Hey everyone, I am a noob, I admit it, Well to this whole phone PDA thing. I have experience with flashing psp's etc, and now my way around electronics. But anyhow, I just bought a AT&T HTC 8925 Tilt TyTN II Kaiser off of Ebay. It suppose to have Windows Mobile 6.0 on it and unlocked. So I can use my tmobile sim card in it. Well what I was wondering is, can I upgrade it to 6.1 or maybe 6.5 and not hurt the fact that it is unlocked? Don't want to upgrade the firmware or whatever you call it, and it becomes locked on me! Also what is this radio thing I read about thru out the forums? Is it like what it sounds like? Radio = listen to FM /AM radio stations, or you laughing at me now and should update me on what it is, thanks
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Hey everyone, I am a noob, I admit it, Well to this whole phone PDA thing. I have experience with flashing psp's etc, and now my way around electronics. But anyhow, I just bought a AT&T HTC 8925 Tilt TyTN II Kaiser off of Ebay. It suppose to have Windows Mobile 6.0 on it and unlocked. So I can use my tmobile sim card in it. Well what I was wondering is, can I upgrade it to 6.1 or maybe 6.5 and not hurt the fact that it is unlocked? Don't want to upgrade the firmware or whatever you call it, and it becomes locked on me! Also what is this radio thing I read about thru out the forums? Is it like what it sounds like? Radio = listen to FM /AM radio stations, or you laughing at me now and should update me on what it is, thanks
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First thing you need to do is read the Kaiser wiki, all the answers to your questions are there without the need to start a new thread. Lecture over
Once unlocked always unlocked no matter if you upgrade the rom. The radio " they " talk about, is the firmware that operates the sound , camera and receiver in the phone. Different " radios " work better with different roms. The Kaiser has no radio per se,
Welcome to XDA, you will enjoy it . A great place to learn just remember to follow the posting rules
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Hey guys need some feedback before I hurt myself
I bought a Cingular 8125 with 2.25 on it, I want to upgrade to 2.26 so I can try faria's 3.3
Now, The phone was bought off Ebay and im using a Fido (Canadian Service provider) Sim Card on it and I can make calls perfectly (Theres Cingular Branding on it still too), This must mean the phone is fully unlocked RIGHT?!?!
I was thinking instead of going the scary route of DOS screens and 1.x buttons Roms , Can I just just Skip to the T-Mobile 2.26 Updater ?
I havent done anything so for all I know the first time I run it will probably tell me bugger off
need feedback asap as I want to do it right now
xxeddixx said:
Hey guys need some feedback before I hurt myself
I bought a Cingular 8125 with 2.25 on it, I want to upgrade to 2.26 so I can try faria's 3.3
Now, The phone was bought off Ebay and im using a Fido (Canadian Service provider) Sim Card on it and I can make calls perfectly (Theres Cingular Branding on it still too), This must mean the phone is fully unlocked RIGHT?!?!
I was thinking instead of going the scary route of DOS screens and 1.x buttons Roms , Can I just just Skip to the T-Mobile 2.26 Updater ?
I havent done anything so for all I know the first time I run it will probably tell me bugger off
need feedback asap as I want to do it right now
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The FIRST thing you need to do ASAP is to figure out if you have a G3 or G4. Then read. When you're done reading, read some more. Unless you want a $400 brick, your choice.
btw, yes you need to unlock if you want to flash an unofficial ROM.
Well I didnt say 2.25.0000000000000
So obviously its a G3
anyways,
Ive already done my reading, Im asking in my case specifically , can I just run the T-Mobile 2.26 Update program on my Cingular G3 2.25 Wizard Because I have reason to belive it is already unlocked as I am using a FIDO Sim on it and it works prefectly
please reply asap as my curiousity always wins out first and I'm about to do it anyways
That means that your SIM unlocked, not necessarily CID unlocked.
Go ahead and upgrade to the 2.26, then to the WM6 or whatever. And if it doesn't work all you've done is waste yours and my time.
