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Im getting some rather odd performance from the GPS..
I just got this thing out of the box, and know next to nothing about it.. so forgive me if this is a known issue or an easy fix..
I decided to mess with it a bit and went to "maps" and then "location" it puts me nowhere even near where I am..
so I tried "direction" and did "from my current location" to my office (4 miles away)
it cam up with sound direction, but when I started moving, it had my dot jumping all over the place. Showing me on one side of town, then 30 sec later 5 miles away..
I download an app that shows GPS status, and it shows good signal (7 satellites)
So, why is it behaving so wierd?
also, what are some other GOOD free navigation apps? I see many listed in the market, but I dont want to download them all, anyone have an opinion?

Do you have the GPS enabled in your settings?
G1 uses 2 ways to pin point your location:
1. Wireless networks (which I find never to be accurate)
2. Gps
Go to your Settings>> Security & Location
Try disabling your wireless and ONLY use GPS
Sorry but no good FREE Nav on the market yet, AndNav is still on the works for US

Wingnutt said:
also, what are some other GOOD free navigation apps? I see many listed in the market, but I dont want to download them all, anyone have an opinion?
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don't know how good it is but Nav4All i think it's called....i downloaded it this morning and i think it's a talkin nav cause you have to download the voice language you want to use. i haven't tried it yet but might be a good option

I saw TeleNav nominated as the best GPS navigation app by the Android Network. (this is their blog page where it is posted: http://blog.telenav.com/blog/2009/0...ne-vote-for-us-in-the-android-network-awards/). Should I get this service or is some other service like Google Maps available? Thanks for the help.

dmm0816 said:
don't know how good it is but Nav4All i think it's called....i downloaded it this morning and i think it's a talkin nav cause you have to download the voice language you want to use. i haven't tried it yet but might be a good option
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i use this... confusing at first but ya you can have the voice different ways. i gotta guys voice bc i have a feeling a girls voice will point me in the wrong directions...

The ONLY good nav program is copilot. All the others offload navigation to the provider's servers so require network connection and use up your data allocation - i.e. cost $$ to use.
If your location is jumping around by miles, then you are using cell tower location. It sets your position to the same position as the tower itself. GPS lock can sometimes take a long time. If the gps icon in the status bar is BLINKING or OFF, then you are definitely NOT getting a GPS position.

lbcoder said:
The ONLY good nav program is copilot. All the others offload navigation to the provider's servers so require network connection and use up your data allocation - i.e. cost $$ to use.
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if you have unlimited data, you're ok with the others. I used nav4all before i bought copilot. copilot is MUCH better, but nav4all does the job well enough.

abchiptop said:
if you have unlimited data, you're ok with the others. I used nav4all before i bought copilot. copilot is MUCH better, but nav4all does the job well enough.
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Absolutely not because you're tied in to network coverage.

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GPS Fix for Google Maps?

