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Touch-IT, wm6 wwe with touchflo

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327276
this was beta, go to other thread

Nice work, im sure there are alot of people waiting to try this out. Keep it up
Cheers

Hi my friend itje..!
Nice work.Good luck for u..
Tom_codon

Is the touchflo/cube ACTIVATED by button or by sliding finger from top of screen to bottom? I might try this later tonight

wait. whats the difference between this one and the PDAVIET Touch Flo Professional one.

after bricking my wing twice i finally got it working some problems though .... the top right corner seems to not work well with hands you have to use the stylus to close stuff ...... the keyboard layout is all messed up the alt keys dosnt match up to what is pressed ....so far thats all i can tell ...storage is 26 MB on hard reset and Program is 12.35 MB .. not sure what page pool that might be maybe its default 12...kinda fast no real lags....thats all i can tell from now ..hope i was helpful

shotya9times said:
after bricking my wing twice i finally got it working some problems though .... the top right corner seems to not work well with hands you have to use the stylus to close stuff ...... the keyboard layout is all messed up the alt keys dosnt match up to what is pressed ....so far thats all i can tell ...storage is 26 MB on hard reset and Program is 12.35 MB .. not sure what page pool that might be maybe its default 12...kinda fast no real lags....thats all i can tell from now ..hope i was helpful
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Thx for trying
There is a problem with the keyboard and the wing, its diffrent then the p4350, I dont know how to adress that issue.
If you go to options on the x-button, you can decide between holding x down a short time to end program <---(default) the other optionis end by clicking on x.
As told before, I was not gonna do WAY to much on this rom, ppl change and altar anyways. Pagepool is by default, but on this very site there is info on how to deal with the pagepool.
hope it works fine for thos who wants to try

any screenshots?

I was way to late up last night upping this, so didnt have the time, but ill do them later this evening

I was falling asleep already during the upgrade and turned everything off and was going to reply in the morning but on my way to bed i started to play with it and i had to come back on to compliment you. Great job! if this is your first run what a great job you did. You made me feel like i got this from Windows themselves. Easy to use and all the start ups were as Mobile 6 are. i like the layout and settings. I will agree that the file seems heavy but i think its the pagepool.
Very impressed buddy. If you accept donations i would gladly give cause this version has alot of what people have been aslong for. PDA still offers more options for people that need more gadgets but you kept it simple and thats great.
One thing though dude whats with the little green monster man... Not the first thing i wanted to see waking up lol Again nice job and honestly i would look forward to future work of yours!

bew'e'ful !!
truely bew'e'ful ... !!
i've been at this for a couple days now... bricked my phone a few times... had a panic attack once ... tried pdaviet ... plugged away and came across yours...
NICE !!!
VERY NICE WORK !!!
if you 'cooked', made, or created this yourself ... let me know how to donate.
others have asked for screenshots... if you can tell me how i'll do so and post them for the t-mobile wing...
THANKS!

hopefully this one will work, i will give it a try this evening. it seems to be the perfect version cause other people really like it - like i read in this thread.

Lol, brick #1. Failed, cause PC cut the connection all of a sudden.

Awww, why did you change the default theme wallpapers?

Maybe i'm forgetting something but with this rom the touchflo isn't working for me either, i selected it also manual by clicking the program icon, tried to press every button on the device but nothing shows up.
Is this a common problem and is there something to do about it ? I had the same problem with the PDAVIET roms.
Rest of the rom looks nice, will change pagepool to 6 and runs very smooth.
Good stuff mate

Run the TFsettings program found in Programs and select a way to make it popup!

thx
well, im kinda surprised of all the positive feedback, thats nice.
if you guys wanna donate, give it to tom codon and anichillus. I would like that better. they deserve it, they made touchflo possible and cooking possible for herald.
So if you like my release, please donate to them.
regarding heavy size. i figured by reading around the forum, that ppl experience diffrent results on same device when flashing in.ex a 6mb pagepool. So I decided to leave it up to you guys to flash the pagepool you want, since thats so easy now flashing the pagepool via activesynk.
regarding the little green guy in my theme, was just 4 fun, I have not decided what to use when I release my future roms.
I will spend some time on research 4 awhile, I really want to og deeper into tweaking the rom, and try to gain more knowlege about the registry and how it works.
I will do alot of testing on the rom as I modify it. i want to be sure that everything (as good as) is working properly before I give it out

Sorry if discussed before, but is there a possibility to have a Finger Scrolling (in standard Contacts, IE, etc.) without installing the whole ROM? In a sort of CAB file?
Thanks in advance.