When in doubt, unlock. If you're that concerned about unlocking then you should stick to official ROM's
How do you check the locks on the phone? (especially CID)
Service Code?
thanks for your time
xxeddixx said:
How do you check the locks on the phone? (especially CID, though I would assume my CID is unlocked as I am using a SIM from a different provider)
Service Code?
thanks for your time
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You have not read enough my friend. Last chance from me.
There are TWO things to unlock.... SIM is so you can change SIM's... CID is so you can change ROM's. To my knowledge there's no way to determine if your unlocked. It would appear your SIM is unlocked. I don't know if your CID is unlocked. I DO know however that I could have downgraded to 1.05, unlocked completely with lokiwiz, installed 2.26 and then WM6 in the amount of time I've wasted here.
<poof>
alright Doc thanks, but loosen your grip on my balls next time, more of a yelp than a cough
Actually, you got off MUCH easier than some with your first post here without reading the information first. A LOT of the forum's members would have dragged you through the coals before they hog-tied you for not reading and searching for the answers first.
Dr. P was kind enough to give you some direction. Others -- including myself -- chose NOT to respond to yet another "noob" post where there's obviously not been NEAR enough effort put forth to find the solution FIRST.
We're all willing to help around here -- AFTER you've exhausted all other resources. That includes reading the stickys dealing with unlocking and upgrading and reading the WiKi. Between the stickys and the Wiki, there's no reason to post the question you posted. Yes -- some of the threads are long, but to know exactly what you're doing and what you'll encounter by NOT following the instructions, they need to be read -- each and every post.
Live and learn, my friend. I've always said there's a reason God gave us TWO eyes, TWO ears and ONE mouth -- it's to spend twice as much time looking and listening as we do talking and asking.
<<steps down from soapbox now>>
hi all.
Is the Tytn ii a hermes phone? Would like to know as i'm thinking of trying the HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a program to unlock it. Its currently on Orange and I need to put T-mobile sim card in for a while.
Any advice appreciated.
Don't do that, the TyTN II is the next generation, I don't think it will work.
With all these Kaiser-named threads, it should be pretty obvious it is a Kaiser, not Hermes. Add to that the fact that the forums are separated by model - aka Hermes, Kaiser, etc etc...and here you are, posting in the Kaiser forum.
Can you say DUH!?
OK, that was a little mean, but you newbies need to read more.
Read the Wiki. It will give you all the info you need.
alfamobile said:
hi all.
Is the Tytn ii a hermes phone? Would like to know as i'm thinking of trying the HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a program to unlock it. Its currently on Orange and I need to put T-mobile sim card in for a while.
Any advice appreciated.
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that unlocker worked on mine with no problems....i first tried it on a tilt that i was goin to return and it worked so im waitn for my new one
rico002 said:
that unlocker worked on mine with no problems....i first tried it on a tilt that i was goin to return and it worked so im waitn for my new one
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Are you saying that there is free unlock available then?
UPDATE: This method involves flashing a patched radio from a different device. Would not advise as this will probably either fail or brick device.
Did you actually test the device for sim unlock before you sent it back?
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Are you saying that there is free unlock available then?
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we will see soon, because i didnt have a sim card at the time, but it said "successful" in that box that pops up...so i guess it must work...i get my tilt next week.
Any fellow canucks with the rogers branded HTC Diamond?
Mine's on order and I can't wait to start modifying and tweaking the ROM... Any pointers on what to do first would be great. I will share my experiences later on so others with rogers diamonds will know what to do...
Thanks,
hey mr_yellow
i'm interested to see how the rogers branded diamond performs.
i have diam100 model from asia with .05 radio, which works quite well on the 850mhz band.
I'm hoping for some miracle for a radio with 3G support. Maybe u can shed some light on that when it's in your hands?
What do you mean exactly by on order? I have not seen it on the website and none of the reps seem to know anything obout it. Anyways, I was tired of waiting I took the plunge and got the HD.
The HTC Diamond is actually in the system now... Official Launch is Dec 3rd (tomorrow). but I got a rep that knew about it and I'm having it shipped to me.
too bad you went with the HD. you're going to miss the 3.5G. 7.2mbit HSDPA connection!
