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So my Vario III finally arrived today and I've had chance to give it a nice charge and get it setup how I like. Hence, I thought I'd drop a few impressions for those of you waiting for yours to arrive...
The look: It doesn't have the black frontage of the HTC model, but it does have a very nice brushed metal thing going on. The T-Mobile branding is kept low-key with their logo and a simple "MDA" at the bottom of the screen. The Internet button has the Web n' Walk logo. There is nothing at all on the back of the device. I'll try and get a picture of it for you, but I think the only cameras around here are on phones, so it won't be great.
The software: I panicked a bit when I'd done the initial screen calibration and the T-Mobile customisation kicked in... I let it do its thing though, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There's no obvious branding shown anywhere in any of the programs, apart from the Web n' Walk icon and, of course, the homepage of PIE defaults the T-Mobile portal.
The Touch style front end is in full effect works as you'd expect.
There's an installation of F-Secure Anti Virus on here. I'm not sure if it comes with the HTC version, but it doesn't appear to be licensed at all. As soon as the trial runs out I'll be removing it.
One thing that I'd suggest changing immediately is the awful T-Mobile ring tones that are set for the phone ringing, along with a bunch of message alerts and reminders. Oh how I hate those tunes!
Bundled software: The CD is pretty minimalistic but does feature a GPRS monitor and Sprite Backup. There's no Outlook and no TomTom Taster Edition.
That's all I can think of worth telling you for now. If there's anything you want to know, I'll try my best to find out for you.
Does it have the HTC Today plugin on the today screen?
The large digital clock and weather information plus the notifications and tabs for launcher and photo contacts?
I ordered my Vario III Today as a free upgrade!! It arrives tomorrow
Sounds like that's the Touch style front end I mentioned.
It has everything you listed. I must say I'm pleased with how well the weather bit works. Added to that the speed of establishing a data connection and then downloading stuff is far, far quicker than my old MDA Pro (Universal).
I'm glad they got the right device out to you this time.
I managed to get mine ordered at 08:30 this morning and mine should be here for lunchtime tomorrow.
Bummer about the lack of TomTom taster or Outlook. I imagine Tmob have still got an arrangement with CoPilot for SatNav bundles. I'll have to look for a cheap Exchange provider as some of them are giving away copies of Outlook 2007.
How fast is your data speed? and I'll keep my fingers crossed that the Tmob ROMs don't exhibit the SOD that some have experienced.
wizzzard said:
I'll have to look for a cheap Exchange provider as some of them are giving away copies of Outlook 2007.
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For anybody who doesn't have a free exchange mailaddress to use with the push-mail functionality on WM5 and WM6:
mail2web is still (I think) giving away free exchange mailadresses...
Just go to mail2web.com and sign up!
wizzzard said:
I'm glad they got the right device out to you this time.
I managed to get mine ordered at 08:30 this morning and mine should be here for lunchtime tomorrow.
Bummer about the lack of TomTom taster or Outlook. I imagine Tmob have still got an arrangement with CoPilot for SatNav bundles. I'll have to look for a cheap Exchange provider as some of them are giving away copies of Outlook 2007.
How fast is your data speed? and I'll keep my fingers crossed that the Tmob ROMs don't exhibit the SOD that some have experienced.
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That would make sense as to why TomTom isn't included. I never thought of that. Luckily I have a copy of TomTom 6 that I can use anyway.
Data speeds have been great. Connecting to the UMTS network here is super fast and download speeds have far exceeded what I got from my Universal, although this is downloading virus definitions and weather reports. I haven't tried general Internet browsing just yet.
I can't comment on HSDPA speeds as it's not available here.
rvdgeer said:
For anybody who doesn't have a free exchange mailaddress to use with the push-mail functionality on WM5 and WM6:
mail2web is still (I think) giving away free exchange mailadresses...
Just go to mail2web.com and sign up!
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Free stuff always makes me a bit wary. What's in it for them? Do they send you spam, or attach ads to your mail? Is it possible to tie it in with my existing email service (which I control)?
I suppose I could go to the website and find out myself...