I know ppl use GPS test to get the GPS to be activated then launch google maps afterwards, is there not a reg key or another way other than having to launch 2 apps to get one to work?
Frontline said:
I know ppl use GPS test to get the GPS to be activated then launch google maps afterwards, is there not a reg key or another way other than having to launch 2 apps to get one to work?
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The reason people are using another app to initialize the GPS is because Google Maps default timeout is riduclously low. As someone who has read 99% of the GPS-related posts in the Kaiser forum, I do not believe there is any other way to do it.
That being said, I am far from a master of Windows Mobile, so if someone knows different, please correct me.
Treo is right. the google time out is pretty shallow, and and about 25-30 seconds. Just use Live Search, its a lot better in terms of the amount of crap it allows you to search for.
Plus, the time out isn't as shallow's as google. As long as you have COM4 selected you'll get a signal within 50-60 seconds from a soft reset. Otherwise once the port is already open its a matter of seconds.
Hmm... strange...
With Google maps installed, I have a GPS signal within about 10 seconds (7 or so), but with Windows Live I don't connect for almost 1 minute. I personally was thinking the new "my location" feature was helping the GPS in some way to narrow the search area.
I have also noticed that I can get a signal within my house without much trouble using google, but again Live Search rarely hooks up.
Am I alone in this finding?
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Hmm... strange...
With Google maps installed, I have a GPS signal within about 10 seconds (7 or so), but with Windows Live I don't connect for almost 1 minute. I personally was thinking the new "my location" feature was helping the GPS in some way to narrow the search area.
I have also noticed that I can get a signal within my house without much trouble using google, but again Live Search rarely hooks up.
Am I alone in this finding?
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what rom and radio are you using?
1.62.502.0 ROM
1.27.14.09 RADIO
Don't get me wrong, I'm not unhappy with it! I could care less if the GPS works in my house, I think I've mastered the bathroom and kitchen locations
Just noting an opposing observation I've had with my phone in the Portland Oregon Area.
Another observation I've had (it's been a few months since I have used Live Search) is that I can't find a person's house using the Live Search, while I can using the Google.
Finally, I find neither program really what I'd like - Google's only real downfall in my eyes is the lack of auto-updates when not on course (Live Search does this with a prompt). Live search fails because I know products can be faster to get the satellites, as well as lack of residential directions. Google also loads faster, and is the only one that could find the Intel location I work at (one of the largest and well known, would figure it's in both services!) Google also has the aerial view which is nice when trying to figure out massive parking lots (such as at an Intel Campus). Live Search won a few points back because I liked the movies listings, buggy voice searching and auto-updates, but not enough to make me use the product. I will probably be loading it up again sometime before the summer though just to see what sort of progress they have.
And that stoopid connection error poop
I have just gotten used to opening QuickGPS weekly, and gps tool each time. It takes just a few seconds to open GPSTool and start the thing, then close it, and most apps will work after that.
I find GoogleMaps to be poorly designed, albeit free. My biggest issue by far is the connection error. There's a place on the way to work where Google maps just stops, throws a "you have to have a connection" error, and the only option is quit. I quit, immediately restart, and it works from there. I've had that error in some very densely populated areas (River Oaks is the highest price homes, you can bet they have cell antennas in abundance around there, yet it happened around there yesterday.) If it needs to download maps, it can just keep tracking, and get the map when it can, or mention "waiting for map". Idealy you'd be able to cache, best would be able to define certain areas, and it wouldnt even have to download the maps if they havent updated.
Dont get me wrong, as usual Google has done some neat work here, but there are disctint design flaws that make it nearly unusable. So much so that if I dont need the traffic, and just want to see streets, I use tomtom.
sunglint said:
There's a place on the way to work where Google maps just stops, throws a "you have to have a connection" error, and the only option is quit. I quit, immediately restart, and it works from there. I've had that error in some very densely populated areas (River Oaks is the highest price homes, you can bet they have cell antennas in abundance around there, yet it happened around there yesterday.)
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What version of Google Maps are you running?
Frontline said:
I know ppl use GPS test to get the GPS to be activated then launch google maps afterwards, is there not a reg key or another way other than having to launch 2 apps to get one to work?
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The question is not WHY people open GPSTest before opening Google Maps.
The question is how to open both apps via a script, batch file, etc...
I would also like to know if it is possible....