I was thinkink bout the same thing
Just finger scrolling without the useless cube would be great but after reading some other threads I assume, that the need for the whole ROM would apply to this as well

babicka said:
Just finger scrolling without the useless cube would be great but after reading some other threads I assume, that the need for the whole ROM would apply to this as well
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why do you say "useless cube"? i think its a nice extra

Novice Wing Modder with Some Questions....

Hey folks, I got my Wing a couple of weeks ago and I love it. I had a treo before, and this makes me much happier. I had gotten into modding the UI a bit and playing around with the best combos of third-party software on my old treo, so I started playing with my Wing. Well, I've gotten probably mid-level with my technical modding competency thus far. I'm comfortable with most progs and mods I've found below actually flashing the ROM, and I'd think about that too, but I've gathered that most of the TF roms out have trouble on the Wing. So far, I'm overclocked to 260, tweaked some stuff in the registry, installed the HTC Touch UI minus the cube and all that, but I'm not quite happy. So, I have some questions:
On the HTC Home 5 tab skin:
1. Is there any way to put custom icons in the launcher area? Not just style-wise(though that would be good), but that link to things that aren't on the list? I'd really love to but a button that would take me to "settings" in there, like the one that takes you to "programs". I have a few other ideas too.
2. On the weather tab, I know there is a way to add cities to the "select city" list by getting the city code off of accuweather.com and changing the registry, but I can't figure out how to get the code for my city when I look it up on the site...I search it, and it comes up, but where is the code?
3. I put the HTC black theme on here, but I wondered, are there any others available? I know I've seen a blue one, and I think I've seen pictures of an HTC Touch that had a red theme....
Other Stuff:
1. I tried to up my page pool to 6mb like it says in the "all you need to know" thread, but the preparation app wont work....I install it, but nothing happens after that....I can't find it to open or anything else...Is installing it enough?
2. Is there any way to keep wm6 from putting the recently used programs on the start menu?
3. Is there any way to change the two links on the bottom bar that the soft keys are mapped to? Not change what the keys are mapped to, but like, change "Calendar" to "Settings" or "Contacts" to "Messaging", for example?
4. Is there anything out there that would let me navigate my phone with my finger? I know certain programs have this capability, like Opera Mobile's latest beta and PocketCM(which I use), but I'd like it on all windows that require scrolling....
Apps:
1. Anyone know the best app to use to stream radio and/or tv on my phone?
2. What's the best way to watch youtube? I wouldn't ask, but I've found like three or four different threads/articles on ways to do it, and I don't know which I should use. I prefer to use Opera as my browser, but I can use PIE now and then, if the process actually lets me watch it in my browser....
3. Can ya suggest any good games?
Well, thanks in advance for any help you can give. I've been trolling here for a while, so I know there are some very smart people here and I have faith. Sorry for asking so much, and forgive me if I should have broken this up a bit into different threads, but I'm trying to perfect my phone, and this was basically what was left on my list....Any other tips on how to achieve my goal of making a nice, clean, finger-friendly UI and putting the picking the best apps would be appreciated too.
Peace.

Ok, I figured out the HTC weather thing, and the today softkey thing, so I'm good there. Any help on the rest?

I can cover a few for you but any more's gonna cost ya....
flash your phone with either of the touch roms out right now and you will be able to finger scroll in nearly all applications.
try avotmv, or search using google for similar programs for streaming videos(avotMv includes youtube as well as google).
Many streams to tv stations can be opened with WMP directly which makes it alot easier to connect to them by saving them as PIE favourites. You just need to find 'em first, I would suggest doing that from your computer first.
I've recommended Flux Challenge before, ill do it again...apart from that I don't run too many games from my pocket pc. Seal Volleyball is kinda fun too.
Maybe some others can assist you with the rest
cheers

Is it ok that I'm completely overwhelmed?

I literally just bought my at&t tilt today, and when I bought it the guy I got it from suggested I come here to do some digging on modifying/personalizing my Tilt to my liking. Now, I'm somewhat of a computer nerd. I can work through most issues with my PC without having to call customer service or hit up forums or anything. I have no experience with pocket PCs or windows mobile however.
I've read the multiple notices here advising to read around first before asking dumb questions, but I have to say that I'm still completely lost and don't even know where to begin. I really don't have complicated intentions, I'm almost 100% satisfied with the phone as-is...regardless, I still just have no idea what to even start with, so I figured I would just throw that out there and hopefully get pointed in the right direction. Hopefully I'll be able to take it from there, but the tutorials, wikis, and FAQs that I was advised to browse through first (and I apologize if I'm just not seeing it, again I'm a WM noob) just aren't getting me there.
All I'm really interested in doing is changing my home screen. Other things I want to do I don't even know if it's possible to do so, or if I even have to download anything!
So maybe just one more shove in the right direction?