Yea I just called,
They said they do have the HTC Diamond and when I asked about pricing, he said he couldn't tell me much, all I saw there, 3yrs/649$
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The HTC Diamond is actually in the system now... Official Launch is Dec 3rd (tomorrow). but I got a rep that knew about it and I'm having it shipped to me.
too bad you went with the HD. you're going to miss the 3.5G. 7.2mbit HSDPA connection!
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Well I am a relative noob, but from what I understand from nunerous sources including Rogers tech reps the data connection is no where near the "maximum" speed. I also thought I understood that Rogers only has 3g and not 3.5g or is that the same thing? Anyways, I won't miss out because I don't have any data now. I won't pay the monthly charges for something I hardly ever use. I do use WIFI from time to time since I live in downtosn Toronto and there are quite a few hotspots around.
yep
Just got mine tonight.
Still tweaking. haven't reflashed or unlocked it yet.
So far, so great. Faster than my Tytn was, but still subjective.
Will update you as things go.
nanastas said:
Just got mine tonight.
Still tweaking. haven't reflashed or unlocked it yet.
So far, so great. Faster than my Tytn was, but still subjective.
Will update you as things go.
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Nice man!
How is it? Did they add anything to it or?
Is it written rogers anywhere on it? (just asking haha )
I'm debatting like you may have seen on my other thread if i should buy it factory unlocked or branded from rogers...
How much did you get it for btw?
all good
its good so far, still loading things to get it functional like my old tytn.
Rogers mostly left it alone. Some bloatware, but just links to vision stuff.
I thinks its CID /SIM locked, so I gotta unlock before I flash anything.
no rogers logos on the device, just on the box.
really nice phone so far, gotta learn to live with the 4gb, had a 16gb in my tytn....
I'm Tier4, so my CSR quoted me 299 with a 3yr re-sign...
Rogers Name Display
!!! to all whom have a new rogers diamond !!!
i need your help getting name display to work on my unlocked euro/asia version diamond.
a thread exists already trying to solve this, see here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347882
as you can see there are a lot of wm users using a variety of devices on rogers having this issue.
please upload your rilgsm.dll file in windows folder or any .dll beginning with "ril", here.
now i'm gonna need help getting this working so if you are exprienced with wm plz help. i have had my diamond since May, and have been waiting since for this rom to be avaliable.
if you can dump the whole rom and post it that will be more helpful, as i can post the link in the general dev and hacking, and it will be pounced on by those user also.
i am so tired of seeing "unknown caller" every time someone calls lol
I think it will help the community a lot if we can figure out how to grab a copy of the official Rogers ROM (so that we can reflash back to stock if something goes wrong).
After that, we can focus on things like App/CID/SIM unlocking...
Name display at Rogers/Fido
I agree with Blazeitup123
I also fed up with unknown caller
I pay for the Name Display and I dont have it.
nanastas: Could you upload the rilgsm.dll
Thanks
Anyone unlocked their Rogers HTC Diamond yet. I'm thinking of doing it, sim unlocking and maybe flashing a better ROM.
Anyone tried already please post results.
Thanks.
Got my rogers HTC Diamond Today. CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked. Flashed Olipro 1.40 Hard Spl. 1.00.25 Radio and Dutty's 3.5 Cookes Rom. Nice and Fast. Phone is Really nice. Paid 199 with 3Yr Contract with NO data plan need (Done through customer relations and not Customer Service). Let me know what you guyz flash and what radio you use!!!!
VarioIII said:
Got my rogers HTC Diamond Today. CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked. Flashed Olipro 1.40 Hard Spl. 1.00.25 Radio and Dutty's 3.5 Cookes Rom. Nice and Fast. Phone is Really nice. Paid 199 with 3Yr Contract with NO data plan need (Done through customer relations and not Customer Service). Let me know what you guyz flash and what radio you use!!!!
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hey varioIII did u have 3g connection to rogers with the original radio, and does your current radio 1.00.25 have 3g connection as well?