Removed app? google maps + turn by turn

Hi,
A month or two ago I downloaded a promising app off the market (sorry, can't remember the name). It used google maps and provided turn by turn directions with voice cues. After wiping I can't find the app - does anyone remember what it was called? It seemed a little slow / too big for the Dream, but was much better than the other free mapping apps on the market now. I've googled and searched the forums a few times w/o coming up with anything. Thanks.
PS if this post is out of line since the app likely violated Google Map's API licensing, sorry, it was free and I don't see the harm.
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also interested in this app
I think the app you are talking about is 1-click-direction
Hmm... it looks close, but I don't think that's it. I could have sworn it had turn by turn directions, and the interface here doesn't look familiar. It's been a few of months so I suppose I could be forgetting, but really I thought I'd tested the turn by turn. No one else remembers seeing this? This probably would have been in end of May, or maybe early June.
It might be gNaviHelper, but I can't be sure - apparently I've used it before and my free trial is up. Is it worth $9?
I don't think there is any turn by turn navigation on the market yet. ANDNav2 would be the only app that has turn by turn but thats not fully functional yet in the US. There is telenav that has turn by turn, but its not available on the market you have to go to there website to download it. I use to have it and its pretty nice but after a couple months I thought it was a waste cause my JVC unit has built in navigation. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to blast me.
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I don't think there is any turn by turn navigation on the market yet. ANDNav2 would be the only app that has turn by turn but thats not fully functional yet in the US. There is telenav that has turn by turn, but its not available on the market you have to go to there website to download it. I use to have it and its pretty nice but after a couple months I thought it was a waste cause my JVC unit has built in navigation. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to blast me.
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Yes there is turn by turn navi apps (US) on the market and have been for sometime now.
-WisePilot
-CoPilot
-1click
-Waze
The only one worth the price of admission is copilot since it doesn't require a network connection to operate.
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The only one worth the price of admission is copilot since it doesn't require a network connection to operate.
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I'm with you on that one. Additionally it's only a 1 time +/- $35.00 charge. No monthly like Telenav.
Yeah co-pilot is the way to go.
I wonder if AndNav or something similar could be ported from navit, navit builds a data file from OSM data, but it halves the size of the OSM file and does turn by turn etc.
from what i can tell, co-pilot wants to take all of the california maps, even all the maps if i wanted them (1+gb) and put them on my phone?? it says not enough memeory but how do i get tit to save all that info on the sdcard??? did it tell me not enough space cuz the sdcard didnt have 1+gb?? cuz i just i didnt have room on my sdcard either. LOL! *slaps self with large trout* hahahhaa
I have been using nav4all, it seems to be a decent app. I can say that it is actively developed. I believe the developer is working on an android interface. Here is the link to the apk.
http://www.nav4all.com/install/inst...5_1075182500&adev=Windows:windows nt&wlng=eng
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from what i can tell, co-pilot wants to take all of the california maps, even all the maps if i wanted them (1+gb) and put them on my phone?? it says not enough memeory but how do i get tit to save all that info on the sdcard??? did it tell me not enough space cuz the sdcard didnt have 1+gb?? cuz i just i didnt have room on my sdcard either. LOL! *slaps self with large trout* hahahhaa
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Yes, CoPilot saves maps to your sdcard, not the phone.
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Yes, CoPilot saves maps to your sdcard, not the phone.
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CoPilot needs about 2GB free initially to unpack the map data. After it is unpacked, it only takes up about 1.1GB of space.
depends on the map.....
Europe takes 1.9GB
the app is well worth it!
ChrisAshton84 said:
Hi,
A month or two ago I downloaded a promising app off the market (sorry, can't remember the name). It used google maps and provided turn by turn directions with voice cues. After wiping I can't find the app - does anyone remember what it was called? It seemed a little slow / too big for the Dream, but was much better than the other free mapping apps on the market now. I've googled and searched the forums a few times w/o coming up with anything. Thanks.
PS if this post is out of line since the app likely violated Google Map's API licensing, sorry, it was free and I don't see the harm.
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what i have installed for turn by turn is nav4all on the market its FREE too. you also have an option for a nice female voice. tho the UI is actually pretty ugly and u may have to get used to it. but it well worth it for being free.
If you live in the city, it really doesn't matter which option you pick, as long as you like it.
Unfortunately, if you're in (or going to be in) an area with very little GSM coverage, co-pilot would *seem* like the best option since it doesn't need a cell signal to operate.
The problem I've had is that co-pilot loves to forget that it has been registered. Unfortunately, it won't tell you this until you're trying to shave an hour off your road trip by hopping off the interstate and going through the woods...and don't have a phone signal.
Andnav2 works pretty well in the US. It is much better than the other options, and does not require a data connection for navigation.
Nav4all
it called nav4all

HD7 GPS issue???

