Diamond Touchscreen stopped working...problems with 3 Denmark RMA - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi all,
My touchscreen stopped working a week ago, no new installations, no new changes. It just stopped responding to the clicks on the screen, in the middle of a phone call. Resetting did not help, Hardreset neigher... as I got stuck at the first time boot screen where the WM wants to calibrate the touchscreen and you have to click on the displayed marks. I bought it 7 month ago so I decided to RMA it. After flushing my data, i delivered it to a local 3 butik. Since I had no doubts about the competence of the tech guys at the service center I left the Dutty Rom installed, instead of reverting to the original 3 rom.
Today, after a 3 days repair estimate they sent me a repair offer for almost 700$ for just reinstalling the original ROM since they are absolutely sure this is where the problem lies (prolly they thought Dutty ROM was magically working for months, until the magic depleted?).
So they are sending me my Diamond back, so that I could reflash it with the original 3 and RMA it again..
Has anyone else experienced this "fun"?
I guess I'll stay away from 3 next time. (Good marketing, decent people, but really awful service)

Same problem. Today returned from service. The screen has been changee. No warranty, it was 111 €.

My touchscreen stopped working, soft reset didn't help. I didn't try hard reset, so maybe it's not the same, but when I removed the battery for the moment it started working. Try it

Kemot320 said:
My touchscreen stopped working, soft reset didn't help. I didn't try hard reset, so maybe it's not the same, but when I removed the battery for the moment it started working. Try it
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Thanks, i did try that as well, no luck. looks like there is a hardware problem.

s.magus said:
Same problem. Today returned from service. The screen has been changee. No warranty, it was 111 €.
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s.magus, what do you mean no warranty? isn't there a warranty from HTC? Which country did you buy the phone it, and when did you buy it?
unless there is an evidence of a physical misuse (broken screen or etc.) aren't they supposed to repair on their own expense!

I have warranty, but the service does not repair it under warranty. They say, it is the users fault. Too much pressure on the screen.

The saga ends tonight
Well, there have been some developments..more of complications.
Here's the short chronology of the RMA.
1) repairman refused to look at the phone, since he said there was a wrong software. and returned the phone. they charge 44$ if their repair offer is not accepted.
2) I reflashed back to the original 3 Rom, but left the Hard SPL in (overestimated their honesty)
3) repairman refuses to look at the phone, since he said there was a wrong software. and returned the phone. this time they tried charging 49$ claiming the prices went up. I did not have any agreement with them (the paper I signed when I delivered the phone says 44$), so I did not care about what happened to their prices, I pushed on 3; 3 pushed on them, i will pay 44$ again. 3 Denmark is paying the 5$ (They are "pleased" with their repair partner)
I can't blame the repairman (I guess his doing his job)
HTC said they are not obliged to service the phone under the warranty, but the support guy shared that they do not prohibit the repair center from servicing the phone either, even if the software is different, as long as the software does not look like the error causing factor, so the choice is on the repair shops discression.
Well in case of the Number1Service (which 3 Denmark uses), I know a guy who claims his board was replaced there (screen artifacts, but replacing the screen did not help), even though he was using a coocked ROM.
There're only two explanations i can see here.
1) the repairman was smart to see that the cooked rom could not have been an issue
2) The touch module costs 19$ to buy for people like us (and a lot cheaper for the repair centers/HTC), so perhaps it was not worth looking into an issue, since they could easily get 50$ if they did not repair the phone. The repair center is not a part of HTC, so they can play both ways (either get paid by HTC, or get paid by the user)
Be warned, don't put high hope on the service people if you are on a cooked software. If you have an RMA to go through:
- Flash your original ROM back
- Flash the original SPL back
HTC will take any chance to play it's "warraty void" trick. Perhaps it's a common case for other manufacturers as well, but I don't have any experience with those.
Even in Russia (which people sometimes underestimate in terms of the legislation), if you can not get the goods serviced under the warranty due to the warranty being void, the manufacturer is required by law to analyze and prove that the factor voiding the warranty is the actual cause for the problem observed in a serviced item.
The repairshop kindly offered to waive the 44$ fee if I left the phone for their "recycling". I appreciated their offer, but I requested the the phone back.
Has anyone else serviced their phone with a cooked ROM under the warranty?

