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i have problems with Satalite FIX.
it can take mor then 10-20min (if at all) to get a fix.
i setup my GPS manualy to COM9 @ 4800.
i know (at least) one other user have a simular problem.
HTC, after some e-mails, say that if i DON'T use TomTom software, they can't help my with this isue.
any idea ?
thanks.
Fix
I had some problems with slow fix. I enabled the GPS applet in settings and it was configured at 33600, changed to 4800 and also in Tomtom and miomap settings configured to 4800, after that, very quick fix, on cold start less than 1 min, on warm start just seconds. Try it.
under, settings -> connection -> GPS ...
i set:
program tab:
GPS Program port = GPD9
hardware tab:
Port = com9
boud = 4800
access tab:
mark on the manage GPS Auto.
is taht OK ?
and allso on the navigation program i set manualy com9 @4800
Yep, that's my config and works right...
interesting... i have my settings as follows -
program tab:
GPS Program port = GPD1
hardware tab:
Port = com1
boud = 115200
access tab:
mark on the manage GPS Auto.
with these settings i get a fix in 30 sec to 90 sec...
cortezzi said:
with these settings i get a fix in 30 sec to 90 sec...
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After a sofreset? Probably not
The "warm reset time" in a GPS is not related with the Port number or the baud rates...but with its sensibility
SAme for me the GPS response can take up to 10 minutes.
I tried your setting Julioski and AriebK but it doesn't help?
In tomtom I don't see where to set the port and the baud speed can you help?
Any other ideas?
after configure the above settings, i get FIX, but after 20-30min of navigation... the FIX is gone, one more thing, i notice that my phone 3g signal drop allso, SR was nedded.
ariebk said:
after configure the above settings, i get FIX, but after 20-30min of navigation... the FIX is gone, one more thing, i notice that my phone 3g signal drop allso, SR was nedded.
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According to HTC the reason the GPS function was not enabled in the first place was a conflict with the GSM signal,anyway try manually setting your phone band to GSM and see if that makes a difference.(Settings,phone,band,select network type:GSM)
What radio version have you installed?
1.35, 1.38???
I have an HTC p3600 Trinity and have also just installed the newest ROM from HTC.
I downloaded the TomTom application from HTC, installed it and everything "seems" fine accept I cannot acquire any signals.
I have tried many of the different GPS settings from the GPS manager, but nowhere do I see a way to change what TomTom is looking for. There are 5 default gps reciever options... (builtin, bluetooth, wired, other bluetooth and other NMEA device) and I really have no idea what to choose if I have to input the settings.
Can anyone help?
Thanks!
PAR
par02 said:
I have an HTC p3600 Trinity and have also just installed the newest ROM from HTC.
I downloaded the TomTom application from HTC, installed it and everything "seems" fine accept I cannot acquire any signals.
I have tried many of the different GPS settings from the GPS manager, but nowhere do I see a way to change what TomTom is looking for. There are 5 default gps reciever options... (builtin, bluetooth, wired, other bluetooth and other NMEA device) and I really have no idea what to choose if I have to input the settings.
Can anyone help?
Thanks!
PAR
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Both the "built in" and "COM9" should work (and do for me).
Make sure you're in an open area, and give it enough time to acquire a signal (could take 10 mins).
According to HTC the reason the GPS function was not enabled in the first place was a conflict with the GSM signal,anyway try manually setting your phone band to GSM and see if that makes a difference.(Settings,phone,band,select network type:GSM)
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i tryed that... seems that with GSM, it took much more time to get a FIX (if so)...
with GSM it get the FIX much faster, but stil... too much and it drop the signal without any reasone.
What radio version have you installed?
1.35, 1.38???
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1.38.00.11
I have the same exact problem, sometimes GPS gets the satellites in 30 seconds sometimes no satellite after 15 minutes. This of course in the same location...
This is really anoying, any other ideas ?
PS: I am using the french version!
daghood said:
PS: I am using the french version!
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Maybe that's why ... sorry couldn't help it...
