Im new here. Sorry if this is a newb topic but i have no clue what to do now. I'd even be fine with just going back to the latest unrooted version right now because im stuck on rc29.
I originally had CRC1. I'm having trouble on one of the last steps of getting root. I used this guide http://androidandme.com/2009/05/guid...stall-cupcake/ . I am on i think step 3 and everything else has went well. I'm back to RC29, but when i go to upgrade radio image it says either cant find file or bad file after i have copied it to sd card and renamed it update.zip. Can someone please give specific steps on how to get this working? If for some reason I can't get root can i get back to the original OS CRC1 that i had easily? Please help. Thanks.
There is no reason to start a new thread dude. There is a whole thread on all these questions.
brad3024 said:
Im new here. Sorry if this is a newb topic but i have no clue what to do now. I'd even be fine with just going back to the latest unrooted version right now because im stuck on rc29.
I originally had CRC1. I'm having trouble on one of the last steps of getting root. I used this guide http://androidandme.com/2009/05/guid...stall-cupcake/ . I am on i think step 3 and everything else has went well. I'm back to RC29, but when i go to upgrade radio image it says either cant find file or bad file after i have copied it to sd card and renamed it update.zip. Can someone please give specific steps on how to get this working? If for some reason I can't get root can i get back to the original OS CRC1 that i had easily? Please help. Thanks.
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Answer: yes if you're not rooted you should receive the OTAs and get back to CRC1 soon
Please search next time and post in correct forum (Q&A)
sorry about that. I've tried searching and trying different things. Will I still get OTA update to RC33 even If its not letting me manually look for an update in settings/about phone? sorry for the noob questions. Thanks.
It will automaticlly upgrade over night, redownload the radio image and try with a new one
If you are using windows, it hides the file ext so you only need to. Rename it update not update.zip
So today i finally get the gusto mod my phone Android Dev 1. After downloading all the files and following the instructions here i can't get past the black g1 screen (#8). note i can also get the the rgb screen. thats it, but with so many different posts with similar issues, my brain is pounding. At this point if i can get beack to factory, ill live. what i'll hate is the fact that bricked my phone. i'll most likely get screamed on for not searching, but i think i may be searched out. any help would be appreciated.
thanks.
docfu.
first of all dont freak out lol. Download the dreaming.nbh or w/e file from the rooting instructions and place it at the root of the sdcard. Then get into the rgb screen (Camera + Power) and flash it. That should get you back to factory settings. If not, download the update.zip for w/e region you are in place it on your sd card. Enter recovery (Home + Power) and flash the update.
ok...so i tried the DREAMING file and it kept turning up no image found, alternatively i'm not sure what you mean by w/e region update. i ihavent come across that in my searches.
ok dreaming file did infact work. i feel better knowing that the phone isnt bricked. however after running the update when it prompts for action, i hit the trackball and i'm right back at the rgb screen..AGGGHHHH! sorry. i've been at this since 3pm this afternoon.
Chill. Don't freak. You can't just jump in and do something as soon as your read it. Read the whole thing and if you don't have the patients for this work on that before you work on this. bbreath.
I must say start by saying thanks guys. i stepped back, and actually took my [email protected]@ to bed. Rest does wonders. That said. I've accomplished the factory reset. so i back to a stock g1, and boy does it suck. As stated my phone WAS a dev 1. i've already started the upgrade process, my question at this point is where do you recommend i go from here. back to dev 1 or try one of the other roms. i've already installed the spl, and right now im stuck at the telnetd part of the root process. and this too may have me screaming by the end of the day...
any thoughts would be appreciated.
After the recovery image is installed you need to update the radio if you want to install a cupcake 1.5 ROM. You can get it here, rename 'update.zip', place on the SD card and boot in to recovery and flash. Then flash a ROM of your choice. You should be able to do that on RC 30, but I'm not sure if you need to install a rooted image first, so I'd wait for someone else's input before trying that.
I played it extra safe and used the rc29. as far as i know the proper radio is installed. i'll wait around before i do something stupid. thanks for the input tho. i'm trying to learn everything.
ok...so i went back to the original method for obtaining root. i was so frustrated last nite that i ended up trying to combine 2 slightly diff methods. at this point i call them the telnetd method and root.apk method. correct me if im wrong but niether one mentions the other. so i make it to the bootloader running the root.apk it runs thru the list and the fails at radio_v2. now im on the white screen wuth the skateboarders, the radio #says 1.22.12.29. so i run it again i
now im on the rgb screen at proceeds to attept the update again. this time the dreaimg.nbh fails. i'm not freaking out. im good. because i know im almost there. feedback appreciated. thanks in advance.
y'know i never thought about this..but if i reverted a dev phone to factory settings...did i relock everything? and for the record, i only have a mac. if that matters at all.
