you using? I can download and flash and give it a shot as soon as I know.
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Any of Dutty's ROMs with the Leo canvas have worked for me, I was using the ROM in my signature for a while (for me, that qualifies as more than a week cuz I am a flashaholic)... Currently using his Holy Grail V1, which is also a really good ROM... Let me know how it goes, hope it works for you (don't forget the hard reset after you flash his ROM and it goes through its customization, you don't know how many people forget that step and causes issues with the ROM)...

Why discussing the same subject in two threads at the same time ?
THis one and in this one

talonz55 said:
Any of Dutty's ROMs with the Leo canvas have worked for me, I was using the ROM in my signature for a while (for me, that qualifies as more than a week cuz I am a flashaholic)... Currently using his Holy Grail V1, which is also a really good ROM... Let me know how it goes, hope it works for you (don't forget the hard reset after you flash his ROM and it goes through its customization, you don't know how many people forget that step and causes issues with the ROM)...
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Im downloading HGV1 right now actually. Ill post back with results. I think both V6 and V3 that I used of Duttys had the Topaz canvas actually.

Pisca said:
Why discussing the same subject in two threads at the same time ?
THis one and in this one
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Because this issue spans multiple ROMs and the cooks need to be involved in fixing this.
Moreover, there seems to be (as of now) no solid fix for the issue, so the more exposure we get on this issue, the more likely we are to find the fix.

cucamelsmd15 said:
Because this issue spans multiple ROMs and the cooks need to be involved in fixing this.
Moreover, there seems to be (as of now) no solid fix for the issue, so the more exposure we get on this issue, the more likely we are to find the fix.
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I have said it in the other thread and I say it here as well.
Their is a fix... use Leo canvas. Topaz canvas is not compatible with HTC Pure. Topaz canvas is designed for video call, which HTC pure can not do.

Just finishes flashing HGR1, the dialer is indeed different (no video call option).
Lets see what develops for today...

arkavat said:
I have said it in the other thread and I say it here as well.
Their is a fix... use Leo canvas. Topaz canvas is not compatible with HTC Pure. Topaz canvas is designed for video call, which HTC pure can not do.
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What is the difference between video call and video share? HTC Pure supports video share.. Does this have something to do with the VGA cam on the front of the TD2 that the Pure doesn't have?

Leo canvans cab
arkavat said:
I have said it in the other thread and I say it here as well.
Their is a fix... use Leo canvas. Topaz canvas is not compatible with HTC Pure. Topaz canvas is designed for video call, which HTC pure can not do.
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Is there a cab for the Leo canvas? If so can someone please post it.

Im happy to report the Leo canvas indeed seems to have worked.
The problem is, theres still a bunch of ROMs floating around out there with the Topaz canvas.

cucamelsmd15 said:
Im happy to report the Leo canvas indeed seems to have worked.
The problem is, theres still a bunch of ROMs floating around out there with the Topaz canvas.
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Good to hear that. Welcome to my world of problem free Pure ;-) Seriously, I am quite pleased with this phone, compared to my Touch, Diamond and Fuze.
Now we need to convince chef with leo canvas to make a cab for us.

Just to follow up, the Leo canvas has fixed my issue.
Like previously stated, and Leo canvas .cab would be awesome.

cucamelsmd15 said:
This is an offshoot of this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4922790#post4922790
The issue: Trying to answer an incoming call when using Dutty Topaz R3 (and others) results in the phone freezing for 30 seconds or more and a missed call. Originally, I thought the problem was related to S2U2, but after a hard reset and not using it at all, it appears the issue is related to the ROM itself.
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Have the same issue. I'll try Dutty's latest with the Leo canvas and see what happens. Could have sworn I used a ROM with the Leo canvas and still had the issue (eventually; didn't happen at first). We'll see.

Verrigan said:
What is the difference between video call and video share? HTC Pure supports video share.. Does this have something to do with the VGA cam on the front of the TD2 that the Pure doesn't have?
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Video share and video call are the same thing, just different terminology. Many people are saying that the Pure does not support video calling, when in fact it does. It just doesn't support it in the same way as the TD2, which has two cameras. The Pure has only one camera, which is on the back of the phone.
So you have two solutions. You can use ROMs with the dialer derived from the stock AT&T ROM (like Optimal Champious) or you can use ROMs that use the Leo dialer, which does not have the videocalling feature.
I still would like to find an actual fix for this problem so that those who own AT&T Pure hardware could simply run a cab that would tweak the Topaz dialer so it would work fine with the AT&T Pure rather than bugging out.

