Giving Up Smoking - Off-topic

Hi Guys,
Just wondered how many of you have tried giving up smoking and what methods you may have used? (whether succesful or not)
I am currently using an electronic cigarette (contains non of the carinogenics) and have managed to have no real ciggy's in 7 days. - and also have no disire to have one!
I have dropped the cartridges down to the medium nicotine from High and am still doing well! after a few weeks I will move to the Low and no Nicotine cartidges.
this is the most positive try I have had at cesation to date
Cheers
Rosebud

My new girlfriend told me she was not going to kiss me if I didnt stop chewing. seems pretty effective to me!

Hi Mike, Good to know I'm not the only person trying this route!
I am looking at ecigs as a short term solution, but I am too finding myself using it more than I would normally smoke!
I am going to continue reducing my intake and make my way down to the zero nic carts planned for a couple of months time, I figure that in the short term, even tho still not great for me the e-cigs are a better alternative, for a start they contain over 3000 less chemicals
I am already seeing some benefits, I am more awake, I have more colour in my face??!, I have the obvious benefits too, (Dont smell, etc etc...)
the first few days were hard, and I knew I was missing something else other than the nicotine, but I am now used to them
My long term plan is not to smoke at all, Me and the wife are looking at having another expensive habit ( A baby) in the next year or so, and we dont want to be smoking parents, I for one had smoking parents and feel this is probbably a part of why I smoke (and really enjoy it too )

I´m having a hard time with cigarretes also
Wanted to quit but no success till now...
Never heard of e-ciggies, I´ll find out more of them

orb3000 said:
I´m having a hard time with cigarretes also
Wanted to quit but no success till now...
Never heard of e-ciggies, I´ll find out more of them
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Orb, there is a lot of info online - google e-cigarette-forum
I found the site has a lot of info.
I know it has only been 1 week, but I would certainly recomend them (I have never gone this long with gum, patches, lozenges etc)
Cheers
Steve

me neither...
I cant leave that thing...
You know when I saw somebody that get a cig starts to smoke even in the tv i feel that i want to smoke too. I can manage to avoid do it in that case.
After the meal... sometimes when I awake at the morning, I smoke.
When its cold...
When i have nothing to do or im just walking on the streets i need a cig.
or when i saw any of my family smoks just fro the meaning of smoke or a nice spoken... i need to smoke.
and the last one... when i need to read a lot of forums here i need a cigarrete
My boss on my job told me one day long ago... i had that vicious thing on my life... but when my first child borns i leave it, it just need to have 2 big balls and hold it tight to void smoke again. thats all you need, guts to leave it.
Im smoking right now BTW

rosebud said:
Orb, there is a lot of info online - google e-cigarette-forum
I found the site has a lot of info.
I know it has only been 1 week, but I would certainly recomend them (I have never gone this long with gum, patches, lozenges etc)
Cheers
Steve
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Thanks mate, in fact already done the search, just trying to find out if it´s cheaper that they send it home or better wait 1 month that I´m travelling to USA...
Cheers,
p.d. Paisa ya no fumes!

well i might not be very experienced with cigs as most of you guys may be......
but still i managed to quit
i was 17 when i started smoking regularly
it went on increasing for a year or so
all it took to stop me is my girlfriend and sis who always shouted at me when i used to smoke
and a few nicotine gums for a month or so
i suggest you guys to go for nicotine gums rather thn e cigs they are a lot safer and they really help
(havent smoked a cig for about 3 months now and even stopped using nicotine gums)

smoked 14 years, and dropped it now... just dropped, no need e-cigs, gums and etc.. just stop smoking it easy. And now i feel myself maany better.

sheennick123456 said:
well i might not be very experienced with cigs as most of you guys may be......
but still i managed to quit
i was 17 when i started smoking regularly
it went on increasing for a year or so
all it took to stop me is my girlfriend and sis who always shouted at me when i used to smoke
and a few nicotine gums for a month or so
i suggest you guys to go for nicotine gums rather thn e cigs they are a lot safer and they really help
(havent smoked a cig for about 3 months now and even stopped using nicotine gums)
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Unfortunately already tried gum, and lozenges, and inhilator, and patches, and cold turkey, as you can tell from the creation of this thread none of these worked for me.
I believe there is no "one size fits all" solution to quitting smoking.
Cheers
Steve

rosebud said:
Unfortunately already tried gum, and lozenges, and inhilator, and patches, and cold turkey, as you can tell from the creation of this thread none of these worked for me.
I believe there is no "one size fits all" solution to quitting smoking.
Cheers
Steve
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mayeb then try to have someone to shout on you everytime you smoke(like sis ,gf,mom,wife)
girls are good at this
they will surely help you quit
it might be irritating but atleast will make you think twice before you smoke

hell yeah!
sad but true

9 years & 3 months ago my wife told me she was pregnant with our first child.
I stubbed out the ciggy I'd just lit, crushed the almost full pack I had, and haven't touched a ciggy since. All you need is sufficient incentive and willpower. eCigs, patches, gum, they can help with the symptoms of withdrawal, but they ALSO drag out the process.
Cold turkey lasts about 2 weeks tops. It's not nice; you'll be irritable and difficult to live with, but it worked great for me.
After about 2 weeks of not smoking, you'll discover some things.
* Smell. You sense of smell is seriously affected by smoking. Once your system is clear of it, you'll discover a world of wonderful aromas.
* Taste. Like smell, your sense of taste is also seriously affected by smoking. You'll find it hard to believe just how good food can taste now it's working properly again.
* Virility. You'll be amazed at some of the other things that smoking actually buggers up.
WARNING: Do not substitute snacking for smoking! There's a damn good reason for my nickname!