Future reference ^-^
In case you encounter this problem in the future, cause it can happen with flashing new roms if you skip a step:
You're only bricked if you are stuck at the G1 boot screen but can't get into recovery or fastboot, adb or anything. In cases where you can still get to other phone options to start over, rest assured your phone does still work, just need to step back and figure it out, which you did in this case with a little help ^-^ First few times doing anything to my phone, I went into panic mode a couple of times thinking I bricked until I read around and found out otherwise.
Just in case you didn't know these things, if you did, well, hope it was a nice read? ^-^
doctorfugazi said:
ok...so i went back to the original method for obtaining root. i was so frustrated last nite that i ended up trying to combine 2 slightly diff methods. at this point i call them the telnetd method and root.apk method. correct me if im wrong but niether one mentions the other. so i make it to the bootloader running the root.apk it runs thru the list and the fails at radio_v2. now im on the white screen wuth the skateboarders, the radio #says 1.22.12.29. so i run it again i
now im on the rgb screen at proceeds to attept the update again. this time the dreaimg.nbh fails. i'm not freaking out. im good. because i know im almost there. feedback appreciated. thanks in advance.
y'know i never thought about this..but if i reverted a dev phone to factory settings...did i relock everything? and for the record, i only have a mac. if that matters at all.
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Well... if you actually purchased a dev phone it should not be sim locked.
Technically... after the rooting process, we all have dev phones with the exception of the sim lock.
So... what SPL are you using?
What ROM are you trying to install? Some roms you should consider partitioning your sdcard.
What radio do you have?
First thing is first.
Get the 1.4 recovery if you haven't done so already. 1.4 Recovery
Because this allows you to select any .zip file without having to rename it to update.zip. This saves on confusion so you don't try flashing a spl (like danger spl )before a radio (could brick your phone).
Second
You need the 1.5 radio to use cupcake. 2.22.19.26I
Third
Consider an spl. You have 4 choices. HARDSPL (Recommended), Eng SPL (what the dev phone defaults with.. skateboarding androids), the standard spl (nondev) and Danger SPL (risk bricking but worth it because you have more memory for your ROMs and can try HERO builds).
Fouth
Find your rom. NOTE: Read each post carefully! If it says you need a specific spl then get it! Otherwise it won't work. Some require the Danger SPL. If you chose a JF rom then you should be alright and don't even need to partition your card and it will work just like the OTA release. Some (such as Cyanogens 3.9.7) are experiemental and are not recommended for noobs.
Fifth (and probably the most important)
ALWAYS BACKUP WITH NANDROID!!!
In the event that you think that you've bricked your phone. I would say that there is a 90% chance that you didn't. As long as you have a nandroid backup and can get to the bootloader then you still have a phone. Just make sure the fastboot.exe file is in your sytem32 directory of your computer. Open CMD and cd to your fastboot backups saved on your computer. Simply
fastboot flash boot boot.img <enter>,
fastboot flash system system.img <enter>,
fastboot flash userdata data.img <enter>
fastboot reboot <enter>
and you should be back to where you were immediately after the point you backed up. Think of it as a system restore for Windows. It couldn't hurt to have a few backups stored.
If you have any questions or problems include information for us to read in a single post and edit as necessary.
Example:
AT&T
Cyanogen 3.9.7 Rom
Recovery 1.4
HARD SPL
Radio 2.22.19.26l
8GB class 4 sd card (7gb fat32/900mb ext3/100mb swap)
Theme version if any.
That way we know what we are working with.
Happy flashing.
rest assured i was in panic mode yesterday. but honestly the only thing i could really do was just step back for a while, meaning get some rest tackle it with a clean head. its frustrating for sure. this one guy tho who posted in the brick think tank thread...just cuz he couldnt figure things out in an hour he got pissed and started screaming waste of time this that and the other. total BI$CH! I was like whoa. I was at that point too. but Im not tryna be that guy.
