Hi to every1, im new to the forum, to the MDA/Wizard/G3 World and Windows Mobile Pocket Pc Phones.
Ok i just got this Used (Second-hand) T-mobile MDA A.K.A. Wizard and i callled t-mobile US to find out what is the mazimun memory the this phones supports since i couldnt find any info in their site, they didnt have the info either. So if anyone knows about this phone, i would be more than pleased, also let me give you some info about my phone:
T-Mobile MDA (Wizard)
Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0 Build 14955.2.3.0
Processor: OMAP850-195MHZ
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.26.10.2
This is my e-mail Just in case any1 wants to contact me as to give me any info that cannot be given here, or guide me pointers, guides, tutorials, etc which all will be very much appreciated.
So Far i think i have a G3 Device, right?
I know that t-mobile told me that this device cannot be upgraded by them any more than WinMo5.0 because they just decided to make a new phone, but i have been reading in this forum and i found that this specific device can be upgraded to 6.1 or something like that, also with something that is called Flowcover, or coverflow from HTC is pretty hot, but the thing is that this is my 1st device this kind and i doint have insurance on itsince i got it prepaid for now, also i dont want to mess up my phone or brick it. im very good at following tutorials and step-by-step as long as they are clear and comprehensive.
My point is there too much info and too many threads about the same please can any1 tell me which 1 to follow, and which tuto is the best, and i will foloow it to the letter.
Please PM me or send me an email to let me know what u guys think and if i said something that i shouldnt mention here in the forum please admin feel free to modify my thread, and im sorry if i did in advanced!
Thanks a lot to any1 who can help, please understand me...
I will greatly appreciate all your help and efforts.
Thanks again
Peace out!!!
Heres all you'll need
Since i was in the same boat as you were about 4 days ago, i'll help you out .
After I spent days asking people questions on a thread I finally found this website's wiki page: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
It helped me greatly, it has ALL the information and steps that you'd need to flash your phone to Button 1.05, then CID unlock it, then flash to a IPL/SPL of 3.08. Then you'd be able to flash to windows mobile 6.1 or HTC coverflow, what ever you choose. Also, if you have a Vista pc it gives a step by step tutorial to how to make it so that you could do this on vista.(Also, WST[Wizard Service Tool] didnt seem to work on my Vista)
And yes, you have a G3
Hopefully that page will answer all your questions and this gives all the info you need.
RE: Sorry i forgot!!!
Darksider94 said:
Since i was in the same boat as you were about 4 days ago, i'll help you out .
After I spent days asking people questions on a thread I finally found this website's wiki page: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
It helped me greatly, it has ALL the information and steps that you'd need to flash your phone to Button 1.05, then CID unlock it, then flash to a IPL/SPL of 3.08. Then you'd be able to flash to windows mobile 6.1 or HTC coverflow, what ever you choose. Also, if you have a Vista pc it gives a step by step tutorial to how to make it so that you could do this on vista.(Also, WST[Wizard Service Tool] didnt seem to work on my Vista)
And yes, you have a G3
Hopefully that page will answer all your questions and this gives all the info you need.
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Thanks in advanced, but i forgot to tell you my PC Is: Windows XP Pro SP3
NOT VISTA, thank god!
Do i need anything special since i have XP or is XP better for this procedures?
thanks
c-ya
Oh, Also Do i need to backup anything from my phone to the PC before i do any modification? like for safety purposes? i.e. like to revert it back to original state?
Also after i do this can i use it as if it came with Windows Mobile 6? and do i tell this to T-mobile? or can i use it with other service providers?
what type of applications must i get after this, WM6 or WM5 apps? and where do i get them cause ie been looking for games and IR Apps like remote control and cant find any?
sorry but i just have too many questions in my head, also do you mind sending me a PM or email with your choice of WM6 and which is more stable and complatible with Coverflow?
thanks and sorry again!!!
Yeah, there were alot of questions in my head when i did this too.
You don't need anything special for XP to do this. Just follow the instructions on the page I gave you and download the tools you need to flash your phone.
Also, when your doing this it hard-resets your device so any programs, contacts, stuff like that should backup all that stuff on your pc using activesync and just take note of the programs you have so you could put them back on afterwards, but the programs that came with your phone usually come with the rom you are putting on, so those you shouldnt need to worry about.
To revert it back to the state when you got it jsut put an official windows mobile rom.