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Free stuff always makes me a bit wary. What's in it for them? Do they send you spam, or attach ads to your mail? Is it possible to tie it in with my existing email service (which I control)?
I suppose I could go to the website and find out myself...
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I use it for over a year now and never got any spam form mail2web or nasty pop-ups / ads...
They give it away as a free service for personal use and you only have to pay when you want it for professional use...
I never found any strings attached and I can say I've used it quite extensively
I really wish I knew when (or approximately when) T-mobile US plans to release their variant. This way, I can decide to wait or get the unlocked version (and possibly have to switch service providers due to 3g bands)
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I use it for over a year now and never got any spam form mail2web or nasty pop-ups / ads...
They give it away as a free service for personal use and you only have to pay when you want it for professional use...
I never found any strings attached and I can say I've used it quite extensively
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I signed up before you even replied, figuring it must be worth a shot. Signup was painless, then I just had to tell my mail server to forward incoming mail to my mail2web account.
Setup the account on my phone, gave it a quick test and it works a treat! Thanks a lot for the recommend.
Can you tell us whether they have blocked MSN messenger?
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Can you tell us whether they have blocked MSN messenger?
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Funny you should say that; the Live applications are somewhat absent. Is there a messaging program I can download somewhere? I always used to use Agile Messenger on this plan until it stopped being free and de-activated itself.
just install the windows live messenger cabs flying arounds in these forums
Hmm. I installed Fring and it didn't seem to be able to connect. I'll try again later though.
I'm a bit hesitant to install the Live stuff thanks to its importing all of my messenger contacts into the phone contacts. Something I really want to keep separate!
I'll keep fiddling with 3rd party programs and keep you posted.
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Can you tell us whether they have blocked MSN messenger?
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Well I can say they haven't blocked it for the Touch as I gave a college the cab of Windows Live
I use Palringo on my Kaiser on T-Mobile (But my handset is unbranded) and it works.
From what I can tell, palringo seems best. Supports MSN / Yahoo / more... and has PTT Plus it is free...
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Hmm. I installed Fring and it didn't seem to be able to connect. I'll try again later though.
I'm a bit hesitant to install the Live stuff thanks to its importing all of my messenger contacts into the phone contacts. Something I really want to keep separate!
I'll keep fiddling with 3rd party programs and keep you posted.
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This version of WLM separates contacts.
TaurusBullba said:
This version of WLM separates contacts.
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Thanks mate ill install this tomorrow when my baby arrives
TaurusBullba said:
This version of WLM separates contacts.
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So this is a 'hacked' version of WLM? Or has M$ finally gotten sensible and fixed their horrible mistake...?
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There's no Outlook
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This is pretty frigging ridiculous. From what I can see, syncronising contacts and calendar relies on having Outlook. How am I supposed to sync if I don't have it?
Got mine delivered this morning.
I havnt got the GPS to work so far (applications connect fine just the skies too cloudy to pick up any satellites).
Coming from the o2 Exec im finding the keyboard a bit small, and some of the keys having been moved around but nothing a weeks of use won't fix. Though using the keyboard while plugged into USB isn't all that comfortable.
The tmobile branding isn't as bad as i expected, though i would have preferred the black finish HTC look.
I've had no problems with connectivity. HSDPA and 3G seem to flip back and forth every now and then.
is it possible?
At work one of my coworkers told me someone got it to work on their tilt and wanted to know if I know how to do it. I googled but didn't find anything.
it states in the article that you can read message sent to you, but can't send them. doesn't make sense.
http://crackberry.com/blackberry-101-lecture-8-basics-how-use-blackberry-messenger
It's my understanding that BB IM uses the BB pin. Pin messaging is not fully implemented in BBC. Implementation also varies by BBC device. Hopefully they will add more functionality in yet-to-come versions.
YES
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is it possible?
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It is.
See, "How To Enable BB CONNECT TO WM6.1 Based ROM credit to elec.two" or "...6.0..." on the following thread:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DuttySeriesKaiser
This thread should help with quite a bit on your Tilt questions.