Now, if could just figure out if i have to start from scratch, i just might be able to get my phone working again in time fro me to go to work tmrw morning.
So... what SPL are you using?
the hard SPL found here
What ROM are you trying to install?
Well i was trying to follow suggestion on something simple, like one of the early jesusfreke's. if i can step it up sure why not. but i'll pass on the partitioned sdcard setup for now.
actually I'll run with JesusFreke JFv1.51 US CRB43
What radio do you have?
radio number listed in my previous post.
Hey thanks by the way for taking the time out of your day to respond to this. i know u guys get your fair share of spazmiesters, so i appreciate it totally.
after doing research it seems that all the current roms require partitioning. or is that optional just for running apps to sd?
partitioning is optional of apps2sd for preformance. some like myself have three partitions, the third being for a linux swap
Ok ive final decided on the dudes cupcake 101. the ? i have now is do i start from scratch. im kind of in limbo as i'm stuck on the bootloader. if remember correctly i got half way thru the root process and it went down hill from there.
TMobile
RC29 / previously Dev 1
Recovery 1.4
HARD SPL
Radio currently 1.22.12.29 / trying to get to 2.22.19.26l
4gb card
(hope i did that right)
doctorfugazi said:
Ok ive final decided on the dudes cupcake 101. the ? i have now is do i start from scratch. im kind of in limbo as i'm stuck on the bootloader. if remember correctly i got half way thru the root process and it went down hill from there.
TMobile
RC29 / previously Dev 1
Recovery 1.4
HARD SPL
Radio currently 1.22.12.29 / trying to get to 2.22.19.26l
4gb card
(hope i did that right)
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Okay... you have the recommended recovery and spl.
So all you need to do is get your rom and radio and store the zip files to the root of your sdcard. You don't need to rename them.
Just boot in recovery (power+home) and scroll down to:
[Alt+A] apply any zip from sd
And then you should see the zip files.
Upgrade your radio first.
Then your rom.
Another note... make sure you have a data plan once you've installed your rom. Depending on your rom version, you may not be able to sign in without one. If you can't sign in, you can't use your phone which is why most would recommend a custom rom or an adp rom.
Now... if I'm not mistaken... you do NOT have to partition your sdcard to install a rom (unless it's a HERO rom).
You may want to consider doing so however.
The advantages are that you can have virtually unlimited storage for apps and it's much easier to restore them after a wipe because they are still on your sdcard. Some apps will recognize the partitioned sdcard and automatically do all the apps2sd work for you by default. It is also recommended that you use at least a 2gb class4 card at MINIMUM. Any slower then a class 4 may result in system crashes and errors. Any less then a 2gb card is almost not worth all the effort since you'll likely be using at least a quarter of it for the apps2sd. I would suggest buying at least a 8gb class 6 card for less then $50 online. It's both fast and plenty of storage. With apps to sd, if you do need to wipe you still have all of your apps installed. A great advantage of having apps2sd.
Also... try different roms! There are DOZENS out there! Some have the htc music installed, some have myfaves, some have special cameras, etc. Don't be afraid to experiment. As long as you have a backup and can get to the bootloader (skateboarding androids) and a pc, you can't go wrong! If fact... with the 1.4 recovery you can store several different roms on your sdcard, backup your current rom, wipe, flash a new rom to try it, wipe, flash a different rom to try that one, etc. If you decide that you didn't like any of those... just restore back to your previous backup. Simple as that. No pc needed. However having a pc is handy to get logcat information if it's not booting for some reason.
Speaking of roms not booting... while your experimenting with various roms... you MUST have patience. Sometimes (based on my personal experience with about 10+ different roms) they can take up to 15 minutes to boot up. You can literally be staring at the ANDROID or HTC logo this entire time. Unless you are using ddms.bat or adb shell logcat, you will be clueless of whats going on. DO NOT do anything unless you get the infamous "boot loop". This will be obvious. It will stick at the ANDROID or HTC screen for a while and then blink and go back to the logo. If you see it blink and go back to the logo then try pressing power + talk + menu to restart it and then immediately press the home button to bo back to recovery. Wipe... try again. This time it should work. If it doesn't then restore your backup while you research on that partitcular rom. You may have skipped a step or not have the proper requirements (partitioned card, spl, etc).
With all of that said... good luck and you'll be posting help to other users like yourself before you know it.
