TV-OUT for Android platform? - G1 Apps and Games

I'd like to know, since Android is an open platform, if it is possible to have TV-OUT function on the HTC Dream or G1 like in Touch Pro. I teach and I use power points and I'd like to be able to project my ppt. Is it a hardware problem or software? I bought the cable for my touch pro, but I am tired of WinMO and I am planning to make the switch.
Thanks.

It's not out of the realm of possibility for Android as an os, but the Dream hardware doesn't have (to my knowledge) any tv-out hardware.

Hmm.. the only output possible would be the mini-usb port. However, I am pretty sure this port does not support a video out.

So it is a hardware issue. Well, maybe the G2 fixes it.
Thanks..

Mm, it doesn't support video out, as of yet I mean. There is a possibility in the near future it may be able to. However, the signal would need to be converted somehow into the usual composite video most sources use. Then there is the issue that the G1's hardware puts out a video resolution of 320x480, and most TVs are HD now at 1080 x 920 resolution.

jashsu said:
It's not out of the realm of possibility for Android as an os, but the Dream hardware doesn't have (to my knowledge) any tv-out hardware.
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yes it does....
http://andblogs.net/2009/05/specs/
and i though you guys were on top of all this... the blog's been out over a week

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yes it does....
http://andblogs.net/2009/05/specs/
and i though you guys were on top of all this... the blog's been out over a week
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Very cool! I am excited now about Android. I am ready for the switch. The fact that is open makes a whole world difference and the terrific geeks of xda are having too much fun!

Hmm.. G1 + TV-OUT + Wearable HUD = Me Uber Geek. lol
Rick

incase the specs disapeared.
links removed - leagal issues....

after some google-fu about the chipset i came across the zeebo. its based on the g1 hardware, and supports video out, i guessing thru the mini-usb.

ubernicholi said:
after some google-fu about the chipset i came across the zeebo. its based on the g1 hardware, and supports video out, i guessing thru the mini-usb.
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Its actually different from the G1 hardware. The G1 has an ARM6/7 processor while the zeebo has an ARM11 (I wish we had this in the G1) processor.

ahh okay, how much different would the code be? since the g1 chipset and zeebo support tv out, would it be possible to use the zeebo sdk to figure out how the system calls would need to be executed?
edit : wikipedia list the g1 as an arm11

my bad haha, yeah arm11 processor, but the supported instruction set is arm6.

Been doing some research on this... please be gentle, just thinking out loud.
I'm fascinated by the capabilities of the G1 w/ Android. I'm also very excited about where Android may end up w/ the release of new phones and netbooks in the future and what the great minds of xda-dev will do with it all.
I've been applying some gugl-fu to the idea of routing output to tv via miniusb. The results of said "fu" have led me to some interesting discoveries.
This page has some interesting info:
Original in French: http://android-france.fr/2009/05/11...e-du-htc-dream-une-porte-ouverte-aux-hackers/
Same page via Google Translate in English: http://tinyurl.com/m3rsoe
That page also has a pic of a hacked miniusb -> VGA cable as well.
So I applied some "fu" to G1 miniusb to VGA cable and found this for the HTC Touch Pro/Pro2: http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2460
From what I understand the hardware supports TVOUT but Android either does not take advantage of the feature at this time AND/OR the hardware capability is there but crippled/disabled during manufacture AND/OR all the hardware capabilities are there but Android does not support the feature and if it did output would be practically unusable because of limitations on developers put in place by Google's dev team...
So which is it?
Is development actually an option at this time?
If an app can be created to facilitate TVOUT or a build created to take advantage of the hardware capabilities will we simply need to purchase one of these cables, or hack together a miniusb to VGA cable?
And, if all this is possible, will video output be good enough to stream vids from LukLuk or the SDCard to a TV or will bandwidth limit us to simpler tasks equivalent to powerpoint presentations and slideshows?
I'm having a lot of fun installing the new builds and adding HERO apps to JFK builds etc. and am impressed by how well the xda-dev community works together. The TVOUT function has simply piqued my interests and I felt compelled to ask.
Thanks for any answers you guys may have. - Cheers!