Ok, since no one seems willing and/or able to roll the Leo canvas into a .cab, what other canvas is compatible with the Pure?

My 2 cents to the perfect ROM

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Hi All,
Just want to say a big thanks to all the great developers out there such as Dutty, Miri, topix, energyrom, xannytech.. etc.
Without you guys I think I would have sold my HD a long time ago.
I think I have flashed my Hd almost every day or two, since I had my hands on it. As there has always been a bug or two in every rom.
I have been a long time fan of Dutty's rom. But now that its stopped at the holy grail r0, the builds have been updated. Its great to have used his roms, but its still not perfect. So recently I've started looking again at other cookers.
I've been using WM 6.5 for a long time and I don't think that will change. But recently I have tried every combination wm6.1/m2.1, wm6.5/m2.1 wm6.5/m2.5 of different cookers, and tested. To see whether I have been missing out on anything.
I've finally come to a conclusion that wm6.5/m2.1 was the most stable and smoothest rom around. That brings me to Miri's roms. I've tried the wm6.5/2.5 v18 and wm6.5/m2.1 v35.
Miri's Wm6.5/2.5 v18 was great, but like every m2.5, it is still abit slow. and since I dont like the new HTC messenger, I would lose out on the mms. Well I dont really miss mms that much, but I've been without it for 6month+. And if I try to install Opera 10 on it, my pop up menu's were all screwed up and its one of those things I couldn't accept.
So lastly I went and tried Miri's wm6.5/m2.1 v35. And I must say, I think this is the one. There are a few bugs there, but I will post the links down to fix them.
First is the Miri's Rom: //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
Before flashing Miri's rom there are a few things I would like to note
1. lockscreen delay that you would most likely want to fix by adding a file into your storage card.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587931
2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
Now you can flash the rom
After installing, you would notice on the settings tab that the line is missing between communications and customise tabs. And the line between g-sensor would flicker when you scroll down to it.
This is the list of things I would install:
1. Autolock - install csdevctrl.6.5.cab and play with the settings to your liking.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
2. Chinese support - Just a unicode to read asian languages,
link here //rapidshare.com/files/135293786/uhei00m-gray.cab.html
3. 2d/3d driver by Neos2007 - make wonders for games on HD and also seems to fix the line problems on the settings tab.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
4. Gfxboost by Chainfire - This is abit complicated, it doesn't boost the graphics, it's more like it smoothens the display. So its more pleasant..
read more here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509704
5. Opera 10 beta - This is sooo much better than any other browsers. When you load a webpage, it used to show those annoying blocks that hasn't loaded. Not anymore! anyways no harm to test right? Just flash hasn't been implemented into it yet. But i dont mind..
download here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
6. HD Tweak - Im sure most ppl know this one. I just use this to change the left and right keys on the home screen. And turn off the sms sent notification. Thats about it
Just a note, although there is autolock function in HD tweak, it doesnt work that well. As soon as the backlight goes off, it doesnt come back on till you push the power button and back again.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
Lastly: Im not a fan of the HTC task manager. So I normally turn it off by disabling the quick menu on today screen tick box. And just shortcut in programs tab to MS task manager.
Thats all I had to share
Hope you find your rom that works for you. This one just happens to work perfectly for me..

I use KWBR's rom.
I didn't choose Miri's as the log is not clear.
Energy rom is also quite impressive I would say.
Could you elaborate the better side of the Miri rom from your view?

yellovv23 said:
[Warning, theres alot to read ]
2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
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Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?

jigners said:
Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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i have read somewhere that if you change pp to 0 windows takes over the pp so it is possible and have seen a cook, cook his roms whit pp on 0
im trying to cook myself and also gonna give it a go and see what happens

