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Is there any tmobile customer who actually likes this new market layout? Tmobile has replaced the "downloads" button with a "tmobile recommended apps" button. Not only is that self-righteous and gay, but all the apps there seem completely random besides the tmobile apps. Wtf.
Is there a way to push a non-tmobile version of market? Im not sure, but i dont think this is the new version 1.71. Mine still shows as 1.66. If anyone has 1.71 please post it here. Id rather have an updated market app than this gay ass layout change. Thanks.

I have v1.66 as well, and no I do not like the market.
I have never liked the market.
Category layouts are dumb.
People search the market in 3 ways.
They either know exactly what they want... Search Program Name
They know the type of thing they want... Search "program does this.."
Or they go window shopping. Scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll...etc
The F*ing scrolling is driving me crazy! By scrolling through a huge list, I never remember where I was, and I have to constantly start over.
I want to be able to see what apps were uploaded each day. That way I can search a given day and know that there are no apps that I like for that time period.
Hmm what did the Dev's throw out yesterday....Oh cool! aw crap. Neat!
I stopped looking at their "recommendations" a long time ago.
I don't care what they think I might want. I sure as hell don't want My Account which has been listed as a #1 app since it came out.
For more experienced users..The F*ing program doesn't do anything that logging into your account, or using one of 20 other programs doesn't already do. Like I need ANOTHER battery monitor!
I just found a market app that might be better. Called My Market by Chris Hager- allows multiple filters, recommendations based on users comments, and you can bookmark items. Let you know how it goes.

OK this is one of those programs that you find once in a while that are the "OMG Why isn't this standard." type of thing.
It does have a little problem staying connected to the market server when I am using it, but....
I can scroll through all the apps in the market, bookmarking any apps that look interesting, and "Removing" ones that are not. (removing just hides them in a folder called "Removed")
I can mark an app as "recommended", not star'd like the market, but just a flag saying that I liked the program.
I can also email the market link for an app to someone from inside the program.
You do have to open the market to DL though which is kinda annoying, but the fact I can sort through stuff makes it totally worth it.

Yea i gotta say mymarket is pretty cool. Only thing that bugs me is that it looks like the old market from 1.1. Thanks for the suggestion.
So 1.71 is the market from 2.0?

I also noticed that apps I have installed originally from the market and later uninstalled due to a wipe or whatever. Then reinstalled from SdCard are now showing up as updates available. Would of been ok, however I have two apps I simply do not want to update and its annoying the heck out of me because I now have to look at them everytime I goto the market.
How did this Market update happen? I don't remember updating it or was it forced or a forced layout change or something?

Looks like you can go into Settings > Manage Applications > Market
Uninstall Market upgrade. Of course how long before that comes back.

I think this is the market you guys are talking about.
http://www.mymarket.cc/

I noticed in the /data/data/ folder there is two listings for the market. One being an upgrade and one being the regular.

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Looks like you can go into Settings > Manage Applications > Market
Uninstall Market upgrade. Of course how long before that comes back.
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Apparently it takes less than a day to come back. I uninstalled the T-market yesterday morning before work and it was back before the end of my work day. This kind of sucks. All their "update" did was make me have to use the physical menu button to check my downloads for updates. More time wasted and more wear on my menu button. Thanks T-Mobile.

I went into /system/apps and deleted the vending updater program. Also uninstalled the "update" to the market. Not having any trouble now. Was having a ton of trouble with stuff not install after downloading. The update hasn't come back yet either, so so far so good.

After my uninstall I haven't seen it come back as of yet.

Yeah the market app is kinda screwy lately. Literally last night before I went to sleep I was using it to download something.
I wake up today in the morning and it's completely gone I have never had that happen before.
Lets see if it comes back on its own through out the day hehe.
Honestly I really hope it's my rom doing something screwy though cause I would hate knowing that they can take off an app off my phone when ever they want just like that. WTF you know.

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After my uninstall I haven't seen it come back as of yet.
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How did you uninstall the update? I just went to settings>applications>manage applications>Market--uninstall updates. I may try Gilliland12's method but I don't know what else that method may effect.
sxfx:
Many people seem to be having problems with the market on Cyanogen's latest. I always wipe and do a full install and I don't use a2sd, compcache or swap and I've had few to no problems with his ROM's (just some random reboots on one of the older versions).

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How did you uninstall the update? I just went to settings>applications>manage applications>Market--uninstall updates. I may try Gilliland12's method but I don't know what else that method may effect.
sxfx:
Many people seem to be having problems with the market on Cyanogen's latest. I always wipe and do a full install and I don't use a2sd, compcache or swap and I've had few to no problems with his ROM's (just some random reboots on one of the older versions).
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Yeah Iv been using Cyan for as long as I can remember. I do use a2sd, and some swap nothing major.
But I don't seem to have 99% of the problems everyone else is having heh.
Just a glitch here or there but nothing I cant really figure out.
This market thing really just happened recently when tmo started screwing with it. I guess we will see what happens in the next few days .
Supposedly there is a really nice updated coming from Cyan sometime soon. ..

browser data from 3-40mb for no reason?