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Various/Zeebo/feature.asp?c=13361
hey,guys check this out
really cool picture
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is it a way r what..... pics & links.... aint tell me nothing

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android anyone? (no noobs please) HTC Wizard

this thread is to discuss android on the HTC Wizard. what do you think? how will it be ported? can it be ported?
PS. this OS can work on HTC devices (not for now) for those that think this is useless. At least its better then that iphone os
Anyone
I guess everyone's suddenly n00b?
heres some images...
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...and its pretty ugly! The software is made by Swedish software vendor TAT- quite an appropriate name!
Those are supposed Android OS images? From where??
ultraprime: I've been following the progress as closely as possible. Can't wait to see Android on my Tilt. So far, a dev on the Android Google Group has managed to dump the filesystem: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/277a73b32a02f26a?hl=en . Great, but my Tilt is not already running Linux.
I imagine it won't be long now! Do you have experience with Linux on HTC Devices? It's something I've been reading about but haven't taken the leap yet.
Charles
ultraprimeomega said:
this thread is to discuss android on the HTC Wizard. what do you think?
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You need a running linux kernel on the wizard first. The main roadblock
is the CPLD register access over i2c.
Here's a recent android presentation video:
http://tinyurl.com/2rqtw5
Nice!
Discussing android porting now is IMHO completely pointless at the moment... It does not exist yet...
Maybe this time next year...
Mirek
it may be pointless but good idea to talk about.
Project sites for porting to the x50v
http://android.cookieofdoom.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344076
Android would be great! What are the plans?
Hi,
I think this would be a good project, and in fact it might be helpful for supporting and advertising the new platform if Android could be used on already existing phones as well. I would definitely install Android on my Wizard rather than staying with Windows Mobile (even though TNT/its right provides great WM builds).
Are there any plans to port Android on existing HTC phones? I am sure that the Wizard is fast enough. Actually, from the technical side there was not much progress since then. Even in 2007 HTC and others presented phones with TI OMAP chip running on 200 MHz, which is sufficient. And the display resolution is stuck to 320x240, unfortunately. In fact, I plan to stay with my Wizard until I can get a phone that replaces my Notebook! Therefore, Android would be welcome meanwhile ...
What are your thoughts?
Eriol
Hi!
I have an HTC trinity since a year now and I've been waiting for a linux port since then.... I swear, if I was a coder I would start a project yesterday... but I'm just a sysadmin and the only code i can piss is script.
Windows mobile is an insult to such a nice device (flashing to WM6 is nearly useless.... and sometimes worst) so to me it would be great to just have a better OS on it.
To be straight, when I bought it I was certain that someone would have been able to port Linux to it so Android....would be perfect.
Of course i'll be happy to help in any way if someone sees a role for my "resources" :-D
the screenshot posted are ugly but the presentation of android that i saw on youtube are beautiful. its got all those iphone kind of transition effects and its a O.S so it would be great . In windows the emulators provide transition effects and finally reveals the traditional windows os.
News update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265&page=11
I have a working kernel + Android combo
but as of now, it's pretty much useless..can't really interact with it.
Will post a guide/ howto if anyone needs it.
kudos to the guys on #linwizard!
Maybe we should keep stuff from linwizard were?
Just asking whats the status of getting android on the wizard??
( unfortunatly im a non coder so cant realy help in setting it up but i would help in testing it)
But one thing im really intrested in is getting linux running on the wizard tht would be awesome but unfortunatly the linwizard project seems to have slowed down considerably.Anyway cheers to the developers so far and heres hoping a breakthru comes soon.
Tada!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dm-EznlpMI
Check it out guys, hopefully not long now.
kyuzo1 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dm-EznlpMI
Check it out guys, hopefully not long now.
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Nice
Now we need is the phone working (RIL driver compatible with Wizard). I've done some experiments with android's SDK, if this thing gets to work properly, that would be great! (I was working on a online backup system for your contacts, events, etc).
Excellent man , excellent. So hopefully we wont have much longer to wait.
Updates?
Gentlemen (and Ladies, if appropriate),
Can you give us an update on your progress getting Android running on the Wizard? I am eagerly looking forward to the experience and check here regularly.
Thank you for sharing your work.