I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
You could be standing indoors or somewhere where there's not a good enough GPS signal, or you may have location services switched off.
jtphl said:
I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
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You are not alone. I started a thread where I called it =garbage. I don't want to generalize just in case it's a hardware issue on my part but it always shows my location in a different city and when using the GPS on maps it seems to always be trying to catchup.
GPS settings
How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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I believe you're right about the meaning of the radius of the circle in the stock map app. But, it probably isn't as obvious in other kinds of apps that use GPS.
I'm gonna shoot ms an email regarding this...and I suggest that anyone else that agrees that this is less than ideal do the same. Its too late to have them do anything about it in the upcoming January update, but if they hear enough complaints about it, maybe they'll do something about it in the update after that one.
Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Jim, if the battery on my HD7 were more robust, I would agree with you. But it's not...so I don't. I would like the option to utilize only tower/WiFi triangulation...and to be able to enable my GPS only when I need my location to be precisely determined.
You are right...it does just work...which was more than I could say for my Vibrant's GPS for quite a while. But, access to any setting that could help me milk some more life out of my battery is access that I want.
GPS ?!?
I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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How wide is the circle around the dot? It may be using the Cell tower / WiFi to determine your position and therefore be very inaccurate.
What country are you in?
I guess it's possible that the actual maps are wrong and are showing the incorrect map overlay for your country?
after reading this thread i tested my HD7 with the bing map and its accurate, showed me where i am i changed to aerial map to confirm it...
i believe the data (3G) have to be connected, i am on unlimited data plan so its on all the time, wifi do not work as i tested with the wifi after that and it showed my location far away from my home...
this should fix everyones issue Go to setting and select find my phone check box both opitions and now try bing maps again. you will also notice well driving bing maps will keep a better track well your moving
did that and it now works perfectly, previously it was over a mile off my actual location
Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
pongpatara said:
Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
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Mate, this issue was happen to me in Bangkok too,
I try many apps to fix this, but the result was same..
I see my location was stand in somewhere on the sea at Europe.
That's suck...
Make them REAL MS !!
hd7 no gps please help
gps dosent work on google maps when i flash back to old rom gps works
As far as I know location services do not use GPS exclusively. It uses GSM cell and tower info as well to speed up approximation and let enough time for GPS satellite locking. GSM cell data is stored in internet databases (do not know where and how) but if there is a mislocated tower (e.g.i Thailand) your location might be determined in a wrong way.
To keep it simple M$ hidden this mixed mode location service. I don't know what happens if you switch off location service in settings and use a GPS application for locating yourself. Is there a difference? Might be.

