i ended up installing the telenav proc for the htc advantage, after i was in a bind out on the road, and the "get telenav" option in the programs folder took me to a webpage that said my device wasnt recognized. i know that custom roms sometimes have this happen, but in the pinch i was in, the advantage telenav proc worked enough to get by, but now i went to uninstall it, and reinstall the one for the kaiser. i tried installing the telenav-att-8925.cab but now it wont show up in the programs list. when i browse to the program directory, and run the .exe from there, i get the "cannot connect to server make sure you phone is on blah blah" error message. so i uninstalled again, but then checked the programs directory and notices its not removeing all of the telenav files from the folder, mainly the .exe file.
so do i need to somehow run a msi cleanup equivalent on my phone, instead of doing a hard reset? i dont have a registry tool on my phone at the moment...
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when you remove a program does it really remove all traces of the program? I realize the cab file has to be deleted manually but like on a pc do most programs leave junk behind on a poketpc?
It's Windows man! Need you ask?
a little off topic, but one thing i've noticed with my Kaiser is that a few of my installed programs do not appear in the "remove programs" list. using WMDC, however, programs will appear and give me the option to uninstall but uninstalling does nothing; the program(s) are still on my device. as RemE said... "it's Windows..."
What program?
Probably, the installation was not right ... so the uninstall information is not properly available.
Try to re-install and then uninstall to clean it.
just a general question...seems to clean up after itself pretty well.
First of all, I am very very satisfied witj my TyTN II.
Video playback WAS an issue for me (as a AV professional), but I am absolutely satisfied after installing CorePlayer and looking forward to the upgrade to version 1.2 of that program.
Other programs were less to my liking and after evaluation I decided to uninstall them using the uninstall utility of MS Active Sync.
But some of these programs simply refuse to uninstall. So I still have a shortcut to the Feedreader program News Gato in my programs map and I cannot get rid of it.
Even more annoying is the Spite Backup program that came with the TyTN II on CD, which I uninstalled, but still givbes me a warning at startup that the file Sprite.exe cannot be found.
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A CLUE HOW I SHOULD CLEAN UP?
Thanks!
I know what you mean about annoying programmes which won't disapear when they are uninstalled.
One of them for me is a windows live messenger version which I installed. I couldn't get rid of it by softresetting so I had to do the hard reset.
Moreover, PointUI is anothe programme that when uninstalled, still remains on my programme list. Because of this, I had to also hard reset my device.
The hard reset function is the only solution I know that will rid me of troublesome remnants of programmes...
Try SKtools its a good program and has a few features that clean up your registry and it also has an uninstaller better then the one provided by windows. Don't know if it'll work, but worth a shot.
I had the same problem with Sprite - at their web site I found the following fix, which worked for me:
To uninstall everything from your device and PC please follow these steps;
To remove from your device;
1. Use File Explorer to delete the entire folder on your device;
"\Program Files\Sprite Software" if Sprite Backup was installed on device
or
"\Storage Card\Program Files\Sprite Software" if installed on storage card
2. Use a registry editor (e.g. www.phm.lu) for Windows Mobile device to delete the following key in the registry on your device;
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
3. Please also delete the following link file if it exists:
- My Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Sprite Backup(.lnk)
To uninstall from your PC;
Steps for manually removing ALL Sprite Software entries from your PC. Please follow these steps carefully to manually remove all Sprite Backup software;
1. Click Start> Run on your PC and type "Regedit" in the bar
2. Delete the following keys;
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\AppMgr\Apps\Sprite Software Sprite Backup]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D8FD4D0D-E171-4FFC-91CE-BA38EEAC5E06}]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
3. Close the Registry Editor
4. Use Windows Explorer to delete these folders;
C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{D8FD4D0D-E171-4FFC-91CE-BA38EEAC5E06}
C:\Program Files\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup
C:\Program Files\Sprite Software\Sprite Explorer
This will uninstall everything related to Sprite Backup.
246810 said:
I know what you mean about annoying programmes which won't disapear when they are uninstalled.
One of them for me is a windows live messenger version which I installed. I couldn't get rid of it by softresetting so I had to do the hard reset.
Moreover, PointUI is anothe programme that when uninstalled, still remains on my programme list. Because of this, I had to also hard reset my device.
The hard reset function is the only solution I know that will rid me of troublesome remnants of programmes...
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I tried that same application ths morning and 2 hours later I was uninstalling it. It looked cool, but my internet was painfully slow, and the gestures were all backwards. To get the menu to slide left, you had to slide your finger right on the screen. The hardware keys didn't work, and then when the application locked up on me that was it. The only way out I found was to hit the end key repeatedly until it finally exited. Then the uninstall instructions didn't work. I think that could be a fine program once it is refined, but right now it was a pain.
