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Hi,
I've tried some OpenGL ES games (usually designed for the X51v)...
Those games don't work, I've got a message "untrusted certificate..."
Call of Duty 2 (software version OK) (www.aspyr.com)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 (software version OK) (www.ionfx.com)
Yeti 3D Engine (www.sourceitsoftware.com/yeti.html)
Chopper Fight (www.omnigsoft.com)
Solterra (http://www.blacksmithstudios.com/solterra/)
Enigmo (www.aspyr.com)
BUT !!!
Stuntcar Extreme accelerated (X51v version) works with our devices but it's very slow... (about 5 fps)...
Strange thing that this game works... about the speed, I really don't know if it's our driver or the poor 3d chip...
I'll try some others...
I don't know what the error message means... somone has an idea ?
Thanks for the info! im very interesting in diamond games performance as its one of main reasons for me to buy it!
have you tried any games on the playstation emulator FPSECE? or PocketSnes?
Thanks
According to the poor GLBenchmark performances, and Stuntcar Extreme OGLES, it seems to be a poor graphic chipset...
Or maybe a poor driver (libgles_cm.dll) but I bear on the first option...
A 3D Accelerator is all that is needed to play such games with requirements that aren't that much really, they need to be optimised for the diamond, or there is some driver issue, that is all.
Most OpenGL ES games I have tried don't work at all for me, Stuntcar Extreme won't even start either will Solterra and that looks pretty good
i managed to run COD2 in hardware mode, very good frame rame rate too!
so i guess its not about a poor 3d chip but more a software issue
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428703
I got Tony Hawk to run with hardware accel!!!the frames are sluggish..maybe needs some tweaking....
Hi ,
wich rom are you using trying those game ?
have you tried ati d3d driver ?
thanx by advance
solterra seems to be freeware , but hard as hell to find ...
i 've seen a great improvement in thps2 with ati d3d .cab ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475493
Hi guizmox
the answer to untrusted ... is here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428703
ive been able to run COD and THPS. problems are controls... and the device gets quite hot when playing even for five minutes. I wish I could play those games... BUt its just way to inconvenient.
yes ... i agree gameplay is horrible ... but it works !
i m going to buy a bluetooth gamepad
So i ve tested many of those games ...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/games/98674-x50v-x51v-2700g-accelerated-game-list.html
all of them are playable and accelerated , but i steel doesnt find x51v versions of fathammers games solterra and stuntcar ...
if anybody has an idea
info : in chopper fight http://www.omnigsoft.com/products/2005/ChopperFight/ChopperFight.html
the demo comes with two files ... only this one is antialised by our chip "ChopperFight11x_Trial_320x320.exe"
dont know why ...
bench
Usefull toy to bench your device with ati driver
http://www.ims.tuwien.ac.at/~daniel/download/BenchGLES_0_2.zip
hi guizmox !
i finally found stunt car extreme for x51 v but it wouldnt run , why have we far different results .. ??
i m using 2.03 official rom with ati d3d drivers
in fact i ve dl every versions of stunt car i found no one is working ..
excuse me for my poor english ..
Solterra
If anyone is interested I have found Solterra for X51v. Tried it on my Diamond:
.DLL files found in main directory are HSS.DLL and ZLIB1.DLL
The game gave me an "Untrusted" error upon start. Copied and renamed lebgles_cm.dll from Windows directory to ZLib1.dll, replaced original. Same thing.
Downloaded sdkcerts.cab and installed. Ran Solterra. Same thing.
Downloaded lebgles_cl.dll (thanks NuShrike!) wrapper, game starts then quits. (Windows Titlebar changes to Solterra momentarily but nothing is visible.)
Downloaded CUBE 2004 x51v, copied and renamed ZlibCE.dll to Zlib1.dll. Solterra can be seen in Windows Titlebar indefinitely. Let PDA sit for 2 minutes. Nothing happened. Screen unresponsive to stylus. Pressed Home Key, Diamond returned to home screen and Solterra crashed.