jigners said:
yellovv23 said:
[Warning, theres alot to read ]
2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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if PP is set to 0, most probably the OS will adjust according to usage...
actually now i'm looking for stable WM6.5.x with manila/Sense 2.1 (as close to stock as possible, something like wajk's blackSTONEhenge), but most of recent ROM comes with Manila/Sense 2.5, which is a bit tough on the HD...not to mention lock-ups problem, even those who has flashed custom ROMs in HD2 is having some problems...when that time comes, i'm more than happy to stick with kwbr's topix 3.2.5 (might flash to the latest version as it comes with EzInput 2.1, which i like a lot)...
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KayK said:
if PP is set to 0, most probably the OS will adjust according to usage...
actually now i'm looking for stable WM6.5.x with manila/Sense 2.1 (as close to stock as possible, something like wajk's blackSTONEhenge), but most of recent ROM comes with Manila/Sense 2.5, which is a bit tough on the HD...not to mention lock-ups problem, even those who has flashed custom ROMs in HD2 is having some problems...when that time comes, i'm more than happy to stick with kwbr's topix 3.2.5 (might flash to the latest version as it comes with EzInput 2.1, which i like a lot)...
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Lockups issue appears to have been fixed, see this thread

yellovv23 said:
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As much as I appreciate your comments, this is obviously your opinion and a lot of users may agree or disagree.
I'll continue to leave this thread open to see where it goes for the time being

[01.02.10] Touch-IT BT - manila 2.5.20113030 - Discontinued at xda

Touch-IT Black Topaz​
I am removing my roms due to conflicts with certain members at xda, this looks like it cant be solved in normal ways. And because I do not want anymore of the bickering and fighting, I am pulling my work from XDA and all support is moved to you know where. I cant even mention that name anymore here.
Sorry to see this happen here, where I have learned so much, and met so many wonderful ppl.

rom is now online
happy flashing

Sounds great. Are you going to release a german version of it? And can you tell me if the video playback on HQ YouTube videos is laggy or something? I guess you are using the X2 video driver?

new UI, wonderful
will give it a try
thx for that

Thanks, i will install it and give some feedback

Flasing as we speak, will report back!
Thanks for the rom!

Thank you
Now flashing .....

after flashed and hard reset one time
today screen with weather animation look great ( not lag like some other rom )
but i about SMS , it's still lag (maybe because i have more than 100 sms)

dreaminside said:
after flashed and hard reset one time
today screen with weather animation look great ( not lag like some other rom )
but i about SMS , it's still lag (maybe because i have more than 100 sms)
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Can you maybe check out the video playback? If its not croppy or anything. Thank you.

dreaminside said:
after flashed and hard reset one time
today screen with weather animation look great ( not lag like some other rom )
but i about SMS , it's still lag (maybe because i have more than 100 sms)
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@dreaminside, test this for sms:
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This thred is to post the best mods and tweaks for new Sense 2.5.
I will post the mods that i use all the time, and i hope you guys/girls will follow and post your own mods.
15/12 -09 HTC official SMS fix.cab -thanks fab985 for cabbing it.
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grEEtZ,
gongoscho

[doublepost]

Just an early impression (played for a few hours); but so far WM6.5 and Manilla 2.5 seem to be very smooth. (alot faster then the NRG rom i tried before this one)
I also like the decision to use Opera 9* instead of 10Beta, since 9 is alot less annoying at times. (@ 10B i cannot seem to see whether i pressed a link or not)
However, why did you leave out HTC's Wifi share and the percentual battery meter?
Also, im not sure if Opera Mini is liking Jblend much, it seemed to bug the animations/screen changes after loading a few pages.
(for others, look in HKCU-Software-Jblend of the register, to make Jblend fullscreen)
That aside, i love it, great job for this lag-free Manilla 2.5 experience .

Very good Rom. I used it for the last few hours and there is no major bug to find. The only thing that Wifi on/off doesnt work over the Comm Manager but it works fine with the system settings.
Youtube fast is in High definition !!!
Yeah and my Battery is still at 100%?!

itje said:
Touch-IT Black Topaz​
Some info:
Some difference in the manila is: No doc tab and no footprints. (probably can be added in future releases)
Also, this is manila 2.5 buildt for Topaz, witch has a smaller cpu. This means that speed has been improved, and weather animations are faster by default.
If you feel some features misses from my BL (leo based) that is natural, as this is all based from the topaz
-Os build 24001
-Office 2010
-Sense 2.5.20113030.0 with landscape support
-X-Task cooked in (Go here for support on X-Task)
-2G dialer (no videocall)
-New speed improvements
-Reg cleaning
-Opera 9.70.35758.0
-NetCF3.5
DOWNLOAD
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No support for italian language?

Salvestro said:
No support for italian language?
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This is an english windows, but u can change the keyboard settings to your language...

