rdp on market called remote wondering if anyone has used it i think its only 1.99 or something not far off...currently using android vnc and tight vnc...
I'm interested in this too... The package available on the market has some good comments, but I'd much prefer a free (libre & gratis) version.
There are a couple of projects on google code, but they're both inactive (and created by the same person?)
http://code.google.com/p/desktoid/
http://code.google.com/p/connectoid/
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Hey everybody,
I was thinking about Cydia for the iPhone and thought..why doesn't android have that? So I was wondering if android does have something like that already or one that is in the making. If not then I was going to try and develop something similar. Only it will be one that is very, very basic. Here is how I planned it out.
1. Create an app that has a list of directories
-ROMS
-Scripts
-Apps (Ones such as swapper.apk etc. not ones from market)
* In the ROM's directory there will be a list for different phones
2. To transfer files an ftp server would be used ( I actually don't have one but was hoping someone would be able to offer an alternative or a server)
3. The app would then use the android browser to download the file and place it in the correct location ( updates would go in root of /sdcard or apps would be installed with the package manager)
Like I said I was thinking of something very basic..if this would be redundant then I'll just forget about it.
What does everyone else think?
wasnt there that SAM application? I wiped and never reinstalled it. i'm sure i can find the apk around here. also not the same but there is also a handango app.
Edit: ok did some quick searching... found the site: http://slideme.org/sam2 and http://slideme.org/sam... i hope that helps
That would have to be all custom... side note cydia uses debian binaries such as apt-get and dpkg which afaik is possible since you can install debian on your phone, and on the other hand android market uses a closed source xml.
Cydia is more than just a frontend for http/wget. It is a port of Debian APT. Iirc saurik did make some passing notes about possibly bringing APT to Android. However, from the lack of any implementation thus far, I can only surmise that he has either lost interest, doesn't feel Android needs an APT-based repository, or some mix of both.
You have to understand the main reason why Cydia is a very popular platform for iPhone. iPhone natively does not allow any outside app installation. Thus, Cydia provided a very good central repository for apps outside of Apple's app store system. Android, OTOH, was built from the ground up permitting the user to install apps from any source. Thus, there was never a burgeoning need to have a Cydia clone made because anyone could install apps from their own http server, from adb, from a sdcard, from a third party market.
Ah I should've done a little more research on cydia then. From what my friend told me he says that Cydia is just another appstore for the iPhone and that's it ( the android market is pretty open as opposed to the iPhone). That's the last time I listen to someone who bought an iPhone over an android phone.
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Ah I should've done a little more research on cydia then. From what my friend told me he says that Cydia is just another appstore for the iPhone and that's it ( the android market is pretty open as opposed to the iPhone). That's the last time I listen to someone who bought an iPhone over an android phone.
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To be honest, your friend sounds like doesn't know alot about the debian package system. You should take a look. It's very interesting, and it shows how primitive M$ and crApple products have become (pardon my invectives). Linux really is on the cutting edge on these fronts, and the linux backbone is what makes android so powerful.
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To be honest, your friend sounds like doesn't know alot about the debian package system. You should take a look. It's very interesting, and it shows how primitive M$ and crApple products have become (pardon my invectives). Linux really is on the cutting edge on these fronts, and the linux backbone is what makes android so powerful.
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Yup Debian has become the most used partition on my laptop but I keep Windows around just in case, also after researching about Cydia it sounds a lot like the Synaptics Package Manager ( correct me if I'm mistaken) and the Software Sources under Linux.
jashsu said:
You have to understand the main reason why Cydia is a very popular platform for iPhone. iPhone natively does not allow any outside app installation. Thus, Cydia provided a very good central repository for apps outside of Apple's app store system. Android, OTOH, was built from the ground up permitting the user to install apps from any source. Thus, there was never a burgeoning need to have a Cydia clone made because anyone could install apps from their own http server, from adb, from a sdcard, from a third party market.
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Thanks for the whole understanding, never thought it as that way
A central app for downloading and publishing ROMs, recovery images, and the like (not apps) would be quite cool, though, and tethering applications are still disallowed from the Android Market (at least in the United States).
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Synaptics Package Manager ( correct me if I'm mistaken) and the Software Sources under Linux.
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Synaptics is more or less just a frontend for apt.
coolbho3000 said:
A central app for downloading and publishing ROMs, recovery images, and the like (not apps) would be quite cool, though, and tethering applications are still disallowed from the Android Market (at least in the United States).
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No argument here. More options for users is always better (i'm talking to you, Apple Inc), especially when its a platform as elegant as Cydia.
There really is no need for anything like that on the g1 because the market is so free/open. As opposed to the app store which you have to go through a regulatory commission in order to get an app published.
the other part of the idea is good though, having rom selections that could just download update.zips to you phone. Also it would be cool to have scripts and other things you could download to that you cannot get in the market.