I have heard a few debates about whether Solterra is freeware or not. The last time I checked the site was down, and Solterra is essentially abandonware (I heard if you clicked the "BuyNow" button on the homepage, you could download the full game for free for a limited time...) but since the site is gone and no information is available I will refrain from posting the link until someone can prove it is freely distributable. (I don't want to anger the mods and get banned on my first post!)
If anyone has any other ideas to get the game running, please let me know. I'll share my results and help others get the game running too. If you want the files, just prove the game is freeware and ill upload it somewhere and post the link. Thanks!
ROM: aFast 2.03 (b30)
Radio: v1.09.25.23
i m looking for solterra for a long time ... where did you find it ?
Please .....
Hi, I think that almost everyone want to play some game on his phone. So, I will test some of them, and post here results, and problems. Most of all, I test demos or freeware games, so actually full game results may by different. I hope this will be helpfull for you.
ofcourse it will be helpfull
thx
So, I prepared some games to test, I will test them later becouse I am still serching info about two PDAMill games. These games are Snails Reloaded (just QVGA) and Anthelion 2 (QVGA and VGA version). For some reason, these games runs much slower on Diamond than on brother´s Asus P535 when its CPU is set to 200MHz! Yes, 200MHz outperform in these games our 528MHZ one. I assume that this is due to incompatibility with WM 6.1. But it is strange. On PDA Mill site, they say that WM 6 is supported. Maybe WM 6.1 or combination of WM 6.1 + VGA is the problem. I dont know. Yes, you can run these games, but at speed of snail. Firts I thought that maybe transform from QVGA to VGA is the problem, but Anthelion 2 has VGA version too, and this VGA version was as laggy as QVGA version. If you think that Anthleion is 3D game, and Diamond maybe just cannot handle 3D, it is wrong. Even menu in this game is stupidly laggy, concretelly transtions in menu. And Snails Reloaded act just like Anthelion 2, and they are just 2D game. But I forgott that VS Bench on our devices is very good 2500+ points, that this isnt due to slow Diamond CPU. (VS Bench of Asus P535 is in 520 MHz mode 2300 points and on 200 MHz mode only about 1000 and it still outperform Dimand) .
So, for now I can say that you can play these games, but prepare yourself for laggy game experience.
Next game I tried is Duke Nukem 3D - this is even worst - becouse you can not even run it. After loading, screen goes black, and you must restart it. This is bad news, becouse I liked Duke Nukem 3D on PC, and I played it a lot on my previous WM 5 phone. This game doesent like VGA or WM 6.1.
And for now last one: Call Of Duty mobile. This nice 3D Game runs great, you will get even better framerate than previously mentioned Asus P535 in 520 MHz mode. Still, this game is not smooth, but definattely playable. First game which runs on Diamond slightly better than on P535 (520MHZ adjustable CPU).
More games speed and copatibility info will be here soon.
Nice work keep it up , may want to put them in a list format , with links to the games as well
For ref Age of Empires Gold Edition, Works fine on the Diamond
One question: Where can I buy a licence key to have a full verion of Age of Empires Gold Edition?
Fred
Yes, I know. For now, I will add games just as new replys, but I will make some list in future, when more games will be tested. I can add links, if you want, but remember that most apps I am testing are demo versions, but some freeware will be there too.
Has anyone tried bejeweled 2 yet? I don't wanna install mines until my screen protector arrives!!
best game ever bejeweled 2
I Have Working:
My Little Thank - Just some problems to acess the register screen but works
Solitaire City - Works Fine
SkyForce Rel. - Does not work
Skyforce - Does not work
Bejeweled 2 - Works
Rocket mania - Works
Tradewinds 2 - Works
Insane Aquaium Deluxe - Works
Dielmann said:
One question: Where can I buy a licence key to have a full verion of Age of Empires Gold Edition?
Fred
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IIRC, you cna't - it's long been abandoned.
Siruss said:
SkyForce Rel. - Does not work
Skyforce - Does not work
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Did you contact the developer? It's working just greta on all my other VGA devices, incl. WM6.1 ones - that is, it must be incompatible with the Qualcomm chipset.