24001 has been updated with htc camera
also added build 23519 and 21890
check post #1 in this thread

gongoscho said:
@dreaminside, test this for sms:
grEEtZ,
gongoscho
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already tested , Everything r BIG . and after i tested for awhile it removed all my sms itself !

Worst situation ever.
After successful completion of installing process, I reboot device and it won't go forward but stick on date and time window. I can't change the date, I am able to change time but date won't even able to click.
Did hard reset twice, after and twice before flashing the room, same odd situation, I lost all my previous data etc and now even can't install this room. Going to download any other room and gonna flash, meanwhile, if some one can give me quick advise. Thanks

Does the Camera button show X1 camera or htc camera??????

mahharrouf said:
Worst situation ever.
After successful completion of installing process, I reboot device and it won't go forward but stick on date and time window. I can't change the date, I am able to change time but date won't even able to click.
Did hard reset twice, after and twice before flashing the room, same odd situation, I lost all my previous data etc and now even can't install this room. Going to download any other room and gonna flash, meanwhile, if some one can give me quick advise. Thanks
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this thing was happend to my first time flashed too , but after i did hard reset by using tiny hole then skip that process , it work fine. u can adjust date and time after complete flashing.

Stock 2.07.401.1 ROM trimmed to Lite

Hello everyone,
OK, here is my first go at ROM cooking.
I was looking for a very basic ROM with only must-have applications inside, so that I can later install the software I *do* use. Eventually I gave up, as all the ROMs and even the Lite'est ones had too much features / utilities. I thought I would then take the latest official ROM available (for stability purpose) and trim it down to minimum elements (for size reduction).
Herewith is what I ended up with:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3829100....25.91_Signed_Ship_trimmed_by_aziraphale_.rar
This in no way can be called a "cooked" ROM, I still know nothing about cooking, but it is a heavily trimmed stock ROM, created by the use of RhodiumKitchen_0.1, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519.
Thanks Dave for this Tutorial and all the credits go to respective tools' developers.
How to install:
- unrar
- connect with ActiveSync (or loader in USB mode)
(goes without saying Your device must be Hard-SPL'd or modified any other way to allow ROM flashing - search the forum)
- execute RomUpdateUtility.exe
There are some residual unnecessary and/or invalid shortcuts in the Start Menu,
as well as some empty folders, I manually removed them by the use of EveryWAN personal edition - it's free and it's easy to use.
The OS is 6.5 b21887
I have trimmed the following from the stock ROM:
HTC applications:
- appointment editor
- clear storage (can do Hard reset in normal way)
- facebook / engine
- format SD (can't a PC do that?)
- CoPilot + install path folder (I use TomTom)
- birthday
- bookmark
- messaging client (hate it)
- jblend
- jetcet
- manila all
- opera (when You install newer version You end up with 2 )
- sliding sounds
- social networks engine
- streaming media
- tv out
- youtube
- volume control
- google maps (same as with opera)
- setting improvement
- text selection
- wifi wizard
- browser snapshot
- ie6 enhancement
- world card mobile (BCR)
- rss hub
System:
- live search
- wm widgets
- win live
- welcome center
- transcriber
- skymarket
- one note
- remote desktop
- themes except Rock and Republic
- my phone (skybox)
- livesearch
I do not expect this to become very useful to most of the forum visitors/members, but perhaps there is someone out there who have not found his/her way around to make ROMs him(her)self yet, but would like to get the very basic ROM with no extras.

Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!

mccune said:
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
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You said it yourself - the "must-have" are the ones that can not be added by .cabs and will compromise phone functionality (like the HTC dialer skin will enable video calls, thus must stay)
mccune said:
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
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the "2.07.401.1" implies 6.5, but added to description anyway, thanks

Good effort dude I did much the same a month or so ago with an amalgamation of Ervius Visual Kitchen (so easy) and JoshKoss kitchen. Didn't go as savage on the removal of stuff though, main objective was to get rid of the HTC Messaging
Just tried May 1st 23xxx EnergyROM with MaxManila but it cuts off MP3 playback in standby (a big no-no for me) and hung once already while texting MaxManila is nice though, and the Facebook tab is good. I usually stick to 21xxx but I must say 23xxx is growing on me with the latest build. Gonna try Cell Pro next.
I like the latest stuff but keeping up with it all is a nightmare if you're cooking. Wouldn't mind the latest 2.5 Manila packages and latest 21xxx / 23xxx SYS, also would try cooking in MaxManila, and I never managed to cook in "mark all as read" for emails properly. Need to learn how to hack on Manila. Also I forgot to cook in a task manager haha Ameba is quite nice on the latest EnergyROM. I definitely get the "why cook it in if you can get it from Marketplace / OMarket and auto update it" though, totally with you on that one instead of flashing a new ROM every week. I usually flash a new one every month or so, once I find one I like. But for the last month or so I've been running my own. It wasn't the fastest ROM ever though
It's a lot of work to make a decent ROM, and it's finding the time innit. I'm a big fan of JoshKoss but he hasn't released anything in a while
Anyway good effort dude the more the merrier I say

Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.