FloatingFatMan said:
9 years & 3 months ago my wife told me she was pregnant with our first child.
I stubbed out the ciggy I'd just lit, crushed the almost full pack I had, and haven't touched a ciggy since. All you need is sufficient incentive and willpower. eCigs, patches, gum, they can help with the symptoms of withdrawal, but they ALSO drag out the process.
Cold turkey lasts about 2 weeks tops. It's not nice; you'll be irritable and difficult to live with, but it worked great for me.
After about 2 weeks of not smoking, you'll discover some things.
* Smell. You sense of smell is seriously affected by smoking. Once your system is clear of it, you'll discover a world of wonderful aromas.
* Taste. Like smell, your sense of taste is also seriously affected by smoking. You'll find it hard to believe just how good food can taste now it's working properly again.
* Virility. You'll be amazed at some of the other things that smoking actually buggers up.
WARNING: Do not substitute snacking for smoking! There's a damn good reason for my nickname!
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I quit 5 years ago, I even have constant nightmares about smoking again. The gum, patchs, etc help to smooth over the initial shock of quitting, but you really really really have to want to quit. You have to hate cigarettes and truely not want to smoke them.
I found myself bargaining with myself.. "oh one now and never again" or " one now and then when I'm older I will go back to smoking".. The answer had to be NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER AGAIN..
Good luck folks, set yourself free

i quit smoking 3 years ago and since then never looked back and felt a need. Its quite easy to quit, but you have to have will power and determination. And mind it when you feel that you want to quit, never run for a last drag, then just quit.

I quit several years ago. Tried first not smoking at all, but two weeks later I was in hell. Then I tried gradually with simple goals like today I'll only do 5, then today I'll just do one, and so on. Until it was like today I won't smoke but I'll have 2 tomorrow. Currently I don't smoke, but I can have 1 cigarette socially from time to time, though I don't really enjoy it that much anymore (because of the smell).

I've just quit cold turkey 59 days ago. The first 4 were critical. After that, all went well. It's just a matter of will. Take it as a test: could you or could you not?

I had been smoking for 25 years, ever since I was 13, and tried everything. And I do mean everything, short of resting on my head, upside down for 30 days. Have tried the gum, the patches, etc. etc.
The solution that I found that works for me, but maybe not for many is Chantix. I was taken a little aback by the price of it. It was $120 dollars for a months prescription. (I used it for 4 months and am completely cigarette free for almost a year now.) And I am a Pharmacy Technician and work at a chain pharmacy!! The problem is, many insurances just does not cover it yet. But when you think about it -- at the minimum 1 pack of cigarettes per day is roughly $3-$4. Multiply that times 30 days = $120. So for me, it was worth it.
Chantix works with certain receptors in your brain. When you smoke, these "pleasure" receptors are active and therefore you get a reward response for smoking. Chantix blocks, fewer then more with continued use, these receptors. So without the receptors being active your body says "whats the point", and doesn't desire nicotine, and smoking. Now, besides the price, there is one pretty big con in the pros and cons of Chantix. You WILL have strange and VERY intense and vivid dreams while sleeping. At times scary, at other times just confusing. This interfered with my sleep a lot, but after about a month they started to be more normal. Granted, this might not have been from the Chantix, it could have been withdrawal from nicotine. I mean, nicotine is a drug.
No course will work for everyone, and you really have to have the desire and willpower to quit smoking. Honestly, I think another reason for my success is that I didn't want to go back to having the dreams again.
Good luck to all that are quitting, and believe me, it is really worth it. I can actually taste food again, smell nature around me, save $120 bux a month, hopefully live longer, breathe better, and have a lot, LOT, more energy.

I quit about a month and a half ago, smoked for 26 years. I'm using that pill chantix, and it seems to be working.. I haven't had a smoke, and I haven't killed any one, and haven't had the urge to kill.. yet. <evil grin>

lindsay11 said:
Smoking? Duh! It's very dangerous to our health. But why do others take it as a habit? They are crazy! It does nothing good to our life.
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well there are many reasons which would make someone start smoking
like being a cool kid in school to using cigs as stress busters
and here in india we(college/school students) generally smoke to supress sleep to study and perform well in exams(there is a large group that does it just for being cool though)
there have been times when i had to study for more than 30 hrs at a stretch
so at those times you really dont have any option rather than to smoke
(studying in india is harsh you REALLY have to work hard to stay in the competition)

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I feel like blowing my head of

How many of you here get soo low sometimes you feel like popping your head of? Yeah am that low now. Any bright ideas to get me bubble again, please????
Whoa dude!
remember, after every night there is a morning, Whatever cr*p you have to go through, whatever hurdles you have to jump, trust in yourself.
Best advice I've ever recieved.
If you want someone to listen to all your problems, I'm all ears. Just don't consider rash decisions.....life's waay too precious/
Thanks Buddy
Merlin_reloaded said:
remember, after every night there is a morning, Whatever cr*p you have to go through, whatever hurdles you have to jump, trust in yourself.
Best advice I've ever recieved.
If you want someone to listen to all your problems, I'm all ears. Just don't consider rash decisions.....life's waay too precious/
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What can i say???? Thank you. Simple words but believe me you made me feel alot better. I mean that. Thank you
and
u can also think about people who go through alot more a day then urself. I just joined the Army and just finished basic training 3 weeks ago, and now go to AIT to become a Information Systems Specialist. My schedule is crazy and I barely have time for myself, but I just keep my head up and look to my battle buddies for morale boosts.
Anytime
Glad to be of help/
Think...
Think about the people in life who matter. If they're the problem then think about... your phone.
My best friend completed suicide 4 years ago. It was devastating!!! The fact that you are here asking, is a good thing. I honestly would urge you to call a hotline the next time you get the blues so bad you feel this way. Suicide is a permanant solution to a temporary problem, and those left behind will never understand why...they will always be left with a hole in their hearts. Trust me on this fact. While it often seems as if it is only you, it isn't. I can guarantee that folks care about you, and that you aren't alone...so go to those folks, or as I mentioned before call a hotline. There is a line in Gone With the Wind..."after all, tomorrow is another day"...you make it dark or sunny, hopefully you will choose to make it sunny.
I hope whatever has you down passes quickly.
You know, i can identify with you man... Life gets ****ty and the past 2 months for me have been the worst, and in all honesty i cant say that i havent had the same thoughts... But i could never do it, i have 2 young daughters and 2 young step daughters that i love more than anything... And i hate to sound like i play favorites, but my 2 yr old means more to me than anything and i couldnt imagine possibly leaving her, if there is one thing that brings me back to this world and reality its her... Moral of my story, there has to be something that will center you and bring you back, think about it
Been there bro...
Been there too... 3 and 6 yr old boys and fantastic wife keep me going.
Check out St. Johns Wart. It really helps me out when Im feeling blue and has little side effects. It has been used extensively in Germany and Europe for years.
I agree with everyone else... There is always tomorrow and it will be a better day.
Cheers.
It would also be a good idea for you to start going to the gym.
Weight lifting has helped me trough some bad times in my life.
It's amaizing how much can a little phisical activity help you.
Go and try it, if nothing else you will at least blow off some steam.
moral of the story is find something to do, something to keep your mind busy, tomorrow is a different day, it cant rain all the time
Exercise...
Try a recumbent bike...
http://www.sunbicycles.com/sun/recumbents.htm

almost 2 year old daughter has melanoma and needs your prayers...