I would probably do it jsut for that but it will not be anywhere near as smooth as cydia nor will it run in the same manner
Sorry guys, I told a bunch of lies...because I had forgotten something very basic.
Cydia does NOT utilize *.deb packages like the debian apt system (the one synaptic uses). Cydia is a PORT repository (it holds ported programs, and other programs) designed for the BSD variant system that apple uses. As such, the systems are not compatible. IE cydia would not work on android and vice versa. Part of the problem with an apt based system on android is that it would have to deal with all the dependency issues inherent in typical linux software. To be honest, you'd have to design a completely new set of repositories, and that would be a LOT of work.
Although the current market system isn't quite as sweet as a full fledged debian package system, android isn't exactly a full fledged distro or anything. I think this is one that won't really work WELL until phones get beefier (IE to make it work well you'd need a BIG sd card and a snapdragon chip). You could get it working without those things, but the benefits just wouldn't be that great, because running programs that were small or didn't have a lot of dependencies negates the point of using a package manager.
I'm sorry for misspeaking, and I hope this clears things up.
well that's ok cause that's not what i was trying to do, this is only if I understood you correctly. I do not want port Cydia nor do I want to mimic exactly what it does. Cydia-like was the closest description I could come up with. Anyways, this idea is kind of redundant now that i saw this ( which I think has been up for a while)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543082
What are people's thoughts on Sugarsync and Teradesk?
I've tried both:
Sugarsync has 2GB free while Teradesk only has 1GB free. The Teradesk Android client is "prettier" and more polished but also not as easy and straight forward as Sugarsync. The Teradesk client is also twice the size. I also find the Teradesk web interface more complicated to use.
I haven't tried either of the desktop clients.
Boy I wish there was a Dropbox client for Android!
Thoughts?
They are currently working on one... and i heard that androlib.com has a beta release, but it wont show up in the market on my phone which leads me to believe that its only for users running 2.0 or higher.
I have been trying to find out what applications are available in the Marketplace. But as far as I can see, apart from a few examples on the Microsoft site, a WM7 device is required in order to browse the Marketplace.
I'm sure I'm missing something but I would like to know what apps are available before buying a device. Can anyone suggest a URL?
Download the Zune Software for PC found here:
http://www.zune.net/en-US/products/learningcenter/zunemarketplace/default.htm
Install then browse the apps/music/videos downloads available at your leisure
That's done it.
Thanks Bukwit
(still seems a strange way of marketing to me tho)
can you browse iOS apps from a webpage provided by apple? and it's not advertising it's getting you to use their products, Zune is a big part of their media plans so the more people who install it
I have a project that I'm trying to do which is a database, and really I need it to be available as an app on phones, but with the ability to upload/download records from a shared database online.
I.e. local shell where data records can be entered, and either just stored/retrieved locally, or uploaded to the online database for others with the same app to access and vice versa.
I've looked at Memento and HandBase and in terms of the local database side of things they look good because they can be customised easily (for a database no-nothing like me), but I have no idea about whether they can do the online bit or how I would do that.
Are there any services which would offer online storage/sharing (ideally free to at least test!) of the data from apps like these? And if these particular app examples won't do the online bit is there one that anyone knows of that would do what I want?
I'm no good at databases but find apps at this level easy enough to use. So it'd need to be reasonably idiotproof. Probably am asking too much here, but thought it's worth asking in case there is something that suits my needs without needing to be a database boffin.
As the icing on the cake, it would be great if it could also be used on desktops as well. Does such a thing exist that does all this and can be set up by a simpleton?
Thanks for any useful suggestions in advance.
Actually, the more I read about Memento, the more it looks like it can pretty much do all of this, fairly easily via google docs and/or their own servers.
From the look of it also, if I wanted a database that required payment for access I'd just take a paypal payment for instance, and then grant the user access via adding their email address to the list of permitted users? Think that's how it works but if anyone uses Memento and can confirm this sort of thing that'd be cool.
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
webmiester said:
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
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I work with Remix as a Ambassador I will post this to the board and see if I can get you a answer for your issue. Will be in touch ASAP.
webmiester said:
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
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heh no the mini in the current state is not good for education (root need soldering),you should try cloud ready the Chrome os distribution for pc,they are fond of chromebooks in education I think
tailslol said:
heh no the mini in the current state is not good for education (root need soldering),you should try cloud ready the Chrome os distribution for pc,they are fond of chromebooks in education I think
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Thank you Taillol for your suggestion of using Chromebooks. Chromebooks are currently not in my mind as one of the viable solutions though. I heard that most applications of Chrome are dependent on the internet. What I like with Android is that it has enough applications which can load locally like office apps and paint programs. So in this case, I can free up bandwidth if the user decides to use any app found in its memory.