Thanks alot I will try this out with my friends phone. Appreciate it. He told me he was able to read the pin messages but not send out. Thanks alot though I'll keep this post updated onhow it goes.
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It is.
See, "How To Enable BB CONNECT TO WM6.1 Based ROM credit to elec.two" or "...6.0..." on the following thread:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DuttySeriesKaiser
This thread should help with quite a bit on your Tilt questions.
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Just wanted to add here so that when/if others come across this like I did... The above does *NOT* help you with Blackberry messenger as the OP asked... It *DOES* however help you get bbconnect running on a cooked rom.
There is no Blackberry Messenger available for PPC yet, though RIM is supposedly developing the "Blackberry Application Suite"... Though there's be no news on it since the initial press release so don't hold your breath!
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Thanks alot I will try this out with my friends phone. Appreciate it. He told me he was able to read the pin messages but not send out. Thanks alot though I'll keep this post updated onhow it goes.
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Is your friend's phone on a BES? Or just bbconnect? If he is on the enterprise server then security settings might be an issue. I had the same issue when trying to do a wireless sync with MS Exchange. Read the article below regarding the "protected groups" in windows server 2003. He can not be a part of any of the groups listed towards the bottom of the article. On top of that he would need to add the BESADMIN user rights for "send as" and "receive as" rights to his name in active directory. Do some more research on connecting a bb 8830 to BES with Exchange and you will understand.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907434
i wish gmail would come out with a googletalk and gmail push for wm6 like they did for blackberry...the blackberry edition of the google software is awesome.. my sister has black berry and i signed her on gchat and it hasn't signed off in 20 days
I'll be the first to admit I don't know squat about blackberry, but I do have in my hands a CD labelled 'HTC TyTN II Blackberry Connect / Blackberry Connect Desktop setup' if the files from that would be any use?
Thanks but no. Blackberry connect software is readily available from here as well as sems site.
What Sabian is trying to tell everyone is that there is no Blackberry Messenger in Blackberry Connect.
I'm not surprised pin messaging is not part of bbconnect since it is a compelling application for blackberry devices. Rim's stock price is doing well and they are selling tons of devices now. They have no incentive to cut into this by adding messenger functionality to blackberry connect or releasing their "virtual blackberry" vaporware.
However, there are two things that may make them reconsider and soon.
First, another massive network failure like the one last year will have a lot of folk wondering why they are paying premium prices for a service that can't guarantee 100% uptime and are less than open about admitting fault.
Second, is the 800lb gorilla that's coming this summer, the 3g iphone with Exchange sync capability. No use arguing pluses or minuses about it, a lot of execs and management will want to be able get their email on their new toy.
Rim needs to get their act in gear. They think they can answer this by coming out with their own iphone-like device. The real answer is full blackberry functionality in blackberry connect for pda phones including the iphone.
Don't know, I have seen the newly released specs on Iphone 2 and I am less than impressed...
No front video camera to any market...
Only 2Mpix rear camera still
No Copy & Paste
No memory upgrades possible still
No user changeable battery still
plastic case throughout instead of the steel back (though I was always a little concerned about using a steel back on a phone....)
Price has dropped, but it's not something I would go for in a phone. If they are targetting business users, something as fundamental as copy / paste would pretty much be an essential. It's like marketing a computer for the 21st century without a right click option... oh, wait...
(and yes, I know on the newer mighty mouse you do have right click capability, which is turned off by default)
Yeah if Pin to Pin worked perfectly on AT&T Tilt. I would add that data plan to my line. It's so much simpler like that and besides all my friends have blackberry. It would be cool to message them for free.
Iphone for Business!! Ha!! Ha!! Ha!!
Imagine typing up an email that has to go out on a emergency on the iPhone. The typos would be insane. You have to touch the screen all the time. It isn't practical. I still prefer the Qwerty Keyboard.
My next phone will either be the Touch Pro or the Xperia. Hopefully this site will add this phone even though it isn't made by HTC. It would suck to find another community like this.