-Jay
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I tried that same application ths morning and 2 hours later I was uninstalling it. It looked cool, but my internet was painfully slow, and the gestures were all backwards. To get the menu to slide left, you had to slide your finger right on the screen. The hardware keys didn't work, and then when the application locked up on me that was it. The only way out I found was to hit the end key repeatedly until it finally exited. Then the uninstall instructions didn't work. I think that could be a fine program once it is refined, but right now it was a pain.
-Jay
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I know what you mean about the gestures being in reverse. This took a while to get used to.
By the way, I had the previous blue version installed on my Kaiser, not the latest black version. I suppose I could give it anothe go, but I can't be bothered to do another hard reset if I don't like the programme and want it fully removed
But yes, I do agree that it would be a good programme once all the little technicalities are fixed. I still do like the normal windows 6 UI, after installing Dutty's CAB which makes the start menu bigger
246810 said:
I know what you mean about the gestures being in reverse. This took a while to get used to.
By the way, I had the previous blue version installed on my Kaiser, not the latest black version. I suppose I could give it anothe go, but I can't be bothered to do another hard reset if I don't like the programme and want it fully removed
But yes, I do agree that it would be a good programme once all the little technicalities are fixed. I still do like the normal windows 6 UI, after installing Dutty's CAB which makes the start menu bigger
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Dutty's enlarged start menu is fantastic. I can navigate the start menu w/o my stylus. One of the best, easiest, and most useful mods out there!
-Jay
I tried SK Tools...and it did the job!
Thanks for the tip
OK, so it seems that just about every time i want to uninstall/upgrade a program on my tilt (not cracked, only bypassed the att crapification...er, customization).
what happens is, certain programs (most recently cetwit) will not fully uninstall when i goto remove them from remove programs. it says this and asks if i wish to remove the program from the list of installed programs, and i usually say yes. that program is still listed when i goto start/programs, and the program files are still safe and secure in the program files folder through file explorer.
the worst part is, when i try to reinstall/install an updated version, it shows two icons in my programs list, which is very frustrating...enough so that it causes me to hard reset and reinstall everything over again. i've run registry and junk file cleaners to no avail.
is there any way to COMPLETELY remove a program in this situation, or am i required to hard reset each time it happens?
maybe here i will also ask for a good registry cleaner that knows what to kill and what to leave...
sktools wiped out some important things, had to hard reset and start over because even my backup app couldnt fully recover.
Get a file explorer, delete the program's folder in Program files, delete the shortcut in the start menu and most of it is done. You can then use a reg cleaner to remove the last remains in the registry.
That has happened to me with a couple of programs, I'd blame the programs rather than WM.
I have a similar issue. I've removed the program folders, shortcuts, registry entries, etc. but the programs still appear in the remove programs list under settings / system. Although it's not causing me any problems per se it is really annoying. If anyone knows how to fix it I'd love to know.
on pc's the list in add/remove
is
located in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
would asume that they are stored in reg on pda's too
I've had that happen a few times also, what usually fixed it besides manually deleting the folders and shortcuts, is to remove it in add/remove programs in activesync. Just check the box that says to delete from handheld and desktop.
I've tried that - using AS to remove the applications - but it still doesn't work. They all show up with a size of 0.0K but removing the tick in the box and selecting the remove from both device and computer option does nothing - they still show up in the list on both devices.
Been messing around with some of the more basic tweaks, and I have all of a sudden got a major issue. My File Explorer takes an extraordinary amount of time to load up the Windows directory. I mean, it sits there for a good 5 minutes before it loads up that directory. Once it is opened, I can navigate through my device and the other folders just fine, but the SECOND I try to get into the Windows directory it's just wait-city....
I did not tweak anything with File Explorer. Is there any way to fix this?
its my first PPC so maybe im missing something but... why would u ever really need to explore your Windows Folder that much on your phone? and ofcourse it takes a ton of time to load, it has tons of system files in there to enumerate
that is weird though, mine takes a while to load up, but certainly not 5 minutes
if you are installing programs into your Windows folder, and trying to access them through the File Explorer, then ur "doing it wrong" as they say on this here internets... most anytime i mess with my windows folder on my phone, im doing synced up with active sync on my PC
There are actualyl plenty of reasons to be in the Windows Directory. And many of them have to do with tweaking and other enhancements to the device.
Just backup your stuff and do a hard reset, perhaps it is worth making a note of which stuff you changed should this happen again?
EDIT: Yes there are PENTY of reasons to be navigating into the \Windows folder on a PPC so its not a "doing it wrong" situation...however it is always wise to research the tweaks and changes you are carrying out should you end up in the situation where you cant boot the device....hence losing your data.
On my ELFin, I think this used to happen whenever I messed about with TF2D themes, since they contain hundreds of files.
Mine will load from my PC or on the phone in about 30 seconds (slightly longer from the phone itself)
5 minutes seems rather excessive just for the window's directory
As stated above try the reset on it to see about clearing up some memory.
Also when active sync came up on the phone did you accidentally select a different type of connection than active sync? I did once and everything ran super slow unless I was browsing through it as a thumb drive.
