What Would You Do? - Off-topic

some of you may or may not know of the winmodevelopers site, its lke ths website but for non htc devices
ok for the past few months we've been having issues
the software we use (IPB v1.3 final) has a few flaws we werent aware of when the site was set up
t doesn't nativley support uploading cab files (a very mportant factor)
as its the last free version so cannot be upgraded wthout cost
you may wonder why im beng so stingy its because we simply cannot afford it
we have so far received no donations as weve always been hosted for free
so the problem we have is we have a domain donated by a member here (Quicksite)
we have phpbb whch is free our forum but what we really need is free places to put the installation
so our opton s to go back to a free phpbb bundle so t can be updated and support cab files
or do i wait for donations for hostng?????
any ideas?????????

I dont think so...
I cant imagine how a new web can be supported by the members...
Money i mean, by donations...
We need to wait till itself grows up...
Many improvements have been set and is nice but many people has HTC devices... the NON htc are minor...
Dont give up men! if you say that we must to move to another free hosting site... we will backup all data... then reupload it... but it cant be three times in a year...

thats another issue the ste we have at the mo provdes no backup facilites whchs means have to do it manually, i thn we my just stick to forum we have now until we pckup members and interest

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Don't forget to read the "Announcement" ROM images will no longer be hosted.

Don't forget to read the "Announcement" ROM images will no longer be hosted.
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
mtvn said:
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now
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Is it really funny 4 u?
But if someone else hosts it?
There are a lot of people out there with webspace (me incluis).... so....
or is this too simple of a thought?
butus73 said:
Is it really funny 4 u?
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Yes, I am. Because some peeps and probably you too, have already announced that they will not use any ROM from any site. They will only use the ROM from the "Master Cook" here.
Do you want to RLOL?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1135447&postcount=13
You can stop hoping and praying now because you won't get any WM6 update for the Wizard or any older model from HTC. Most people already know that, but you probably still hoping I have no problem of using ROM from any Cook from any site. What would you do now? Keep on using the old ROM or "eat" your words and start to use the ROM from the so called "Non-Master Cook"?
swartb said:
Don't expect an official update. This is the reply I received from HTC:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning the HTC P3600 mobile device.
Unfortunately we will not upgrade our current devices to include the Mobile 6 software.? However, there will be new devices out which will include the software.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
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There's the whole reason M$ has made the request....so OEM's can sell new devices instead of providing upgrades to existing devices. It's all in how much profit can they make from those of us that like the latest and greatest.
mtvn said:
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
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It's not only about the new Roms... This meant that everyroms will be taken down.... Man that sucks.....
mtvn said:
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
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M$'s position is truely sad. Guess it is time to look for a phone that will run a version of Linux...
--M
By requesting to remove all roms from this site, M$ is basically killing this forum. People come here to test new updated roms on their phones. Now this really sucks. Now, is it possible to host roms elsewhere?
I'm Pissed
I guess I'll switch to a freakin symbian phone or ahh yes an IPHONE. This kind of crap really reminds me why I can't stand Microsoft! They are not just happy with getting our money.
we knew from the very start about MS totalitarian rule, of course we can work something out, like "we worked"(esp. the great ROM cookers) to make better, faster, and more stable ROMs than MS has ever made, maybe someone is already working out a plan, working around the "system", so that the whole forum will still be alive
I think the cooks must deside for themselves... if they want to place the roms elsewhere; there is no real issue... if they don't, I think it is going to be a less interesting board, the xda-developers, unfortunatelly.
But I think mickey$oft will hunt down every place where the roms reside, so....