BB connect feature for Non Blackberry Devices is 45.00 a month.
I pay 50 dollars a month for unlimited messaging and data on top of my 70 dollar voice plan. My monthly bill is 140.00-160.00. I only have one line. They should seriously drop the price down on these things. Sprint already let it be known that "Data, GPS, Messaging, Airtime doesn't cost a thing. That's why they have the 100 dollar everything plan. I would switch but then I remembered their service sucks.
I know it's off-topic but yeah.. had to vent.
Yes it is available. I use on mine. Just download BB client software from ATT website install it then call ATT and subscribe to BB plan. After call your company IT and let them set it up.
Can you explain better? I didn't find any BB client software on the ATT website. Please share the wealth. I need to get BB messenger by saturday because I am going to Beijing for the olympics and I don't want to pay 99 cent each text.
For the last time... THERE IS NO BLACKBERRY MESSENGER IN BBCONNECT.
It is available BB Client for Windows Mobile !!!
I couldn't attach this cab file for some reason but you can download "BBConnect_WM6_Professional_BB_41.0.0.84.cab" from here: http://rusyn.4shared.com
so did anyone figure out how to use blackberry messenger on the htc tilt?
hi guys, ive just moved house and i cant find the software discs for my xda!!! does anybody know where i can obtain a set of them?
thanks for your help
tried o2 and ebay and searched the web, any help would be great?
What software discs are you actually looking for? Can't say as i have ever needed anything off the discs that came with my Alpine or Himalaya.
what do you need off the disks? if its activsync just download it from microsoft
OK, FWIW i have found the two CDs that came with my Alpine and will upload them somewhere when i can get ISOs created
cheers guys
thanks for the replys guys, im sorry i took so long to reply but ive been away with the family for a few days...all i was after on the discs was the original software files that came packaged, my discs have grown legs in the move!
just wanting to keep things organised, active sync has been downloaded too!
has anybody tried the bluetooth gps from holox on ebay? 54 channel job?
thanks again for your help and time guys xxx
Having trouble uploading one of the ISOs at the moment, it is at home and i am not and the upload last night died half way through. It is 260Mb and contains Outlook and Active Sync, the other is a lot smaller and contains whatever apps O2 put on it, cant remember and dont have the CD to hand to check. Download it from Adrive
thanks mate will get the download soon as i get home from work tonight, your a star thank you xxx
Here's the other one also on ADrive
Application CD contains:
Fonix_VoiceDial
Zip
TrueFax
SPB GPRS Monitor
This CD conatins
Outlook 2002
ActiveSync 3.7
As i said i haven't used any of the above.
cheers thats great, anytime i can help just drop me a line xxx
any idea where i can find the mms settings for my xda2i on t mobile? im just off to search the forums too xx
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cheers thats great, anytime i can help just drop me a line xxx
any idea where i can find the mms settings for my xda2i on t mobile? im just off to search the forums too xx
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That i can't hep with, sorry, never been a big MMS user. I think the T-Mobile site will send you the settings.
otherwise doing a search in networking forum for "tmobile AND mms" would likely give a result
cheers guys i gave t-mob a call last night and the 5 year old on the other end of the line was no help at all, not a shock but still a fair price for no service eh? right time to dive deep into the forums,
your help has been great, the wife now wants me to get her an xda !!!
*sigh*
I just got the phone yesterday, and I've been messing with it all night. Great device and best I've owned yet, but unfortunately I'm having issues trying to setup Hotmail as my e-mail account. I did some research and some said to sign into Messenger and sync e-mail. But where is Messenger? Is it the messaging application that can sign you into Aim/Msn/Yahoo or an actual Live Messenger program on the device that eludes me?
The other thing is the Youtube Application. Yes I've found it but I'm unable to make it shortcut under programs or in start menu. I did download Total Commander but I'm new to this whole importing .cab thing. Is there anywhere I can find a guide to doing this without bricking my phone?
Any help would be mucho appreciated!
There is another thread on it somewhere. You need to highlight the cab and copy it then go to the windows, start menu, programs directory (I believe thats it) and copy a shortcut there.
