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Hello,
I just got an AT&T Tilt. I want to be able to run Opera Mini and the Java GMail app at the same time, without having to close one first. I have not found a way to do this. Whenever one is running, if I try to run Java again, it just goes right to the running program.
I also followed the instructions at: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
This created shortcuts to both GMail and Opera Mini. However, if I run OperaMini, then run the shortcut to GMail, it just activates the already running Opera.... same effect as selecting "Java" from the start menu with one already running.
Has anyone figured out a way to run more than one midlet at a time with the Tilt?
On my 8125 (Wizard?) I was able to run multiple midlets, which I believe was the Intent version of Java.
Thanks for any help!
Good question ! I was also wondering about that.
Thanks for the link that helped me create shortcuts, the tckmax trick isn't working for me though, I still get asked about permissions on the Kaiser? Ah I see that "flexte" pointed it out over there already, must be some extra security on our little Kaiser then!
How do you uninstall Opera 9.5? It doesn't appear on remove programs. Also it is now my default browser and there's no way to turn that off.
I'll see what I can find. In the meantime, should you ever want to install Opera 9.5 Beta in the future (after you flash a ROM for example), you should use Chanifire .cab here. As this allows you to uninstall it via "remove programs"
File Chanifire.cab not found, I have the same problem. There is someone that have unistall Opera Mobile 9.5 beta?
there was 2 versions
one where you cannot uninstall
one where you can
-both in the same opera 9.5 thread in develpment and hacking
but all u have to do is delete the opera files in windows folder(2) and go to appdata and delete that. There may be a few reg entries changed but nothing to worry about :]
I removed it by searching for opera after synchronization with the computer in the PDA windows - 4 files were found - these were deleted
How do you get into Setup on Opera9
Does anyone know how to get into the setup for Opera 9 - I somehow did it one time and now cannot figure out how.
I so far like this browser - way better than the mini! What is needed is for someone to tweak the chooser script and substitute mini for this one and that way we can choose between ie and O9 when a link is clicked.
There a a ton of files & registry entries you must delete manually.
I kinda like opera, (it's really 9.33 btw) but I hate how it hijacks html, htm, xml, etc...
What I did was use my latest sprite back up & did a partial restore. What you do is launch sprite, select restore, select the most recent backup file, uncheck everything *except the one check box for system settings located in the system data tab. Then restore only that infomation.
This will reset your recent registry & file association setting only. It will leave your programs & other data intact.
Then if you want to uninstall you only have to delete the 2 opera file in \Windows & the \Application Data\Opera9 files.
If you just delete these files you will have problems with file associations & that is a bit more difficult to fix unless you know the correct Executable & image files to point to.
bsw11 said:
Does anyone know how to get into the setup for Opera 9 - I somehow did it one time and now cannot figure out how.
I so far like this browser - way better than the mini! What is needed is for someone to tweak the chooser script and substitute mini for this one and that way we can choose between ie and O9 when a link is clicked.
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This would only require a modification of the Mortscript file used for Opera mini.
alsarrag said:
I removed it by searching for opera after synchronization with the computer in the PDA windows - 4 files were found - these were deleted
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Okay, & now go open an xml or html file
I know that the mortscript needs to be changed.
My main question is how do you get into the setup for Opera 9 - does anyone know the way?
What do you mean by "setup"???
Are you talking about the direction as to where files & registry changes are made? Then Try Below:
If you're talking about regular Settings then you touch the lower right part of the screen, Press the arrow that pops up then scroll to settings.
ALSO: you can open up any of the .ini files located in \Application Data\Opera9\xxxx (xxx= any of the folders beyond) using notepad or with Resco's internal viewer. They can also be modified using your desktop notepad.
I figured it out, thanks - the problem is that on my Tilt, in Portrait mode the icon for setup is missing due to the large size of the icons on the bottom.
I was in landscape mode when I got it to work .
For now, I am using netfront 3.5 - not as nice looking but works better overall.
I am on the waiting list to try skyfire.
I feel like I should just go on vacation for a couple months (or sleep) and when I wakeup all these problems (drivers etc, better iphone like interface) will be solved!!
Does anyone know where we can make a formal complaint to opera about its hijacking our file associations? I refuse to use this software anymore until I know this will not happen. It has made for a long night of reg edits that didn't really get me anywhere. After manually configuring pie to be my default browser I still couldn't open .htm files by clickin' on the in my file browser, had to backup to yesterdays settings and I change many things on a daily basis, Well restoring settings is finished I have allot of work to redo...