GPS Settings and Fixes

Due to a pretty high demand of people that have been PMing me about my GPS I would like to write up this short help guide that works for me and many other people that have tried these settings.
1. I would like to point everyone to this thread, the Solder fix did wonders on my phone and many others that have done it, it REALLY Does work and it REALLY does work well. If you know someone that can, or if you can solder yourself, DO IT, you will be very happy with the out come.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
I Take no credit for the above fix as it put together by a few people, it really helped many people to get their GPS working properly, the solder step only added to it.
2. This is a step by step guide to MY settings that work on any rom that does not have a broken GPS kernel and always has great results.
A. Head to the Market and download SGS Tools, or search XDA for it.
B. Tuen off your GPS and Wireless Networks
C. Open SGS tools and click on Secret Codes
D. Click on GPS- Test and Settings (LBSTestMode)
E. Click on Application Settings, Change Operation mode to MS BASED
F. Go back one menu and click on SULP/CP Settings and change server to supl.google.com Port number 7576
G. Go back to the main GPS test menu and click Delete GPS Data
H. Reboot
I. Once fully rebooted, turn on your GPS ONLY, do not check use wireless networks.
J. Go outside, REALLY GO OUTSIDE, dont be lazy if you want this to work, Start up maps, or Nav and give it 3-5 minutes, you should have strong lock.
K. If you STILL CANNOT Get a lock, proceed to the next steps...
L. Head to the Markget and down load GPS Status
M. Open the app, click options, click tools, hit manage A-GPS state and hit download.
N. Let the app sit, WHILE YOU ARE OUTSIDE, you should now see a lock within a few minutes or so...
Anytime there after if you cannot get a lock, open GPS Status and redownload the A-GPS State and it should see a lock everytime. These are the settings I have been using for months and they work flawlessly on any rom I have been onm, as long as the Kernel allows it. Give it a shot, even if you dont apply the solder fix (But I cant stress enough to give it a go, it sounds a lot scarier then it really is and it will do wonders for your phone. Feel free to PM if you have any other questions and I will do my best to help
I think solder fix is not required for GPS devices after Oct 2010.
Anyways, what's difference in results for MS BASED and MS ASSISTED ?
neobuddy89 said:
I think solder fix is not required for GPS devices after Oct 2010.
Anyways, what's difference in results for MS BASED and MS ASSISTED ?
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thats what i want to know too
THis is what Google/ Wiki turned up
Standalone - The handset has no connection to the network, and uses only the GPS satellite signals it can currently receive to try to establish a location.
MS Based - The handset is connected to the network, and uses the GPS signals and a location signal from the network.
MS Assisted - The handset is connected to the network, uses GPS signals and a location signal, then relays its 'fix' to the server. Which then uses the signal strength from the phone to the network towers to further plot the user's position. Users can still maintain voice communication in this scenario, but not 'Internet/Network service', (i.e. Web browser, IM, streaming TV etc.)
MS Assisted/Hybrid - Same as above, but network functionality remains. Normally only in areas with exceptional coverage.
Great work Sols and Wood!!
Just in case anyone was looking for SGS Tools because I am not seeing it in the market. There is an SGS Toolbox in there but that is slightly different that this one. Do yourself a favor if you use GPS. Use Sol's settings and it will drastically improve your locks. I tend to drive on some backward country roads that don't have names, but rather numbers and the GPS always gets me right to the front door of my destination.
If you download the apk, click the thanks button. This isn't in the market anymore, fyi.
Thanks Woodrube, your the man!
Thanks Woodrube for popping in this app
Woodrube said:
Just in case anyone was looking for SGS Tools because I am not seeing it in the market. There is an SGS Toolbox in there but that is slightly different that this one. Do yourself a favor if you use GPS. Use Sol's settings and it will drastically improve your locks. I tend to drive on some backward country roads that don't have names, but rather numbers and the GPS always gets me right to the front door of my destination.
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Thanks Woodrube for popping in this app, when I am at the market after I download my paid apps (87), it is hard to remember all of the free apps that I need to download as well.
I'll give this a try when I get home tonight. I can get GPS locks on Froyo, but on GB or ICS roms it takes a long time to connect, if at all. Sometimes I have to reboot the phone (not really practical) and it'll give me a lock instantly.
Shame sgstools fc's when trying to access secret codes part for GPS.
I also tried to access lbstestmode settings from the old dialer numbers options but doesn't work for ICS.
Shame.... Would love to take a look at this.
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Shame sgstools fc's when trying to access secret codes part for GPS.
I also tried to access lbstestmode settings from the old dialer numbers options but doesn't work for ICS.
Shame.... Would love to take a look at this.
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Yup, FCs when hitting the GPS part of secret codes. Using ExROM
Globespy said:
Shame sgstools fc's when trying to access secret codes part for GPS.
I also tried to access lbstestmode settings from the old dialer numbers options but doesn't work for ICS.
Shame.... Would love to take a look at this.
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Same here, running ICZ.
SGStools doesn't work for ICS ROMs. Never had and probably never will. Need to use something like AngryGPS or the like.
any suggestions on getting this to work on ics?
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I'll test that when I get home, I just want to test it because I want faster locks. Last night I was testing the gps on paranoid 2.5.0 with Devil kernel 1.7.5 I these are my results. Again I need to know if I do this will lock the sats faster. Thanks in advance for this info!
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honest reviews of the gps on 8.9 att lte