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Am I completely screwed?

So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
If you got it off ebay, att doesnt want anything to do with it. You can try for HTC support, but i have no idea how HTC is with that kind of stuff.
Do a hard reset, and see if that helps any.
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
I've had good experiences with HTC.
SpugDarktyde said:
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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The first thing u should do is figure out if it is hardware or software related. Just do a hardreset and see if that helps. If not, then its most likely hardware related.
Check in Settings - Buttons what button is assigned to the recorder (usually the one on the left side), remove that assignment.
The button must be stuck or the sensor below it faulty, so it senses that button always pressed.
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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landwomble said:
This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
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Dont get me wrong, I wasnt slating HTC for their support, I'm with you on that one. I've just seen jobs that have been bounced back from them (rightfully so) and was just giving the worst case scenario, that being that HTC dont actually have to fix it.
the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
Square Trade
After this happened to me the first time I got some bunk electronics from ebay, I started using squaretrade.com. They will give you a warranty at about 50% of the cost of a Manufacturer/Dealer warranty and have a five day fix/replacement guarantee.
I would like to thank everyone for their reply I can see this is a dedicated community.
Starscreamer said:
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
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Last night I reverted back to my factory rom but this did not fix the problem. Some odd things that I noticed that has me completely baffled is that only the directional keys (up, down, right, left) work on the keyboard but nothing else works. I tried doing a hard reset but that didn't wont since the 2 soft keys are not responding.
jahrami said:
the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
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That manual seems very complete if I can't get HTC to fix it I will attempt to fix it myself. Does anyone know if I can purchase replacement part?
There's some hope for you. I bought my Tilt off of Ebay. AT&T warranted it from the day that it hit their network with my SIM card. So although it was originally purchased from AT&T (by the ebayer seller) on Oct 17th 2007, my warranty started December 6th 2007. No receipt required. They swapped it no problem. The TILT has a 365 day warranty via AT&T.
Just make sure you deal with a service center and not the individual stores. Go to attwireless.com and search for "TILT Warranty" .. look for the service center information.
Mine was swapped with no hassle in about 5minutes (I had a rom issue). One note if you go this route, check the replacement! My replacement has key-sticking issues (the right key on the keyboard gets stuck down, etc). The speaker (for phonecalls, not external) also is a little more muted than my old one (I sometimes have trouble hearing people). I may rewarranty it.
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Here: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB64687
The service centers are contractors (I could tell by their shirts, saying "Company Name: Authorized AT&T Tech"), so I really don't think they care, as long as they can warranty it they will because it is more money for them. Just my thought.
As the above poster said, AT&T WILL do warranty exchanges on tilts bought through ebay or otherwise. I bought one off of craigslist and had it exchanged when a key on the keyboard stopped working. No problem. It is warrantied for 1 year after it is first used on their system.
The people stating otherwise are flat out wrong.
Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
KyleK29 said:
No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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The touch pro is very sexy
congratulations
Richie V6 said:
The touch pro is very sexy
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Nexus One Repair Experiences

Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
HTC seems to be honoring the warranty if it's a hardware problem, even if you've unlocked your bootloader. I haven't had problems with it, but from what I've read that power button tends to go bad. If mine does, I'll call HTC (and not mention the unlocked bootloader), then when I get the phone back I'll do the root-without-unlocking method.
But yeah, HTC seems to have pretty stellar support for their hardware. Can't complain about that.
My similar experience here, but scroll up for a bad experience with a service center outside the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7076177#post7076177
They sure have very good customer service in the US...but for the repair center, well I can only say they are horrible!
My experience with them here
same problem as me. Got mine back today, and rooted it again. I didn't feel like cutting the sim card slot up and stuff.
They told me that I should ship mine back to HTC because (since frf50) it's been freezing and I need to pull the battery to restart. I don't want to though.
suicide_trend said:
Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
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Problem with HTC Support (and the N1 phone) - Need advise