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Does anyone know where we can make a formal complaint to opera about its hijacking our file associations? I refuse to use this software anymore until I know this will not happen. It has made for a long night of reg edits that didn't really get me anywhere. After manually configuring pie to be my default browser I still couldn't open .htm files by clickin' on the in my file browser, had to backup to yesterdays settings and I change many things on a daily basis, Well restoring settings is finished I have allot of work to redo...
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It's a leaked version. They even warned you.
This is not 9.5 beta please change the title.
Has anyone figured out how to restore file associations after installing this FUC... ****?
Thanks
How can be removed this version. I manage now to use version 8.65 but how can I regain those 8mb without hardreset?
BTW, I found that not too many people know or remember this, but you can type "Opera:Config" into the address bar to get into the advanced setup features for Opera.
How to Uninstall and remove opera
Just intall an uninstallable version, then remove it. I just did it and it worked fine.
zkush said:
Just intall an uninstallable version, then remove it. I just did it and it worked fine.
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Hi,
Where can I find uninstallable version?
BR
Asaf
So just deleting the files will do it? If I don't fix the registry will it ruin it? Which cabs are uninstallable?
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
gogol said:
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
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Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
Maybe it's just me but honestly i see no difference between 4.0 and 4.1...
famewolf said:
Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
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What's the importance of having a signed one? I've been using the unsigned 4.1 beta since it came out and I've had no problems.
ProudPop83 said:
Maybe it's just me but honestly i see no difference between 4.0 and 4.1...
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There are several differences. They have them listed somewhere... The main one I noticed in my short time with it was the inclusion of a "synchronize" feature, which syncs bookmarks and some other stuff with their servers. If you use the new beta for desktop machines, it syncs with their servers, too, so your PC Opera and Opera Mobile/Mini are up to date with eachother. Kinda like Microsoft Exchange for web browsing stuff.
Yeah but i dont really use that feature. The one thing i can say is I like the search in page feature.
gogol said:
http://www.operamini.com/features/
Anyone tried to upgrade with your Kaiser/Tilt?
Please post here your experience with this new version, especially the upgrade process.
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Upgraded this morning. Upgrade process was fine...kept bookmarks and settings....I see no problems.
.....and there are differences in 4.1.....most notably, being able to download files without calling upon IE......and it's also supposedly up to 50% faster (which basically just means it could be 1% faster on 99% of the web, but if it happens to be 50% on the other 1%.....then it is "up to" 50% faster in general).
fb401 said:
What's the importance of having a signed one? I've been using the unsigned 4.1 beta since it came out and I've had no problems.
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unassigned asks you everytime when you want to go online for net access. Plus whenever you want to save something to file system using browser it asks you permission to access file system.
Signed version only asks these questions at install and never after that
Upgraded from 4.0 to 4.1 without any problems, kept all my settings and bookmarks also. Did find it took a little while to upgrade so be patient
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Not installing it until they have a signed version like the http://mini.opera.com/beta ones.
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They do, they just messed up the links so you might have to click around, unless they fixed that problem.
can it do copy and paste?
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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The startoperamini thread includes a mortscript which launches opera for you in one step..no need to open java manually first. You can however create a shorcut that calls the java exe and tells it what midlet to launch...should be more info available via search.
The script is alot easier.
Which version of opera 4.1 is better for the Tilt?
I looked at the available HTC models, the Tilt doesn't appear there.
Thank you.
wisniak said:
I looked at the available HTC models, the Tilt doesn't appear there.
Thank you.
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Whats your point? Did you try it? Hell half of us have indicated we are running it and our signature shows a tilt.
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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You cannot start it outside of Java but at least you can start it with one click. Just create a link file and put:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
in it (where 28 is the number of characters and 0 the number of the installed java app.... so they may vary)
put this file in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and there you go.
No need for an extra step.
greetz
I tried the previous(generic) version
And it didn't work.
I asked the question because supposedly there're 2 versions, one is a signed version, the other unsigned.
Further, when I had my HW6910, there were a high-memory version and a "regular" version, and the "regular" version didn't work.
Here is the procedure that I followed for my 4.0 (I also upgraded to 4.1 last evening, everthing is OK). The procedure below works fine, no need to have MortScript and such.
Then you can replace the IE button with that shortcut!