Try This
This is not going to change your rom......This will give a new look totally...I think you'll like it...Install it from your desk top
Peace
Mike

You should get a good start at the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.

deXtrous said:
IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.
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I agree here

pointUI
Wisbar advance (check out the skins for this app..)
If you know a bit of XML try RLtoday
oh, and search for "Ultimate launch" on the forum...

ummm check out the second link in my sig.

I'm in the same boat as you. There is so much information here, it's quite overwhelming. I want to get the most out of my device, but I just don't have he time to really get into it.

Well you have to start somewhere, so just say where you want to go.
Would you like to make the phone look different?
Would you like to add your own ringtones?
Themes?
gps stuff?
roms?
seriously look at the second link in my signature.

I suggest that you use it for a while to get used to it, then read, then try changing it. Just my 2 cents.

I'm guessing your question is more basic than the answeres provided. If you just want to change your today screen, check out the "Today" applet under "Settings" on the start menu. You can choose from a variety of default plugins, and some of them have options you can change (simply click the options button if it's enabled). As you install more apps, they may have Today Screen plugins as well.

DO NOT GO THROTTLE LAUNCHER.... i like the guy that developed it but it has become obsolete with manilla 2d, personally i stayed away from flashing for a long time but now that i have started i'm addictted it provides alot better preformance from your ppc, i would highly recommend it
my favorite rom right now is the garmin dk4 manilla just make sure you read up before, its not that complicated once you get the hang of it. biggest thing is make sure to flash hard spl before you flash anything else

Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
Keep your Kaiser/TyTN II/Tilt, whatever it is, as stock standard as possible. Do not flash new roms etc etc. This is the cause of most problems here unless you are really clued up on this, which it seems you are not at the moment. I won't even try it.
There are many third party apps out there and in here which will not affect the normal functioning and enjoyment of your device. Most of them are freeware.
Today themes are dime a dozen, heck, you can create your own with freeware apps like ThemegenCE (Desktop app which creayes the Tsk file for your device theme and even TKCreator which is a theme creation app directly on your device I (Also freeware and more basic than the former).
You need Total Commander, a freeware File Explorer much better than than one shipped wth the device. Quickmenu 2.7 makes using the device a pleasure and hardly requires the stylus. This provides a task manager, drop down menus, controls for device utilities like bluetooth, wifi, soft resetting etc. You also need Mortplayer which is the best MP3 player and is freeware and of course TCPMP with flashvideo bundle for video clips/movies/flash video from websites etc. This all for free. Heck, here are even freeware GPS apps for navigation out there, eg Amaze GPS and Nav4All, or just go full hog and buy the best like TomTom. TodayAgenda is a Today Plugin for calendar appointments and is one of the best and totally free. S2U2 developed by A_C from XDA is a cool screen saver/slide to unlock app which is free and highly customisable with animated gifs as wallpaper etc.
This would be a good start for you.
Regards,
MAC

MACkjam said:
Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
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I am also more than half a century old (now grand father !) and I agree with MAC advices !!!

@chefs: reward offer for "task-snoozing"

Dear Chefs,
thank you for all great work you have done so far!
I use the Energy ROM for about two months and I'm stunned about all the great features he provide.
However, there is one thing I can't stand: The lack of appointment- and task snoozing other then 5 minutes. This makes the remind function almost useless.
My German t-mobile branded TP2 (called: MDA Vario V) came with the option to snooze appointments and tasks by a selectable time. So I could choose remind me in one or half Hour for example or one day and many other options, rather than dismiss it over and over again every 5 minutes. This is really bugging me.
I found a fix from crackwhore but it seems to be not compatible with the current windows mobile 6.5 ROMs.
Because it is so important to me and, as I noticed, to many, many others I want to post a reward and invite everybody who want this feature to join me by posting how much you are willing to donate to the person who find a solution and share it with the community
A proper solution would be a fix that works for the latest generation of WM6.5 ROMs and it would be great to have it already cooked into the popular ROMs, including Energy ROM.
So if somebody finds a solution, everybody who joined me is asked to donate the promised amount to the person who provided the solution.
I start off with a offer of 10$
Feel free to join me and make suggestion.
And please be true to your word: Don't offer something you are not willing to donate.
Current Offers (25.10.2009 01:25 UTC):
10 US-$
and
0 €​

Why dont you ditch MS with another commercial application in the market? Couldn't you able to find one? I dont remember it but there was a program like this. Google it I suggest.