Android also has applications which are very similar or almost identical to their windows and Linux and Mac desktop counterparts. For instance, I plan to use the android version of textmaker HD for the android boxes while using either the linux or windows versions for the offices using PC (or even use the remix x86). In this way, the applications will look the same in whatever machine they will use. Although google office is also available in all these platforms including chrome, I dont want to get a subscription for business.
wastate2014 said:
I work with Remix as a Ambassador I will post this to the board and see if I can get you a answer for your issue. Will be in touch ASAP.
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Thank you so much Wastemeter2014. I was hoping to come up with some sort of solution soon as I was planning to buy the Remix mini units already this week. Ill have to wait for your reply.
Sorry for the delay, Tailslol is a member of the same Ambassador team. I have forwarded your request to the engineering team. I have a few ideas I will try today but the current OS has limited options in which to lock it down to the extent you are looking for. That being said, please allow me a little further time to consult further I havn't forgotten you.
webmiester said:
Thank you Taillol for your suggestion of using Chromebooks. Chromebooks are currently not in my mind as one of the viable solutions though. I heard that most applications of Chrome are dependent on the internet. What I like with Android is that it has enough applications which can load locally like office apps and paint programs. So in this case, I can free up bandwidth if the user decides to use any app found in its memory.
Android also has applications which are very similar or almost identical to their windows and Linux and Mac desktop counterparts. For instance, I plan to use the android version of textmaker HD for the android boxes while using either the linux or windows versions for the offices using PC (or even use the remix x86). In this way, the applications will look the same in whatever machine they will use. Although google office is also available in all these platforms including chrome, I dont want to get a subscription for business.
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Yes i am an ambassador too.
And we are looking for a solution internally.
Current version of the mini lack of tools for this kind of use.
I was suggesting Chromebooks mostly because they have Google adminstrative tools and recent ones have access to Android play store.
tailslol said:
Yes i am an ambassador too.
And we are looking for a solution internally.
Current version of the mini lack of tools for this kind of use.
I was suggesting Chromebooks mostly because they have Google administrative tools and recent ones have access to Android play store.
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I would agree that chrome would be better suited at this point. The parental tools on Google Play I looked at today still would not lock it down the way you would like. The software engineers have your request.
First, I really appreciate the interest you've shown. I've been talking to the developers and here's the latest.
To fulfill the needs of your scenario, there is development work that we need to do. To that end, there is good news and bad news.
The bad news is, we haven't had the resources and time to develop it yet, so the Mini or any Remix OS product right now can't claim to support Mobile Device Management or any type of kiosk mode fully.
However, the good news is that two weeks ago, we started the ball rolling on this development. The timing is unclear, but we are aiming for the end of Q1 or early Q2 2017 with the releases for Remix IO and Remix IO+. This development should also provide Minis with administrative rights and management ability.
I'd hope that you do stay in touch and when we have it done, we'll update you then.
Thanks!
webmiester said:
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
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RemixOS_Jason said:
First, I really appreciate the interest you've shown. I've been talking to the developers and here's the latest.
To fulfill the needs of your scenario, there is development work that we need to do. To that end, there is good news and bad news.
The bad news is, we haven't had the resources and time to develop it yet, so the Mini or any Remix OS product right now can't claim to support Mobile Device Management or any type of kiosk mode fully.
However, the good news is that two weeks ago, we started the ball rolling on this development. The timing is unclear, but we are aiming for the end of Q1 or early Q2 2017 with the releases for Remix IO and Remix IO+. This development should also provide Minis with administrative rights and management ability.
I'd hope that you do stay in touch and when we have it done, we'll update you then.
Thanks!
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Thanks so much.
I downloaded the x86 version of the Remix and installed it on a PC. I noticed that the PC version gave options on bootup. One of them was a "guest mode". From the description it says that "Guest Mode" cannot save anything. Does this include the inability to install apps? The Guest Mode sounds like it can work, but I wasn't able to explore the PC version so extensively.
If so, maybe we can have a "guest mode" for the Remix mini too then simply password protect the "Resident mode" so students wont simply reboot and choose "Resident Mode" on reboot. If the guest mode already exists for the x86 version, then I suppose the code for this type of admin control is already available. Thanks.
webmiester said:
Thanks so much.
I downloaded the x86 version of the Remix and installed it on a PC. I noticed that the PC version gave options on bootup. One of them was a "guest mode". From the description it says that "Guest Mode" cannot save anything. Does this include the inability to install apps? The Guest Mode sounds like it can work, but I wasn't able to explore the PC version so extensively.
If so, maybe we can have a "guest mode" for the Remix mini too then simply password protect the "Resident mode" so students wont simply reboot and choose "Resident Mode" on reboot. If the guest mode already exists for the x86 version, then I suppose the code for this type of admin control is already available. Thanks.
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you can install app but not large ones due to the limitation of ram and usb drive size and none will stay when the computer reboot. account information will not stay too.