I've never really liked Microsoft..*the only reason I don't run Linux is because my wife doesn't know much about it and we only have 1 computer now*..but it was bound to happen sooner or later. With things like people bricking the phones and the whole monopoly that Microsoft has. The only thing I hate is that Faria had upgrades planned for the 3.3.
But texasaggie, I couldn't bring myself to get an iphone. It cost too much for too little. I've just waiting around until a ppc starts to run Linux.
Rapsody said:
I've never really liked Microsoft..*the only reason I don't run Linux is because my wife doesn't know much about it and we only have 1 computer now*..but it was bound to happen sooner or later. With things like people bricking the phones and the whole monopoly that Microsoft has. The only thing I hate is that Faria had upgrades planned for the 3.3.
But texasaggie, I couldn't bring myself to get an iphone. It cost too much for too little. I've just waiting around until a ppc starts to run Linux.
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I guess torrents is the way to go. Since new roms comes very quickly and people would be more interested in the newest ones, torrents should able to stay alive until the next rom release.
M$ can go F themselves. BT everything, rapidshare, yousendit, megaupload or host it in some Cayman Island server. [email protected]@rds each & every one of the corporations.
one of the best sites no the net
hands down, you guys helped me through thick and thin so to all of you, noobs and developers alike, thanks for saving my nuts!!
Maybe M$ is just mad vista boched out
There are many other ways to post the roms
Hope the cooks won't have to waste too much time playing hiding games instead of doing important work
i just downloaded all of them...lol little over 7GB worth!
Harsh words
Ok, I'm probably gonna get killed for saying something like this, but can't you guys give Microsoft a break?
First off, without Microsoft, computers wouldn't be where they are today, the internet wouldn't be as big as it is today and your Wizards wouldn't be around. Sure, maybe some other companies would have filled the void and developed their own programs and things, but it's hard for me to imagine the way Microsoft has gone about developing programs and then marketing them to every man and his dog being replicated by anyone else with the same degree of success.
There are other devices and mobile operating systems out there already. But how many of them can do all the things that a Windows Mobile device can? And how many of them do it as well as a Windows Mobile device?
We can shout at Microsoft all we like, and rip into them forever about wanting to get more money from us for buying new devices. But who really has control over their software? Can we download O2 ROMs direct from Microsoft? Do T-Mobile update their phones via Windows Update like Microsoft update Vista, XP, etc?
AKU's have been released to mobile operators, and new opearting systems (WM6) have been passed over too. It is up to the operators to adapt the software and release it to us, it's customers, or at the very least the device manufacturers.
Until ALL Windows Mobile devices get a lot more memory, and can support a whole host of drivers (that they'll never use but have to to be there to cover other devices), updated ROMs will only come from operators or handset makers. Microsoft provide them with the updates, and then go back to working on the next lot of updates or new system.
So maybe Microsoft is at fault for removing ROMs from sites like this. But the real fault, and something they should definitely look into, is the fact that the people who are able and willing to tweak and change their system to suit the hardware, aren't the people they're giving the software to.
I don't like it any more than you guys do. I've only been using the site for the last couple of months, and that's been a time of a lot of activity with all the excitement of WM6 ROMs popping up and also AKU3.3 ROMs released etc. I would love the site to stay open, so that the brilliant "cooks" in this community could continue their work and support us for free, while the people we paid just sit their doing nothing with Microsoft's hard work in updating the software. But I can also understand where they're coming from, and simply ask that you take a more critical view of the people most of us probably got our phones from (operators like O2, T-Mobile, Cingular etc.) before having a go at the people that provided us with fantastic, if slightly flawed, software that is still better than everything else that's out there.
If it wasn't, why would we still be using it?
P.S. Just give me time to my girlfriend how much I love her before you torture me to death?
Basically taking down the ROMs from this site means moving the whole development projects to the "underground"!
There will be always a site to download the ROMs, only the legal aspcet will change and become (even more) questionable.
Sad, but true
See you again on some of the other sites...
Cheers,
Jago
this was posted over in the hermes forum
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/xdadevs/
I for one have signed up!