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I just got the phone yesterday, and I've been messing with it all night. Great device and best I've owned yet, but unfortunately I'm having issues trying to setup Hotmail as my e-mail account. I did some research and some said to sign into Messenger and sync e-mail. But where is Messenger? Is it the messaging application that can sign you into Aim/Msn/Yahoo or an actual Live Messenger program on the device that eludes me?
The other thing is the Youtube Application. Yes I've found it but I'm unable to make it shortcut under programs or in start menu. I did download Total Commander but I'm new to this whole importing .cab thing. Is there anywhere I can find a guide to doing this without bricking my phone?
Any help would be mucho appreciated!
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When I created my shortcut to the YouTube app, the larger file did nothing. There's a 700kb and 50kb (my estimates could be completely off btw) and only the smaller file that I created a shortcut to launched the app.
Hmm ok. What about the hotmail issue though? Is it even possible or *must* I use gmail?
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Hmm ok. What about the hotmail issue though? Is it even possible or *must* I use gmail?
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not at all, just open run windows live (I believe under games and apps) login, and then select hotmail.
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not at all, just open run windows live (I believe under games and apps) login, and then select hotmail.
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hmm for the life of me I can't find it, i looked in that area but its not there :|
btw, I have $50 riding that Randy Couture takes out Lesnar this saturday
wich carrier are you using?
I'm from holland and my TP ( Vario IV ) came with the stock T-mobile rom. If you are using T-mobile, chances are they left out MSN.
Suggestion : Flash your TP to a different rom ( I use ROMeOS 1.40.1, just like the rest of the world should , but no pressure )
Installing Live should'nt be a problem.
About the youtube thing : what hah2110 said is true.
hope this helps.
I'm using AT&T using the Fuze. I do agree with another comment I read concerning the difficult in using hotmail on a winmo device. It's kinda ironic. :\
Will only specific apps run on android? Its just my mate wants to get Freecaddie on his Hero, and I have it on my Touch HD. I have checked on the website but not sure whether to try and put the winmo cab on and run that or will it mess the phone up... any help greatly appreciated..
I'm not a programmer so I could be completely wrong, but I don't think that will work. That's like trying to run a Windows program on a Linux machine - unless the developers specifically made a Linux version it just won't work. Probably the best thing for your friend to do is look around on the market for that application or a similar one.
(And before a Linux defender comes to correct me - yes, I know you can get windows emulators that run in Linux, but I'm not aware of those existing for phones.)
Ia m may get flamed here, but i am sure , a windows moblie app will not run on a linux based os, unless some one has made W.I.N.E (linux geeks like myself will understand) for andriod then No sorry !!
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That's like trying to run a Windows program on a Linux machine
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Not just like, that's exactly the case here
@Milesjasjar
It won't work. As another poster mentioned though, search the market. I've found apps to do most things (apart from a really good calendar app!!!)
P.S. Good luck for Saturday, hope the Saints do it. It's about time.
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I've found apps to do most things (apart from a really good calendar app!!!)
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If what you don't like with the HTC calendar is that it displays all events on the monthly view in exactly the same way, you can try the Pure Calendar widgets (dev's website here). The 'Grid' one displays a coloured bar at the top of each day in a monthly view, its length representing how long the appointment is and the colour which calendar it's part of. It loads data from Outlook and Google calendars without trouble. The dev also makes an agenda style widget, but I haven't used it. Unfortunately you have to pay about £1 for either.
Hi,
Thanks I'm already using Pure Calendar and have the Grid too. I agree it's the best available at the mo but having just moved over from WinMo I'm waiting for someone to release a major app like Pocket Informant. Unfortunately developers seem wary as they are not sure people will be willing to pay £20 for an Android app (although I would be if it's good enough!)
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Cheers for the responses guys.. at least I know what to expect when i get my own hero... I keep looking but still not ready to make the jump, guess I am far to comfortable with the Winmo UI. But the gap is closing on the usability.. as long as i can import everything from outlook, and find a free golf program then i might make the jump sooner..