Double post - bad connection - sorry
Pocket Heroes - works great
Leomnade Inc.- works but can't get pass the beginning menu
Tombraider - seems to work, as I can't get pass the menu because of missing hardware buttons
Lemmings 1.0 - the screen is black but I can hear the music
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
Worms - work great but luck of hw buttons (can't shot, jump and so one)
Houseofdead 3d - works but slow
Poket Quake - shows menu but the game is blank window
Transport Tycoon - stucks on loading screen
koven said:
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
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is that 3D_Asphalt_3.jar ? under Jblend v3.2.8 20061016c, it ran full screen on VGA; see the compatibility chart in my MIDlet Bible.
no it's PPC game (*.cab)
Hi Pokvitek, May be the reason for not working / poorly working games on Diamond compared to other (older) VGA devices is that the Games are developed for Open GL processing whereas our Diamond has seperate Qtc processing (the 3D accelerator chip)...
Can anyone put more light on this??
Anyone use or know of a good NES emulator. I would kill to have mario, master blaster, etc on my diamond.
thanks
If anyone would like to have an really good Lemmings Port, look here:
CAB: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/PocketLemmings.cab
If problems occured with moved grafics or similar, then exchange this .EXE: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/LemmingsCE.exe
YouTube Movie: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=11_bG6--h6U
Level AddOns ZIP: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/LemPack_Custom.zip
Thats the first Port ive seen, that leans on the original game, with full levels from "Lemmings" and "Oh No More Lemmings". All you really need, is the "main.dat" file from your (hopefully ) original Lemmings...
I dont know, I personally think that Open GL is not the issue. Anyway, some games dont work due to WM 6.1, some due to VGA, and some due to problem that nobody knows. Qualcomm chipset has ARM 11 operation CPU, so this should not be problem. About Skyforce, I have not a solution, but an idea. I found something interesting. We all know spb benchmark, and with new ROM Diamond has in graphics about 1600 points. This bench can not use Hardware acceleration, so this must be result of just 528 MHz Main CPU. Now, point is that i thought that Diamond grapics index is low due to WM 6.1, but I found other phones running WM 6.1, and they had graphics index about 3000, with 400MHZ CPU. So, I was sad, becous it seemed that Diamond is just piece of crap. THEN I found something interesting, graphic index of IPaQ 214 - WM 6.1 VGA device, with 624 MHz Marvell Monahan 310 CPU. His grphic index was about 1600 too. So, device of this strenght, like IpaQ 214 definnetelly is, should outperform Diamond. So, I guess, that there is something. I dont know what, but I am sure that is.
koven said:
Pocket Heroes - works great
Leomnade Inc.- works but can't get pass the beginning menu
Tombraider - seems to work, as I can't get pass the menu because of missing hardware buttons
Lemmings 1.0 - the screen is black but I can hear the music
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
Worms - work great but luck of hw buttons (can't shot, jump and so one)
Houseofdead 3d - works but slow
Poket Quake - shows menu but the game is blank window
Transport Tycoon - stucks on loading screen
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WORMS: there is a patch available to assign the sound up and sound down buttons to jump and backflip. then evrything works
NES emulators do not work properly because the lack of hardware buttons. the onscreen buttons do not work very well.
why does it happen that when everytime i install a game for ppc , the resolution for the game will be very small ? it happens on every game that i install on the phone.
if the game is hardcoded to qvga
and real vga dont help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2818509#post2818509
there is nothing anybody can do
That's what happens when you get Free Online Games. If you pay for the game and it was built specifically for the PPC it will use full resolution
Hi, Guys !
I was wondering if someone has tried some of the game emulators we have for WM - NeoGeo, Mame, Gameboy, PS1 and etc... and if yes, could you share your opinion about them and their performance on the X1 cause this could be a good solution to the otherwise poor with cool WVGA game titles phone .. Thank a lot
I tried mame. It works quite fine. Only problem is with lack of buttons to control the games. I guess this will be problem for all emulators.
Use search, there have been plenty of topics.