Wizard Roms Are Still Available

Some ROMS that were on the FTP before are available on BitTorrent, Azureus, eDonkey or any other P2P Torrent client.
A search for the original posted name of the file in a Torrent tracking site will probably do in most cases.
Beneath you will find a list of ROMs that have been found available through searching on PirateBay:
5._Underground_edition_Crossbow_ROM
AKU3.2-1.0RC1 Wizard Rom
Custom_Aku3.5_V3
CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-6mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-4mb
orwells1984
PDAMobiz_Wizard_Crossbow_AKU3.3_v.3311_G3_only
RUU_Molski.Biz_Faria_AKU3.2-3000_3000_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship
RUU_Wizard_1050402_101_11210_O2_ENG
Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2
Wi6ard_pdaviet3
Wi6ard_pdaviet4
xdaminis-update_22413_2214106_021911GER
Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102
Remember you help the community by leaving the files in your shared folders as long as possible.
Rom distribution is decentralize from XDA.
XDA Cannot and will not host Material on it's servers that is not allowed.
Which basicly means that the people that own or pay for the rights of use to the Domain, webserver and FTP server, thus supplying us the users with these forums, have nothing to do with the distribution of illegal roms.
I will take a looksee, to see if i find other Roms. Any help in this is apreciated off course.
And i will update the list accordingly.
What do you people think of updating the Wiki to explain what the names of these ROMs represent?
Thats good Noonski that you are taking initiative...Dunno if this will be acceptable though or whether M$ will force xda not to even talk about torrents having ROMs (seems unlikely).Anyways, if this is allowed, I'm willing to pitch in to reseed and also seed the ones I already have with me.
But one thing, though choosing one particular site like demonoid might be a good idea in the sense of having a central repository of all ROM torrents but it has its drawback in not giving access to everyone since its a private tracker. Moreover, since you propose the next release of a rom to be closed, this raises 2 questions:
1. Ppl who are not demonoid subscribers can't get em. Is there going to be any invite system in place for demonoid?
2. even with the invite system how will one determine who gets the invite and who doesnt?
I am happy with my ROM collection and honestly this doesnt impact me at all. If I want a WM6 device, i will just buy it.
demonoid is good, i second that, and as for invites, i think i can give out some, we need to start by making a list, lets say by the number of posts, lol i will wont be getting invites since i have been more of a reader than a replier. anyways, but we need to think outside the box, we cant just cave in.
lets see,
our options are:
1. private ftp, maybe ce4arab.com will allow us to use thiers
2. torrents
3. irc
4. newsgroups, hate them since never got how to use them
5. files upload websites
6. gmail, or yahoo spaces
any more?
it has to be done, we need to do this, we will do it.
cheers
I think torrents are a great way to go. I prefer Pirate Bay since registration is closed at Demonoid it is harder to get many new users using for these purposes. If there are existing torrents pm me and I will be happy to seed as well.
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Just downloading the Roms and not reseeding is not being part of a Community, thanks.
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I would love to help out by seeding. I have a T1, not a ton of bandwidth but plenty good to get these pushed out. If someone has something they want me to seed, let me know.
hubono said:
private ftp, maybe ce4arab.com will allow us to use thiers
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I would also be in favor of setting up a private FTP for those who have something to contribute. If it is not in the public eye then we shouldn't have a problem right. I have been using these ROMS for a while now and would love to help out. I have plenty of hard drive space for it, and a Dual Processor server on my T1.
Send me email if you wanna get something done. Perhaps we need a mini private forum outside of the public eye also, just a thought.
cease-and-desist letter from Microsoft....
While the idea is nice, I think It'll only help get Demonoid get a cease-and-desist letter from Microsoft....
Think you better upload them to newsgroups, like a.b.warez.pocketpc or something.....
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Think you better upload them to newsgroups, like a.b.warez.pocketpc or something.....
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I second this. Newsgroups are the way to go.
shantzg001 said:
Moreover, since you propose the next release of a rom to be closed, this raises 2 questions:
1. Ppl who are not demonoid subscribers can't get em. Is there going to be any invite system in place for demonoid?
2. even with the invite system how will one determine who gets the invite and who doesnt?