Sorry to post bad news but it's my daughter and I want to get as many prayers as possible.
She's not even two and is undergoing her second surgery in an attempt to fight off Melanoma.
I typically don't bother people with things like this but it's for my daughter. If it was for me, I wouldn't even bother.
As you can guess, I'm a mess. She's Stage IIIc currently and it could go either way.
Thanks in advance for your prayers.
Please spread the word.
EDIT: If you could reply here so I know how many people are pulling for her....even if you don't pray...that will help.
How this started: She was born with a type of birth mark on her back called a nevus. At her age the doctors told us it's more of a cosmetic decision to have it removed. I listened. They said that in older kids there is a potential for cancer but not in her age group....very rare. They advised that we wait until she was 2 years old to remove it if we decided to go that route, so we waited. Little did I know that it would turn into this. My advice is to remove any threat to your child even if there is a .000000000000000000000000000000000000001% risk...it's never worth it. Lesson #1, I wish I would have been more vain and said that "thing" has to go immediately. Well, all was going fine then one day we noticed that an area of the nevus started to change. We made an appointment at the specialists and it took a while to get her in. No one thought it was a threat but they wanted to do tests. We took her in and they took a piece and sent it to the lab. MISTAKE/LESSON #2...if there is any threat to your child...tell the doctors NOT to take a little piece and examine it...tell them to TAKE THE ENTIRE THING then do what they need to do, not leave pieces behind that could yield further issues. If they would have taken the entire thing out, the risk would have been greatly reduced. The longer you leave cancer cells in your body the worse it can become. After the tests came back as positive for cancer they immediately scheduled the operation to have it and a significant area around it removed for further testing. That happened, the rest of it went off to a lab and the perimeter came back with no cancerous cells. They also took out a few lymph nodes but those came back positive for cancer cells. As soon as those results came back she went back in for her second surgery.
Update: 09/14/2008. People have been asking me so I'm posting an update. She's undergone two surgeries. The second was to remove additional areas of potential threat and also all the lymph nodes under each arm. The cancer could have spread to these lymph nodes and they had to remove them in case it was contained there. I'm praying it was. As for how she's doing now, she has 4 drain tubes to drain fluids from her body while she recovers. One under each arm and two on her back. As the doctors explained, after surgery there are voids where the body tries to fill with fluid and they need to keep that fluid from settling. She had a couple of bad days with pain from these tubes that are going into her body but the past couple of days she's been doing wonderful. We have to stay on top of her to ensure she doesn't hurt herself. Right now the lymph nodes that were removed have been sent off for further testing and we should have results back sometime next week. She also starts cancer treatments next week in an attempt to cut off or delay any further manifestations in her little body.
Update: 09/17/08. We just got back from the doctor. Got the 4 drain tubes and "bulbs" removed so now she can move more freely and with less supervision. I can also go back to a normal sleep routine since I had to sleep with one eye open to ensure she didn't tangle herself with the plastic tubes when she turned in bed during the night. Big relief here. She also had her CT scan of the brain. We had the surgeon pull the file up as a favor and he said it looked okay BUT that he was not a neurologist nor was the scan officially reviewed yet so we continue to pray and soon we start the aggressive therapy...Interferon Alpha2b. Many side effects but nothing worse than cancer spreading so it's worth the ride for all involved. We now wait for the official results to get back to us and the results of all the lymph nodes that were removed in the second operation. Thank you all and keep praying for her no matter the faith you believe in and if you don't believe in any God please think positive thoughts for my little girl. I'm not too proud to beg when it comes to my child.
Update: 09/17/08 #2. Just got an e-mail from a doctor at the hospital. The results from the lymph node tests came back all negative and the nodes removed during the second operation had no cancer. This is great news for me and my family because statistically it puts the odds back in her favor. We're still moving forward with periodic scans of all her major organs and the cancer treatment, which we're starting next week. Keep praying for her people and thank you....thank you.....thank you!!!
Update: 09/23/08. All is positive but will be getting a little bad for her for the next year. She starts Interferon therapy on Monday. It's going to be an interesting year. Again, thank you all for your continued support. You have no idea how much it helps.
Update: 10/11/08. Thank you all for your continued support. She's not finished her first 2 of 52 week treatment. The first 4 weeks are the worst but she's actually doing extremely well. The only side effects she's demonstrated were high fever the first two days of treatment which we quickly got under control with a Motrin and Tylenol routine and her being more tired because we have to wake up extra early to be at the hospital every single day for her treatment. The first 4 weeks we have to be at the hospital anywhere from 3-7 hours for her treatments. She's doing extremely well and i'm still praying that this treatment is not necessary and that the cancer never made it past her lymph nodes into her body. This treatment doesn't really cure anything...it just prolonges the time before relapse. If the lymph nodes contained it then we're good. After the initial 4 weeks, we start giving her injections three times weekly at the house. This is going to be easier on her as she'll be able to start sleeping in again and taking her naps on time. Her eating habits are a little off as well because the treatments give you a bad taste in your mouth. Luckily for us, we're fortunate enough to be able to cook up a choice of dishes for her keeping her eating. She's gotten picky about what she eats but we're giving her enough choices to keep her eating. We're trying to avoid avoid weight loss which is one side effect but it's typically a result of patience not wanting to eat because food just doesn't taste as good. Kids at this age don't know to eat because they have to until they are starving when stuff like this happens...unless daddy feeds them some of the best Fajita's in town or a savory steak. We have two more weeks of the "hard" treatment and then it eases up on her body a bit because the dosage is reduced for the remaining 11 months.