ppl said that the built-in gps for the 8.9 is great...is not true.
currently i don't have any data plan with att on my 8.9. just using the 8.9 via wifi. well google maps recently allowed the download of maps for offline use. well i download offline map for nyc and was testing outside today. it was bright sunny day. i tested outside in midtown of manhattan for about 10 minutes and then downtown for another 20 minutes.
here is the result i got:
1. i loaded google maps and it wasn't able to find me when i was in midtown. the device was turn on for about 10 minutes. as soon i was near bryant park which have free wifi and connected to it, google map was able to find me right away.
2. then i travel downtown and was outside for about 20 minutes and it was searching for satellites and can't find me where i'm located. i was not near any free wifi. so i gave up.
so i think either google map either require data to work properly or the built in gps for the 8.9 is not that great or doesn't work at all.
i heard another offline gps map program called locust. i will do testing with that app later this week and will let you guys know the result.
any1 here also have the same result as me, please post your opinions here also. thx.
Nope.
However, I am using the P7300 non-LTE, non-US flavor.
Tablets have room for big-ass antennae, especially for GPS and they will usually get a steady lock without aid. It still is A-GPS, though (as in Assisted-GPS, meaning it uses all available data to get a lock - network cell towers, wi-fi networks in range, sensors and satellite data).
Mine gets a lock even inside an apartment building. Maybe you should have it looked at, if your warranty applies.
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Nope.
However, I am using the P7300 non-LTE, non-US flavor.
Tablets have room for big-ass antennae, especially for GPS and they will usually get a steady lock without aid. It still is A-GPS, though (as in Assisted-GPS, meaning it uses all available data to get a lock - network cell towers, wi-fi networks in range, sensors and satellite data).
Mine gets a lock even inside an apartment building. Maybe you should have it looked at, if your warranty applies.
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Which offline mapping apps are you using?
I'm not sure it's only the wifi availability that's the differentiator here. You went from within a city that has extremely high buildings (where you got no gps sats) to an open park with open sky (where you suddenly locked on to sats) and then back into the city with the high buildings again..... See where I'm going with this.
Maybe I'm off on my assumption but you can't blame me for thinking it.
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I'm not sure it's only the wifi availability that's the differentiator here. You went from within a city that has extremely high buildings (where you got no gps sats) to an open park with open sky (where you suddenly locked on to sats) and then back into the city with the high buildings again..... See where I'm going with this.
Maybe I'm off on my assumption but you can't blame me for thinking it.
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The park has high buildings around it too. When I was walking to the park and was near the park, it still couldn't find any satellites until I use the park free wifi.
For the ppl that got the gps working w/o wifi or any data plan? Can you confirm what map apps are u using? Can you elaborate how u got ur 8.9 gps working w/o wifi or any data plan?
Maybe let's all here do an experiment, go outside, turn off ur wifi and 4g and see if ur google map are able to find where u r with ur gps on only w/ offline map for google map? Please report back ur result. Thx.
vincentnyc said:
The park has high buildings around it too. When I was walking to the park and was near the park, it still couldn't find any satellites until I use the park free wifi.
For the ppl that got the gps working w/o wifi or any data plan? Can you confirm what map apps are u using? Can you elaborate how u got ur 8.9 gps working w/o wifi or any data plan? Maybe let's all here do an experiment, go outside, turn off ur wifi and 4g and see if ur google map are able to find where u r?
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I can use only the internal gps without wifi and find my location indoors using Maps app.
Sats aren't always directly overhead in the sky so it could have everything to do with time of day and where they are located in the sky. Hence my buildings and open park comment.
*Haven't had to do this on this tab but maybe your location files are messed up from something you installed or maybe you have a tab with foreign location information here in the states. Maybe try the info at the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17081413&postcount=1
Jiggity Janx said:
I can use only the internal gps without wifi and find my location indoors using Maps app.
Sats aren't always directly overhead in the sky so it could have everything to do with time of day and where they are located in the sky. Hence my buildings and open park comment.
*Haven't had to do this on this tab but maybe your location files are messed up from something you installed or maybe you have a tab with foreign location information here in the states. Maybe try the info at the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17081413&postcount=1
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you said you can use your internal gps w/o wifi using maps app...is that google maps? were you on wifi and then you turn off your wifi? if you did, i think maps aka google map will remember your last location even w/o wifi. can you try again when you are outside w/o any wifi and report back your result? thx.
Btw i dont physically have any 4g sim card in my device...dunno if that has anything to do with it?