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I just feeling around a bit. Wading the water.
1. Demonoid has an invite system in place allready.
I have just posted the torrents also on a PirateBay tracker.
And BTW the torrent on demonoid should be open to everyone unless i F^cked up again
2. You are right about deciding who's in or out.
I myself would only invite if i knew that either the user nows what he wants. I could see some of his posts for instance.
It's why having a discussion is a good thing. What do people think is smart. What do the Cooks want.
Do they want the roms to be totally available for everyone including users that should not be playing around with Roms but do add to the attention XDA gets?
As for me i don't care where i post the Roms. It's just that for most of my other torrents i'm a Demonoid user. I'll post them anywhere and seed them anyhow. As long as i don't get them from XDA directly it's none of their biz is it?
matthijst said:
While the idea is nice, I think It'll only help get Demonoid get a cease-and-desist letter from Microsoft....
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Have you seen what else is seeded there?
Vista crack here, Office Version There. Pre release DVD rips........
It looks like most of the stuff up there is not allowed by anyone.
PirateBay here we come
Master K said:
I think torrents are a great way to go. I prefer Pirate Bay since registration is closed at Demonoid it is harder to get many new users using for these purposes. If there are existing torrents pm me and I will be happy to seed as well.
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The three faria roms are available on PirateBay all people now need to do to help out is keep the seeds alive.
Maybe i should reconsider changing my nick there.
if anyone can please seed the PDAviet4 installer that would be GREAT!!! I have been wanting to try it out for a long time now, and i've searched every torrent site i know of and nothing comes up. I myself am helping out with the faria roms. If anyone can please message me with a means of a way to get it, that would be GREAT!
Thank you.
I'd definitely like to see postings of new releases to newsgroups as this is the fastest way to obtain anything that's recent.
I myself have a few roms to share :
buttons 1.05
molski (several)
faria V2 8mb
pdaviet3 / 4
orwells
underground
tmobile 2.26
maybe others...
but I dunno how to post to newsgroups or else
If s/o can explain, i'll be glad to help there
AKU3.2-1.0RC1 Wizard Rom
Yes the thread has been updated.
the
AKU3.2-1.0RC1 Wizard Rom
can now also be found on Pirate Bay.
I want to thank those people that are now reseeding the Faria roms.
I have never stated and will never state that I am the person that uploads these Roms.
Shame that not enough people have picked up on this thread or sollution.
xdaminis-update_22413_2214106_021911GER
Hey it is just getting better.
Don't ask me exactly which rom this is maybe someone can enlighten me?
xdaminis-update_22413_2214106_021911GER
Also available somewhere on the fast planes of the Net.
A couple of Molski's are up. Someone pull and tell me if it was done correctly (I'm new to Torrent)
links and seeding
currently seeding aku 3.3 8mb page pool
also if anybody wants to pm me i will get back to them i have the links for the rom above and the wizard love rom on a very quick share server
8mb broadband and no leechers
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
Indeed seems like also RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
&
RUU_Molski.Biz_Faria_AKU3.2-3000_3000_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
Are working fine on the Bay.
It's also funny to see how the 8Mb faria version is one of the favourites.
Running it myself and loving it.
Also funny to see how these Roms get seeded better than Movies.
(in other words to stay seeded even without leeches, which means a better availability, Yes it my make your seed list bigger, but some torrent clients have filters)
If only we can figure a workaround to MS request for new roms. As it clear that any new release has to be provided by a Cook. And that means a Cook can always be traced to it's afiliation and responsibility of getting the Roms out there. On th other hand A Cook is not XDA-Devs. They just use the Forums to discuss their builds! I asume that since this post (up until now) has not been blocked by an Admin. It means they do not condone this endavour. But still some input of what would be wise to post and what not. Like setting up some forum rules like not anwsering questions to users about where to find the roms. Because let's face it anyone that does not know how to find downloadable content should not be messing with their phoner?
So i'm still waiting for the big shots really. In the mean time i'll just continue my epic search for The Lost Roms!
I have a htc wizard (T-mobile MDA) and I'm not sure which rom to use in the following. What is the difference between them?
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-6mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-4mb
Thanks for any help