Update: 10/25/08. Thank you all yet again for your continued support. We've finished the month long daily treatments of heavy interferon dosage. She actually had two small side effects out of all the scary stuff and although we still have 11 more months of treatments that could yield some nasty side effects, she pulled through the heavy part like a champ. Of the 30 days she had 2 with fever which we brought under immediate control using Tylenol and Motrin and then she would get a little flush in the face a few other days but a hydration solution through the portacath in her chest fixed that right away. We had some long days at the hospital and i'm thankful that my customers are understanding. It's been tough but worth the fight and the entire family remains strong. Little Alessandra seems to be the strongest of the bunch, LOL. The grandmothers missed a lot of work because we didn't want to take Alessandra's little brother to the hospital for the long days so they stayed at the house until we returned from her treatments then they shot off to work. Friday was the last day of heavy treatments and now we start treating her at home by giving her three shots a week. We still have to monitor her for side effects, continue to take her in for regular scans of her organs to see if cancer pops up anywhere, and watch her skin to see if there are ANY changes. All in all a small price to pay if the cancer never manifests itself again. I think we've made a decision to remove every mole on her body once she goes back in for the, I hope to God, final surgery. The melanoma can manifest itself in moles much easier than in other areas of the skin and considering what she's already been through, I'm not leaving ANYTHING to chance. Some may think I'm crazy and this may be going too far but you wouldn't understand until you went through this. The odds of her having to go through this were astronomical but it happened. I'm not leaving it to chance and as another member in the forum reminded me, drastic times call for drastic measures. Again, thank you all and I will continue to keep the thread updated for those interested in our fight.
Thank you all for your continued support. She's tough and fighting it with a strength that is incredible for someone her age. BTW, she's now officially 2 years old.
Update: 11/25/08. Yesterday/Monday we took her to the hospital for a check up. Had ultra sounds done on the areas where they removed the lymph nodes and a chest x-ray. Thank God nothing was present. All tests came out clean and we're moving forward to enjoy our Thanksgiving Holidays. One thing we've taught Alessandra to do was pray. She enjoys it and now is old enough to join in and even ask us to pray with her. She looks like a little angel when praying, putting her hands together and bowing her little head while we all pray together. Thank you all for your continued prayers. Keep my little daughter in your prayers, positive thoughts, etc. it's working. She's a very strong little girl and is making it through all the shots and scans and pokes of her little body. No child should ever have to go through this but if they do they should with a loving family and as many prayers as possible. Thank you all for doing your part in helping us with this fight. Again, no matter your religion thank you in advance for your prayers. I have word that people all over the planet are praying for my little girl. Hundreds of churches of all religions and literally thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of people in many different countries are praying. Thanks again!
Update: 12/17/08. Last Saturday we had to take the little one into the emergency room. She had something swelling bad where the scar is from her last surgery. They did an ultra sound and found fluid and also some mass. Thursday/tomorrow we're schedule for her third operation. They want to go in and remove this immediately. They will run tests and determine if it's a reoccurance of her cancer or just the way that area healed. I'm praying that it's not cancer and that it just healed weird and caused the swelling. Thanks again everyone for your continued support.
Update: 12/28/08. The operation was good and she was out the same day. The results came back and it was more cancer. Not good. Over the holiday weekend we noticed another lump swelling on her back. It's most likely more cancer. On Monday we go in for entire body scans CT and PET. I'm praying and hoping to God that this is only isolated in those areas and once removed it's over with and that it's not in a major organ. Just thinking about it is the most painful thing I've ever experienced. Thank you all for your continued support and prayers. She needs that more than anything right now. We'll most likely be scheduling another operation to go in and remove the new lump from her back this week. Will make it her 5th operation within a 12 month period. All I can say is I wish it was me.
Update: 01/02/09. The CT came back clean but the PET found another tumor in addition to the one we visually detected. Doctors ordered an Ultrasound which initially confused me. I figured why an Ultrasound when we already did a CT and PET? Well, i'm glad we did. We noticed that the lump that was visually detected was actually two very close together. The Ultrasound gave everyone a more clear picture. I'm learning a lot more about this disease and will one day try to setup a website to help others. There is a lot of knowledge that i've gained that I haven't read about on any other website and all the sites basically tell you the same stuff over and over. It's good info but it's not good for when you're already in the fight. You need a new set of rules and data when battling this monster and maybe one day i can put it up to help others...one day after my daughter is done fighting and maybe she can even help me. Meanwhile, I sit at the hospital for the operation. They were initially going to go in to do "clean up" from the previous operation and remove the three additional tumors found. I spoke to the surgeon and told him I wanted to do more. I wanted to remove more of the "left over" lymph "channels" to avoid a reoccurance. I let him know that the disease is betting more aggressive and I wanted to do the same. He immediately called in the plastic surgeon that he had on standby and jumped right on the idea after consulting with another oncologist. She's now in there and it might be another 4-5 hours before she's done. No matter how many times I've been through this with her, I can never avoid crying when they take her from my arms and into the operating room. I just sit and wait now and pray all is going well and that this might be the last operation she'll ever have to endure. One thing I know for sure, this family will be unstoppable when we win this fight because the strength gained from this battle is not going to be taken for granted.