Are you sure there aren't any other factors involved (like heavy cloud cover, rain, , etc.?) or more than 3 days since last fix (not that this should take 15 minutes - this is more than downloading the whole almanach). Can you check if you have signal all the time, or if you keep loosing all satellite signal? Because if it looses all satellites, he has to start from the beginning with the fix, so it's in a loop until he gets proper signal.
Well there seem to be quite a few issues with the GPS,personally i'm using the Destinator 6 software ,and here is what i noticed ;
With the official HTC rom :
The software detects the GPS in about a minute and acquires a fix in about 3-4 minutes with the GSM on and a clear sky.
If i softreset the device then 1/3 times it won't find a GPS antenna and i have to manually reconnect and define the com port,it then takes apprx 5 minutes to get a fix.
The weird thing is that when i used Destinator PN i didn't have any of these issues .
Lately i've started using img-32424-mUn and i've noticed a definite improvement in both GPS strength and speed.
i did use following test rom, the gps response is around 1min.
RUU_Trinity_CHT_1.23.751.1_101_6275_1.29.00.11_108_Test.exe
however, by using offical rom whatever config the baud rate or GDP, required 8-10 to get the fix.
the problem is that it's not stable
one day i get a FIX within 1 min, next day after 20...
and 2 days later, not getting any FIX.
i tryed with GSM and 3g ...
i guess the radio (or the GPS part) isn't as we excpect it
sad that HTC dont want to support users that NOT use TomTom.
I think it would be useful if each of us told the others the type of GPS software they were using as it (The GPS software)seems to affect the time it takes to acquire a signal.
Also try using the GPS with and without the radio (Flight mode) and see if it makes a difference.
No GPS Signal & Icon
Hi! I've another problem. I've downloaded new ROM upgrade and Tomtom applications. After waiting for 10 minutes, my device says no signal received. I read from some forums we can adjust some variables but there is no GPS icon under settings\connections folder.
Can anybody help me! I have version WWE 1.23.405.
Hello,
I am trying since yesterday to make my GPS working, with no success. Everytime, I got the following message:
Cannot find port com. I do not know what the problem might be. I tried all Ports (from COM 0 to COM 12, and all Baud rates). Tried 3 differents GPS applications. Memory Map tells me for Port 0 GPS communication timeout...
In addition, I tried to play with the External GPS. I tried with Manage GPS automatically on and off. Still the same..
I begin to think my GPS unit is defective...
Any ideas would be appreciate.
Thanks very much in advance,
Philippe
did you change settings in the gps control panel?
the default settings can be left alone. COM4. Baud rate should be automatically handled and unless you enabled AGPS any baud rate will do, if you enabled AGPS then I think you have to use 2400 as your Baud.
I just noticed the GPS harddware port in setting, system External GPS is not saved when you click ente.
Exemple I choose COM4, and Baud rate: 4800. I click OK. When I reclick exernal GPS, Hardware, I have got ''none for GPS hardware port. I do not know if it might be one of the reason why the GPS does not work.
Note: I just flashed the new rom: 1.35.401.3 WWE. Might it be a bug in this ROM (just question?)
Philippe
I can cofirm TomTom working with COM4 and baud 57600. Signal pickup can be time hungry, tho. Sometimes I get a fix in 20 seconds, sometimes it takes as much as 10 minutes.
no problem using mapking...
Hello,
And thanks everybody for your help. I just updated to the new Elite 1 ROM, and now it works like a charm....Very good...
I do not know if there is many francophones on this forum, but there is a new french forum about the Diamond:
http://htc-touch-diamond.forumactif.info/index.htm
Not very busy yet, but....
Cheers,
Philippe
Same problem... The tomtom 6 don't detect my integrated gps... if i chose the wired and put ports like say before, it don't work too.. Any way for detect integrated gps?
Here are exactly my setting:
Setting system External GPS:
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: None
Baud rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically is checked.
So open your GPS program, choose COM Port 4, and baud rate: 4800.
Should work. If not, flashthe new Elite ROM. It could help too.
Philippe
I can't flash the rom, it will make the warranty expire... And the mobile isn't mine, it's destined to be selled, i work on a gsm shop...
got exactly opposite problem - when I leave these default settings in "External GPS" CPL, the Diamond will suck my batterry within several hours, as if the GPS was still ON. have found out that if I disable all settings in this CPL, it stops sucking power (but then I can't use the GPS, obviously) - any clues or solutions?