Also, doing this voids your warranty with T-Mobile for the phone. And when you use Wizard Service Tool(WST) when you CID unlock your phone, you can also SIM unlock it which would allow you to use it with any carrier.
You can get any apps that are compatible with WM, i'm not sure where good places to get apps are yet, i'm still looking too.
I can't really help you with the choice of WM6 and which would be more stable with Coverflow because i dont use Coverflow, but right now i'm running Windows Mobile 6.1 With Manila 2D using Touchflow.(Shown in my sig) That can be found in the Windows Mobile 6 category of the Wizard forums with a lot of other great roms.
Hope this helped .
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Hello All,
Yes I am a newby here and I have tried to search for my answers so please do not flame me too bad.. I have an 8125 on Cingular service that has the origional ROM and I would like to upgrade it. I have reviewed the post and they are really hard to follow as they split off to multiple threads and almost always assume that you know the correct steps to follow.
Has anyone posted a "how to" for those of us that are new here? If not would someone like to talk me through it?
Thanks so much for your help
Mark
I am looking for the same thing.
Any one know of any how-to's?
It's very simple.
Connect the phone to your PC with the USB cable
CID unlock the phone
SIM unlock the phone
Double-click the upgrade ROM on your PC - it automatically installs
Restore your settings to your phone
You only need to unlock the CID and SIM once. There's a program called lokiwiz which you can download from this board. It runs in text mode, but it's very simple... just be sure to un-zip it to the root of your C:\ drive (it must be C:\Lokiwiz, don't put it in your Program Files folder).
You run Lokiwiz twice, once to SIM unlock and again to CID unlock. There are several threads here about how to run this software; the only "gotcha" is that it only works on the older software (which your phone has now).
After your install the new ROM, your phone is "factory clean." All of your phone numbers and settings are gone, so you have to restore them.
To restore your settings:
Run ActiveSync to restore your contacts and appointments
Go into the e-mail app to re-configure your e-mail settings
Re-install any add-on software you were using
I literally just got my 8125 a week ago, I haven't had time to do much with it yet either. I have downloaded just about every file I think I will need, and I already have a bluetooth headset, and bluetooth GPS mouse
Personally I think we should all back-up our phones right now before doing anything else, hah.
I'm currently searching on how to do this, I have downloaded Wiz backup.
Also I just want to add I currently havewhen booting up phone)
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
Radio 01.09.11
OS 1.8.11.1
Looking under device information:
ROM ver./Date : 1.8.11.1 WWE / 11/24/05
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
Extended Rom version: 1.8.11.103
So I'm also researching "from where my device is starting" what is the best ROM or software upgrade to perform, and unlock tool to use.
Any information is much appreciated, good luck to us beginners, and thanks for any more experience on advice taking proper precautions backing up, in a way that will definately restore original software and settings.
I really don't need a $400.00 brick!
I literally just got my 8125 a week ago, I haven't had time to do much with it yet either. I have downloaded just about every file I think I will need, and I already have a bluetooth headset, and bluetooth GPS mouse
Personally I think we should all back-up our phones right now before doing anything else, hah.
I'm currently searching on how to do this, I have downloaded Wiz backup.
Also I just want to add I currently havewhen booting up phone)
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
Radio 01.09.11
OS 1.8.11.1
Looking under device information:
ROM ver./Date : 1.8.11.1 WWE / 11/24/05
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
Extended Rom version: 1.8.11.103
So I'm also researching "from where my device is starting" what is the best ROM or software upgrade to perform, and unlock tool to use.
Any information is much appreciated, good luck to us beginners, and thanks for any more experience on advice taking proper precautions backing up, in a way that will definately restore original software and settings.
I really don't need a $400.00 brick!
BEWARE OF WIZBACKUP!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53132
you do not need to SIM unlock phone to do a rom update ..
just CID unlock
bign90 said:
Hello All,
Yes I am a newby here and I have tried to search for my answers so please do not flame me too bad.. I have an 8125 on Cingular service that has the origional ROM and I would like to upgrade it. I have reviewed the post and they are really hard to follow as they split off to multiple threads and almost always assume that you know the correct steps to follow.
Has anyone posted a "how to" for those of us that are new here? If not would someone like to talk me through it?
Thanks so much for your help
Mark
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Here is how I started at this site
Start with http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ the wiki pages are a great source for the basics on unlocking, acronyms, general information and questions. It made reading and understanding the threads much easier. I may be a geek but I’m no programmer. I’ve flashed my phone half dozen times & yes I have screwed it up a couple times by not following the instructions, but never “bricked” my phone.