Now...i've gotten a lot of PM's offering help from users that have gone through cancer, from doctors that use the forum, from users who knew someone with cancer and even those just extending their best wishes but i was never really too sure what kind of help I could get for my daughter but now I know one thing that can help us greatly. Please continue your prayers...Muslim, Christian, Islam, whatever....please pray for Alessandra. Second, I know that best way to fight this is early detection so I ask the doctors and people that have been through this and those that know anything....help me by letting me know of any cutting edge medical scanning technology, etc. The CT and PET and Ultrasound are all great tools. There are also the 3D and even 4D Ultrasounds. I want to hear from you guys because I'm about to set appointments to get her entire body scanned with an Ultrasound. I know this will only catch stuff close to the surface and doesn't work well detecting tumors deep in her body, if i am understanding all of this correctly and please note that I haven't had much time to research it fully yet. For anyone out there that knows anything about this stuff, I have the following questions:
- Is there anything more advanced and higher resolution than an Ultrasound? From talking to the doctors it seems the Ultrasound can detect smaller "objects" than a CT or PET would be able to and it seems like the Ultrasound had a more "clear" view of the items. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- Are there any other technologies that can be used to scan for cancer instances that a PET/CT/Ultrasound might miss?
- Has anyone heard of any other ways of detecting melanoma cancer once it's in the lymph nodes and even in the body once it gets past the lymph nodes? Other than scanning with the PET/CT/Ultrasound and waiting for a tumor to be large enough to show up?
- Any chemical detection methods available? I read that some cancer produces certain protein markers that can be detected very early via blood tests. Does anyone know of something similar for melanoma?
- The Interferon treatments she's undergoing might or might not be working. Has anyone heard of any available treatment for someone her age when Interferon doesn't work for melanoma cancer? I heard the Mayo clinic has alternate treatments but when I called the doctor wouldn't talk to me and insisted I go see them. All I wanted to know were questions to plan my trip accordingly like: Can it be administered with Interferon? If not, how long after the Interferon treatment finishes can the alternate treatment begin? What are some side effects, if any, of the alternate treatment? How long would the alternate treatment last for? All of these questions were so I knew what to expect, how to plan for it and how long we would be undergoing treatment. What really pissed me off is that the doctor wouldn't even answer questions through her assistant. Pretty damn petty and business like when a little girl's life might be at risk here. I know there might be protocol but hell, sometimes protocol needs to be circumvented when it's petty and someone's life is at risk...give me a ****ing break.
So if anyone has any knowledge they would like to share please do so in reply within the thread. Your response might help someone else that hasn't had time to post something like this or prefers to be more private than I'm being.
Thank you all again for your support and for any help you may give here for my daughter and for anyone else going through this.
Update: 04.20.09. The fight against the cancer continues. My daughter is hanging in there. She currently has three-four tumors. One was removed this week for a special trial that we've enrolled her in. She's undergone Interferon and Interlukin-2 treatments. I feel that the Interlukin-2 had an effect on the cancer and we're going to revisit it but right now it's time for more aggressive treatments. A friend of the family has put up a website that's not 100% done. I see AstainHellBring posted it and I thank him for that. I'm going to post more details there and what we've gone through. I hope this new site not only helps my family but also other families going through the same thing. There is so much miscommunication and things they dont' tell you that I want to communicate, it's crazy. Things that you need to prepare for but either they are affraid to tell you or they just don't know. Thank you all for your continued support for my daughter. I'll post more info later.
Can't post updates here...message too long so posting to the end of the thread again.
sorry to hear that
u have her in our prayers!
GOD BLESS!
You have my prayers and sympathies. Wishing your family nothing but absolutely the best and success.
good luck man i hope for the best
Oh man, that's terrible to have your child sick like that. We are praying for her and your family.
Best of luck that they are able to take care of this problem
Do not worry, we are with you and your daughter in our prayers.
I wish you much good luck
God Bless and our prayers go to her ..
horrible thing to have to go through, my best wishes to you and yours.
G,
Your request is circulating now throughout Ohio. Our prayers and support are with you and your family. Keep us posted.
Raskell
i got a 3 year old daughter myself i can imagine what your going thru, i'm not a religious guy but i'll do whatever i can to support her and your family, we're all thinking about her, i hope she get's well soon !
my best wishes and prayers for her speedy recovery!
May God bless her!!
Let us hope & pray for the best for your daughter, and may God bless her with the strength to overcome this.
my best wishes for your duaghter... i wil pray... GOD bless...
I don't have words to express myself, prayers of me and my complete family are with your daughter.
My best wishes for your daughter and your family. I really hope she will recover quickly
You have my prayers for her. Have faith.
Adil
I wish you and your family all the best and will pray for your little girl to have a full recovery.
I am not a religious person, but as a recent father I am thinking of you and your daughter.
I wish her and all your family all the best.
@MikeChannon, very nice words.
Dave
I'm going to add this thread to my sig to help get the word out and to get the max amount of thoughts and prayers possible.