Accelerometer Software

Hello all!
it's my first post, so i hope i gonna make all correct...
Im looking for a water-level software (not sure if it's the right word in english). I think with the accelerometer it would be possible to develop a tool that make possible to use the diamond as a water-level (for measuring if a surface or a wall is in level or how much degrees have a surface etc...). I've looked around and used google, but i didn't find something like that (have also searched if there is a tool like that for the iphone).
Did someone know if there exist such a software? or is there someone, who can develop this? im sure, this would be a great idea for a tool !
Something like this......
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yes right!
if I knew how I would do it, i would develope it by myself... but i have no idea how to develope such a tool
some comments...
The diamond's back is not that flat and it rocks when u tap the two sides of the screen. So it might not be a good idea to use it as a leveling meter... even if it works...
Despite the non-flat back on the Diamond, I have found that it actually sits at an even keel quite stabl-y... If you press down on one side it won't stay even, but if you just set it down, it stays quite even. You can even test/confirm that with the accelerometer game it has built-in.
Software like that exists for iphone. Its called would you beleive it iLevel
It should be possible to do.
Brilliant idea!
Oh the T-Mobile and O2 versions are flat.
I wonder if anyone else can think of other useful accelerometer based software, apart from games.
How about a G force meter similar to the ones found in Nissan Skylines and as visual displays during an F1 race!
hi all,
i've seen this accelerometer based application for nokia n95, nokmote , develpped by a french phone forum member http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x3f4o8_nokmote_tech......
hope someone can do the same for wm devices with built in accelerometer
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hi all,
i've seen this accelerometer based application for nokia n95, nokmote , develpped by a french phone forum member http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x3f4o8_nokmote_tech......
hope someone can do the same for wm devices with built in accelerometer
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Nice application...hopefully someone could port it to WM.
Better yet (more useful) would be an Inclinometer... like this one on a K850
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-CsoHxeaSE
Pir8
Bump!
This thread needs reviving, come on developers, let’s see some funky accelerometer based apps. There is a potential customer base of what 3 or 4 million?
I have not tested it, but this is a java app that uses accelerometer enabled devices as an inclinometer. If you just want to test.... (i'm a total newbee on this scene, my phone has just arrived)
thats great! how abt a force meter like those u see on F1 cars like someone mentioned before? sure would be cool to measure lateral, acceleration and braking forces...better yet...it would be cool if it can measure 1/4 mile and 0-60 times..and horsepower if u input the weight of the car? I think theres something like that called car meter for nokia phones...can some genius out there do something like that?
the always up to date download can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407223
well, just a very simple and a little bit imprecise spirit-level/water-level...
just unzip the attached zip file and put the SpiritLevel.exe on the Diamond, then execute it
edit: now with sound feedback (can be switched on/off via menu)
There is a newer version in post #18
fxxxxxx said:
well, just a very simple and a little bit imprecise spirit-level/water-level...
just unzip the attached zip file and put the SpiritLevel.exe on the Diamond, then execute it
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works, but yeah a bit imprecise ;-)
guibrenande said:
I have not tested it, but this is a java app that uses accelerometer enabled devices as an inclinometer. If you just want to test.... (i'm a total newbee on this scene, my phone has just arrived)
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not working on my Diamond:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError..
Too bad :-(
imranbashir_uk said:
Brilliant idea!
....
How about a G force meter similar to the ones found in Nissan Skylines and as visual displays during an F1 race!
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I really like the idea of this being combined with GPS tracking, I could then see where I am accelerating/braking the hardest, which roads and corners etc. Could be VERY usefull on a track day!
Now, if only I could link it to the data in my onboard computers ......
(thats almost worth learning to programing WM for)
the always up to date download can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407223
a little bit better performance for the spirit level, when sound is enabled.
so now it s fun enough to play with it. can maybe also used to see numerical how much the g-sensor should be calibrated.
edit: bow there is an option in the menu with which s short vibration can enabled, when the x or y axis is at 0 °
Thanks fxxxxxx!
Great tool.
Cheers!
and any solution for calibrate the device , using this way? i've read many thread about g-sensor calibrating problem. i've this problem . i've made a test with a real inclinometer and i can see 3° in horizontal axi and 11° in vertical axis. but it's not a software issue because it's always the same values. for me the calibrating is bad for my diamond.
(and my english to, sorry ^^)

[REQ] Port BEAT MAKER (iPhone App)