My philosophy has always been RTFM (Read the F___ Manual)…. Well since the Cingular manual and inside scoop on how these HTC phones operate & program was non existent, welcome to the biggest online manual available! It may not be the best organized and simplest to follow, but man there’s a lot of good information here.
Good luck & welcome to the board!!
8)
Thank you lotech for that post...looks like good advice.
i know there has been a million post on how to update this phone to the newest windows but i read them and just cant make any since out of them if some one could put in easy directions for me to do i would be very thankful. it is a cingular 8125 unlocked and i have tmobile service if i update windows would i have to unlock it again? and i would also need help installing the i phone theme. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!! it would be great if there was a video i could watch on how to do it or if someone could explain it step by step to me like i said i am very new to this sort of stuff and can't make heads or tails out of the other post explaining how to do. PLEASE HELPP MEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you have patience read this Wiki-Guide, here you can find everything you must do for upgrade your phone
will i have to unlock my the phone again if i upgrade windows and were can i get the i phone theme thanks for the help thoughh
davidj420 said:
will i have to unlock my the phone again if i upgrade windows and were can i get the i phone theme thanks for the help thoughh
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No, you need to unlock your phone only one time before unpgrading windows.
Phone Theme... i don't know
ughhh this is so confusing. what does windows mobile 6 offer that 5 dosent?
I bought a couple of Wizards (unlocked Cingular 8125's) recently and have gotten service on them. I am looking to upgrade them both to WM 6.1 if possible. I am in the learning phase of these phones. I am considering buying another phone and using it as a dummy phone.
I am also looking at where to go to upgrade it and since Cingular/AT&T does not support it, i am looking to get the upgrade for free. I just need to be pointed in the right direction, and even if i don't get another phone for a dummy, I want to be able to do my phone first to make sure I upgrade the rom correctly.
If someone is able to help that would be greatly appreciated.
I admit...I'm a Noob
I was hoping to hear something by now... Apparently my question will go unanswered. I know my Wizard (cingular 8125) is sim unlocked, but not sure if it's CID unlocked. I'm still showing the Cingular Logo when I make a call, so I assume I am not CID unlocked. I could use a little assistance on this if at all possible. I have been looking through the wiki pages and the tutorials, however, I am still skeptical about what I'm doing. All Assistance will be appreciated.
You must read carefully & follow this guide to be sure that you are SIM/CID unlock.
If you complete the steps then you can select a rom from the Wizard Mobile 6 thread & flash it.
Thanks for the assist Sam...I have been using the TNT series of Roms, Thanks to It's Right for cooking that one up...going to upgrade my radio then call it good.
hello: iam trying to unlock my phone so i can update the sotware to windows mobile 6 can anybody help me with this ?
Ok. Several things: 1) If you have the default T-mobile ROM on your Wing, you already have Windows Mobile 6.1. 2) If you post the same question in multiple subforums, you are very likely to be ignored. 3) If you only wish to CID unlock the phone, then all you have to do is flash any other ROM found on this forum. Be sure to search in there for "How to Flash" before opening another thread asking for help. Thanks!
what do u mean default T-mobile Rom?
please excuse me iam new at this. and iam pretty sure that i do not have mobile 6.1 on my wing... could you help me in this matter? 1. i need to unlock the phone so i can put windows mobile 6.1 on the phone ... i would appreacte verey much paul....
fluoroseal said:
please excuse me iam new at this. and iam pretty sure that i do not have mobile 6.1 on my wing... could you help me in this matter? 1. i need to unlock the phone so i can put windows mobile 6.1 on the phone ... i would appreacte verey much paul....
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Alright. If you bought this phone directly from T-mobile US, then you do already have Windows Mobile 6.1. Also, to check for sure which version you have, you can go to Start->Settings->System->About. It will display what version of Windows Mobile you have.
I suggest you start with the wiki. Since you keep asking to 'unlock' your phone to be able to flash a new ROM i'm going to guess that you don't know what your doing. Make sure to read up on what is required to flash a new ROM. If you need any more assistance please make sure to ask the correct question in the correct forum and I'm sure everyone will be willing to help. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
@elazullizard, unless something has changed, the Wing DOES NOT come stock with 6.1, it comes with 6. Now like I say, that may have changed, but I just bought a brand new in the box Wing manufactured in November 2008, and it booted into stock plain jane T-mobile 6. So yeah, this guy does indeed need to CID unlock and upgrade to 6.1 or 6.5.
thank you. and its hera 110 rom ver. 4.26.531 wwe and i do have windows 6 professional but i would like to cid my phone so it can take a new rom? and you help in this mater?