You can set the "reminder" time as any minutes/hours/days when you add an appointment. Am I missing something here?

NVM, I solved it! I was able to replace the new Notification.dll that handles the notification bubbles with an old, stock one. See the next post for the solution I made!
Question
Did your stock German ROM have the notification manager, where you'd click the taskbar, and it brings up that full screen? And also, did it have the skinned notifications, like the EnergyROM does? Please just describe exactly how the stock ROM handled the notifications, describe it visually.
Information
I researched this for 5 hours, and I was trying to do this: I wanted to make the Notification Panel remain (Full screen when you click on Taskbar), BUT, I wanted to use the standard Windows Mobile notification popups, because those allow you to snooze better. Well, that's not possible, from what I could tell. It's either all or nothing, you can't mix Microsoft's and HTC's notification system.
Solution
So, you have to disable the entire thing, which means you won't have the finger friendly notification system when tapping on the top taskbar. You can find the registry to disable Notification Manager here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4125405&postcount=3

Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!​

Imagine how fast the world is, I wish you could solve my break off with GF such a fast.
Have Fun, Cheers
Sunny

the solution that brings the old popups up, has been around since my touch x 6.0 and that is since december last year...
well well well......

Awesome. I had used the crackwhore one and it worked but this is better

ace10134 said:
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!​
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Curious before I use this, how is it different than crackwhore's fix?

jank0023 said:
Curious before I use this, how is it different than crackwhore's fix?
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FYI, crackwhore's is a better solution it doesn't eliminate the repeat function so what happens you get the alarm one time which was just as big a concern that I've had with some of the ROMs.

jank0023 said:
FYI, crackwhore's is a better solution it doesn't eliminate the repeat function so what happens you get the alarm one time which was just as big a concern that I've had with some of the ROMs.
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shiat..might I add, you can uninstall the cab but the dll has been overwritten so some how I gotta find the original and use crackwhore's or hard reset plus crackwhores.

smaberg said:
the solution that brings the old popups up, has been around since my touch x 6.0 and that is since december last year...
well well well......
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Lol dam. Wasted that effort for nothin? lol. Well we can add mine to the collection of CABs that do the exact same thing as the other

Hi,
sorry for the delay, but university was keeping me extremely busy this week.
However I'm glad you found a solution. It's so unimaginably convenient to be able to snooze the alarm!
However would it be possible to add some options? There is still room on the display for one option isn't it?
Very handy would be having options like four and twelve hours (half day).
I would rather surrender 10 minutes while already having 5 and 15 minutes.
(or maybe better: surrender 15 minutes while keeping 10)
However the current stage of development is already great and of cause I will stand my word of donating 10 bucks.
I invite everybody who like this fix to also support him since he was fair enough of not "waiting" for the bounty to increase first and he's doing a great job with his website anyway.
Best Regards, Time
PS: You are talking about other - already existing - solutions? I only found crackwhores fix and didn't get it to work. Well now I have a great one-click-solution I won't surrender ... would be just interesting to know.
PPS:
Question
Did your stock German ROM have the notification manager, where you'd click the taskbar, and it brings up that full screen? And also, did it have the skinned notifications, like the EnergyROM does? Please just describe exactly how the stock ROM handled the notifications, describe it visually.
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By next week I will flash my ROM anyway so I could flash the stock ROM in between and check if that helps. Interested?