So I had to clear all my data which included bookmarks? My browser usually sucks phantom memory but never so much that I'm stuck with the low memory notification. Isn't this a known issue? What's the damn deal I'm getting sick of setting up my STOCK browser every week because the software's broken. And yes I ran a search on google but I'm on my phone so I can't search xda. I think I started a similar thread already but I can't find it and nobody responded then anyway.

Thats nothing, I had mine sucking about 120MB of my ROM out. Cleaned it out, but decided to just do a wipe, and have yet to get it again.

Browser cache is not "no reason".

i would like this too. the most i ever got it to was 60mb. i was like

If yet're running froyo, its because they now cache your open tabs much more aggressively now. Just close your open tabs, kill the browser (unless you want them open), and your space will return to normal.

RogerPodacter said:
If yet're running froyo, its because they now cache your open tabs much more aggressively now. Just close your open tabs, kill the browser (unless you want them open), and your space will return to normal.
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Awesome thanks. Ill do that from now on

RogerPodacter said:
If yet're running froyo, its because they now cache your open tabs much more aggressively now. Just close your open tabs, kill the browser (unless you want them open), and your space will return to normal.
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I tried this to no avail. I deleted the data and everything, a couple weeks later it has happened again. Pretty sweet

RogerPodacter said:
If yet're running froyo, its because they now cache your open tabs much more aggressively now. Just close your open tabs, kill the browser (unless you want them open), and your space will return to normal.
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I finally tried this it worked great thanks

Serious bug in JI6 browser? Analysis

The browser in JI6 feels extremely laggy compared to the browser in previous firmwares. Scrolling is sometimes unusually choppy and going to the bookmarks page often takes a second. You might even see your home screen reload after browsing some heavy pages and then pressing the home button.
I started wondering if there was a memory leak in the browser, so I navigated to some pages that seem really laggy in the JI6 browser and checked the task manager. Sure enough, the browser is using 90-100MB of RAM at times and forcing other apps out of memory. If you want to try it for yourself, browse pocketnow.com (really laggy), engadget, or android central for a minute and then open up the task manager and take a look.
In an effort to figure out what was causing this, I have disabled plug-ins, uninstalled Flash 10.1, cleared caches, disabled javascript, and changed several other settings. While slightly less laggy, none of that has fixed the problem.
To make matters worse, I just received a notification warning me that database storage is low. I started browsing around and found a ~90MB file in /dbdata/databases/com.android.browser/app_thumbnails/ that comes back very quickly after I delete it. Not sure if that's the file causing the database storage to fill up or not, but it seems suspicious.
Also worth noting is that when pressing the back button in the browser it loads the previous pages instantly, almost like it keeps previous pages in memory. It wasn't like that in the browser from older firmwares. Wondering if that's what's causing the insane memory usage and lag.
Update
Looks like this is a known (by the community at least) bug that's also present in recent Froyo leaks for the i9000.
It seems to be a system level bug as it affects some other browsers like Dolphin as well.

I've noticed the same thing, but I kind of expect some aspects of the ROM to have debugging and/or logging turned on seeing as this is a leaked build.
Give it time and I'm sure someone will get this sorted out.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Asking the i9000 guys if their browser has stupid high memory usage in Froyo as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798299

BAD news. Seems this is a bug affecting i9000 Froyo builds as well...
clubtech said:
I can confirm that the browser in all the recent 2.2 leaks has some serious random memory issues causing close of almost all background apps and becoming very laggy and choppy.
Seems like either a serious memory leak or some other memory management issues.
This is not related to flash 10.1 at all as when i disable flash this still happens.
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Would using a third party browser be any different? Gonna try out Dolphin or Skyfire in a bit once I get cog2.2 running.

So I guess the recently leaked (thanks to DesignGears and source) build is no newer than the previously leaked i9000 builds. Can only hope Samsung clears this up before official release.

olieebur said:
Would using a third party browser be any different? Gonna try out Dolphin or Skyfire in a bit once I get cog2.2 running.
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Dolphin has the same problem so the bug must be in memory management or some kind of framework that both browsers use. Haven't tried Skyfire.

I am using Dolphin Browser HD and it does not seem to clear the memory issues.
Uses 145!! MB on the full pocketnow.com site before eventually FC'ing.
That's pretty rediculous.