ATTN: PORTING PROS!!!
Can anyone port this amazing iPhone app for the Diamond/Touch Pro??
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Here's a video demo of how it works. This something I would GLADLY pay for!! ​
+1 looks good
I was looking for such an app!!
What a coincidence lol... If im right you can sample sounds yourself aswell right?
SICK!
I was looking for such an app!!
What a coincidence lol... If im right you can sample sounds yourself aswell right?
SICK!
komani86 said:
I was looking for such an app!!
What a coincidence lol... If im right you can sample sounds yourself aswell right?
SICK!
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Yeah, you can chop, sample, mix, effects, and just about anything else you can do with a full sized drum machine. I know this is an extremely complex app, so chances are, we're SOL. but here's to wishful thinkin!!!
Yes this could be good, plug your TP into a mixer, brings a whole new capability to the device.
I also think though, that to port such an app would be an enormous task.
+1 on wishful thinking
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I think it's safe to say we can go ahead & close this thread. It's not getting too much interest, so i'm assuming it's either damn near impossible to port, or none of the dev's are really willing to give it a shot. Hopefully someone will drop a similar program from WM.
can somebody please port this i need this in my life.
People People...Look
You people have to Do your homework there is ton's on ppc Recording Studio Apps a big one is Called phoenix Studios /you have pocket music Studios/you have pocket jamz/ So go look them up
nucentury08 said:
You people have to Do your homework there is ton's on ppc Recording Studio Apps a big one is Called phoenix Studios /you have pocket music Studios/you have pocket jamz/ So go look them up
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no my friend... while these are all nice apps, they are NOT beat maker. None of the afore mentioned apps have a full functioning drum machine built into it. Not to mention, NONE of the apps allow for 3rd party plug-ins like Pro-Tools export, rewire, t-racks, etc. Beat Maker is the real deal. I'm seriously debating buying a iTouch SIMPLY for this app!!
Maybe you should contact the maker of the App and see if he would port it himself. Maybe he's already making a WM version to sell on the Windows Marketplace.
For the record, I would also be willing to pay to get a port of this app.
herbn said:
Maybe you should contact the maker of the App and see if he would port it himself. Maybe he's already making a WM version to sell on the Windows Marketplace.
For the record, I would also be willing to pay to get a port of this app.
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damn, why on EARTH didn't i think of this myself?! i might have to look into this.
i have this app "phoenix Studios" and i love it but its not vga and i stop using it because i didnt have enought memory to keep it going on my old ppc6700.
i almost got an iphone just to get that drum machine apps.
Wouldn't the fact that Raphaels do not have a capacitive touchscreen really hinder this Apps original functionality/awesomeness?
Our touch screens are resistive, and are thus incapable of multitouch like an iphone or g1 for example. (I have seen a demo of multitouch on a supposedly resistive screen around on the nets, but never seen a resistive device with multitouch capabilities released) http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/ here's the vid
Just a thought, hope your dreams aren't too dashed.
no need to multitap and such.. we just gotta contact the maker of beatmaker and see if hes brewing a version for WM6.1 platforms!
so is this thing ported yet?
Omniano the Band, is the closest thing to date. The other would be Little Snazzy Drummer, which has a free Lite version as well as a paid version. Neither of these are quite as complex as the app. you mentioned, though I find them both very usable and entertaining.

bootdroid - Let's end it here shall we

When I was looking for x86 stuff today, I came across this "project" called bootdroid that is supposedly a guy coming along in his port of iOS to Android (blog of updates is here: http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/ code page here: http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/).
It amazes me how people think that, with all the issues we have with hardware acceleration, audio, and camera drivers with every OS update that SWITCHING to a completely different system wouldn't be out of the question.
Yes, for people still questioning, it IS fake. You're NEVER going to be able to run iOS natively on an Android device period. Likewise, you can barely get Android to recognize the iOS hardware.
A few things to note:
1) He's spamming it all over the place for SEO reasons,
2) The iPhone's/iPads interface images are static. They don't just "fit" into any given screen size, a reason why we can't have DPI changers like Android has. You'd have to totally recode the system to do what he's trying to make you THINK he's doing. He says he's using the iPad version... Have you ever tried using iPad apps on the iPhone? Well, it shows you only 4/100th of the screen. Yes, I have tried, and so have a few others.
3) He used old web app sample code that comes with Xcode. It's not even iOS5:
iOS4:
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iOS 5:
His:
Specifically, you can tell by the edges. His Push Notifications are also thick:
So move along now, nothing to see here.
Ga niet zomaar haten...
Seriously he is already been working on this project since ios 4 was still the latest and greatest. I don't know if you are an iPhone user or on the Android side but this is real. He has been providing very true ans interesting topics on his blogspot and I would like to see your face when an alpha build comes out.
People stop hating on this project please. Maybe this is fake but then again why would he been keeping the site alive for that long ? Do you think that someone that is wanting to say brick our devices is going to say don't promote this to much because the maker of thz port could be sued by Apple for the copyright things.
This is probably the last thing that Apple is waiting on, people using their (good and smooth with great exclusive apps) software on hardware that is better and faster and that fill better the needs of certain people. ( I don't like the iPhone's sound quality, display size, aspect ratio, glass that breaks rapidly...).
I have been an iPhone user since they came out. I also have Android devices. There are pros and cons with both.
I've managed to snag the GUI images that are available with the iOS 5 firmware and optimized it for the Android device I'm working with. I successfully built a Test App (GUI) in Xcode and added it as a system application to the iOS firmware currently running on my Android device.
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Again... That is NOT iOS5. I know how it looks like, and I know how Xcode looks and works.
Another thing, since iOS is basically OS X, what does this mean for driver support? There isn't a driver for any internal Android hardware that also works in OS X.
Lastly, just because it's better hardware doesn't mean the software will work better/faster on it. Being that Androids are mostly made out of plastic will most likely result in heating issues. The new iPad can hardly handle it.