Has anyone been able to dispute a repair charge and does anyone know if there would be charges if the power button was not working?
I just want to share my story and am wondering if investing $400 of repair charges on top of a $530 phone is worth it.
4/7/10 - Purchased N1 (Compatible with 3G on AT&T U.S.) from Google Webstore.
6/7/10 - Begin having 3G data & phone signal loss in New Orleans. Contacted AT&T and was told they were having tower issues in the area. Spent one week using 2G instead.
6/13/10 - Went to AT&T store to check on service. Got a brand new SIM card that worked on another phone. At this point, carrier issue has been ruled out
6/14/10 - Phoned N1 support, performed a master reset and then got transferred to HTC for warranty support. It was either replacement or repair. Chose replacement option.
6/17/10 - Received replacement phone and shipped my original phone back to them the very next day.
6/23/10 - Received email for a $196(!) repair quotation. Phoned into HTC support and was told that it was a customer induced motherboard damage. I asked for more details on the damage & charge, and customer service said that they need information from the "warehouse" and get back to me. Never heard back from CS.
7/10/10 - New replacement phone shut off by itself and could not be powered back on.
7/11/10 - Called N1 support and performed master reset which did not work. Got transferred to HTC support but a case cannot be opened because the previous case was still outstanding. The customer serivce rep confirmed that the case notes stated that I had called for more information, and they were supposed to get back to me. I was told that I need to talk to a supervisor for further support and they do not work on weekends.
7/12/10 - Called HTC support and spoke to a supervisor. Basically she told me that my options are
my options are either to pay the $196 and close the case or wait up to 48 hours to get the details back from the "warehouse". Either way, no replacement can be processed until the previous case is closed. I was told that there is no way to:
1. Get the open case closed temporarily so a replacement for my current issue can be dealt with.
2. No other person beyond the supervisor(s) I can talk to.
3. No way to escalate to the wareshouse to speed up 48 hours needed on getting the previous repair details.
4. No one can do anything else for a customer who is going through an exception situation.
5. No clear instructions on how to dispute a repair quotation.
All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction. Here are somethings that I find completely unsatisfying. Neither phones have been rooted, tempered with, dropped, or water damage on neither device.
1. First let's talk about 2 defective phones.
2. Sending repair quote to customers demanding payment without more information is unacceptable.
3. Blaming customer for self-induced damange while there is a known 3G issue for the N1.
4. Not getting back to customer on repair details is also unacceptable.
5. Not being able to open more than one case is absurd. In my situation, we're dealing with 2 different issues but for some reason, one is related to the other in the system.
6. Where is the repair charge dispute process documentation?
7. The is no exception to the "normal" escalation process is a huge gap. Basically I was told that after the supervisor level, it goes to the "warehouse". No one can talk to the wareshouse without going through the 48 hour escalation process.
8. Tell customer that damage maybe water related when the battery has no record of such.
You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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Hi
I faced a similar situation as you. My power button went wonky and I sent it in to HTC for servicing. It was a very tiring ordeal for me.
The HTC support (in Singapore) kept insisting that my motherboard needed a replacement and they wanted to charge me for it as I had an unlocked bootloader and was unable to claim warranty.
I kept arguing with their phone support that I just wanted my power button fixed and I was skeptical that that required a motherboard replacement. They kept insisting that I needed to replace my motherboard in order fix the power button.
As I was getting nowhere with phone support( I spent 3 days arguing with them) I made a trip down to their service center to try to speak to the engineer actually servicing my phone.
Had a similar argument with the CSO there who repeated the same BS to me and finally said she will go inside and have the engineer come out to explain further. So I waited. After several minutes (of which i believe she was informing him that there was an angry customer outside), she emerged alone and said they will wave the charges for the button repair.
Do you know what disgusts me the most about this entire ordeal?
When i finally received my phone back from them, they repaired my power button but my boot loader remained unlocked!
They did not need to replace my motherboard!
IMO, HTC simply wanted to replace the motherboard cos I had an unlocked bootloader. What better way to make easy money then to milk me with an unnecessary but expensive repair simply cos I voided my warranty. It' s unethical and personally, HTC has lost any future business from me.
It ironic as I bought my phone from Google.
caysman said:
You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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I'm putting my money on an unlocked bootloader
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
TangBiz said:
All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction.
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Exactly my thought. I've had my phone repaired for almost a whole month now and I still have no hope of getting it back.
The customer service is nice but they are absolutely useless. Everything regarding the actual status of the phone has to be initiated by the escalation team or warehouse, and I highly doubt that they give a **** of the customers.
TangBiz said:
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
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Has this been resolved?
If you haven't unlocked the bootloader, then there's no reason to charge you for the repair. Definitely talk to a supervisor and don't be afraid to insist that the phone if fully covered under warranty and they need to replace the unit or repair it.
I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I'm getting my rooted/unlocked phone repaired for free. So yeah, it really is 50/50!
My headphone jack started wigging out and thinking there was a headset plugged in when there wasn't. I also explained that I started to see dust coming in underneath the screen in the bottom left corner.
I opted for a replacement. I got it the next day. New one is great. Bootloader was unlocked and no charge was issued.
I would be livid. How old was the original phone with the "broken motherboard"? April? Well all hardware defects are covered up to 1 year. If the phone casing shows no physical signs of abuse yet the motherboard is broken... then that is a ringer that it is a manufacture defect.... especially if you'd had the phone for 2 months.
If there are no signs of physical damage and the water sticker is clean then you have full entitlement to your warranty. This includes motherboard replacements.