VarioIII said:
Got my rogers HTC Diamond Today. CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked. Flashed Olipro 1.40 Hard Spl. 1.00.25 Radio and Dutty's 3.5 Cookes Rom. Nice and Fast. Phone is Really nice. Paid 199 with 3Yr Contract with NO data plan need (Done through customer relations and not Customer Service). Let me know what you guyz flash and what radio you use!!!!
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hey how did you manage to get the phone for such an amazing price without data plan. can you please pm me. thanks.
Just got mine today. Nice change from the Hermes.
The only problem is that they sent me the french version. Not a big deal since there is no keyboard and I will be flashing a new english ROM anyway.
I got mine on the first day it was launched. So far it is really a good little phone (I am coming off using a 2G iPhone)
The tweaks I found here had made the phone even better!
why need CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked.?
VarioIII said:
Got my rogers HTC Diamond Today. CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked. Flashed Olipro 1.40 Hard Spl. 1.00.25 Radio and Dutty's 3.5 Cookes Rom. Nice and Fast. Phone is Really nice. Paid 199 with 3Yr Contract with NO data plan need (Done through customer relations and not Customer Service). Let me know what you guyz flash and what radio you use!!!!
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Hi, I am about to buy the rogers diamond. Could you advise my two concerns?
1) why need CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked.?
After CID unlocked, can i see the caller id without subscribe rogers caller id service?
2) GPS is my must have function for a smartphone. I am using iguidance 3.0 on my hp 6955 now. Have you installed any gps app. in your diamond? how does it work?
Thank you!
rogers_smartpho said:
Hi, I am about to buy the rogers diamond. Could you advise my two concerns?
1) why need CID unlocked, and SIM Unlocked.?
After CID unlocked, can i see the caller id without subscribe rogers caller id service?
2) GPS is my must have function for a smartphone. I am using iguidance 3.0 on my hp 6955 now. Have you installed any gps app. in your diamond? how does it work?
Thank you!
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i got my rogers htc diamond, my cid works perfectly out of the box.
gps works perfectly, i have google maps and tomtom 7 installed and they both work great and is very accurate
I recently bought an Orange branded HTC Touch Diamond, But its been unlocked previous to my purchase and i am using my Vodaphone PAYG SIM in it, Unfortunatly its missing TouchFLO3D. So im interested in doing a ROM upgrade, which im led to understand will get TouchFLO3D back on the device, as well as some other nice improvements.
I understand i can get the updated ROM from Orange, along with install instructions. What im interested to know is, if by installing this ROM will my phone once again be SIM locked to Orange?
I appreciate this may have been discussed already, but since this forum has thousands of threads i couldnt seem to get anything conclusive from searching to directly answer my question.
Any help is apperciated.
Thank You.
Quick story:
I bought it off dell.com like 2 years ago. I saw there was an update for it, so I went on HTC's website and put in my S/N. It said it didn't recognize it. I tried returning it to dell, but it was after the 15 day return period. So, I got screwed...and out of frustration I just cut my losses, forgot to put it on ebay, and threw it in the closet.
What should I do? I'm thinking about just installing a custom rom on it and throwing it to a friend but there are too many....any recommendations on what my next step should be?
Oh yea, to note, this is the GSM version of the HTC Touch Diamond. I've seen roms for the CDMA version...but not the GSM
I have a same issue but I always use custom rom therefore I don't care about it.
Is it a branded diamond?
The HTC site doesn't allow you to update branded Diamonds. For example, it doesn't recognize the S/N for my O2 branded Diamond.
Just put in a custom rom, they're much better than the official ones albeit more prone to bugs. Try different roms to see which you like best. Don't forget the flash the HARD SPL first.
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Oh yea, to note, this is the GSM version of the HTC Touch Diamond. I've seen roms for the CDMA version...but not the GSM
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normal ROMs are for GSM, if it says CDMA, then its for the CDMA.
Hi guys
I head the same problem during a support.
It is surely due to the fact that the mobile is "branded".