However, I have not tried the selector.utf trick yet (again, it works with the 4.0). I use the "Fix.exe" (attached) to remove that security prompts. Just copy the selector.utf in the same folder, and run that Fix.exe (Make a backup of the utf file first!).
Here is the reference:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
Making a direct shortcut to Opera Mini (or any other Java Midlet)
Since Opera Mini is a Java Midlet application, one annoying aspect is that to run Opera Mini, you must first run the Java Midlet, tap on the "Applications" list item, then tap on the "Opera Mini 4 beta" item. Luckily, some industrious users out there have figured out how to create a shortcut that launches Opera Mini (or any other Java app) directly. Assuming you haven't installed any other Java apps, you need to create a shortcut file (e.g., opera.lnk) pointing to ("\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s1_), or ("\windows\jbed.exe -run s1_"), if using Jbed instead.
The magic portion is the number after the the letter "s" in the shortcut target. This is the list position of the Java Midlet in the Jeodek/Jbed application list. If you install Jeodek/Jbed as a fresh install (non Mogul users), and then directly install Opera Mini, just use the number "0" to refer to Opera Mini ("\windows\jbed.exe -run s0_"). If you install another MIDlet (after Opera Mini), its index will become 1, then the next installed Midlet will have an index of 2, and so on.
Locating the number that corresponds to a Java Midlet
To find which number corresponds to an installed Java Midlet, navigate to the (windows\appdb) folder. There should be some .jar files in there, with one of them being the Opera Mini jar file (or other Java Midlet you wish to target). Whatever the number is after the letter "s", is the number needed in your shortcut link. Only the first part of the file name of the midlet is needed, so lets say, in the appdb folder, you have "s0_suite.jar", for your shortcut target, leave out the suite.jar, and only put "s0_", so your shortcut should point to ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_), NOT ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_suite.jar). A pre-made shortcut file can be found here.
Creating/Modifying Shortcuts on Your Mobile Device
The following lists a couple of ways to create edit/create shortcuts with parameters on a mobile device.
1.) Use the excellent shareware application, Resco Explorer (the method I personally use, and find the easiest).
2.) Create the shortcut manually using any text editor. Shortcuts have the file extension ".lnk". So, for example, lets create a file in a text editor, and save it with the file name OperaMini.lnk, the contents of the file should look similar to this :
Code:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
28# means that the shortcut target, including the parameter (-run s0_) is 28 characters.
Note: A forum user has reported that the freeware application, Total Commander does NOT create the shortcut properly.
After you have created/named the shortcut, all that is left to do is to place the shortcut file in your start menu (\windows\start menu\programs) folder.
Skipping the Connection Permission Prompt (Only applies to JBed)
One of the only negatives of using Jbed, over Jeodek, used to be that any time an application wanted to access to the Internet, Jbed would ask twice if you want to allow the action. It will also forget this permission next time you ran the application, so you would have to give permission every time you ran a Midlet that tried to access the Internet. Thanks to forum user g-funkster, a work around for this annoyance has been found!
1.) Copy the file \windows\appdb\selector.utf to your PC (make sure backup this file first in case something goes wrong!)
2.) Remove read-only attribute
3.) Open the file with a hex editor, and find the line
Code:
domain=untrusted, \
Replace the text untrusted with the text tckmax. Add space characters between the x (in tckmax) and the comma (otherwise connection warnings or a nullpointerexception error may occur). The above line may appear multiple times in the "selector.utf" file, each corresponds to a different Java Midlet you have installed in JBed.
If hex editing is too blackhat for you, g-funkster has created a desktop application that can do this for you automatically! You can find it here.
jtantley said:
I wish you could launch it outside of Java. That extra step is a pain...
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Just had a look at the Opera Mini website linked above. Does anyone know if the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager supports this JSR-75 protocol? At the moment, I am using the Mortscript method to allow opening of links in emails etc in Opera, but direct downloads through Opera sounds very good!
Yes, it does.
fisha21 said:
Just had a look at the Opera Mini website linked above. Does anyone know if the Esmertec Jbed Midlet manager supports this JSR-75 protocol? At the moment, I am using the Mortscript method to allow opening of links in emails etc in Opera, but direct downloads through Opera sounds very good!
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EDIT: Changed task manager from FdcSoft to Schaps Task manager and was able to kill the process with no problems.
Thanks!