Insurance repair incompetence...

I have mobile phone and gadget insurance included with my bank account and recently had to use it as my HTC HD2 went faulty.
I am a fairly experienced ROM flasher and have been creating my own WM 6.5 based ROMs for a while. When the fault started to happen (signal deteriorating and then constantly searching, sometime coming back after a soft reset, sometimes not) I spent a couple of days trying to resolve the issue myself. This included factory resetting, restoring the official ROM, installing a myriad of Radio ROMs, cleaning the internal GSM antenna contacts etc. All to no avail so I was pretty certain it was a hardware fault.
Lifestyle Services Group are the providers of the insurance and repair services and what a palaver. I sent it back in October and included a detailed description of the fault. It was returned a week later and as far as I can tell completely untouched with a note saying repaired. It wasn't. I contacted them and they apologised and said they would send out a pre-paid envelope and I should return it in this. When it arrived I thought 'oh no' as the pre-paid address had '2nd Return' written on it - obviously quite common for them not to get repaired first time then?
It has just arrived this morning and they have now removed the screen protector but the handset is still faulty It looks like they have tried to make it look like a new handset - one acronym IMEI? I contacted them and they said 'sorry we'll replace it now as it has been returned twice, here is a different department to send it to. Can you put a note in with the repair reference and what the postal cost is so we can refund it'
Now if only the Royal Mail online thing was working.....
Rant over
Andy
It's unlikely to be your insurance company doing the repair so I wouldn't pin the blame on them. They will have a contract with a company, probably OEM, to repair faults. Now you mention HTC; take a look at BBC's Watchdog site and take note on HTC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2011/10/htc_phones.html
In all fairness they have been reasonably quick to return the phone, however it is the total lack of doing anything with it or at least providing a report of what they supposedly did with it that is annoying. I received a generic letter both times I got it back that stated something like 'your phone has been repaired and tested based on the faults you outlined to us' There is no evidence that they have even taken it apart or even a fault report from the engineer who 'repaired' it.
I am sure they receive a lot of handsets that all they require is a factory-reset or a new battery, however I went out of my way to troubleshoot the issue and arrived at the conclusion that it was a hardware fault. I returned it to them as stock and factory reset with a detailed explanation of the fault included so they should have at least taken this into consideration when looking at the fault.
If I get another fault (when I eventually get a working phone back...) I will just say I lost it and put it in the bin rather than go through this again.
Andy
Well i am with LSG and when i dropped my zte blade in coke then claimed they couldn't fix it,i wanted the same phone again as i liked it but nope they couldn't offer me that i was given a crap selection! Was disappointed they couldn't offer the same phone. I just hope they don't do that to me in future!
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Sony broke my phone... What should I do?