Yes, first of all soft-reset your device using the little hole on the left hand side of it, as soon as you press the little button in the hole, press and hold down the camera button until the 3 color bootloader screen is displayed...confirm that your IPL/SPL is above 4 and reply back to me with the exact number and we can get you started from there.
hello there ther a little problem I use the divce on and everday as my life line for work and i do not have a spare. and this forum takes forever for someone to get back to u ,
so if we can talk head up on yahoo or let me know when u are gona be on this site so we can do this together thank u paul
its rom ver 4.26.531/wwe
radio ver 03.21.90 and runing windows mobile 6 professional.......
Well my yahoo IM is listed in my profile information, and I still need to know your IPL/SPL in order to help you.
Dear friends,
I use T-Mobile Wing. 2007 manufacture.
Can u help me to upgrade it. It uses Windows Mobile v6.0. I wanted to change it to Window Mobile v6.1 or v6.5.
I use it with another sim card. Not T-Mobile. But it is working properly.
How can I do this?
IPL 4.10.0002
SPL 4.10.0000
Thanks a lot...
P.S. Can I use GPS from my mobile. I couldn't found it.
There are plenty of posts that teach you how to flash custom ROMs. If you don't know where to start try searching for "how to hard SPL." You can flash custom ROMs without having your phone hard spl'ed by using USPL. If you decide not to use hard spl there is a great change that you will brick your phone and will no longer be able to use it again. After all you have to do is search for a flashcenter or use mine http://mywing.info/dl/Flascenter.rar . As for you GPS question, there are plenty of gps programs out there. You just need to buy either an external bluetooth gps receiver or a USB gps receiver. pair it with your phone and your done.
Hi everyone!
**This is my first post in this forum, so I apologize if I'm posting something wrong - please be polite**
I bought a MDA VARIO (I) 3 days ago. The first User didn't mod anything on this pda. It's T-Mobile (germany) branded and still SIM-Locked.
That's the point where I came to this forum. ATM I'm using an O2 SIM-Card (will change that soon to another provider) and can't use my new PDA.
At first I've read some threads and noted all my IPLs and so on.
**Then I downloaded an official update from the t-mobile webpage and now I've got a ipl 3.08.0001 and spl 3.08.0001 still Windows Mobile 5**
I've seen some cool stuff you ppl do in this forums and want to change my lame phone into a creative machine too That's why I ask for help.
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My phone still works and nothing is hacked or anything. Just 1 Update to the newest state. I read some Wiki entries and some posts very carefully, but I'm still uncertain, so I post my thoughts in here.
I read that someone here is "collecting" the phone-data and I WANT TO DONATE. Just tell me what to do/post.
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My PC-System is Windows Vista x64 ultimate.
I already got the newest version of WMDC, installed the x64 drivers like posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338473
I already installed the newest Wizard Service Tool
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After searching some threads I found out that I have a G4 device.
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I want to upgrade the following:
1.kill SIMLOCK
2.kill SIDLOCK
3.install new windows mobile if this makes sense (read further in this post)
Final. Use the pda with my SIM-Card as phone,plaything, organizer and do stuff -thats why we are here
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(1)If I read correct, I have to DOWNGRADE my IPL and SPL to kill SIMLOCK, is that correct?
Same goes with SIDLOCK? (2)
(3) Which Windows Mobile will be okay? The phone is pretty weak (195Mhz, 64MB Ram, 126MB Flash, 16bits BUS, Memory: 42,55MB, [email protected] 240*320 with 65536 collors and an extra 2Gig Memory-unit)
I'd prefer a german windows (hope that you can't read my accent ) with lots of touch function. Saw some preview of Windows Mobile 6.5 and it looked pretty nice, but I'm worried that the 195MhZ Wiz200 is to lame.
It won't be good enough to get along with Windows Mobile 7 (when it comes out), does it?
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SO I NEED YOUR HELP:
What information do I have to post to donate?
Do I need to downgrade to kill SIMlock and SIDlock? How do I do this?
How can I actually kill/disable SIMlock?