I HAD to enable Windows Mobile manages automatic in External GPS in 'settings'. Check if it is enabled.
Disabling it made GPS never work.
Strange?
Yes, unless I restored all settings to their original values (Virtual port - COM4, HW port - None, Managed access - checked), I was not able to use the GPS. But these were exactly the settings I was having the battery drain issue with... I miss the GPS LED indication vastly...
I am have this problerm too...
Solution : make hard reset.. no more!
And all will be ok ... about GPS.
i have same proplem
i have same proplem when i updat to the new rom 1.93
I have a similar Problem.
I Updates my ROM to the new branded one from O2-Germany and since then my GPS is not working anymore. in GPSMapware I get device.exe errors and TomTom7 keeps searching and searching and so on...
The old O2 ROM has no GPS problems and every software got a loc in about 10 - 20 seconds.
But the most intresting point is that my brother has a Diamond too and no GPS problems at all.
I think I will get a new one from O2 before flashing it and loose my warrenty
Telus CDMA Diamond
I've got problem too. First Diamond I had no problem with GPS, something happened with the phone I had to exchange, and new one (phone) GPS wouldn't pickup Sat. I'm on Telus CDMA. Maybe they removed physically on the second batch of Diamonds.
My GPS doesn't work too well either. I can usually get a fix eventually when outside with a clear view of the sky but in the car it is hopeless. I use TT7 and the GPS status screen shows that the Diamond can see maybe half a dozen satellites or so but with very low signal strength. The bars stay grey for ages and then eventually three or four will turn blue and all the time the battery is draining like crazy. I also have a Holux GPSlim 256 and with that I get a fix much faster and the signal strength is much higher. I can also use it in the car with no problem.
I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with the GPS performance of the Diamond and from the number of posts in this forum from people with similar problems I would suggest that there is a design flaw or very poor quality control. I had an XDA Orbit 2 for a while and that was far superior.
Me too
my diamond have the same problem too.
it was working with the old rom's and the early new
but later with new rom's it is locked, I don't know why or how to fix it.
then I back to the last good one but still locked.
it seem's working fine, because the software is detect the gps device and also detect it on port 4 and baud speed, but without signal any more.
I used Garmin, Destenator, iGo, fanaeen, and gps test.
and I try to use all avaliable solutions
I used all diamond rom's here and used all radio version's even the hardspl I changed it too with no succeed.
any advice would be help!
thanks in advanced
Hi,
I own two diamonds and I also found problems with the GPS in both of them. Probably mine is not the same you are describing. What I get is the following:
Running TT7, the GPS works but TT7 map in the screen remains in grey color. Rarely it shows color for some seconds and l"oses signal" again. It navigates, but no messages on proximity of POIs work. Also, when driving, if TT7 is forced to recalculate (every time I do not follow the instructions), it forgets about the required destination. In the GPS configuration option within TT7 it does not show satellites, the bars are empty and the coordinates shown are grey... but showing values!
Finally, I found the reason. I use Bluefire VPN, a piece of software to connect securely to my company. The GPS and Bluefire cannot live together.
I have tried everything: TomTom 6, changing COM port (many combinations)for the GPS, A-GPS on and off... No way.
It worked perfectly in P3600. I tried many ROMS and pieces of software without problems but in the Diamond I haven't been able.
Perhaps the reason is some resident code of Bluefire. Don't know. In any case, if this is a case similar to any of you, my advice is the following:
Hard reset, install TT7 and maps and test the GPS. If it works, start installing software until it crashes.
In my case, the GPS is always dead after the soft reset required after the installation of Bluefire, and it works again after another soft reset once Bluefire is uninstalled.
Hope it helps and hope somebody can also help me solve this issue.
SOLVED
Hi guys
Here is my solution.
First you have to flash 1.13.25.24 radio rom sometimes it can be solve the problem.If not you must open your phone with Htc service manual and find gps coaxial cable and check it.Sometimes it can be pulled out.Mine antenna was unconnected and gps couldnot find any satellites.Sorry for my bad english.