TheTimetraveler said:
PPS:
By next week I will flash my ROM anyway so I could flash the stock ROM in between and check if that helps. Interested?
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Yea, flash the stock German ROM, and see how that operates. It'd be very interesting if they kept the advanced snooze options while keeping the slick notification style too.
I think that editing the DLL's is impossible though, but I guess it'd be worth a try. My initial goal was to keep the skinned notifications but add the snoozing. That'd be the optimal goal, and I will try to see if that can be done!

ace10134 said:
Advanced Notifications Power Snooze Appointments!
I solved it!! It's CABbed up, and available on my website, Wingster.
Get your solution here: http://thewingster.com/advancednotifications.aspx
And if you want to donate, then follow the link on the bottom of my Wingster website, or use this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195
Maybe I should have waited longer, for the bounty to increase! Nah, I did this mostly for myself, but it did end up taking 5 hours! I hate registries!
How I Created It
I found the old NotificationLayout.dll, and used that one for handling the notification bubbles! This brings back the old WinMo notification style popups, but it also keeps the finger friendly notification panel! Win-win!​
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Sorry ace
it doesnt work for my TP2 with valkyrie.ftp v5.8.23534 wm6.5 15th feb (without footprint\doc)
the cab installs fine but no love when it comes to notifications

spiro said:
Sorry ace
it doesnt work for my TP2 with valkyrie.ftp v5.8.23534 wm6.5 15th feb (without footprint\doc)
the cab installs fine but no love when it comes to notifications
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Yourestarted your phone after installing it, right? Maybe his ROM has some different notification system...I could try to look into it if you can confirm it still didn't take effect after a restart.

ace10134 said:
Yourestarted your phone after installing it, right? Maybe his ROM has some different notification system...I could try to look into it if you can confirm it still didn't take effect after a restart.
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Yes I restarted the phone after installation but it didnt work
I would reeeeeally Appreciate it if you could look into it
You dont even need to make a .cab file, just give me some guidance on how to replace the .dll you mentioned in your post that worked

spiro said:
Yes I restarted the phone after installation but it didnt work
I would reeeeeally Appreciate it if you could look into it
You dont even need to make a .cab file, just give me some guidance on how to replace the .dll you mentioned in your post that worked
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Well.....
First, download This File, unzip it, and place the DLL in the \Windows directory of your phone.
Now, here's where it may be different, apparently. Using a registry editor (like PHM Registry), try to find the string that is called CustomUIDLL and contains NotificationLayout.dll.
That string key should be located under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM, however since the CAB didn't work, Valkyrie must have changed the location of the registry key. See if you can find it. Once you do, change the string value to: "NotificationLayoutOld.dll"
Hopefully that'll get it working!

ace10134 said:
Well.....
First, download This File, unzip it, and place the DLL in the \Windows directory of your phone.
Now, here's where it may be different, apparently. Using a registry editor (like PHM Registry), try to find the string that is called CustomUIDLL and contains NotificationLayout.dll.
That string key should be located under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM, however since the CAB didn't work, Valkyrie must have changed the location of the registry key. See if you can find it. Once you do, change the string value to: "NotificationLayoutOld.dll"
Hopefully that'll get it working!
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Thanks man!
Ill try it and post back

spiro said:
Thanks man!
Ill try it and post back
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OK.
Under HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM i have one folder named "reminder" and 3 other items named "default", " customUIDLL", and "userdefaultUI"
if i click on customUIDLL the string already reads "NotificationLayoutOld.dll" ( iguess from when I applied the .cab file) so there is nothing to change!
Also here is a screenshot of the contents in the HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM/reminder folder that I mentioned above
should i be editing the autodismissextendedduration file?
BTW I forgot to mention that when i install the cab file instead of "snooze' at the bottom bar I get the "menu' on the right and also another symbol on the left (like a phone with an 'x' next to it" but if i click on any of them the notification goes away and does not come back
So in essence the .cab works (because it points it to something else) but the location it point to, doesnt contain the necessary file to show up when you click on the the "menu' icon or the other icon that comes up SORRY I DIDNT MENTION THAT EARLIER BUT I WASNT AWARE OF IT TILL NOW.....

[Q] Theme or Cookie 2.0 Question?

Hi folks;
OK here is a jump right in situation.. Suppose using the EnergyROM ver. " Energy.RHODIUM.29005.Sense2.5.Cookie.Dec.13 " you wanted to use some of the Home Screen graphics? Nor I have found all thegraphics for the flip clock and that works great changing the manila files in Photoshop CS5.
The one Gramhic I can't find guessing at the bars and testing is the one thats just under the main tip curtain and your location, etc. and it's the one thats rolled and small vertically, I'll just say the humpped up one? has the small line vertically in it and has on the rght the Alarm on or off and on the left the date... There now...whew..
OK I am trying to find the file name of that little graphic in eith manils or the theme name? Driving me nuts as I am trying to make the graphic background for that area flat and dart like the Sencity themed ROM.
If any one can give a little hand here I would really appreciat it!!!
Sincerey
Automan