*** The Getting Fit / Weight Loss Thread - Get Off Your Ass! ***

OK, since I've started a new weight loss regime, I figured I'd start a thread to see who else is into fitness/weightloss at the moment.
Maybe post your progress as you lose weight, or build muscle...
I'm currently 88Kg, which is 10-15Kg overweight for my height and age. Most of it is in my gut
I signed up with Anytime Fitness. They have really good facilities...all new and modern...the aerobic equipment (treadmill, rower, clye, stepper) all have tv available on the large LCD screen...
Also signed up with CalorieKing (US version available too). You enter your age, height, wieght etc and set a target weight, then it tell you how many calories you need per day. You use it like a food and excercise diary so it does all the work for you. It's a very handy tool. It has almost every food/brand in it's database.
Also signed up with Fitocracy, with a group on an Aussie forum. You get points for exercising/weight lifting etc and compete with others, as well as doing challenges etc...really good fun and help with the motivation!
If there was enough interest, I'd start an XDA group
Not at the moment, but i plan to start jogging and working out again (like the past years) starting february. I'm 25, my weight is currently 85kg and i'm 184cm (6"). I managed to lose 15kg last year (and 10kg is back now since i like beer and pizza).
I used RunKeeper Pro last year when i jogged and i'm planning to do the same this year. So my goal is to lose some weight and get more ripped (i'm fairly muscular since i used to lift weights for a couple of years, but no Arnold).
After that it'll be summer again and i'll slowly drown in beer and BBQ and i'll be at 85kg again in 12 month
Btw Willie, how old are you? Yes, we need to know.
I need to lose my beer belly. Since drastically decreasing my smoking, I've gained 10 kilos, and now my face has some fat on it, not just skin and bones like 3 months ago. So I'm actually happy I gained weight. lol
I think we're all in the same boat. Too much time in front of the computer, not enough time in the gym.
When they fit treadmills with 24" monitors and broadband connections i may consider going back!
Copycat.....you know what I'm talking about mate
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I think we're all in the same boat. Too much time in front of the computer, not enough time in the gym.
When they fit treadmills with 24" monitors and broadband connections i may consider going back!
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They have the next best thing at a gym i used to go to. Treadmills with intigraded monitors and cable TV. I watched American Chopper while i jogged It actually helped since my mind was somewhere else and not "omg, i can't run anymore, omg omg".
Phatman don't do gyms.
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Phatman don't do gyms.
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me neither but i need to buff up, its just such a hard habit to get into
I do arm curls lifting this whopper to my face. Mmmmmm
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I do arm curls lifting this whopper to my face. Mmmmmm
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To your face?? Oh.... a burger
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They have the next best thing at a gym i used to go to. Treadmills with intigraded monitors and cable TV. I watched American Chopper while i jogged It actually helped since my mind was somewhere else and not "omg, i can't run anymore, omg omg".
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Yea, that's what my gym has
Have set up 3 session with a fitness trainer who's going to come up with a program for me to follow.
Can't wait to see that gut start disappearing!
I wanted to order pizza when i got home tonight, but i resisted. First step on the road to recovery!
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I wanted to order pizza when i got home tonight, but i resisted. First step on the road to recovery!
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lol...got to start somewhere
So..I'm starting one soon as I know I'm about 10-15 lbs overweight and just got word from doctor my chol/blood pressure is borderline. A lot to do with the food I eat; counting calories never worked for me. I'm actually seeing a dietitian soon that will work with me to form a proper diet so I can actually intake more of the good stuff and cut down on the bad stuff.
Apparently, all the exercise and calorie counting in the world doesn't get anywhere without eating the right foods and doing the right exercises.
For exercise, I just need to increase frequency, work already gives me 3 days a week out of their time, just need to put some personal time into it.
My dad was told by his doctor a few years ago that he was at risk for diabetes, and just recently he actually started to do something about it. He's been running on a treadmill everyday for about 4 months, slowly increasing the pace and workload. He hasn't lost a lot of weight (we assume it is because of how he eats) so I started to make him swim with me. I'm a pretty good swimmer, and i lost a ton of weight by doing it. I hope the combination will help him lose weight. Good luck to you guys.
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Over 2 weeks now
I've been going to the gym for over 2 weeks now (this after signing up for a membership and paying for it for the past 2 years yet never did I step foot inside the gym until recently!). Let me tell you it's a great feeling to get back to gym. I use the treadmill for 20 minutes everyday (they have 17" flat screens per treadmill now with 10-15 channels!) and then spend an hour using the weights. I actually look forward to going to gym now.
To those of you who are thinking about it: I've been on and off from the gym a lot, but I finally realized that if you really want something then you will make time for it no matter what. So in the end you need to look at yourself and ask how badly you want to lose those pounds or gain muscle. I'm not talking about simply saying "Yeah, I need it badly", but FEELING THE NEED. Then you will have your answer
Yep, I've been going for a few weeks now. It's definitely getting much easier and I'm nowhere near as sore after a session now
I do the same as machmanx above, I use the treadmill (also have tv screens on the equipment ) for a 20-30 minute run, then hit the weights.
I'm loving it. I have more "get up and go" now...I'm not as much of a lazy bum as I used to be
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The more muscle you build the more calories they'll burn, starting with the simple carbs and then the complex carbs, but don't lower your caloric intake drastically as the reverse will happen and your body will go into catabolic state (catabolism), and start using your muscle for energy and store fat instead as it will feel it is in a famine situation and fat is more important (nerves, brain function, and organ protection), and while a difficult process, your liver can convert protein for energy needs.
A good idea is to determine a decent caloric minimum intake for daily sustenance (just to survive that is -major organs, digestion, heart pumping etc.), take into account your daily lifestyle i.e. office work at a desk versus working on a farm, construction etc., and then add calories for those needs and still more for weight training and aerobic exercise. That way you'll have sufficient energy for daily needs plus calories to burn and rebuild muscle which in turn will burn unwanted calories. Space your meals to be more small meals throughout the day versus three or less heavy meals. They'll be better utilized and your energy levels and blood sugar will be more stable and regulated throughout your day.
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Thanks for the advice...seems to line up with what I've read elsewhere. You obviously know your stuff
I'm using a popular Aussie calorie counting website/diary. It has given me the ideal calorie intake required per day along with a few other helpful things
WHERE HAS THIS THREAD BEEN ALL MY TIME HERE ON XDA?! First, my (probably innecesary and maybe too detailed for some) introduction.
Hello, my name is Raúl and I'm a foodaholic. I'm near the 300 lb mark, although I "don't look the part". I am trying to follow the Weight Watchers PointsPlus diet (I stopped going after two months there). I am 6'2" and "big boned". I used to go to the gym, but ended up going alone and that really wasn't motivating for be (I could try it again though). I am sure I can pull off looking the best best 200-220 lbs, simply because I am a big guy. I am also a full-time computer engineering student.
Phew!
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I run every day with my dog. Sometimes I will play tennis too.