Hey Doc, if I'm not mistaken (other guys correct me if I'm wrong), if all, and I mean ALL you have is a boot loader (AKA SPL. ie// skating androids or colored bars) you need to reflash dreaimg.nbh to get a system back.
This ALSO flashes your SPL and RADIO back to default so reflash your radio and SPL afterward. (IN THAT ORDER I HOPE)
Binary100100 is a gentleman and a scholar
nicely written response binary.
I can't stress enough how helpful it is to have the sdk working on a computer when flashing new roms. Get ADB working, it'll save you a ton of headaches.
innerspace said:
nicely written response binary.
I can't stress enough how helpful it is to have the sdk working on a computer when flashing new roms. Get ADB working, it'll save you a ton of headaches.
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Thank you! I do what I can.
hi
i'm a complete novice. i got a local shop to root my t mobile g1, which they have done. The reason i wanted this is so that i could wifi tether it. however they were unable to get this next step to work. i have tried it at home through watching you tube and looking at sites like this - but no luck.
I'm seriously thinking of going back to where i was ie put it back to 1.6 and forget the tethering part. can i do this on a rooted phone, i wish i never rooted it. it cant even find linda file manager in the market anymore.
please help
i am on firmware version 1.0. any help would be appreciated. i guess i shouldn't have got involved in stuff i didn't understand!!!
singingauditor said:
hi
i'm a complete novice. i got a local shop to root my t mobile g1, which they have done. The reason i wanted this is so that i could wifi tether it. however they were unable to get this next step to work. i have tried it at home through watching you tube and looking at sites like this - but no luck.
I'm seriously thinking of going back to where i was ie put it back to 1.6 and forget the tethering part. can i do this on a rooted phone, i wish i never rooted it. it cant even find linda file manager in the market anymore.
please help
i am on firmware version 1.0. any help would be appreciated. i guess i shouldn't have got involved in stuff i didn't understand!!!
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First you should always do your own work so you understand whats going on. if your still on 1.0 you need to update to a newer firmware (at least 1.5 or 1.6 or even jump up to 2.1). Thats prolly why your not seeing certain things in the market and why wifi tether isnt' working. That shop sounds like they don't know what they are doing.
i know. leave things if you dont understand them. lesson learnt. how do i get back back or should i get an expert to get me back to 1.6?
singingauditor said:
i know. leave things if you dont understand them. lesson learnt. how do i get back back or should i get an expert to get me back to 1.6?
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Well techincally the "hard part" is done. All you need to do is find a rom that you want. Cyanogen has a stable 1.6 build that you can run. Just put the .zip on the sd card and flash and everything will start working. Let me know if you need any details on how to do anything.
hi
Cyanogen has a stable 1.6 build that you can run. Just put the .zip on the sd card and flash
thanks for the advice. sorry to be dum. So a ROM on a G1 is like an operating system? So if i put on Cyanogen it will allow me to upgrade to 1.6. When you say put the .zip on the sd card you mean there will be a file called cyananogen.zip that i will have downloaded. Put it onto the SD card, and by flash you mean run the file?
sorry but all this terminology is new to me. ROM in my day was read only memory.
grateful for any simple instructions. thanks in advance
singingauditor said:
hi
Cyanogen has a stable 1.6 build that you can run. Just put the .zip on the sd card and flash
thanks for the advice. sorry to be dum. So a ROM on a G1 is like an operating system? So if i put on Cyanogen it will allow me to upgrade to 1.6. When you say put the .zip on the sd card you mean there will be a file called cyananogen.zip that i will have downloaded. Put it onto the SD card, and by flash you mean run the file?
sorry but all this terminology is new to me. ROM in my day was read only memory.
grateful for any simple instructions. thanks in advance
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First install this recovery (all the instructions are included)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
Then here is the thread for cyanogen's stable build with installation instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610
And if you want to jump to a 2.1 firmware here's his that runs great
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....c-would-you-like-a-pony-v507-test5-05132010/?
But basically you'll download his file which will be a zip file (don't matter what its called) and put it on the root of the sd card (in no folders), turn the phone off. Start the phone in bootloader mode (home and power button, hold the 2 buttons in until you get to your recovery screen and then just flash your zip file.
And I'm like you I don't like calling them rom's either, I'm not real old but older than most on here. But everyone calls them rom's. I'd rather just call them builds. Let me know if you understand everything.