MadBeef said:
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" (read: respect, not sarcasm) cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras. I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either. Hence was this ROM done and I am so far rather happy with it.
There is no sign of HTC messaging which I can find, and I can install and use only necessary (for me) bits of software.
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).

Aziraphale_l said:
Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras.
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Yeah me too, those guys have spent probably 100's if not 1000's of hours on learning this stuff, then putting it together in a manner that pleases a lot of different people. Major kudos. I sometimes get the feeling though particularly with chefs who release almost every day, for a number of different devices, that the care and testing leaves something to be desired. Quite often more does not = better as you know
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I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either.
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Yeah fair enough mate although I am a big fan of Manila 2.5 and MaxManila is quite nice
Aziraphale_l said:
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
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Yeah I tried converting that to an EXT and cooking it in but it didn't work I know it can be done though cos a lot of ROMs have it built in. To be honest I don't really have enough time anymore to dedicate to my own ROM so I'm trying out a few others.
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Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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It's weird ... Mine's never hung while running but I've had the SOD two or three times. More research required, until then just stick the pen up it's arse haha

Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.

thesecondsfade said:
Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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i'd love to, but....
as i said i am no cook and i only did it for myself and cared enough to share with anyone who'd love to have it "as is".
also, see the respective later-release ROM threads to see how many bugs are there still and ROM-cooking gurus are eliminating them one by one and it's a long and painstaking process. i have neither time, nor ability to do that.
so i guess this is as much as i can do so far.

I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.

jamespaulritter said:
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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very good!

Well I think I have ran the gamet of tezts and this ROM is perfect. It is fast and stable trimmed down well but still offering everything a user needs. I am on AT&T in the states and it works perfect. The only thing I cant figure out is how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board? And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?

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...how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board?
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that would be by manually editing registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"ApVibrationOn"=dword:00000000
it is 1 by default, change it to 0 and you are all set
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And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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this here i am not sure what you mean?
whatever you add (install) SHOULD function properly, if it would have on a stock ROM,
as i have not made any changes to remaining ROM bits
edit: if you open Albums and select any picture You want, it will open in full screen, tap it, and 4 icon menu comes up, 3rd from the left with 2 arrows > tap this one and there is an option *mail*.
select the account (i would use email) and voila! is that what you were looking for?

Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.

Maybe this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624375
With these settings from the same thread.
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port:80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: Media Net
Send Limit: 300k
Wap Version: 2.0
I'll try to send an MMS tomorrow.

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Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
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HTC messaging, which I understand handles MMS functionality in our devices, has evolved into... well, something I did not like any more, so it had to go.
I personally don't use MMS, so it is no big deal for me.
Your ArcSoft link below - I see no reason why it will not work, give it a try? You can then share Your findings with the rest of us.

P.S. Battery life on this ROM is the best I have ever seen!
I have tried a dozen ROMs and I usually stick with them for a month or so I guess. They are either lite with bugs or heavy with eye candy and bugs. So far I haven't had a single issue with yours. I think many developers get in to much of a hurry. I appreciate the great job you did on this.
I notice today that to get from one task to another, one program to another or one event to another I use fewer steps because everything is simple and functional. Thanks again.

I cooked in Arcsoft_MMS_5_2_8_45 on mine, after pulling out HTC Messaging, if I remember rightly it worked but it's very rare I use MMS anyway. If you install it afterwards, re-run carrier provisioning (or whatever it's called ... where it sets up your network settings automatically) and it should configure Arcsoft for ya.
Right now I'm running EnergyROM 23xxx from 1st of May but battery is suffering and it crashes a bit, not mega fast either. It is a nice flashy ROM tho I used to hate 23xxx and much prefer 21xxx but lately I'm kinda undecided.

Thanks for the haptic feedback registry edit; works great.

Also with regard to cooking in SafeInboxExtender look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677105