On WM, windows throws EVERYTHING into that one directory, the more stuff you add, the more that directory gets filled. I know my tilt could take like a minute to load that one directory. At the moment the Fuze loads it in under 15 seconds.
I use it to launch cabs and find files. Its my first PPC w/e its called. I had that happen before though it lagged soo much i reset my fuze and it fixed it.
A lot of the time is how its sorted. Make sure its sorted by name, as this is how the files are normally indexed. If you select sort by Type, it has to sort it each and every time you try to browse to the Windows directory. Its nothing wrong with your Fuze, but rather Windows Mobile. We are so due for an update.
Hi Supertruck,
You could try using Total Commander instead of File Explorer, it's loads better by far.
Also, you can setup directory hotlists so if you need to take a look at \Windows\Rings or \Windows\StartUp for example you can navigate straight there and miss out the wait while the device enumerates the \Windows dir.
Cheers,
D.
m. carroll....that was it!!! I had it sorted by file type because I was doing the PTT changes and was copying .lnk files around and wanted them all together. It opens right up now that I have it sorted by Name.
Strange how something so small can make such a huge differece.
Thanks so much!!!
Hi guys I have to use PTT for work and for some gawdawful reason HTC made the PTT icon a little yellow smiley face when its on, no they could just make a button that said PTT or something they had to use a smiley face and just looking at the face angers me. I dug around and I found a "hidden" file in the windows directory called PTTService.dll I opened it, found the icon resource, created a new icon, imported it, saved it and when I tried to put it on my machine I got an error that I don't have permission to do that.
I've pretty much hit a wall, I thought I'd done the hard part but I guess not, anyone have ideas? I don't wanna screw with the ROM because its a company phone.
You'll need to disable the dialer skin, and the PTT service through the registry, and soft reset so that the dll isnt actively loaded in memory. then you'll need to sign your dll with a certificate like the sdk certs, and load that cert onto your phone, then overwrite it and set the ptt service and dialer skin to load, and you should be golden..
I bet I could figure out how to do the registry thing, but the cert part makes my brain explode!
The attached app will sign any .exe or .dll with the Windows Mobile SDK Certs (use SDKSamplePriv)
Then copy SDKSamplePrivDeveloper.cer to your device and run it like a cab.
The signing process will fail if the file is already signed, first you need to strip the signature.. it will also fail if readonly, the solution to that is obvious
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2508061 <--- that app will strip the signature
Sorry its been so long to revisit this post, but I had to give a intro to Fuze and Win Mobile to all our Corporate users who all just got them recently and I wanted mine to look and act like theirs until I gave that presentation.
So I finally created the icon to replace that horrid smiley face, I created it with Microangelo (I couldn't believe I still had that app after like 5 years) and used PEXplorer to open the .dll, its PTTService.dll actually, and edit the resource, then change the icon and it worked! I only changed the small icon one because that's the one I see. (32x32 8 bit)
So I got a trial (15 day) of MemMaid and turned off the services for PTT and Keypad and set them to Manual Start, restarted the Fuze and they were off.
I think from here I am almost golden, I just couldn't figure out the signing part, because after I overwrote the PTTService.dll on the device (it warned it was on ROM etc) and tried to use MemMaid to start the service and put it on Auto Start, upon reset only the Keypad was working and the PTT was on Auto Start but wouldn't start unless I did it manually, and when I replaced it back with the original it did Auto Start so I think I signed it wrong.
Heres what I did I downloaded that extracted the linked file (by Da_G), then I had a folder called Sign_msigner, I ran siggner.exe chose the PTTService.dll that I created and it appeared to work because I got a text doc saying:
"Warning: This file is signed, but not timestamped.
Succeeded"
so I replaced it, did the MemMaid thing and it wouldn't Auto Start, so I though Oh I forgot to do that certificate thing, so I coped the SDKSamplePrivDeveloper.cer from the Tools folder onto the Fuze, ran it, and that worked because I had a certificate in my certificates area of the Fuze (was only good until 12/31/08 it says) and tried it again and still no luck, can you guys give me some more great advice, I'm so close!!
It sounds like you did everything right, check the "Certificates" menu under settings to make sure the certificate you signed it with did load..
When a .dll is loaded as a driver (in HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn) signing it via this process won't work because those drivers are loaded before the certificate store is vetted.. but I don't think PTTService.dll loads there..
I didn't see anything in there except under the Intermediate tab and it says issues by: TEST USE ONLY - Sample Privileged Root.... expires: 12/31/09
I think that's in there tho because I ran that SDKSamplePrivDeveloper.cer on the Fuze myself (or is that what i was supposed to do), I don't think it started when it tried to load the PTTService.dll
I attached the dll, is there a way to check it?
Also there's 2 files in the tools folder called signcode.exe and signtool.exe, I didn't use these for anything, should I have.
Looks good, not sure why its not loading.
Might need to tool with the security settings, check this post for a good read on the subject:
http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/38730/1954
You can get the tool itself here