Where can I get a good OS for my Wiz and which one would you prefer? WM 6.0; 6.1; 6.5? Language packs available?
Which programs do I need to install (must haves)?
**Thank you for your time to read this and all upcoming answers!**
VashDragonslayer said:
Hi everyone!
**This is my first post in this forum, so I apologize if I'm posting something wrong - please be polite**
I bought a MDA VARIO (I) 3 days ago. The first User didn't mod anything on this pda. It's T-Mobile (germany) branded and still SIM-Locked.
That's the point where I came to this forum. ATM I'm using an O2 SIM-Card (will change that soon to another provider) and can't use my new PDA.
At first I've read some threads and noted all my IPLs and so on.
**Then I downloaded an official update from the t-mobile webpage and now I've got a ipl 3.08.0001 and spl 3.08.0001 still Windows Mobile 5**
I've seen some cool stuff you ppl do in this forums and want to change my lame phone into a creative machine too That's why I ask for help.
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My phone still works and nothing is hacked or anything. Just 1 Update to the newest state. I read some Wiki entries and some posts very carefully, but I'm still uncertain, so I post my thoughts in here.
I read that someone here is "collecting" the phone-data and I WANT TO DONATE. Just tell me what to do/post.
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My PC-System is Windows Vista x64 ultimate.
I already got the newest version of WMDC, installed the x64 drivers like posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338473
I already installed the newest Wizard Service Tool
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After searching some threads I found out that I have a G4 device.
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I want to upgrade the following:
1.kill SIMLOCK
2.kill SIDLOCK
3.install new windows mobile if this makes sense (read further in this post)
Final. Use the pda with my SIM-Card as phone,plaything, organizer and do stuff -thats why we are here
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(1)If I read correct, I have to DOWNGRADE my IPL and SPL to kill SIMLOCK, is that correct?
Same goes with SIDLOCK? (2)
(3) Which Windows Mobile will be okay? The phone is pretty weak (195Mhz, 64MB Ram, 126MB Flash, 16bits BUS, Memory: 42,55MB, [email protected] 240*320 with 65536 collors and an extra 2Gig Memory-unit)
I'd prefer a german windows (hope that you can't read my accent ) with lots of touch function. Saw some preview of Windows Mobile 6.5 and it looked pretty nice, but I'm worried that the 195MhZ Wiz200 is to lame.
It won't be good enough to get along with Windows Mobile 7 (when it comes out), does it?
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SO I NEED YOUR HELP:
What information do I have to post to donate?
Do I need to downgrade to kill SIMlock and SIDlock? How do I do this?
How can I actually kill/disable SIMlock?
Where can I get a good OS for my Wiz and which one would you prefer? WM 6.0; 6.1; 6.5? Language packs available?
Which programs do I need to install (must haves)?
**Thank you for your time to read this and all upcoming answers!**
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
This will be the page u want to go to to unlock your device. Use it at your own risk. Im not sure if you will have to downgrade your radio or with the G4's or not. this thread will get you where you need to be to get Hard SPL (CID Unlock) and SIM Unlock. Read the first post thoroughly that's the info you need.
Just remember, When in Doubt, ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS...we would rather you ask questions than turn your device into a brick.
Thanks for your reply.
Hope anyone else will post some thoughts to my other questions (Must-Have Programs, which OS and so on)
I wrote that much about what I've already read. I don't plan to flash my device into a brick just because I'm impatient
jonnyj771 said:
this thread will get you where you need to be to get Hard SPL (CID Unlock) and SIM Unlock.
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AFAIK HardSPL has nothing todo with SIM-Unlock.
For SIM-Unlock you should look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928
IMPORTANT: This is only for SIM-Unlock if you have a G4 Wizard!
CID-Unlock is not possible. You can either use SoftSPL or HardSPL for flashing a new ROM.
And don't use Vista!!! Use WinXP 32bit for all this stuff!!!
Hey there!
Finally got rid of Simlock, thanks for the link!
Since my lack of Windows XP I dunno how to go on modding my phone. Sim-Unlocking worked well with Vista 64 and WMDC (XP drivers though).
Visited a friend and used his XP-PC for the good stuff:
Now my WIZ is running WM6,5 by Cyberdyne and is overclocked with HomeScreen++. Running sweat. Totally happy right now.
Thanks again to all ppl who helped me to change my crappy T-Mobile MDA into some up-to-date funmachine!