(req) Xbox Live Gamertag App ?

This is to request a Xbox Live gamertag app for winmo. There is one for the Iphone of all systems, how come MS hasnt done one for WM is beyond my imagination. There was talk back in 2006 for it, but was never launched. Can anyone create an app, Im sure alot of live gamers would be interested
What should it do? Perhaps link to the iPhone version
to be able to see the friends list, your gamercard info, etc.
Thx
Hey, i haven't tried this as i lost my diamond, but zumobi might be what u want, its free i think, so give it a try.
I did and so did of alot of other users and it doesnt work 80% of the time, good attempt, but it wont let you see your own gamercard, yet alone your friends ...
damvigilante said:
Hey, i haven't tried this as i lost my diamond, but zumobi might be what u want, its free i think, so give it a try.
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Correct, they do provide it, but it sucks, and they are 80% offline or out of service. So stay away from Zumobi if you want to live happy otherwise, you'll be throwing your diamond instead of loosing it
Cheers
There was a commercial release. I think it was $5 which I saw in Dev & Hacking. It might be worth a search.
Here you go guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4517458
A newer version with lots of info coming soon too

[DEBATE] this forum, cooked roms, chefs and donations...

guys,
please read the text below and let me know what you think about it...
although people try to mask the situation by giving it good names the truth is that this is happening and something has to be done before things get worse.
some folks are using this forum to sell what they call 'their' products. they get these ROMs, they make changes to it by adding or removing software. then they publish it as if they are 'sharing' their 'work' but, strangely, they do it in a very commercial way by naming their 'work' with appealing words to get attention.
when these ROMs go published, they often take a few first posts of the thread as they have a lot of information to add..... and screenshots to publish..... and donations to 'suggest'...... and donors' names to publish.
sometimes it will happen that a few folks who are trying these home cooked ROMs with applications that are less likely to be used by most people will end up having serious problems that eventually will get fixed by the 'chef' .... on a new version.
the principle of sharing a piece of work entirely made by yourself is that it cannot be asked anything in exchange otherwise, even if slightly suggested, it's nothing but a sale and by getting copyrighted software, making changes to it, 'sharing' and suggesting donations from the testers, well.... i'm pretty sure this isn't completely nice.... and either legal.
although i never really bothered to look into these roms to see what's really inside them (even flashing them on my phones sometimes) i decided to do it earlier this week. the funny thing you see when you dump these roms. they are not being shared with other folks, they are being sold, and they should not be touched.
another interesting thing is that if you look into the other subforums carefully you'll see that the same chefs often publish roms for more than one handset which gets me thinking two things: 1) do they really have all these handsets they publish ROMs for? 2) if so, are these roms really tested before they go online?
i don't want to be seen as a troublemaker cause it seems that these folks have made a living out of this cooked rom thing and they appear to have gotten themselves a pretty nice bunch of fans too. however, what i want with this thread is to raise a debate and the reason is that i really like this forum and i'm concerned about something that is happening and i completely disagree.
So what is your main concern?
That the chefs would like to have donations?
Or that someone takes a pile of code and alters it not according to the original programmer?
abe
big people talk about idea..
small people talk about other people..
You have a point with "selling someone else's code, slightly altered and selling it as your own", but I think the ROM cookers only like donations for the work they do tuning the original roms and most of the time adding functionality to the device. A lot of the "better known" chefs have gathered testers around them, so most of the bugs are gone before a release.
What exactly is the debate? Where are the facts/proof that this is occuring? you cant make such a statement without backing it up with some evidence.
I know some chefs actually put ALOT of time and effort into cooking a rom, testing it and informing the community about any errors found.
I've cooked a Rom or two myself and am working on a driver set for MSM devices. It takes ALOT of my time to do so and it's not only for my own benefit. Thank God there are people out there who help me with that. (you know who you are, if you're reading this)
I'm not saying that it's right to pass your ROMs off as your own, but I do know some chefs are better in making the devices perform alot better than HTC's programmers do. And if people want to reward them for their time and effort through donations, who am I to question that?
On the other hand, I find the "lack" of community more disturbing. Some people aren't sharing their knowledge for the common good, but for getting credited or donations. I believe that's the discussion here.
Just my 2 cents.
Well, I think that if they "invest" lot of their time (and they do), it is ok to have donation button. Nobody if forceing you to pay for rom. If you like it you can donate. Fair deal if you ask me!
SlakerBoi said:
guys,
the funny thing you see when you dump these roms. they are not being shared with other folks, they are being sold, and they should not be touched.
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This part I don't like. I think that they shouldn't do that, because in that case, like you said, roms are in some way being sold. That is not in the spirit of xda.
I think what he may be referring to is some members that take the ROM's from a known cook and post it with screenshots in other forums and other language forums with potential to gain off someone else work. I know of 1 instance where a Link to a ROM for only a beta test ended up with more than 500 downloads when intended for less than 10. It was found posted around in different forums.