Hi all, yesterday i've changed the "external gps settings":
COM8 For virtual GPS port and COM 4 as Hardware GPS port, baud 9600.
Today i was using my GPS the first time after the settings descripted before...
The GPS Works, but at regular intervals of 2 sec, then stops for 10 sec (No GPS Found with Tomtom) and works again.....
Now i have 3 questions:
1) Can i solve this WITHOUT an Hard Reset??
2) If i disable the Virtual com port, tomtom DON'T let me choose another COMport (it skips the Comport configuration page) and, when it allows me to select the right port, the COM4 isn't there
3) There are A LOT of comport into "External GPS Settings", some starting with COM..X and others ports named GPD..X ..... What type of ports are??
(Ps: i have already installed tomtom again)
Did you try to disable AGPS?
I have only seen this problem when AGPS is enabled (via advanced config) too
Also the defualt GPS COM ports is 4 and baud rate of 4800 (should be no need to change this) and why mess with external GPS settings when the device has internal GPS?
I have same problem on iGO8 with AGPS enabled.
You guys are right! The A-GPS was ON (strange, i don't remember i've activated it)
If i play with the external gps app is because i would to share the same com port to 2 gps apps.....
BTW when i set the com4 in Hardware port, reopening the app it disappear.
Now i have Agps disabled, External gps app "void" and tomtom don't let me choose the comport (it switch from baud speed to mainscreen)
Hmm, I had no problem at all using GPS at standard settings for:
Igo
TrackMe
GoogleMaps
at the same time!
Riel said:
Hmm, I had no problem at all using GPS at standard settings for:
Igo
TrackMe
GoogleMaps
at the same time!
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diamond has disabled agps out of the box.
Hmmm I had no problems the first couple of times I tried iGo when I first got the device. Then I tweaked it, enabled AGPS and all hell broke loose (presumably due to this setting, though not 100% sure since I changed lots of things). Disabled it on my own, trying to back-track, now it's better but I still got problems with GPS lost...
By the way, is there any use setting COM4 to high speeds? Does it reall improve performance?
I had the same problem after flashing the actual rom build from HTC club. I am currently sticking to this one in italian and no problem at all.
P.S.: Just noticed you're from my same city
All ok now, i suppose that if we leave blank the GPS port (no HW port) into first COM screen of external gps app, tomtom skip the comport settings screen, and don't allow you to choose another one.
I've Hardresetted my pda yesterday, and i've seen that out of the box, the diamond has COM4 selected by default.
I don't want to change anything now (i have no time in those days to do another Hard reset) BUT, if you have problems regarding the GPS COM Settings screen in tomtom, try to set the COM4 into GPS PORT (not hardware port) of the "External Gps" app.
hello everyone
i have the same problem of signal GPS lost and coming back after a few minutes of use (i use IGO 8), then lose again, then back again, and so on.
I installed the new flash rom from HTC eclub, (QMR-RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe)
Even if i disable the a-gps using advance config, the problem is still there.
Do you think that problem comes from that new HTC ROM ?
Any solutions?
NO... I had the same problem on old ROM very rarely and solved with Quick GPS , I will see if the problem persist on new ROM...
I had this disconnecting problem too with Tomtom 7,
now with Bepe 0.98 and radio Radio v1.00.25.07, all is OK, no disconnect at all this morning ( 2 hours of GPS use ).
But I don't know what resolve the problem, Bepe's ROM or the new .07 radio
my diamond refuse to accept setting for hardware port and rate......
it always displayed the default (hardware none ,,port 4800)
and always intermittent gps signal...
can u help me?
hmh79 said:
my diamond refuse to accept setting for hardware port and rate......
it always displayed the default (hardware none ,,port 4800)
and always intermittent gps signal...
can u help me?
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Never mind the setting. Is AGPS disabled?
yes its disabled...
A bit strange, mine works perfectly with iGo, it even updates the position (almost) continuously when in pedestrian mode.
Perhaps you could try an auto detect from your GPS program to reset the link. By the way, what soft are you using?
well im using garmin xt and navigon...garmin display that the program and hardware is com:4
thank u for being patient with me....