Drop-out of college

Results announced. I did very, very poor. Actually the reason for this is, I am not at all interested in studying what I am. I am always like 'Not feeling to'. Currently in Uni, 2nd year. Thinking of dropping out, the same I thought when I was in 1st year but I gave that thought away thinking that its just a new place, I will get suited to it. But now I am fairly sure, that trying to do something which I am not interested in will not land me anywhere good.
Experienced people, please suggest should I drop out? Reason holding me back are, my 2 years will be wasted not to mention the money put in.
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Results announced. I did very, very poor. Actually the reason for this is, I am not at all interested in studying what I am. I am always like 'Not feeling to'. Currently in Uni, 2nd year. Thinking of dropping out, the same I thought when I was in 1st year but I gave that thought away thinking that its just a new place, I will get suited to it. But now I am fairly sure, that trying to do something which I am not interested in will not land me anywhere good.
Experienced people, please suggest should I drop out? Reason holding me back are, my 2 years will be wasted not to mention the money put in.
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I got 3 Choices for ya.
-Finish The School Year
-Switch Majors to something ya like
-Just Stick to it because you have put money in
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I got 3 Choices for ya.
-Finish The School Year
-Switch Majors to something ya like
-Just Stick to it because you have put money in
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Cannot switch majors. Our uni doesn't give any option like that.
I might drag myself to the finish of the course or I might drop out. Lets see. Thanks for your opinion.
Sure thing good luck
That's impossible. School have to allow to let you switch majors, unless you live in commie cuba or something. Go back, take easy classes for now, don't overwhelm yourself. My school kicked me out due to low grades. I'm starting a different school in 2 weeks, and I will have to waste 1.5 hours on the subway one way, but I need to get my GPA up so then I can write an appeals to my old school. So just go back, and take classes that won't be too hard to understand.
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Universities in the UK are run differently to the US.
I was at uni in the mid 90s and after a car accident in my first year, went back to start again.
About this time of year, a housemate came home high on drugs and attacked me, so I decided to leave uni, I wasn't enjoying it and back then with loans of only £1000 it was costing too much to live (not like students now with their generous loans).
I was unemployed for 2 weeks, had to pay Hampshire county council the small grant I had back.
However, times have changed, there were better employment prospects at the time, how are yours now?
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However, times have changed, there were better employment prospects at the time, how are yours now?
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What he said.
There's nothing worse than making a mistake that you can't take back. Especially one that could change your life forever. I'd stay the course and see if you can't work something out with your tutors to get on top of the situation.
One or two sucky years is better than forty or fifty!
this is a grim topic....
Let's say you already drop out of college, what would you do after that?
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Let's say you already drop out of college, what would you do after that?
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Find a minimum wage job?
Stick it out. There are ways to make it more fun. Lots of people think back to college as a time when things were more fun. Get laid / smoke a joint. Oh, and don't forget about cheating to get good grades. Join a study group or frat (ie something where everybody ia trying for good grades). They might also have some fun activities.
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Let's say you already drop out of college, what would you do after that?
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Well, doing this course was never my interest. After drop out, I'll try to do what I always wanted to or had interest in and of course get some job.
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Stick it out. There are ways to make it more fun. Lots of people think back to college as a time when things were more fun. Get laid / smoke a joint. Oh, and don't forget about cheating to get good grades. Join a study group or frat (ie something where everybody ia trying for good grades). They might also have some fun activities.
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Well yes, a lot of people think like 'College is the best part of life' and all, but honestly, I never felt that way not even close to. Everyday I am like, oh another week, I have to go to college so that I can get minimum attendance required so that they allow to give the exams. I am never excited or looking forward to going to the classes, not even a single class and no wonder this will affect my result which I have just seen.
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after discussion with a few people, I am thinking of continuing this course and get a side course, like correspondence in which you have to study at home and only go to give the exams.
what's your course?
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Turn on, tune in, drop out.
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what's your course?
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applied physics engineering
I was in a similar position several years ago. I've just finished my 2nd year of uni and I've completely lost interest in studying. My poor grades led to me being suspended for a semester.
I seriously considered dropping out to pursue a career in IT via A+ Certification. Anyway, after several long discussions with my family, I decided put my head down and graduate from uni first before making any further career decisions.
It was the best decision I ever made. I became a more mature and disciplined person through the experience. And I'm able to use it my advantage during job interviews. I'm able to say things like:
"I don't give up easily when faced with hardships. I hit a snag in the road during university but I'm able to push through it with my determination. My immaturity early-on cost me dearly in terms of average GPA. But if you just look at my grades over my last several semesters, those high marks represent my growth and my true potential."
If you drop out now, it would be hard to answer the inevitable interview question: "I see here on your CV that you've attended so-and-so university for 2 years. What happened there?"
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I was in a similar position several years ago. I've just finished my 2nd year of uni and I've completely lost interest in studying. My poor grades led to me being suspended for a semester.
I seriously considered dropping out to pursue a career in IT via A+ Certification. Anyway, after several long discussions with my family, I decided put my head down and graduate from uni first before making any further career decisions.
It was the best decision I ever made. I became a more mature and disciplined person through the experience. And I'm able to use it my advantage during job interviews. I'm able to say things like:
"I don't give up easily when faced with hardships. I hit a snag in the road during university but I'm able to push through it with my determination. My immaturity early-on cost me dearly in terms of average GPA. But if you just look at my grades over my last several semesters, those high marks represent my growth and my true potential."
If you drop out now, it would be hard to answer the inevitable interview question: "I see here on your CV that you've attended so-and-so university for 2 years. What happened there?"
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You have a good point there.
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You have a good point there.
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I went to engineering college studied electronics.
Passed a AVR & PIC exam.
Then got bored with my classes and dropped out after 2 years.
I went to look for a job... no luck anywhere.
Then wrote comptia +A exam.
Still no luck.
Passed N+
BAM finally got a position that i could live off of.
It's been a hard climb due to my age.
Time is limited.. go now.
Finish thy classes.
For thou shalt have time to peruse other things without the waste.