			
				
Hunch
Well I noticed on the Bootdroid blog, that someone has released code for Bootdroid.
HTML:
https://github.com/Peter42/BootDroid
However, what we do not know is what the files actually do. I have tested it myself and... well... they do nothing that I can actually tell apart from run an app, which itself, does nothing? :S
However both the software and the app seems to be virus free, according to ESET and Lookout.
Is there any developers wishing to strip down these files, and have a little look inside to see what they do?
Thanks,
TyphoonScotland
The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.
LordManhattan said:
The only big file there is U2WIN.exe which is 380MB. I won't download it and try it myself, so i don't know what that is or does.
But i find it strange that there's no videos of this. I would think that a lot of people would try this and post some videos on YouTube. But nope, no videos whatsoever.
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i will download it tonite to see whuz that
therealphami said:
i will download it tonite to see whuz that
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Did you try it out?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA
If I could figure out how to install it, I wouldn't mind trying!
iOS5 on Archos 70 would be awesome! =)
I thnk its real
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...
Soooo.
xjarylx said:
It looks so promising... but then in his blog he said that this Krazy did it... mebbe itss real and i hope so cos iap crackee is onlly for iOS. And btw how do you even install it? So many files...
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Did you find out? Theres no files on his google source anymore... I just revived a dead thread sorry

Root for DJI, drones and remotes running android for flight software

Just a question.... Is there any development in the drone industry, especially within the Chinese drone manufacturer DJI where the main focus is looking into the code to see what types of data is being collected and sent to the Chinese Government? ...
Then or also has there been any attempts to root the drones and remotes so that Americans can controls where that data may be sent. Like instead of using DJI.s servers you can send data to your desktops home network through 5g. via different firmware and software that's customisable....
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Are you using your own phone and the DJI Fly app or like the Mini 3 Pro with the RC (builtin screen).
If you had the RC you could (probably?) just never enable WiFi.
Nah, I don't own one yet. I'm torn between the Mini SE and the Mini 3 Pro and I don't buy anything!
I have a Mavic 2 pro the controller doesn't have a built in screen so i fly with Dji's fly more app.
correct me if I'm wrong, I herd that the drone its self uses a custom version of android for its on bord flight controller. I was wondering if anyone has thought about rooting the flight controller?
Smotpokera said:
I was wondering if anyone has thought about rooting the flight controller?
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I'm not sure what benefit rooting the drone would be, but I'm always interested in analyzing things.
You'd think that they'd be enough semi-destroyed drones around to be able to do a teardown.
I can see the benefit of rooting the builtin hand controllers.
Renate said:
I'm not sure what benefit rooting the drone would be, but I'm always interested in analyzing things.
You'd think that they'd be enough semi-destroyed drones around to be able to do a teardown.
I can see the benefit of rooting the builtin hand controllers.
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Well I blew $1,250 on a DJI mavic Zoom about a year-and-a-half ago and it has magnificent flight characteristics and it's a real pleasure to fly. Unfortunately, I live within two blocks of a no-fly zone and I never get a chance to fly it cuz I have to drive somewhere to fly it. If you do an extensive Google search on the Mavic and no fly zones you'll come across many links to companies that specialize in hacking software for DJI drones. I haven't used any of them so I can't recommend one, but you can certainly find out for yourself. Good luck and report back to us with your findings if you so desire.
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Smotpokera​
I have the DJI RC Pro Enterprise. The hardware is identical to the standard RC Pro. For some reason, DJI has made this controller unusable with anything other than the Mavic 3 Enterprise. Here's DJIs letter to the FCC confirming the hardware is the same
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How can I force this controller to be compatible with other drones? I've gained ADB access and can install apks along with logcat viewing and everything else. However, if you try to install the DJI Fly app it's blocked by DJI, even through ADB. Any help would be awesome!
JohnNokomisClark said:
I have the DJI RC Pro Enterprise. The hardware is identical to the standard RC Pro. For some reason, DJI has made this controller unusable with anything other than the Mavic 3 Enterprise. Here's DJIs letter to the FCC confirming the hardware is the same View attachment 5790587How can I force this controller to be compatible with other drones? I've gained ADB access and can install apks along with logcat viewing and everything else. However, if you try to install the DJI Fly app it's blocked by DJI, even through ADB. Any help would be awesome!
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how did you manage to do that mate?

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