hmmmm...found an interesting specs:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/12/15/bell-samsung-galaxy-tab-8-9-lte-review/
- WiFi (b/g/n), Bluetooth 3.0, A-GPS
noticed it said a-gps. a stands for assisted. that means the 8.9 doesn't really have a physical gps chip and will need data in order to get gps to work properly.
any1 has who has a 8.9. can you try this for me and report back the result? can you go into settings > locality> gps and check only gps and UNCHECK assisted gps for mobile network use by google etc.. so just check the middle for gps and uncheck all the rest, which i below is the first and third related to A-GPS or anything with google.
now go into google map and see if your gps still work and find where you are?
Quick search found this thread. Unfortunately he doesn't state how he found the tablet has internal GPS and there are no follow on comments to confirm/deny. But seems that someone would have caught and corrected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271350
Also I always have assisted gps turned off because I don't particularly like Google knowing everywhere I am, anonymous or not.
Could be my brief experiences with it are a fluke as I just have started playing with this tab and have been more concerned with other stuff working. But nonetheless that's what I've experienced.
Jiggity Janx said:
Quick search found this thread. Unfortunately he doesn't state how he found the tablet has internal GPS and there are no follow on comments to confirm/deny. But seems that someone would have caught and corrected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271350
Also I always have assisted gps turned off because I don't particularly like Google knowing everywhere I am, anonymous or not.
Could be my brief experiences with it are a fluke as I just have started playing with this tab and have been more concerned with other stuff working. But nonetheless that's what I've experienced.
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hmmmm...u have 8.9 and have assisted off? which version of 8.9 do you have, wifi only or lte version? can you state your os and can do a screen shot with your gps working with google map? how does it takes your 8.9 to lock to a satellites?
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hmmmm...u have 8.9 and have assisted off? which version of 8.9 do you have, wifi only or lte version? can you state your os and can do a screen shot with your gps working with google map? how does it takes your 8.9 to lock to a satellites?
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i957 LTE version running... in between right now. About to install CM10 fresh again and reload all my data.
Hmmm... Not sure when this became about me showing my tab. Again, was just stating my experience. I'll look at it again when I load CM10 from scratch. I usually poke around on here when I'm not at home doing more worthwhile stuff. I may have time in the next couple of days.
Jiggity Janx said:
i957 LTE version running... in between right now. About to install CM10 fresh again and reload all my data.
Hmmm... Not sure when this became about me showing my tab. Again, was just stating my experience. I'll look at it again when I load CM10 from scratch. I usually poke around on here when I'm not at home doing more worthwhile stuff. I may have time in the next couple of days.
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hmmm...i maybe interested in loading cm10 and if i can get my gps to work properly. what os is cm10? is that still honeycomb version? what is the pros and cons of cm10? is the con cm10 that the camera and usb charging doesn't work?
Use app like "Gps status & toolbox". It tells you how many satellites are locked
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&hl=en
I know my 7300 has real gps, but I can't speak for your LTE model
fred_be9300 said:
Use app like "Gps status & toolbox". It tells you how many satellites are locked
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&hl=en
I know my 7300 has real gps, but I can't speak for your LTE model
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Thx...installed this app....see attached screenshot.
Here are my settings:
Wifi turn on
Inside my apt
Use of wifi or mobile network aka agps are turn off
Gps turn on
Only able to lock to 1 satellite. But google map still not able to locate me.
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Only able to lock to 1 satellite. But google map still not able to locate me.
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It takes at least 3 sats to locate you (spherical intersections and all that). So I'm not surprised you are not located in this instance.
Dude... Inside you can't use gps... It needs a line of sight with satellites in the sky... Jeez, please lookup gps on Wikipedia...
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Dude... Inside you can't use gps... It needs a line of sight with satellites in the sky... Jeez, please lookup gps on Wikipedia...
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Well one poster here were able to work inside his house. Go look up in previous post. Anyway I will test this out outside today, beautiful clear day today. But I don't expect any gps to work properly. Will report back result later.
Inside a building, gps might work near windows, or under a glass roof or so. Surrounded by concrete, it is impossible. But a device might position you based on cell towers or a database of locations for WiFi routers, as Google has built up.
was walking to work today. here are my settings and results:
wifi - turn off
agps - turn off
gps - turn on
clear sunny day, outside for about 5 minutes. got 3 satellite to locked from that app i installed last night.
google map and locus still UNABLE to locate me. see attachments for my results.
well at least i was right that gps won't work for me...lol

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