I also ran into an issue where a pop up would say "No Internet Connection" and would ask me if I want to retry or ignore it, but if i didn't choose any option, the page would still load. Very annoying. This only happened to me while I was on 3G. Didn't try on wifi though. Anyone else run into this problem?

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I also ran into an issue where a pop up would say "No Internet Connection" and would ask me if I want to retry or ignore it, but if i didn't choose any option, the page would still load. Very annoying. This only happened to me while I was on 3G. Didn't try on wifi though. Anyone else run into this problem?
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Yes, and it's very annoying. Somewhat unpredictable too. That and my cell data has been cutting out a lot for no reason, regardless of signal strength.
As far as I can tell, all the standard at&t radios suck. Can't wait to get a HSUPA radio & kernel running again. Faster speeds, and for me, better reception. Almost makes me want to go back to 2.1.

OOPS! I tried replacing libwebcore.so with the one from the G2 in an attempt to get to the bottom of this. Can you say boot loop? LOL, time to reflash and try something else. Don't worry, I have a better idea this time.

I noticed this as well and mentioned it in DG's thread. I noticed that the image quality is much higher than on 2.1 and the browser becomes especially choppy on pages with a lot of images on them. Definitely not flash-related.

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[HOW TO] Fix browser lag in JI6 Froyo

[Q] Market Notifications

Do Market notifications work for anyone? Or is it a known Android issue? Never worked for me and I'm on wifi/cell towers about 50/50.
Does it work in 2.3? I've never seen it work on 2.1 or 2.2. I've only seen it pop up in the notification area when manually checking/downloading an update. (thanks Google! -eye roll-)

Rarely it will pop up for me when I open the market and don't go to my apps. But almost every time its popped up for me was because I went to my apps.
I was really hoping Androids implementation of this would be better than iOS. Especially when froyo let you update all or enable auto update. In reality I think iOS is better (in this one tiny area), because if you open the app store you instantly see updates are available. But in android if you don't go to my apps sometimes it will take several minutes of browsing the market before you are notified.
Sent from my Captivate running GR-12

I rarely get any Market notifications unless I'm at My Apps in the Market app and let it sit there for a while. It'd be pretty nice if I got notified to update my apps before I go into the Market though, I agree.

always have worked for me whenever i open the Market

Xtracter said:
always have worked for me whenever i open the Market
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Thats the thing....they way the market was sold....so to speak....is that you would get a notification, whenever any app you have installed has an update. Seems most everyone gets that notification after they manually check. Thats what happens with me.

Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.

Demonic240 said:
Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.
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That can't be it because Android judges on it's own what should be shut down based on the memory it needs I think. In other words, I never closed it.
These guys found a way to kick start it a while back, but I can't find the files to do the same for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635050

Demonic240 said:
Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.
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That can't be it because Android judges on it's own what should be shut down based on the memory it needs I think. In other words, I never closed it.
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I think Demonic240's referring to the difference between exiting any app (i.e. Market) using the back button until reaching Home versus 1 clicking away to home or another app. The difference is measurable in Task Manager. Method two: Market still runs. Method one: Market closed.

pc103 said:
I think Demonic240's referring to the difference between exiting any app (i.e. Market) using the back button until reaching Home versus 1 clicking away to home or another app. The difference is measurable in Task Manager. Method two: Market still runs. Method one: Market closed.
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Gotcha. Regardless, I don't see any point in having update Notifications if it requires you to keep the Market app running constantly. I assumed Google had it connected to one of the basic Android services that always run in the background.
In the link in my last post, they talk about a value in a settings.db that triggers a CheckinService. Stuff that I can't find on our phones.

It's an interesting question. I got notifications regularly in 2.1 and can't recall when I got one in 2.2. I kept background data enabled under both.
Checking Manage Applications, Market Updater 1.0 only shows up when viewing All, and appears to be a dead service even when Market is running. I never checked it under 2.1 because it appeared to work.

Mine has never worked...only when I open the market does it decide to tell me I have a update!

Do you mean popup in notification bar or is there actually a popup that comes up. I only see notification never saw a popup.

mansared said:
Do you mean popup in notification bar or is there actually a popup that comes up. I only see notification never saw a popup.
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Only in notification bar is what's expected. And it doesn't happen.

Just got Note - problem with browser tabs

So I just got the Note recently and so far I'm liking it (came from Iphone 4).... BUT, 1 thing that has GOT TO CHANGE!!! Is..... when I open stock browser and open tabs, if I close the browser and then go back to it my tabs are all gone!!! And it just shows home page...
Has anyone figured this out?? I haven't installed any task manager stuff. I need to get this fixed though. Is there a fix for this?
I've tried searching this forum and google but don't see much info. Most of the stuff I see says to uninstall task killers, but I didn't install anything just stock task manager for the Note.
I've tried different browsers also but none of them really seem to keep the tabs open, it is very annoying
Any ideas?

bump for friday!!!