Please help me overcome depression from a recent rejection

I asked my person of interest for the first time in my life. We met in a group discussion which went for 2 weeks and I had a liking for her from 1 month ago. When I asked, she was nice about it and said no and that we should stay friends. I shrugged it off and said OK, thanks for being nice.
The problem is that, I can't think of anything else now, I know that the world isn't ending just because 1 person rejected me. However I can not stop myself and it is turning me into a depressed wreck. How do you guys deal with it? What is your story?
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Every experience with a person of the opposite sex, whether friendship or romance, is a lesson to learn to prepare you for meaningful relationships later, such as marriage. Learn from it and move on. Remember, being friends with girls is good, because they have other friends who are girls, and may try to hook you up.
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You've had a strong mating reaction to a member of the opposite sex. Your body has released a flood of dopamine into your brain so you will feel vaguely sick and your appetite will be suppressed.
I suggest playing Counter Strike for twelve hours a day until your brain functions return to normal.
I find distraction is the best reaction in this situation your mind will get over it with time, and not much else. So keep yourself busy while you wait! Play some games you've not played in a long time, (like counter strike as suggested above ), or do you have any android projects you have always wanted to try like making a custom Rom, or beta test some non stable roms for some devs, I also recommend going for a long walk. It sounds to simple to make any difference but a long walk can give your mind a chance to rattle things out and come to terms with things lastly your right, the worlds not going to end for some girl, so don't beat yourself up about it your only human and we have good and bad experiences, just be glad that ones over
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You've had a strong mating reaction to a member of the opposite sex. Your body has released a flood of dopamine into your brain so you will feel vaguely sick and your appetite will be suppressed.
I suggest playing Counter Strike for twelve hours a day until your brain functions return to normal.
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Listen to this man, he is wise beyond his years. I'm 34, and have had my share of rejection. I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but you will get over it. Just concentrate on you for the time being.
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When a study about love was carried out, scientists put subjects in an MRI scanner and looked to see what was going. They would show the subjects pictures of somebody they loved to see which areas of the brain were activated and then show them pictures of somebody they hated. The same areas of the brain were activated in both cases.
Right now you're suffering because of feelings of love for this girl, but when you start to hate her for rejecting you, the feelings that you have, and the reaction your brain has to it will be exactly the same. Either way it's angst and despair.
Love=Hate. Get your head around that!
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When a study about love was carried out, scientists put subjects in an MRI scanner and looked to see what was going. They would show the subjects pictures of somebody they loved to see which areas of the brain were activated and then show them pictures of somebody they hated. The same areas of the brain were activated in both cases.
Right now you're suffering because of feelings of love for this girl, but when you start to hate her for rejecting you, the feelings that you have, and the reaction your brain has to it will be exactly the same. Either way it's angst and despair.
Love=Hate. Get your head around that!
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Huh, explains why I hate my wife sometimes.
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LoopDoGG79 said:
Huh, explains why I hate my wife sometimes.
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Now would be a good time to clear your Browser history!
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Now would be a good time to clear your Browser history!
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That's what incognito mode is for.
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That's what incognito mode is for.
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The OP did ask how people here deal with rejection, so perhaps one of you married guys could answer that? My understanding is that wives say no all the time! :laugh:
The tried and true method would be Alcohol of course. That's what guys usually turn to at these difficult times. To find out how that works, it's best to imagine the alcohol as Pac-Man running through your arteries, chomping away at all the nasty hormones until it's cleared all the levels. Once you're good and drunk all the hormones are gone, leaving you with a strange urge to eat a greasy lamb kebab, and a minging headache in the morning.
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The OP did ask how people here deal with rejection, so perhaps one of you married guys could answer that? My understanding is that wives say no all the time! :laugh:
The tried and true method would be Alcohol of course. That's what guys usually turn to at these difficult times. To find out how that works, it's best to imagine the alcohol as Pac-Man running through your arteries, chomping away at all the nasty hormones until it's cleared all the levels. Once you're good and drunk all the hormones are gone, leaving you with a strange urge to eat a greasy lamb kebab, and a minging headache in the morning.
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I prefer to let her drink alcohol, and much away at her hormones, and hopefully get her to stop rejecting me. Of course, it could backfire depending on the time of the month and poor choice of words or actions on your part, which of course you know you did a week later in some random argument... You know what, a beer sounds good right now.....
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Time *will* make it easier. Think back to anything else in your life that brought you down, from simple things like not being able to buy that brand new game you wanted because you didn't have enough cash, right through to the more serious things in life, like losing friends and/or family and suffering grief. Think about those things and how it felt like you'd never get over them (depending on the seriousness of whatever it is you're thinking of), and then think about how you feel about it now. You'll realise that things just do get better over time.
Incidentally, I personally wouldn't take the advice to drink through it. Alcohol lowers certain chemical levels in the brain for days after that regulate how you feel. You can do yourself serious damage that way and turn a temporary problem into clinical depression, not to mention the fact that relying on alcohol for anything is a recipe for disaster.
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I asked my person of interest for the first time in my life. We met in a group discussion which went for 2 weeks and I had a liking for her from 1 month ago. When I asked, she was nice about it and said no and that we should stay friends. I shrugged it off and said OK, thanks for being nice.
The problem is that, I can't think of anything else now, I know that the world isn't ending just because 1 person rejected me. However I can not stop myself and it is turning me into a depressed wreck. How do you guys deal with it? What is your story?
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What is the real reason behind your depression
1- You were rejected
2- You cant be with her anymore, and i am pretty sure you can't be friends
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Incidentally, I personally wouldn't take the advice to drink through it...
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Hey, men have been drinking because of women since the dawn of time. It's why we invented the pub!
The OP isn't 'depressed', he has a sad.
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Hey, men have been drinking because of women since the dawn of time. It's why we invented the pub!
The OP isn't 'depressed', he has a sad.
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I know what you're saying, and I wasn't trying to be heavy or down on what you said, but without moderation it *can* become depression with the addition of alcohol, over long term. A few nights cutting loose is obviously a totally different thing though.
I've personally known people start off just a bit low and end up fully depressed because of alcohol. It's unfortunately a very slippery slope as it *does* make you feel better when you're drinking, but leaves you lower than you started for a few days afterwards, which can lead to another drink because, "Hey, it worked last time, right?" And rinse and repeat. Sad becomes depressed becomes clinically depressed, and that can last for life if not treated correctly.
Anyway, this is far too heavy and now I'm having a sad. There's always the old adage, that the easiest way to get over someone is to get under someone else
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There's always the old adage, that the easiest way to get over someone is to get under someone else
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And with that the OP gets the best solution to his problem! :good:
I wouldn't seriously encourage anyone to drink to resolve issues. I'm a teetotaller myself so i find crying into my cornflakes works best for me when i'm blue, or going down the gym and pumping iron for an hour or two. We'll go with the latter one as it sounds more manly!
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Huh, I've never experienced rejection. Because I've never tried!
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He who dares wins Milad, he who dares wins. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Alcohol is a short term solution, and has long terms impact.
I would recommend you to just stay busy, go out hang out. Play games( yes it does work)
dont rely on alcohol.
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Believe it or not, this Tuesday, in a social gathering at my university, a girl approached and talked to me. I didn't get her number in the end though. It was getting awkward when I said 'I should be going' and left for home. But it was the first of many things for me.
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Practice makes perfect. With a little more practice you'll be getting girls' numbers, then their address...oh wait. :what:
Yeah, I've been there but at least this girl of yours was nice about it and told you politely and even wanted to remain friends. The girl I fell for just ignored me completely and blocked me on all social media . My advice ? Go out with your mates. Hit the gym. Spend time with the family. Take up a new hobby. Video game a little. Just do something to take your mind off her . It's the holidays, cheer up

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