To reward someone for there hard work in customization is up to the community. I think most people know the ROM's are not the property of the cooks, but just the cooks work in rearranging, adding, deleting, and customizing. I for one can tell you the amount of donations most cooks receive is very small and in most cases would barely cover a unlimited account for downloads. I myself think of it as I'm cooking for myself and if other people like then that's ok too.
Hi
If I use HTC mobiles is because the cooked roms...
Iosu
NeoS2007 said:
On the other hand, I find the "lack" of community more disturbing. Some people aren't sharing their knowledge for the common good, but for getting credited or donations. I believe that's the discussion here.
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For me the first thing to do in order to solve this "problem" is to prohibit any "protected" ROM. I think its not fair to take official ressources, work with tools, which can be found in this forums, and then "protect" the ROM, claiming that its your own choice.
I don't think that this is the right way to go, as other (new) cookers could learn a lot from these ROMs.
But, I don't think that this is the "problem" that SlakerBoi is talking about, is it?
As these discussions tend to come and go every now and then ...
Indeed it costs a huge amount of time in the first place. And a lot of users appreciate the work all cooks are doing overhere. Besides the cooking giving people advise. I can tell you that most cooks share their knowledge. Not always visible to everyone but most of them have contact and help each other. Furthermore, is offering your rom for dumping without any guidance the best way to share?
Everyone that asks for a package, help or guidance in any way is supported in the cooking thread. Some did publish a very nice rom after some time. In my opinion it is a far better contribution then offering an open rom without any support.
The reason I cook my own roms the way I do is for speed purpose. If you have another opinion that is fine with me. But tolerate each other on having a different approach. These kind of statements in threads only give xda a bad vibe. Open your mind, when you want or need something ask for it. It's not supposed to be a tv diner anyway.
I quote you , my friend!
Well this is how it goes for a long time. I think if you don't like it, go somehwere else.
What will you get from debating??
SlakerBoi my first question for you is "have you every cooked a ROM?" i am sure your answer will be "No" because i know how much time n effords need to be put. When i cooked my first rom it took me 4 sleepless night to build a basic beta quality rom. After such a hard work someone reward you by donating. That feeling can't be said in words SlakerBoi. So please stop raising this type of question.
One more thing most of the ROM developers buy new phone with the donations they go so it's not a issue if they release rom for many devices.
Please don't continue this decisions so that this post will go to some corner.
MOD this post hurts lot of ppl feeling so please delete it.
before the flame wars starts
i am going to close this....as these questions will cause fighting.
if you have a problem with someone...contact them....don't post like this
you know this is only going to end in fighting.
thread closed.
As a chef, and a moderator (chef came first), I'll add my thoughts.
I started into cooking when AT&T released their official WM6.1 ROM for the Kaiser. I always liked the design of AT&T ROMs, but not all of the bloat they included... most of which could not be uninstalled. I had the very "simple" goal of removing the bloat in an attempt to speed up the ROM, and increase storage space.
Once I downloaded the ROM, and extracted it using KaiserKitchen, I immediately realized that I was in over my head. I am a very good with PC and Mac computers in the professional/personal world, but I had never looked at the contents of a decompiled WM ROM. There are hundreds of folders, 10,000+ files, and no real explanation of what you're looking at... that is where XDA-Developers came in.
Within 1 week of public release, I was ready with a ROM that could be considered "extreme beta". It worked, and it was fast, but it had quite a few glitches that could not have been discovered without a public release, and a few dozen people testing the ROM. One thing in the background, that is never seen, is the number of hours spent just flashing our phones (I am NOT counting the cooking process) with numerous revisions testing all the bugs/issues reported. My Tilt was flashed no less then 1000 times in it's life, and my Fuze has been through over 500 so far.
I consider myself to be a pretty good ROM chef. But I also know that I am far from the best, and that most of my knowledge came from the very large XDA-Developers community. Some ROM chefs do not share information about the inner workings of their ROM in the ROM thread itself, but a simple email/PM will usually get you the information you seek. Look at it this way: If someone uses a ROM as released, and has no desire to modify it, then why should the thread be clogged with hundreds of questions/answers relating to how this was done, or how that was done.
My ROMs are "protected" using RaphaelKitchen, but it wasn't always this way. It has been shown that merging the RGU/DSM files into one large file speeds up the ROM because you now have several hundred less files sitting on the device. In addition, I also release my kitchen, in it's complete form, when I release a new ROM version. People are free to download the kitchen, extract it to their computer, and fully customize my ROMs. I know this is a popular route, because my Fuze and Touch Pro kitchens have been downloaded over 100 times since v4.7 of my ROM came out last month.
On to donations... I have a donation link in my signature for people who wish to appreciate the amount of work/hours poured into creating custom WM ROMs. Just as my signature says, I never require monetary compensation, but I also accept whatever people give, because it allows me to improve my work. For example, I purchased WinCE CAB Creator with some of my donations, so that I could create CAB files of items removed from the ROM. I also maintain a Rapidshare Premium account so that I never have to delete any file uploaded to XDA. Another form of donation I received was web hosting on a fast server that provided an alternative to Rapidshare.
I've said all of this before, but it's been awhile, and I cannot find the post. In closing, I don't see anything wrong with the items you pointed out. We've had issues in the past with members who used donations as a way to obtain a piece of software (ROM or otherwise), and as soon as it was brought to our attention, it was dealt with.