I know Garmin works on the Diamond, so I'm running out of ideas... I remember reading that some VOIP programs screw the GPS. Did you install any such program?
If not, what I would do is back up my contacts and calendar and do a hard reset to see if this solves the problem. A bit painful, but will certainly answer the question whether there is something wrong with your hardware or not.
well.. i have changed the rom to karmba version, and it works fine for the last 6 hours..
gps functioning well.
may be the fault was in my previous rom (SwiftBL-WWE-Diamond-ROM-v5-5-Lite)
thank you very much for your help
Hi all,
I have a new Diamond from Orange in France and have troubles using my GPS module since it isn't found in a single program.
Now from the artemis I know that there was a different version in France then in the rest and we needed an adapted version of the GPS driver. Is this the case with the Diamond too?
I actually use the duttys rc2 2.7 version ROM and tried visual gps or tomtom6 and 7 with no result. There is no way I can get them to find a gps module.
So may be some one ha a clue??
Thx.
Finally I made the GPS work with Visual GPS on the com port 4 and 9600baud but in Tomtom7 there is a satellite fix in the gps settings but on the main page it says no gps module or sometimes it says waiting for a valid signal and then goes back to no gps hardware....
Any ideas. I have tried with internal or other nmea settings and it both gets the same result.
Regards J.
My Diamond also not found GPS on auto detect. It needs a manual setting of the COM4 with 4800 or 9600 baud.
also to set: Start > settings > system > external GPS => programs => GPS software Port to COM4
To find the satellites it needs some times. But before the GPS program can work with the satellites it also need some times, to get the satellite datas.
Thx,
I did that alreagy, but I can only configure the program/software port since the Hardware settings are always getting back to zero...
And with these settings Tomtom7 is kinda erratic.....
Ignore the hardware Port. Set the hardware port to NONE. (My device set Hardware port automatic to none)
Only the Softwareport must set to COM4. This setting works fine.
fraham said:
My Diamond also not found GPS on auto detect. It needs a manual setting of the COM4 with 4800 or 9600 baud.
also to set: Start > settings > system > external GPS => programs => GPS software Port to COM4
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This worked for me too, although settings were already there, just going into the setting and saving got it going.
OK, i've already searched the forum on this issue (went through all 12 pages of results for the words "tilt" and "gps", and while some others seem to have had this same problem, once they get down to the actual problem, the thread seems to end.
the problem is that ever since I upgraded my 6.0 wm version to 6.1 via the official att rom, my gps does not seem to work at all. and by this, I don't mean that I just can't get a lock on any satellites, but the gps itself doesn't seem to be working at all. i've loaded gpstest and after scanning through all the com ports (skipping com4 which is where it should be), it cannot find any gps device. I have downloaded the quickgps updates and the only other thing of note I would say is that I didn't load the att bloatware with the update. and because it started the moment I upgraded, I don't believe a hard reset would do much (would like to try everything possible beforehand so I don't have to reload everything)
now, if i have skipped the thread that gives the answer to this question, I would very much appreciate a link/response on this, as it's been bugging me for quite some time now. thanks in advance
Did you update the radio as well as the rom? Most 6.0 radios are not compatible with 6.1 roms. See the Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.
radio version is 1.65.21.18, and according to the wiki that should be a working radio for wm 6.1. lists this specific radio under the section "KAISER Radios These Radios were ripped from Kaiser WM6.1 ROMs. "
What program are you trying to use with for your gps? TomTom, Googlemaps?
I think I mastered getting a gps fix and I don't think you will have a problem if I help you.
Please provide
1) what gps application are you using
2) baud rate
3) are you using anything to open your gps port before you attempt to run the program?
4) did you change anything in external gps settings?
redbandana said:
What program are you trying to use with for your gps? TomTom, Googlemaps?
I think I mastered getting a gps fix and I don't think you will have a problem if I help you.
Please provide
1) what gps application are you using
2) baud rate
3) are you using anything to open your gps port before you attempt to run the program?
4) did you change anything in external gps settings?