I honestly have no clue what you're talking about. Can you post a screen shot with the item in question circled?
Oh, finally understood what you're asking for, will upload the files in question in a minute.
The Images are attached in both PNG & QTC format. The PNG filenames have notes to which part they are for. There are 6 images in total. These are my already skinned files btw, just a note.

drkfngthdragnlrd;
I wanted to personally thank you for the link to the Sencity images. I have them working and did a little touch up on them and made them look even better than before.
Sorry it took me some time t get back to you with this but I am in Flight Status Readiness runs right now and having to tighten up some of the marines and Navy pilots to get ready for a few things that may spring up..
I have already issued the new Manila sections to the teams an they have already mentioned that when dimmed it works perfectly!!
Think of what color youhave to make the Home Screen so that it was Dark with little Ambient out put and be very visible wit infra-red eyes?? That's a good one.
The way I do it is using the real thing and looking at the screen, but anyone can see it with the red lense of a pair of ZZ Top 3D Glasses for the 3d movies and use the red lense..
I really thank you for all the help.
Now I tring to get my hands on the STOCK HTC Icons for the phone, so that I can redo them for our needs. Are there any out on XDA as a set??
Thanks Again!!
Sincerely
Col. L.A. Hutcheson
aka Automan

drkfngthdragnlrd;
I forgot to ask you one more question on this ROM?? Is there any of the Original Start Icons out there on XDA " I have been looking " for them that come with the Stock ROM on the HTC web site for the Tilt2 flip out keyboard or actually it's just the new Touch Pro2. I just need the Images for the folders and the start sections.
I did find the stock "Check Boxes" & "ATT_Blue_Sense_Switches_and_Highlights", but I am just missing the original Start Folders and apps. If I get them I am going to change them to what color I need and not have any of then Shinny like Apple Button's..
If you know and can do more link to me I would greatly appreciate it.. Seems like you know where most of these type things are..
Thanks again for all the help..
Sincerely
Col. L.A. Hutcheson
aka Automan

I would suggest downloading Ervius Visual Kitchen. You can then dump the stock ROM of your choice to get said files. Also get WinRAR or 7Zip, with either you can "unzip" the ROM exe to get the .nbh file which you'll need to dump with the kitchen. Sense you want a stock set of icons, just go to HTC's website & get the ROM from there.

Merry Christmas drkfngthdragnlrd!!!
Thanks for the info, and I think I will jump that direction on the kitchen as if I need a new project, but it sounds interesting..Appreciate it.. I did call HTC Support yesterday and low and behold the support guy I talked with is here close to my home base and her spent 3 hours yesterday trying to get all of the image files from their stoch ROM and at about 6:00 pm est. time he called and emailed me a link.
I only have one small question for you now if you have the time.
The 20th of Dec. ENergyROM's have a problem it looks like on the post, that mentions getting rid of the Appointment Widget or something like that, I can do that, but I need to know if there is somewhere on the cell plone where you turn off the " XDA_UC "??
Here is the tweet posted on the Twitter site about the latest 20th Dec. ROM....
Note:
It seems having the tasks widget on the homescreen makes CHT 2.0 unstable and crash Sense. Remove the tasks widget if u dont have tasks .
So it's mentioned on the install section to dis-able XDA_UC before doing a task 29..
This ROM was blowing my mind...If you see the news or read it on MSN the Korea problem is getting worse by the day, I am going to get this coloring and darkening on this ROM and gt it out to my Troops ASAP. We are now officially on Active Call.... That's not good, it's cold as He** over ther now and we and most of our troops have been in the desert reagion's too long...Problem sinario...
Thanks and Take Care and have a Great Holiday!!! I really do appreciate all the help you have given me...!! I could't have pulled this idea off with out your help..
Now I just have to get the Dec. 20th version running as some of the CHT files and others have changed..
Not a problem there I have already seperated the images into different dir's and will mostly set-up a Photoshop Action to do what I need...
Sincerely
Col. L.A. Hutcheson
aka Automan

I don't know about disableling XDA_UC, but there should be information in it's thread. I don't use Task29 myself, I use a stock RUU. If you download a Stock ROM, it's a self extracking exe/zip. I manually unzip it & delete the nbh files in there & than add the custom ROM nbh to that folder. Now when I run the RUU that was inside, it flashes the custom ROM while doing a full format of the ROM Chip. Been doing this for over a year now & never have any kind of bad flash issues. Never need to Hard Reset after flashing, never need to do Task29 or Flashing Stock/etc.