I was going to flash a file from my sd card and accidentally flashed the Danger SPL again. Is this ok or will it cause problems? It seems to have booted up fine but I'm just curious as to how this will play out later. Any comments are greatly appreciated.
Just means you reflashed the same data that was already there. Since you were already running it you already had the right radio and recovery installed so no harm done.
If you are not a brick now you are safe.. however I recommend moving the danger spl zip file off the root of the SD card. Update.zip files containing spls or radios are generally not something you want to inadvertently flash.
Alright that's what I was thinking too but thanks for reassuring me. And yes, those are now safely tucked away elsewhere. Thank you for the respsonse.
I just bought an old G1 and am wanting to play a little and see if i can get the thing running a little better as it really is a cool phone. I am looking at of course trying to get Cyan6 on it and am seeing it needs DangerSPL for repartitioning the SD card. Now i assume a Class 6 (or very least class4) card would be needed for this. Also i see the on teh Cyan Wiki site it says to download the new radio first, 2.22.23.02. When i look under "About Phone", is see my radio is 62.50SC.20.17H_2.22.23.02. I imagine they are the same thing but i just want to make sure. Plus, if they ARE the same i imagine i don't need to download the other radio before i get started. One other question, does teh Danger SPL repartion for you or do you have to do it manually after you flash it? Thanks in advance for any help!
shuka325 said:
I just bought an old G1 and am wanting to play a little and see if i can get the thing running a little better as it really is a cool phone. I am looking at of course trying to get Cyan6 on it and am seeing it needs DangerSPL for repartitioning the SD card. Now i assume a Class 6 (or very least class4) card would be needed for this. Also i see the on teh Cyan Wiki site it says to download the new radio first, 2.22.23.02. When i look under "About Phone", is see my radio is 62.50SC.20.17H_2.22.23.02. I imagine they are the same thing but i just want to make sure. Plus, if they ARE the same i imagine i don't need to download the other radio before i get started. One other question, does teh Danger SPL repartion for you or do you have to do it manually after you flash it? Thanks in advance for any help!
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The REASON some people use the deathspl is BECAUSE it repartitions.
BUT THERE ARE MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER WAYS to do this!
DO NOT use deathSPL!
Use this instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
ADVANTAGE: You get an extra 15 MB of usable internal storage! On a DREAM, that's a lot!
Thanks!!! I WOULD like to flash something that is not real likely to brick the phone.
Okay, there was A LOT of info in that thread... I am sorry to ask but could you possibly break that down into a little more simple terms?? Like, do i just flash the two downloads and they do the work?
Also, i read about "faking", would i have to fake to just download CM6?
Thanks again for the help and info!
shuka325 said:
Thanks!!! I WOULD like to flash something that is not real likely to brick the phone.
Okay, there was A LOT of info in that thread... I am sorry to ask but could you possibly break that down into a little more simple terms?? Like, do i just flash the two downloads and they do the work?
Also, i read about "faking", would i have to fake to just download CM6?
Thanks again for the help and info!
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This is the gist of it:
The kernel sets the partition layout, so if you want a different partition layout, you just need to tell the kernel the new layout you want to use.
The patches modify the boot partitions (boot and recovery) to contain a new kernel commandline with the new partition layouts.
The install procedure goes like this:
You have some modified recovery installed, so you install the recovery patcher. It is now permanently installed until you install a non-patched recovery image.
Then you reboot in order to load the new partition table.
Then you install your ROM -- recovery is aware of the new partition table.
When this new ROM installs, IT IS NOT aware of the new partition table -- so you need to install the boot partition patch. This always has to be done after flashing the boot partition, but if you DON'T flash the boot partition, you don't need to worry about it -- its done.
Real easy.
As for the "fake-SPL" thing... that is because cyanogen has committed an atrocity in his ROMS -- by detecting the SPL you have installed and only allowing install to certain ones. The "fake-SPL" just adds another parameter to the kernel commandline that tells cyanogen that a different SPL is installed than what you actually have.
REGARDING YOUR SPL SELECTION:
The best bet is to install 1.33.2003 (very important -- ends in a THREE).
This is the STRONGEST ENGINEERING SPL that there is, and it is fully 100% compatible with stock 0.95 SPLs and both 1.x and 2.x radios.
And yes, you already have the right radio installed, so no need to worry about that.
Thanks for the reply, this is extremely helpful!! I will try it this evening!