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1.) well, initially i've just been trying to get gpstest to recognize the fact that i have a gps device at all, but i generally use google maps as my main gps program.
2.) for baud rate, i've been setting at 4800. admittedtly, i'm not sure what the baud rate does, but i've always read that that is the correct setting with few that say otherwise (i've tried multiple settings just to see if they work, they don't)
3.) i can't get anything TO open the gps port, as in gpstest skips com4 when searching for a device, google maps just times out trying to locate a signal (outside, clear view of the sky, before the upgrade i could get a signal sitting in my apartment on the first floor)
4.) i haven't changed anything from what it is at default (gps program port: com4, gps hardware port: none, baud rate: 4800, manage gps automatically is checked)
very much appreciate the help
Shaitheatery said:
1.) well, initially i've just been trying to get gpstest to recognize the fact that i have a gps device at all, but i generally use google maps as my main gps program.
2.) for baud rate, i've been setting at 4800. admittedtly, i'm not sure what the baud rate does, but i've always read that that is the correct setting with few that say otherwise (i've tried multiple settings just to see if they work, they don't)
3.) i can't get anything TO open the gps port, as in gpstest skips com4 when searching for a device, google maps just times out trying to locate a signal (outside, clear view of the sky, before the upgrade i could get a signal sitting in my apartment on the first floor)
4.) i haven't changed anything from what it is at default (gps program port: com4, gps hardware port: none, baud rate: 4800, manage gps automatically is checked)
very much appreciate the help
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sorry about the delay, I was at work and having issues posting a response with opera on this site because it stated I didn't have the proper tokens? No idea...
Anyhow, it appears you have all the right settings which is good. But you are definitely needing a better program to launch your gps. So stop using gps_test, as I offer you HTC_GPS_Tool, attached cab is at the bottom.
1) install cab to main memory
2) open googlemaps>menu>options>gps settings>set manually> com4 > Baud 4800 > click ok> menu select use gps
3) close googlemaps
4) open quickgps and download updates
5) open HTC_GPS_Tool>set com4> baud 9600 (yes 9600) > Click Open> "Hot Start" should be selected below it > let program run for about 45 seconds or more > DO NOT MINIMIZE OR CLOSE THIS APPLICATION BY CLICKING X OR OK
6) open googlemaps by going to start menu as it is the only option to select the application with GPS_Tool open (unless of course you have a hardware button shortcut for it)
7) You should have no issues getting a gps fix on googlemaps within 30-40 seconds for the first time.
8) However if you do receive issues restart this process and at Step 2 change Baud to 9600 in google maps but it shouldn't be necessary. These steps shouldn't be necessary everytime you want to open your gps port. However, if you encounter issues you have HTC_GPS_TOOL to help you. Always remember to update your quickgps outdoors if you plan on using it. Finally, leave your external gps settings alone.
If you have any further questions feel free to ask via pm or back in this thread, that is if mods don't lock it because your question was answered?
i just got done following all of the instructions (i already had htc gps tool installed in my quest to find something that works), and google maps came back and said that no gps receiver was found, even after setting the settings manually exactly as you said.
Shaitheatery said:
i just got done following all of the instructions (i already had htc gps tool installed in my quest to find something that works), and google maps came back and said that no gps receiver was found, even after setting the settings manually exactly as you said.
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ok then something is clashing with your gps. Do you have aGPS disabled?
redbandana said:
ok then something is clashing with your gps. Do you have aGPS disabled?
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it was enabled, just disabled with kaisertweak and am going to try the process once again
ok, we're making progress now lol. after disabling agps, htc gps tool started to actually give me scrolling text like it was working as opposed to the dialog box being completely empty. I goto open google maps, and at first get the same "gps device not found" message, but then for kicks I changed google maps to get gps settings from windows, and now it's past the initializing gps and is finally seeking satellites now. it might be because of a cloudy day today, but neither gps tool or google maps has gotten an actual fix on any satellites
thanks very much for the help so far, can't believe i didn't think of something so obvious to try
just went to grab some lunch, figured i'd try to get a fix on the way, google maps by itself got a fix in less than 5 seconds. thank you very much for taking the time to help me out, i am in your debt