Hi, all!
I've never thought I will write this story on some forum but now I'm totally clueless what should I do...
I was a happy owner of Z1 Compact with root and Android 4.1.1. After one year the headphone connector stopped working.
Official repair gave me a Z3 Compact in return. Cool!
After 5 months the jack connector started pausing the music, later one channel stopped working. Phone was rooted and running 4.1.1 same as previous. I've sent it to official repair centre and it returned 2 days later. Broken. Touch screen is not registering touch, image on the screen sometimes flickers and shifts to 3 different colors (broken motherboard?).
Oh, and headphone jack is still broken.
After contacting Sony and repair centre I was told that my warranty has ben canceled because of unauthorized changes in phone (root? they never told me).
I've exchanged emails for over two months and nothing. I've lost my phone.
What do you think, what should I do? I'm afraid that if I go to court I will be smashed to pieces by their lawyers and it will cost me much more than a new phone...
milu_ said:
Hi, all!
I've never thought I will write this story on some forum but now I'm totally clueless what should I do...
I was a happy owner of Z1 Compact with root and Android 4.1.1. After one year the headphone connector stopped working.
Official repair gave me a Z3 Compact in return. Cool!
After 5 months the jack connector started pausing the music, later one channel stopped working. Phone was rooted and running 4.1.1 same as previous. I've sent it to official repair centre and it returned 2 days later. Broken. Touch screen is not registering touch, image on the screen sometimes flickers and shifts to 3 different colors (broken motherboard?).
Oh, and headphone jack is still broken.
After contacting Sony and repair centre I was told that my warranty has ben canceled because of unauthorized changes in phone (root? they never told me).
I've exchanged emails for over two months and nothing. I've lost my phone.
What do you think, what should I do? I'm afraid that if I go to court I will be smashed to pieces by their lawyers and it will cost me much more than a new phone...
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Sorry, I know it's not very helpful, but I would recommend always removing root and restoring to stock firmware before sending any device in for warranty work. I hope someone can help, but I would say that Sony now have your IMEI blacklisted and you're scuppered.
Maybe try with the shipping company and see if it's insured up to a certain amount perhaps?
Cadabena said:
Sorry, I know it's not very helpful, but I would recommend always removing root and restoring to stock firmware
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I have thought about it but decided against - based on two previous cases when they didn't care about the root...
Hi @milu_ , here is direct from sony:
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Is the repair will cost?
If the problem is covered by warranty, repairs will be free.
If the problem is not covered under warranty or if the device is out of warranty, you will get a quote for the cost of repair. If you do not want to pay for the repair, we will return the device at a cost of 28.58 EUR. The cost includes the exam fee, shipping and administration.
After selecting the device can access information about the warranty and some price indications repair out of warranty.
So basicley , ask Sony to send you the phone as it is !.. You only be charge of 28 euros for check the phone and shipment !
Then remove the root and send it back
sebaa123 said:
Hi @milu_
So basicley , ask Sony to send you the phone as it is !.. You only be charge of 28 euros for check the phone and shipment !
Then remove the root and send it back
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Hi, thanks for input The problem is that I have received the phone back. They didn't ask me for any money for shipment or repairs. They've just sent it back and canceled my warranty.
I've asked them why they didn't ask me for money for the repair. They didn't mention anything that would resemble a answer to that question in around 20 emails we exchanged.
I've asked them if I could send the phone to them for repairs that I would pay for. They replied that my warranty is no longer valid. One woman from Sony (to whom i talked on the phone) said something along the lines "sorry but now you have no business with Sony" and the case is closed.
i always re-flash my Z3 compact before i send it to repair
Try getting legal or consumer advice from wherever deals with this kind of thing in your country.
Here in the UK although they could try and cancel the warranty, it doesn't remove automatic consumer protections under law. Sony would have to prove rooting caused the defect, otherwise they are still liable for the repair even without warranty.
But this would have to be done all in court, and most will not want to bother (even though county court is actually pretty cheap here and easy to do).

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