This is more of a workaround.
Instead of exiting the browser with the back button, press the home button. When you go back to the browser (by long pressing the home button to access the running tasks) the tabs should still be there.
Probably best to have put this in the Q&A section

Thanks for the reply!! But this is what I'm doing... even that doesn't work. In fact, I don't use the back button too much, I mostly use the home button...
There is no fix for this? Can someone tell me the cause of it? Is it something to do with a Samsung task manager? Is there a new task manager I can install or seomthing I can tweak in the OS? Perhaps seomething in the browser config or task manager config?

I don't have this problem... especially with Dolphin Browser. Those bloody tabs persist after reboots. It is a pain in the arse to get rid of them, you have to kill them manually.

Any body else know a fix??
Maybe I'll try firefox see how that works. I did d/l dolphin but haven't tried yet

You can install ZDbox, it is an app that was developed by an Xda member. It has a task killer incorporated within the app where you can put the browser in the protected apps by long pressing and adding it. After you do this, the app will not be closed if you kill all other apps.
Let me know if it resolves the issue. (it is available for free in the market)

Why are you using stock browser anyway . It's crap . I never managed to download anything with it . And after " download " it can't parse it . Use OPERA MOBILE . ( NOT mini ) . You'll thank me later

HasC said:
You can install ZDbox, it is an app that was developed by an Xda member. It has a task killer incorporated within the app where you can put the browser in the protected apps by long pressing and adding it. After you do this, the app will not be closed if you kill all other apps.
Let me know if it resolves the issue. (it is available for free in the market)
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Ok I tried ZDbox, however the browser doesnt even show up in the process list of ZDbox lol... It shows up in my task manager, but not in ZDbox.
I will just use a different browser... I see so many browsers, which is best? How does Opera compare with Firefox? I kinda like Maxthon also, but it isn't saving my tabs either

Download Opera. It's the fastest browser, as it uses hardware acceleration.

Its not witht stock browser. If you are opening too many apps and then press Home key, the Android system will put the browser to sleep but it keeps it in memory. If you launch another app at this point which asks for more RAM than there is available, Android will start exiting the apps that are residing in the memory. When that happens, the browser could also be force closed by the system. Dunno how to fix that since I am not a dev.
If you use other browsers, you wont have the GPU acceleration and hence smoothness, in my opinion.
Just my 2 cents.
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nobnut said:
I don't have this problem... especially with Dolphin Browser. Those bloody tabs persist after reboots. It is a pain in the arse to get rid of them, you have to kill them manually.
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The two of you should talk: his tabs don't stay and yours are hurting your ass

So how is everyone with the Note fixing or getting around this? I'm trying Opera now...

Well, after using the Opera browser... i gotta say I like it. EXCEPT it doesn't remember my tabs either!! It seems like none of the browsers are working right with tabs... unless i'm doing soemething wrong? Is there any way to remember tabs in opera mobile?

When I press the back button on Dolphin it ask if I want to close the browser or minimize it.

What would be nice is.... like Safari on iphone... if you kill it, it still opens up with all your tabs... or a desktop firefox, it always allows you to restore your previous session/tabs...
I HAVE to keep tabs open, instead of re-opening 5 pages/tabs evertime the browser just feels like forgetting them

Anybody know about the great Note browser mystery??

How long after you press home are you checking, if you leave it in sleep mode for some time, android will kill the high power consuming processes and that is why your tabs are not getting stored...
I think what you want is a browser which remembers your previous tabs and reload all of them whenever you open a browser.. i dont think stock or dolphin or opera has such an option, did you try the mobile version of firefox.. maybe it remebers tabs...
And to those people this is not about multitasking... it is just that he wants the browser to remember his tabs so that it can reload itself everytime a new instance opens...

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How long after you press home are you checking, if you leave it in sleep mode for some time, android will kill the high power consuming processes and that is why your tabs are not getting stored...
I think what you want is a browser which remembers your previous tabs and reload all of them whenever you open a browser.. i dont think stock or dolphin or opera has such an option, did you try the mobile version of firefox.. maybe it remebers tabs...
And to those people this is not about multitasking... it is just that he wants the browser to remember his tabs so that it can reload itself everytime a new instance opens...
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YES!! thank you..thats exactly right! i've tried so many browsers so far and have yet to find one that does!! It seems so weird to me that none of these browsers have a session restore or tab restore option. let me try firefox... i haven't really tried it yet. BUT i just read firefox for andoird DOES have hardware acceleration... I'M ON IT! will report back

After using FF for a bit...I can report it is the same as other browsers There is no session restore and it closes my tabs also. When I launch it, it shows me my "previously closed tabs" but it won't let me restore them all......I have to click on each one to restore
So this is still a aproblem