Hi Guys,
I was hoping one of you might be able to help me with this rather annoying issue.
I am trying to upgrade from Opera Mobile 1938 on my TP to Opera Mobile 2808 so that I can get the in browser flash support fully working.
The method I am using to perform the upgrade is to copy the 'Opera9.exe', 'OperaL.exe', and 'NPFL3ppc.dll' from Opera 2808 into my Windows folder and overwrite the old Opera 1938 files so that an upgrade is achieved without the possibility of a double install if done via a .cab file or similar.
However, I am having the following problem. I cannot KILL the instance of 'Opera9.exe' that is running in the background and thus I cannot overwrite it with the 'Opera.exe' file from 2808! The other two files I can overwrite OK with Total Commander.
I am using a task manager (FdcSoft Task Manager) and I can see 'Opera.exe' running in the background but the instant that I kill the process, it is automatically relaunched therefore creating a new instance of 'Opera9.exe' and stopping me from overwriting the original.
This is really frustrating and I was hoping that someone here could tell me how to kill the 'Opera9.exe' process for a sufficiently long time to enable me to overwrite it with the 'Opera9.exe' from build 2808.
I am a newbie to this so if the answer is glaringly obvious please go easy on the flaming..
By the way I already tried the .cab file and ended up with two instances of Opera and that is why I am trying this method which many people claim works very well. I just need to know how to kill this 'Opera.exe'....
Thanks,
NC
i kill mine using schaps task manger. i have noticed that FdcSoft Task Manager is buggy with the touchpro
you first have to kill operaPrel.exe. after that you are able to kill opera9.exe
You can disable the push internet if not using, that will kill Opera9.exe
Hello, I was playing with this today. The opera9.exe is started by the push internet service. I used the FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1 and set the service "PushInternetEngine service(PEI0)" to manual and did a soft reset. The Opera9.exe process did not start up. I have not tested this very much, but it is easy enough to set back to automatic if you encounter any issues.
Thanks
Chris
Hi,
I have a wiered problem!
I copied my opera6.adr file from my Diamond 1 over to Diamond 2 in Windows/Opera9 folder but each time I start Opera application, the file gets overwritten.
It seems that I can't manually change the file, it kinda check it md5 checksum or something and reset the file to its original? Could that be the case?
Anybody has the same problem?
Yeah, I have a similar problem, but I'm trying to copy from Opera Desktop to mobile, I've tried every which way I can think of, but each time it reverts back to the previous file and previous (not stock original, but my edited) bookmarks.
I thought it might have something to do with either Opera staying resident in memory or the files not being compatiable.
Anyone had any sucess on the TD2 ??
fixed!
Found a solution
Actually Opera is running the background somehow "always"
Use TaskManager to kill the process and then copy your opera6.adr to Windows/Opera9.
DONE!
Let me know if it works for you also.
OMG it works...
I ended the opera.exe using the CleanRam program, as opera does not show up in the standard task manager, then copied the opera6.adr file to Windows/opera and it works... ...well nearly...
I had to edit my PC version adr file to match the mobile version, they are different:
PC Version
#URL
#URL
ID=17
NAME=Topaz - xda-developers
URL=http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=478
CREATED=1247009761
VISITED=1247012417
DESCRIPTION=
UNIQUEID=475F336566DE1F4DBDE47851FC9A6747
Mobile Version
#URL
ID==13
NAME==BBC NEWS | News Front Page
CREATED==1246185130
URL==http://news.bbc.co.uk/
As you can see the mobile version has more = and the other info is different.
Before I altered it I was getting double folders appearing in the TD2, but after I edited the bookmarks in Word, using Find & Replace to add the extra = to all the = (then remove the extra = from the very top lines (Options))
Great I now have all my bookmarks, what a to do though.
good
Well, I didn't mean the buildt-in task manager! I mean Task Manager from FdcSoft which you can use to see all running processes etc..
But anyhow, great it works for you now
So many Task Managers !!!
Do you have an problem if you select Bookmarks from Touchflo itself rather than from inside Opera, if I click the Bookmarks softkey it locks up Touchflo (and most of the rest of the device)???
It might have something to do with the amount of bookmarks I've got!
Also, although I don't think this problem is related, the other softkey 'Menu' doesn't do anything when clicked, just highlights and thats it, very odd.
dont know
well, actually I dont use Touchflo as I like to see lots of things at once I use windows today plugins to see everything in one screen