The best emulator is definitely MorphGear. It can emulate almost anything, from NES, SNES and Gameboy to Sega Megadrive and more! You can play in fullscreen in WVGA resolution. The smoothest speed possible on an emulator. Full customization of the keys. It is the best.
MorphGear is GD slow! i've tried only genesis module, which i had to use FPS = 4 and disable sound to be able to play on the right speed... so i concluded snes module will be even worse... anybody can run MorphGear in a decent manner??? i use PicoDrive, which runs perfectly smooth WITH SOUND!!!! it's also possible to use the hard keyboard keys, so after some training it became really playable.... minor drawback: you have to install wvgafix3 (search for it here at xda) to run it on xperia..... go for PicoDrive, you won't regret.....
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MorphGear is GD slow! i've tried only genesis module, which i had to use FPS = 4 and disable sound to be able to play on the right speed... so i concluded snes module will be even worse... anybody can run MorphGear in a decent manner??? i use PicoDrive, which runs perfectly smooth WITH SOUND!!!! it's also possible to use the hard keyboard keys, so after some training it became really playable.... minor drawback: you have to install wvgafix3 (search for it here at xda) to run it on xperia..... go for PicoDrive, you won't regret.....
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MorphGear does all of those + fullscreen. Super Mario ftw!
Morphgear is very laggy for me when playing super mario. Any tweaks?
Very interested in this topic too!!!
I have messed around with mame quite a bit and am using FBA 0.14/0.12...i am sooo sad, that they do not develop this project anymore...without sound, the speed is not bad for some games!..with sound it lags too much i am afraid =/
cannot wait to test the ones you mentioned!
I tried pocket dosbox and played spelljammer pirates of realspace for a bit worked fine
... about MorphGear. GAPI runs the fastest on it but it doesn't work right. It scales the screen so it shows only a part of the gaming screen ... anybody know a fix for this?? Been wrecking my brain recently trying to get it work. With other display modes the fps just sucks.. Pocketgba I think uses GAPI and it runs supersmooth, but has numerous other problems so I'd prefer MorphGear.
ps. been searching this forum and googling this problem for like forever now
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Morphgear is very laggy for me when playing super mario. Any tweaks?
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I haven't done any special tweaks. Just the regular stuff.
Haven't tried morphgear but pocket gba is slow
Dear Developers,
I am not much into mobile gaming, but I wanted to play a bit with Dungeon Defenders. I've installed the game, downloaded the content form the developers site, installed the game on the internal SD.
Unfortunately, the performance of the game is much lower than I expected on a TEGRA dual core device. The FPS is low, down to unplayable with multiple units at the dungeon.
Is there any solution for that? I have stock ROM, stock applications plus a few utilities (JuceDefender etc.) installed plus maybe 6 widgets.
Changing ROM is not an option for me as it voids warranty with my damn Polish LG branch :/
Help is very appreciated
Check if there are multiple other games running in the background like the pre instaled Shrek Karting and Spiderman games.
Kill the tasks or reboot and try again. I never played Dungeon Defenders much, but for the time I played it on the stock ROM it was absolutely smooth.
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Dear Developers,
I am not much into mobile gaming, but I wanted to play a bit with Dungeon Defenders. I've installed the game, downloaded the content form the developers site, installed the game on the internal SD.
Unfortunately, the performance of the game is much lower than I expected on a TEGRA dual core device. The FPS is low, down to unplayable with multiple units at the dungeon.
Is there any solution for that? I have stock ROM, stock applications plus a few utilities (JuceDefender etc.) installed plus maybe 6 widgets.
Changing ROM is not an option for me as it voids warranty with my damn Polish LG branch :/
Help is very appreciated
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End all tasks using your task manager and then launch the game again, if for some reason the performance doesnt improve much then lower the video enhancement in the settings and that should make it run very smothly.
Overclocking to play this game helps alot too but it causes it to get hot like above 43c which isnt good.
Yes, the performance of this particular game on the O2X is embarrassing when you get to bigger maps such as the Ramparts. If you aren't playing it online, turning on flight mode will help a bit.