Forums Download Links - Non XDA ? Why ?

Hello Fellow XDA Brothers....
I am a hardcore XDA Fan and I can see many users have started posting their download link to other forums.
This is re-directing all the traffic of Xda.... as slowly XDA fans would stop logging on here and go on these sites.
We should take some steps to avoid this....
Wanted your views...
Even for normal users its really irritating to click on the link register then download ? how many clicks are we adding for one download ?
sometimes it is required so that you can download peoples work that directly conflicts in xda's rules, but they can't say anything about it since it is just a link to another site if you get the download from that site, but if you were to grab it directly off of xda then it would go against one of the rules.
or the person doesn't want their work on xda because of the attitudes that a lot of the newer users have that they are entitled to every little thing, and that is the only way you can access their work.
Simple answer, it's because it requires so much bandwidth, which costs money. Each ROM is 30-90mb, and that's only for Android, WinMo coud be bigger, I don't know. The site is kinda slow as it is (I'm not complaining, just saying) so I highly doubt large uploads will be enabled any time soon (current limit is 8mb for zip).
Humm...
Hey thanks for sharing your thoughts....
I have never posted a ROM or Apps... was nt having idea of rules
Still I could see that files were uploaded on servers like mediafire, rapidshare etc..
But now each member posts on different forums... which i did not like frankly...
So many devs come here on XDA and thats the reason why so many things are happening....
United we stand divided we fall.....
XDA Owners should think on this so everyone stays here...

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